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kayem7289
Joyce, yahh...I'm finally here and I read your posts. I finally caught up with all the pages (boy there was a lot) and I'm still debating about whether I should post my two cents. After seeing how some people reacted to your harmless posts, I'm kinda afraid, too lol But whatever, what should I be afraid of? We're all MATURE ladies here and we can all reason without having to get all crazy fangirlish.

EDIT: Okay, I'm putting in my two cents because I feel the need to. To you obssessive JaeHo lovers, I suggest you not read this because you'll probably take it the wrong way and overreact, just like how some of you did to other posts that weren't even scathing, whatsoever...Just a suggestion...

Here's my take on JaeHo. (I AM a JaeHo lover, too, do not call me an anti)

I find it very offensive when fangirls call those who don't love JaeHo as much as other couples "homophobic." It's a rude statement to make when you don't know anything about the other person. Just because someone doesn't wish to see their crush or idol be with a person of the same sex DOES NOT mean they are homophobic! Think about it, I LOVE Song Hye Kyo and Yoon Eun Hye, they're both beautiful girls. What if they all of sudden became best friends and started hanging out with each other excessively, partying, shopping, sleepovers, etc. and people started referring to them as lesbians? How would you feel about that? Just because they like to be around each other doesn't make them lesbians, and I'm sure there's a lot of fans out there who would jump the bandwagon of "SHK+YEH= tears.gif" so does that make them lesbians?
I don't know about you guys, but if I have a crush on this really hot guy, and then there's this other really hot guy I like, I would NOT want them to be together. Simply because I would prefer them with me. It's fine for you to want them to be that way, but just because someone else doesn't doesn't give you the right to label them that way. We all know that JaeHo/YunJae is loved as a yaoi couple, what if I took another couple that was not known to be a yaoi couple (like MinHo) and started calling them "lovers" and such. I'm sure many of you would be like, "Ummm...They're really cute, but I don't like them that way..." Does this give me the right to call you a homophobe?

But back to the point, I think JaeHo would really appreciate the fact that you care so much about their relationship and observe them so much, but I think that some of you are to the point of just being plain ignorant. It's not necessarily that there's more "real" JaeHo moments, but it's the fact that you pay more attention to them more than any other couple, so naturally you'd tell yourself that there was more loving there. The "special moments" and chemistry some of you mention is just as applicable to other couples, but your biasedness alters your thinking. Pay attention to other couples and you'll notice that they have those "special" moments, too. It's perfectly fine being a total yaoi YunJae camper, but you'll have to face the facts that some might disagree with you and IT'S OKAY.

The thing that also irks me is how people always refer to JaeHo as being the "True" couple. WTH is that supposed to mean? You all talk about how there's all these haters out there who don't support JaeHo? But have you realized that you'd probably feel just the same way if someone else were to praise another couple more than JaeHo? How do you think that makes us YooSu, JaeMin, JaeChun, Hosu, etc. lovers feel when we're told that only JaeHo is a real couple?! To say that our couples are "Fanservices" and your's is not, is hypocritical. If you say stuff about your couple being the best, then we should have the right to claim how our couple is the best, too. This doesn't apply necessarily to JaeHo, but to just about everything in general. What YOU like, someone else may NOT like, don't say I'm wrong because I'll just say you're wrong right back.

Not to mention, the amount of JaeHo is excessive and obssessive. Honestly, the amount of fangirling and screaming for JaeHo is almost exaggerated. Seriously, I have seen MANY, MANY, MANY photos of them just simply STANDING next to each other, and people are already screaming, "OMG!! That is sooooo JaeHo love right there!" Like someone mentioned to me, JaeHo was simply wearing glasses this one time and it was deemed to be a "JaeHo moment." Really? Just standing next to each other is considered a "_____ moment" now? Wouldn't that mean that every single DBSK pic out there would have a YooSu, JaeChun, JaeMin, HoMin moment because of the order they stand in? It gets annoying when every single picture we see is labeled a JaeHo picture just because they are next to each other. I'm sure all of you would be annoyed if I cropped all my DBSK group pix into JaeChun only, posted them and then screamed about it, right? It's not even the full picture, they are simply standing next to each other, but yet I claim it to be a JaeChun moment, yeah...pretty annoying. Just stop with the overreacting already, we all notice real JaeHo moments just like any of you can recognize other couple moments, so there's no need to blow it out of proportion, it gets excessive.

