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post Jul 31 2009, 07:18 AM
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post Jul 31 2009, 07:18 AM
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yeah lets all stay positive and believe in dbsk.. i dun believe they gonna separate themselves.. ^^ fighting!! cassies.. fighting DBSK!!


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:19 AM
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Jaejoong, Junsu and Yoochun did request a disposition (note: not a lawsuit yet) asking SM to release them from their contracts. Yunho and Changmin aren't involved. This isn't just a rumour, it's FACT. What remains a rumour is DBSK breaking up, athough if the three win (which they are very likely to - read below) then it is a possibility. 'DBSK' and 'DBSK Disposition' are hot issues on Korean portal sites right now and articles keep being uploaded, and it looks like SM is removing old posts by the members on their official website.


Jaejoong, Junsu and Yoochun's side of the story (straight from the mouth of the lawyer representing them):
  • The three members and the lawyer have been in contact discussing this issue for over 2 months now.
  • They tried to negotiate a deal with SM Entertainment to resolve this issue in the best way possible but they could not reach an agreement.
  • Therefore, they were forced to request a provisional disposition on the 31st against SM Entertainment to have them released from their contracts.
  • The main reasons for them wanting to be released from their contracts include the fact that their contracts were basically like slave contracts.
  • Their contracts were for 13 years.
  • Their earnings are split 8:2 or 9:1 (with the smaller numbers being the five members and the larger numbers being SM Entertainment. For comparison, JYP Entertainment splits 5:5 with their groups even the new ones.).
  • *Other reasons being mentioned, though not by the lawyer, include the members being overworked and SM Entertainment not being happy with the make up business the three started with their parents.
  • If SM Entertainment does not release them from their contracts, they are prepared to file a lawsuit and go to trial.
  • An official statement regarding this issue will be released by the three members soon.


SM's side of the story (straight from the mouth of their representatives):
  • They admit that there has been some disagreement between them and DBSK recently but they are 'shocked' that DBSK took the issue to court.
  • They are currently having an emergency meeting and will release an official statement soon.


While DBSK probably makes the most money in SM Entertainment, don't think for a second that SM Entertainment is smart enough to keep them. Look at H.O.T. (LSM denied they were breaking up when articles began to appear about them breaking up just like they are now about DBSK; a few days later H.O.T. announced they were breaking up) and Shinhwa (SM only wanted to negotiate new contracts with two of the members; they are amazing for being able to leave SM Entertainment TOGETHER and buy the name Shinhwa from SM Entertainment).

On the other hand, note that the three asked to be released from their current contracts. This doesn't necessarily mean that DBSK are breaking up or that the members are leaving SM Entertainment (they could sign new contracts).

The only thing you can be sure of is the fact that the three members are not happy with their current contracts and would like to be released from them.


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:22 AM
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wow i seriously wake up to the CRAPPIEST NEWS ON THE EARTH.

top searches on naver are tvxq related crap.

agh.

i'm really really depressed right now. if anything happens to them...............I hope SM does something smart by keeping their best group in their company. BLAH! -cries-


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:22 AM
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If ever they will leave SM, I hope, all of them & not just three. I think they can stand on their own feet now. They don't need SM Entertainment anymore. BUT BUT... SM needs them. SM can't let them go. So they WON'T DISBAND..



V @lovedbsk: I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.


EDIT: Why can't everyone leave SM right now? Just a moment ago, I was thinking of Eeteuk's depression and when I logged in here, I found the answer. Everyone from SM (DBSK, SuJu, CSJH, BoA, SHINee & SNSD must leave now). SME is sooo UNFAIR!!


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:23 AM
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erm, ok.
from my point of view, i doubt db will be disbanded. if they really leaving the company, most likely will leave as a group. and actually. i'm waiting for this day to come. i don't really like sm company.. the way they treat the artistes and stuff.. sm only concentrates on making them famous in asia. and i don't like the way the company treats jang ri in and cheonsang. even if favorable agreements are met, their relationship won't be as close as before. changing a company is a sooner or later thing.
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Sanya
post Jul 31 2009, 07:27 AM
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What makes me worry the most is the fact the five of them are not together on this, the boys are divided in two camps and it's scaring me to death to know that. i can't believe this is happeningn yunho looked so happy in his stalker pictures just yesterday, and now this?
and what's gonna happend with avex????
i don"t know what to thinkbut i really feel that this is not just a rumor...