Lastly, please do not just call them gay because you want it that way. Sure you say there's a lot of evidence, but so what? This doesn't mean you should go around saying that about them. What if JaeHo read all your posts, think about how they'd feel? Each of us has our own wishful thinking, but it's not polite to apply it to real life. JaeHo likes to hold hands, touch each other's thighs, touching in general...Yeah, and??? That's the same with every other couple, they like to touch each other, PERIOD. Calling them a gay couple just encourages more anti-fans, and I as a JaeHo fan, am not very pleased with that. Do you all not read the nasty comments people leave on JaeHo/YunJae tributes on youtube? They are rude, crude, and completely uncalled for, but some of you enable all the hating and dissing to go on with all the discussions. For now, just keep your opinions to yourself so that newbies and anti's won't be able to say all that they say. Until I see them making out or something that CLEARLY states their sexual orientation, I choose to believe what the mojarity believes in. That they are just young boys who are overly affectionate. I don't care how obssessive and observant you are, you can even be just a JaeHo fan (And not a DBSK fan), have all their videos and pay as much attention as you want, but you DO NOT know them. Stop with the speculations. There was a girl who came here once and talked about Yunho+Stephanie, basically described all the special moments they had like how you guys describe the JaeHo moments, and she was bashed for speculating. Hypocrite much?

Like others said, Koreans in general are more touchy-feely. It's completely normal.

I'm not going to apologize beforehand because I, in no way, see this post as offensive in any way, shape or form. It's just an opinion that I'm sure many people feel, but are just too afraid to write up. If some of you feel offended, feel free to reply back with legitimate reasons. Don't just give me some, "If you don't like JaeHo then just go away!" Because I've already stated that I like JaeHo, not an obssessed fan, but I do find them very appealing. I'm sure that if we were to talk about another couple that we love besides JaeHo, some of you wouldn't even join in because I've rarely seen any of you here.

People have different opinions and likings than you, get over it. Don't attack someone or call her a hater because she doesn't agree with you.

I will; however, apologize for the long post.

...That's all.

...
432521
This is kinda out of the blue, but can someone explain to me wat the Artist Photo of the Month - March 2007: Dong Bang Shin Ki is. Is it just pictures of them during there 2nd concert?
I feel kinda stupid because i already bought it but i am asking this now. I also feel stupid because i accidently bought 2 copies of it so now i am going to have 2 sets.*no clue of wat to do the the extra one* I just found out the it is already sold out so i wanna say sorry for buying one extra because if i didnt then someone could have gotten one instead of now waiting for them to ship in more.


EDIT:
*clap clap for kayem7289* Wow your words are so strong *in a good way* I totally agree with you.
Auralie
QUOTE(sillyHO @ Mar 13 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]5213261[/snapback]
Question: Why does the boys not have girlfriends? I dont think they are that picky..and even if they are, well there are so many girls out there wanting to be their gfs.

I seriously hope the boys arnt in this sorta situation where SM controls everything they do. LSM cant be that badd heh heh......sry for my ranting. [/color] vicx.gif


(0. I'm also picky when it comes to potential boyfriends, duh sleep.gif. )
1. Its hard to keep the relationship alive despite their busy schedules.
2. I could also imagine them getting a little paranoid, cuz there are surely many girls out there who only wnat them for their fame & money
3. Fangirlz would KILL her (remember that one girl who got beaten up because she SUPPOSEDLY kissed Yunho!?)
4. I'm sure some of them also get their "fun" from time to time even if they are not in a committed relationship if you know what I mean sleep.gif
5. YES he can be that bad and I'm sure he IS. (its very common in the entertainment buissnes, i.e. Hello!Project (Tsunku), Johnny's Jimusho (Kitagawa Johnny))
azn_luv5
AHHH!! Thos pictures are so so cute!! I love htem all!! The Choosey Lover ones and the Magazine one!! Thanks for sharing!! And about this whole Jaeho prob. umm although I am not a fan, I don't mind it, I just don't like the fact that some people put them together as couple couples, but if just brotherly love then I am ok with it!!
zhenai
QUOTE(sillyHO @ Mar 13 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]5213261[/snapback]
Question: Why does the boys not have girlfriends? I dont think they are that picky..and even if they are, well there are so many girls out there wanting to be their gfs. One of my older friends ( a musician ) said that the problem with signing contracts is that you pretty much sign your life away to a company for the period of time the contract states. This means that the company can control everything you do, including the songs you sing, the money you make from album sales and even little things like having a girlfriend. See, girlfriends can mean for dbsk that many of their fans wont be happy and they may not concentrate as hard, the company mite not like this. Of course it just mite be that the boys are too busy or simply dont want girlfriends right now..but I was just wondering ><, since a lot of other artists dont have girl/boyfriends.

I seriously hope the boys arnt in this sorta situation where SM controls everything they do. LSM cant be that badd heh heh......sry for my ranting. [/color] vicx.gif


hmmm it could be that they do have gfs and just hide it really well. But with all the stalker fans they have, they'd have to hide it REALLY REALLY well. I honestly don't mind if they get gfs, but we all know that there are a lot of fans who do and their popularity may go down because of that. I think that it might be SM but it may also be that the boys themselves do not want to lose popularity. They're still young so maybe its career first, love later? Because DBSK won't be this popular forever... they could be taking advantage of their fame for now and choosing to not focus on anything else. Girlfriends take time and that's something they don't really have a lot of. Keeping a relationship with them would be really hard. Anyway, I'm sure they have their flings and stuff, which is only healthy for guys their age.


Now about the Jaeho. No one should say "we know" anything because even if we're the most obsessive fan ever, we don't know ANYTHING when it comes to their personal lives other than what they choose to tell us. So it really doesn't matter what everyone believes because no one will know unless we hear it from their mouths (which even if Jaeho was real, they'd probably never say it).

Well one thing's for sure. Jaeho loves each other!! As well as Minsu, Jaechun, Homin, Yunchun, Hosu, Yoosu, Jaemin, Jaesu, Yoomin... hmm did I leave any out? Anyway, whether its in a romatic way or not, these boys all love each other to death... There's no point of trying to figure out what kind of love it is. Any kind of love is beautiful.

edit: I really don't think anyone should try to crush Jaeho believers. I mean I don't really care whether they're real or not but there are fans who do and why not just let them believe what they want? In the end, its just what they believe. They may have evidence but none of it is proof. If they get happy by seeing all these Jaeho moments, then why interfere? Does it really make you feel better to stomp on what someone else believes? Why bother with something you can never prove? What some Jaeho fans call "jaeho moments" may seem ridiculous to you but they may find it really cute or heartwarming. If you have your own favorite couple, then post their moments! No one is stopping anyone. Theres no reason to attack Jaeho fans. It's just that there seems to be more Jaeho fans than other couplings but no ones stopping anyone from liking other couples or calling them the OTP.