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Shenlu
post Jul 31 2009, 07:30 AM
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^ stellar_remnants Thank you for making such an organised post about the issue, it highlights what is going on.
I knew there was something different about this "rumour", it felt different.
What horrible news sleep.gif; I really am freaking out right now.
I hope everything can be resolved and nothing happens to split the boys up; I'm not sure how I could take that.
UGH even just this news is heartbreaking.

That earnings split is ridiculous. That along justifies their actions, in my opinion,


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:31 AM
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i agree with you Sanya, the fact that they r not standing together on this is scaring me more~ to me, it looks like their contracts r like slave contracts, 8:2, and 9:1, and then dbsk still has to split the 10%-20% among the 5 members, so each get like 2-5% for their hardwork~ and JYP splits it 5:5, cnt believe their is such a BIG difference~

i seriously think that yunho as the leader should support the 3 boys if they were to negotiate with SM


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:33 AM
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wOw, the profit split is so unfair with DBSK getting so little. That is truly unfair and the boys deserve so much more for their hard work, effort and talent. But I don't get why only JaeChunSu are wanting to be released from their contracts....Does HoMin just accept the unfair treatment given by SM ? The only thing making me so so worried rite now is whether DBSK will disband.. I don't care about their entertainment company just that the boys will always be five together.


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:35 AM
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I think that everyone of us are really shocked at what is happening... but we must know be desperate about it..

i think that the boys must have really think about this ( if this is true) and as it it said, it is not a lawsuit yet but a disposition.. However if for 2 month SM hasn't been able to reach an agreement and that they are 'shocked' that this happened ( again is this is true) then I think they must be some kind of ''dummy'' .. I mean who would continue normally with a contract that makes them like a slave and while they work their ass off everyday??? Come on I mean..

But aren't the guys at Japan??? Aren't they preparing for A nation actually???

And if all the above is true, how come the two others accept it??

A bit weird all of that..

Guess that we will all have to wait now wink.gif

EDIT : Weren't they making plans with SM right now??? however this does collides with only YH and CM having solo activities and not yet for the others ( JJ already filmed last year)


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:37 AM
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this has got to be the most "wtf" news/info EVER. dang profit ratio.


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:39 AM
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What I don't get is why Yunho and Changmin aren't wanting to be released from their contracts too? If Junsu, Yoochun and Jaejoong sign new contracts with SM, does that mean Yunho and Changmin will receive less profit than the rest of the boys and will also get treated more harshly?
It doesn't make sense, why 5 of them aren't in it together!


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:40 AM
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my instinct about this problem is really right, there is a problem.

this is the hardest days of Cassiopeians. im rooting for a Korean Comeback but i think it will not be anymore.

all i want to advice is that ready you're hearts if ever. because we don't know what will happen.

SM entertainment is very cunning. based on my observations, they are not as kind as we know.


Lets respect everyone decisions here. pray for them.


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:40 AM
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post Jul 31 2009, 07:40 AM
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I don't know but I feel that korea news tend to exaggerate. I remember reading news that varies from versions to versions.

So, only the official statement from SM or the boys will convince me.

And to think that the group had split views on this, is not convincing. But of course if they find the contract unfair, they should have the right to fight it. And SM, will definitely be the biggest loser of all.


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE (stellar.remnants @ Jul 31 2009, 08:19 AM) *
Jaejoong, Junsu and Yoochun did request a disposition (note: not a lawsuit yet) asking SM to release them from their contracts. Yunho and Changmin aren't involved. This isn't just a rumour, it's FACT. What remains a rumour is DBSK breaking up, athough if the three win (which they are very likely to - read below) then it is a possibility. 'DBSK' and 'DBSK Disposition' are hot issues on Korean portal sites right now and articles keep being uploaded, and it looks like SM is removing old posts by the members on their official website.