Gay or not... I love these boyssssss <3



My questions for them! I was late to school this morning because I had to do it before the deadline lol

1. Is there anything you guys regret about choosing this path (of a celebrity)?

2. If all of you fell into the ocean and no one knew how to swim besides you, who would you save first?

3. Do you guys ever plan to have a concert in the US? (US fans still really want to see you guys!)

4. How would you propose to a girl you wanted to marry?

5. When do you guys think Tohoshinki will end? Do you guys ever plan to retire from the entertainment industry?
yvonne83
QUOTE(kanglui @ Mar 13 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]5210901[/snapback]
regarding the question asking thingy on the yahoo! Live Talk. who else is sending in questions? and what are u guys asking?? i sure hope everyone takes part! this will increase our chances!! and we rarely have chances like that too!! one thing that is making me have a headache is what to ask. i have SO many questions, but dont knw if my question is appropriate.. GAHH!!! im juz downright weird.. *whattoaskwhattoaskwhattoask*

I sent a question but my questions never get picked in online interviews dry.gif I asked what everyone asked already, are you coming to [fill in country]? tongue.gif But more like do they intend to have a world tour? lol (they would never come in Belgium anyway...)

Btw, first time posting in this thread (too afraid to break a rule haha). TVXQ is actually one of the last band I thought I would like! One day, I saw one of the NG video of their Banjun drama on youtube and watched it (just because I like NG's) and I hadn't laughed like that in a long time even though I didn't know them! I really liked the humour in all their Banjun drama and the fact that they easily make fun of themselves. Unexpectedly I love their songs, especially Junsu's singing touches me a lot.

QUOTE(sillyHO)
Question: Why does the boys not have girlfriends? I dont think they are that picky..and even if they are, well there are so many girls out there wanting to be their gfs.

Didn't Micky have a girlfriend when he was already in TVXQ? Or maybe I got it completely wrong again...

edit: I like your questions zhenai smile.gif
ti.pod
my first post heeere
well... hi i guess^^

QUOTE(Auralie @ Mar 13 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]5213393[/snapback]
(0. I'm also picky when it comes to potential boyfriends, duh sleep.gif. )
1. Its hard to keep the relationship alive despite their busy schedules.
2. I could also imagine them getting a little paranoid, cuz there are surely many girls out there who only wnat them for their fame & money
3. Fangirlz would KILL her (remember that one girl who got beaten up because she SUPPOSEDLY kissed Yunho!?)
4. I'm sure some of them also get their "fun" from time to time even if they are not in a committed relationship if you know what I mean sleep.gif
5. YES he can be that bad and I'm sure he IS. (its very common in the entertainment buissnes, i.e. Hello!Project (Tsunku), Johnny's Jimusho (Kitagawa Johnny))


^soooo true!!
i mean really... if i were them, i would be picky too... but i don't think they actually have the time to date or even check girls out....
unless they're their makeup people or something...

.....and well changmin and his 'videos' .... i bet they talk about achem whatevertheywerewatching ...
and yeahh since they don't get actual affection, actually they do...from us fans yes, but we're just not close as well them ...
annddd... that's why they're just really close.... but.. brotherly .... from what i see ^^
they don't actually kiss... on the lips... dry.gif
it's either PSed or plain FUN, they ARE allowed to have fun... smile.gif
but mostly it's just the fans imagination and blah...

Fans really bashed a girl who supposedly kissed yunho?!

oooooook... crazy.gif


lastly... i would like to thank all yas for the information and pictures^^

oh. and .... what did were your Qs for the Yahoo! Live Talk thing?
esmiux
QUOTE(yvonne83 @ Mar 13 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]5213625[/snapback]
I sent a question but my questions never get picked in online interviews dry.gif I asked what everyone asked already, are you coming to [fill in country]? tongue.gif But more like do they intend to have a world tour? lol (they would never come in Belgium anyway...)

Btw, first time posting in this thread (too afraid to break a rule haha). TVXQ is actually one of the last band I thought I would like! One day, I saw one of the NG video of their Banjun drama on youtube and watched it (just because I like NG's) and I hadn't laughed like that in a long time even though I didn't know them! I really liked the humour in all their Banjun drama and the fact that they easily make fun of themselves. Unexpectedly I love their songs, especially Junsu's singing touches me a lot.
Didn't Micky have a girlfriend when he was already in TVXQ? Or maybe I got it completely wrong again...

edit: I like your questions zhenai smile.gif


hey there^^

Wecome to the thread! ^^

We are usually really nice in here hahaha :3

Yeah, a lot of people has known dbsg because of the banjuns Dramas... aahhh such classics XD

And yes, Micky did had a girlfriend when he was already in the group, in fact it was one of BoA's back-up dancer, and she was older than him :3 (i thinkshe was like 23 and Chun was like 18 or sth)



EDit;


QUOTE(jun;MON @ Mar 13 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]5213764[/snapback]
It's hard for the boys to get girlfriends! Lol

It's true, Korean fans just might possible bash the girl if they found out they're dating the boys. :| I know.. scary.

BUT that doesn't stop me from wanting to date Junsu. la la la <3

I thought the whole Yoochun dating BoA's back dancer thing was a rumor. :x
He did previously had one back in the States. What was her name? Starts with the H or something.
-shrugs-


:x The boys probably haven't meet their dream girl. smile.gif Watch their all about DVD and watch them describe their dream girl again. Maybe it's you.
Edit: Good job kayem7289 well written. <3 smile.gif

V I thought it was rumor too, but then I saw this vid in Youtube with yoochun and this girl, with pics of them together, being a couple xD (she was sitting in his lap in one picture i think, and other they were like out on a trip and stuff) I really don't know where does pics came from, but well, those were rather old :x

Yoochun is now with me single xD rofl...


kayem7289 - I agree with your post and i think you are absolutely right, but i guess the problem is not that some fans are obssesive with yunjae, is because some people takes things too seriosly ,,,eeeekkk X.x

but whatever, i'm in a yoosu state of mind all the time xD *dorks around shamelessly like yoosu does*
jun;MON
It's hard for the boys to get girlfriends! Lol

It's true, Korean fans just might possible bash the girl if they found out they're dating the boys. :| I know.. scary.

BUT that doesn't stop me from wanting to date Junsu. la la la <3

I thought the whole Yoochun dating BoA's back dancer thing was a rumor. :x
He did previously had one back in the States. What was her name? Starts with the H or something.
-shrugs-

:x The boys probably haven't meet their dream girl. :) Watch their all about DVD and watch them describe their dream girl again. Maybe it's you.


Edit: Good job kayem7289 well written. <3 :)
Auralie
QUOTE(yvonne83 @ Mar 14 2007, 12:06 AM) [snapback]5213625[/snapback]
I sent a question but my questions never get picked in online interviews dry.gif I asked what everyone asked already, are you coming to [fill in country]? tongue.gif But more like do they intend to have a world tour? lol (they would never come in Belgium anyway...)


i'm not DBSK but I think I can answer it as well and the answer is NO. Simply not profitable enugh we all know that SM's 1# goal is profit.
They didnt even release album outside of asia because sm know they wont make much money with it so the changes that they even tour overseas is VERY little

QUOTE(jun;MON @ Mar 14 2007, 12:20 AM) [snapback]5213764[/snapback]
He did previously had one back in the States. What was her name? Starts with the H or something.
-shrugs-


that "ONE" made me smile rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif *isn't implying anything phew.gif *
(I wonder if he himself remembers all of his "gf"'s names
s3rene
QUOTE(kayem7289 @ Mar 13 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]5213341[/snapback]
Joyce, yahh...I'm finally here and I read your posts. I finally caught up with all the pages (boy there was a lot) and I'm still debating about whether I should post my two cents. After seeing how some people reacted to your harmless posts, I'm kinda afraid, too lol But whatever, what should I be afraid of? We're all MATURE ladies here and we can all reason without having to get all crazy fangirlish.

EDIT: Okay, I'm putting in my two cents. To you obssessive JaeHo lovers, I suggest you not read this because you'll probably take it the wrong way and overreact, just like how some of you did to other posts that weren't even scathing, whasoever...Just a suggestion...