Jaejoong, Junsu and Yoochun's side of the story (straight from the mouth of the lawyer representing them):
  • The three members and the lawyer have been in contact discussing this issue for over 2 months now.
  • They tried to negotiate a deal with SM Entertainment to resolve this issue in the best way possible but they could not reach an agreement.
  • Therefore, they were forced to request a provisional disposition on the 31st against SM Entertainment to have them released from their contracts.
  • The main reasons for them wanting to be released from their contracts include the fact that their contracts were basically like slave contracts.
  • Their contracts were for 13 years.
  • Their earnings are split 8:2 or 9:1 (with the smaller numbers being the five members and the larger numbers being SM Entertainment. For comparison, JYP Entertainment splits 5:5 with their groups even the new ones.).
  • *Other reasons being mentioned, though not by the lawyer, include the members being overworked and SM Entertainment not being happy with the make up business the three started with their parents.
  • If SM Entertainment does not release them from their contracts, they are prepared to file a lawsuit and go to trial.
  • An official statement regarding this issue will be released by the three members soon.


SM's side of the story (straight from the mouth of their representatives):
  • They admit that there has been some disagreement between them and DBSK recently but they are 'shocked' that DBSK took the issue to court.
  • They are currently having an emergency meeting and will release an official statement soon.


While DBSK probably makes the most money in SM Entertainment, don't think for a second that SM Entertainment is smart enough to keep them. Look at H.O.T. (LSM denied they were breaking up when articles began to appear about them breaking up just like they are now about DBSK; a few days later H.O.T. announced they were breaking up) and Shinhwa (SM only wanted to negotiate new contracts with two of the members; they are amazing for being able to leave SM Entertainment TOGETHER and buy the name Shinhwa from SM Entertainment).

On the other hand, note that the three asked to be released from their current contracts. This doesn't necessarily mean that DBSK are breaking up or that the members are leaving SM Entertainment (they could sign new contracts).

The only thing you can be sure of is the fact that the three members are not happy with their current contracts and would like to be released from them.


Please DO NOT copy and paste this post to other forums/websites/etc without my permission.



Sorry, but may we post this on <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/omonatheydidnt/">Omona</a>?
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post Jul 31 2009, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE (vee. @ Jul 31 2009, 10:39 PM) *
What I don't get is why Yunho and Changmin aren't wanting to be released from their contracts too? If Junsu, Yoochun and Jaejoong sign new contracts with SM, does that mean Yunho and Changmin will receive less profit than the rest of the boys and will also get treated more harshly?
It doesn't make sense, why 5 of them aren't in it together!


This is just my assumption. I think this time is difficult situation for Yunho and Changmin because currently they will film drama and if they are on this strike with other three... it will make difficult situation that involve many people including production of the drama.


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post Jul 31 2009, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE (stellar.remnants @ Aug 1 2009, 12:49 AM) *
On the other hand, note that the three asked to be released from their current contracts. This doesn't necessarily mean that DBSK are breaking up or that the members are leaving SM Entertainment (they could sign new contracts).

The only thing you can be sure of is the fact that the three members are not happy with their current contracts and would like to be released from them.

You do have a point there. Issuing a lawsuit against their contract might not mean they are disbanding. SM will be thinking of a solution now as he doesn't want to lose his most precious artiste from his company - I don't think he can bear it. I do hope this will be settled, or at least, calm down abit by today. I am worried, but not until I hear from the boys, then I will be truly convinced by it.


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sorry for my english, i'm really anxious now


i'm okay with them leaving SM but together! Not just 3 of them.
also about Yunho stalking pics, he looks happy there. Does it mean he knew nothing about JaeSuChun plans or he thinks there's nothing to be worried about?

And what i'm really curious about: Yunho and Changmin aren't with the others members. Does it mean their contracts are different? Somebody know anything about it?
Arggh~! So many questions! What about AVEX and their japanese activities?

Please stay together!!!
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