Here's my take on JaeHo. (I AM a JaeHo lover, too, do not call me an anti)

I find it very offensive when fangirls call those who don't love JaeHo as much as other couples "homophobic." It's a rude statement to make when you don't know anything about the opther person. Just because someone doesn't wish to see their crush or idol be with a person of the same sex DOES NOT mean they are homophobic! Think about it, I LOVE Song Hye Kyo and Yoon Eun Hye, they're both beautiful girls. What if they all of sudden became best friends and started hanging out with each other excessively, partying, shopping, sleepovers, etc. and people started referring to them as lesbians? How would you feel about that? Just because they like to be around each other doesn't make them lesbians, and I'm sure there's a lot of fans out there who would jump the bandwagon of "SHK+YEH= tears.gif" so does that make them lesbians?
I don't know about you guys, but if I have a crush on this really hot guy, and then there's this other really hot guy I like, I would NOT want them to be together. Simply because I would prefer them with me. It's fine for you to want them to be that way, but just because someone else doesn't doesn't give you the right to label them that way. We all know that JaeHo/YunJae is loved as a yaoi couple, what if I took another couple that was not known to be a yaoi couple (like MinHo) and started calling them "lovers" and such. I'm sure many of you would be like, "Ummm...They're really cute, but I don't like them that way..." Does this give me the right to call you a homophobe?

But back to the point, I think JaeHo would really appreciate the fact that you care so much about their relationship and observe them so much, but I think that some of you are to the point of just being plain ignorant. It's not necessarily that there's more "real" JaeHo moments, but it's the fact that you pay more attention to them more than any other couple, so naturally you'd tell yourself that there was more loving there. The "special moments" and chemistry some of you mention is just as applicable to other couples, but your biasedness alters your thinking. Pay attention to other couples and you'll notice that they have those "special" moments, too. It's perfectly fine being a total yaoi YunJae camper, but you'll have to face the facts that some might disagree with you and IT'S OKAY.

The thing that also irks me is how people always refer to JaeHo as being the "True" couple. WTH is that supposed to mean? You all talk about how there's all these haters out there who don't support JaeHo? But have you realized that you'd probably feel just the same way if someone else were to praise another couple more than JaeHo? How do you think that makes us YooSu, JaeMin, JaeChun, Hosu, etc. lovers feel when we're told that only JaeHo is a real couple?! To say that our couples are "Fanservices" and your's is not, is hypocritical. If you say stuff about your couple being the best, then we should have the right to claim how our couple is the best, too. This doesn't apply necessarily to JaeHo, but to just about everything in general. What YOU like, someone else may NOT like, don't say I'm wrong because I'll just say you're wrong.

Not to mention, the amount of JaeHo is excessive and obssessive. Honestly, the amount of fangirling and screaming for JaeHo is almost exaggerated. Seriously, I have seen MANY, MANY, MANY photos of them just simply STANDING next to each other, and people are already screaming, "OMG!! That is sooooo JaeHo love right there!" Like someone mentioned to me, JaeHo was simply wearing glasses this one time and it was deemed to be a "JaeHo moment." Really? Just standing next to each other is considered a "_____ moment" now? Wouldn't that mean that every single DBSK pic out there would have a YooSu, JaeChun, JaeMin, HoMin moment because of the order they stand in? It gets annoying when every single picture we see is labeled a JaeHo picture just because they are next to each other. I'm sure all of you would be annoyed if I cropped all my DBSK group pix into JaeChun only, posted them and then screamed about it, right? It's not even the full picture, they are simply standing next to each other, but yet I claim it to be a JaeChun moment, yeah...pretty annoying. Just stop with the overreacting already, we all notice real JaeHo moments just like any of you can recognize other couple moments, so there's no need to blow it out of proportion, it gets excessive.

Lastly, please do not just call them gay because you want it that way. Sure you say there's a lot of evidence, but so what? This doesn't mean you should go around saying that about them. What if JaeHo read all your posts, think about how they'd feel? Each of us has our own wishful thinking, but it's not polite to apply it to real life. JaeHo likes to hold hands, touch each other's thighs, touching in general...Yeah, and??? That's the same with every other couple, they like to touch each other, PERIOD. Calling them a gay couple just encourages more anti-fans, and I as a JaeHo fan, am not very pleased with that? Do you all not read the nasty comments people leave on JaeHo/YunJae tributes on youtube? They are rude, crude, and completely uncalled for, but some of you enable all the hating and dissing to go on. For now, just keep your opinions to yourself so that newbies and anti's won't be able to say all that they say. Until I see them making out or something that CLEARLY states their sexual orientation, I choose to believe what the mojarity believes in. That they are just young boys who are overly affectionate.

Like others said, Koreans in general are more touchy-feely.

I'm not going to apologize beforehand because I, in no way, see this post as offensive in any way, shape or form. It's just an opinion that I'm sure many people feel, but are just too afraid to write up. If some of you feel offended, feel free to reply back with legitimate reasons. Don't just give me some, "If you don't like JaeHo then just go away!" Because I've already stated that I like JaeHo, not an obssessed fan, but I do find them very appealing. I'm sure that if we were to talk about another couple that we love besides JaeHo, some of you wouldn't even join in because I've rarely seen any of you here.

People have different opinions and likings than you, get over it. Don't attack someone or call her a hater because she doesn't agree with you.

I will; however, apologize for the long post.

...That's all.

...


Nicely said although your friend should have posted her thoughts in a more eloquent way because her original post was rather offensive to Jaeho fans. No one is imposing the view of liking Jaeho into anyone here at all. We just don't want to be cornered as crazy, fangirls because of supporting our favorite couple. Your post was rather insightful I might say. smile.gif I'd like to see who said that only Jaeho is the true couple while others are not because I support Minsu, Yoomin, etc as well.

You really can't determine which couple is truly real or not just by obssessive fans or how you consider yourself as dedicated fangirls of DBSK. Only the guys in DBSK know, not us, not the press or whoever. I just feel that there is a sense of hostility everytime we discuss about Jaeho. Yet when fans fantasize about being married to the guys or having children with them, or pairing the boys with other girls are ok.

We do welcome discussions of Jaemin, Jaechun, Yoosu, or other couples in the thread but there are rarely any that I have seen. So you can't really blame us for not taking part in the discussions besides Jaeho. Why don't some of you start discussing about Yoosu or whoever and I'd be gladly put in my input. smile.gif
kuropuu
kayem7289: Very well written. I agree with you on every single one of your points. <333

Truthfully, this whole JaeHo/YoonJae thing brings on a tremendous sense of deja-vu because I've seen similar pairing debates pop up in pretty much EVERY fandom I've ever come across. It's just the way fandoms roll I guess. tongue.gif

As for the boys getting girlfriends...

I'd feel all at once jealous and sorry for the girl... mostly sorry, because the fans would absolutely slaughter her. x_x Even if that weren't the case, dating celebrities are generally very stressful for both parties. And with the boys' already jam-packed schedules the last thing they want is an extra burden like that.

I really do hope that they'll eventually get married and settle down, cuz they absolutely deserve all the happiness they can get.
nghister
BTW, asserting that someone might be gay shouldn't be considered an insult. There is nothing wrong with being gay.
Also, none of those JaeHo spazzers called JaeHo gay; they just fervently wish it. lol

.. I'm defending JaeHo and I'm not even a fan. gah vicx.gif

QUOTE(*Callie* @ Mar 13 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]5213949[/snapback]
Nicely said although your friend should have posted her thoughts in a more eloquent way because her original post was rather offensive to Jaeho fans. No one is imposing the view of liking Jaeho into anyone here at all. We just don't want to be cornered as crazy, fangirls because of supporting our favorite couple. Your post was rather insightful I might say. smile.gif I'd like to see who said that only Jaeho is the true couple while others are not because I support Minsu, Yoomin, etc as well.

You really can't determine which couple is truly real or not just by obssessive fans or how you consider yourself as dedicated fangirls of DBSK. Only the guys in DBSK know, not us, not the press or whoever. I just feel that there is a sense of hostility everytime we discuss about Jaeho. Yet when fans fantasize about being married to the guys or having children with them, or pairing the boys with other girls are ok.

We do welcome discussions of Jaemin, Jaechun, Yoosu, or other couples in the thread but there are rarely any that I have seen. So you can't really blame us for not taking part in the discussions besides Jaeho. Why don't some of you start discussing about Yoosu or whoever and I'd be gladly put in my input. smile.gif


You took the word right out of my mouth.

Seriously, if some of you don't like the JaeHo talks, ignore it and talk about something else. People have a right to talk about what they like from the group and you have a right to ignore them. You do NOT have the right to impose your own beliefs on them or pressure them to stop discussing something that is within the rules. It's not even excessive.
I actually dislike JaeHo a lot, but I don't think it'll be fair to make other people stop discussing the issue just because I don't feel comfortable with it.


Regarding those girlfriends questions.. every time someone mentions 'girlfriend' and 'DBSK' in a sentence nowadays, I immediately think of that hoochie barbie JunSu dressed up. lol
Seriously, I'd crack up so bad if he wants his gf to dress like that, leopard prints and all.



desertedrose, try not to spam.
Perriwynkkle
Boy all this fighting over such an innocent topic like JaeHo? All I can say is this, if you don't like JaeHo, ignore the comments made about them. If you know in your own mind that their relationship is nothing more than friendship, don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. But keep rude comments and opinions to yourself, and this goes for both ends of the arguement. I am not pin pointing this as anyone's fault, all I am saying is that both sides may need to stop bringing up the topics they now know can start a heated arguement. JaeHo lovers, mention JaeHo love if you want, but remember not to overkill it so that the people who don't care for it won't be offended. JaeHo haters, just try and keep your anger and rude comments inside. I hope I am not sounding like a you-know-what here, but I just don't like all the fighting that is going on here, it is making this thread look bad.

Sorry if I offended anyone, I am just trying to bring the two sides to a compromise. I know my comments aren't the reflection of everyones here either, I am mostly just wanting the argueing to stop.

(This is coming from an outsiders point of view, since I like JaeMin, not JaeHo.)
JiNi;
I hope everyone participates in the YAHOO! JAPAN Live english question sending to Tohoshinki 8D <3

oh and I wanted to say about the JAEHO stuff..

It's called FANSERVICE people. rolleyes.gif Don't take it so seriously.
desertedrose
QUOTE(kayem7289 @ Mar 13 2007, 04:33 PM) [snapback]5213341[/snapback]
Joyce, yahh...I'm finally here and I read your posts. I finally caught up with all the pages (boy there was a lot) and I'm still debating about whether I should post my two cents. After seeing how some people reacted to your harmless posts, I'm kinda afraid, too lol But whatever, what should I be afraid of? We're all MATURE ladies here and we can all reason without having to get all crazy fangirlish.

EDIT: Okay, I'm putting in my two cents. To you obssessive JaeHo lovers, I suggest you not read this because you'll probably take it the wrong way and overreact, just like how some of you did to other posts that weren't even scathing, whasoever...Just a suggestion...

Here's my take on JaeHo. (I AM a JaeHo lover, too, do not call me an anti)

I find it very offensive when fangirls call those who don't love JaeHo as much as other couples "homophobic."
......................................................................................................................................

People have different opinions and likings than you, get over it. Don't attack someone or call her a hater because she doesn't agree with you.


...


rolleyes.gif I SECOND THAT!
Ettawen
I found another picture that needs explaining...I'm pretty sure this pic is just two look-a-likes, because I think the guy who is suppose to be Jaejoong is to skinny..buuuut, it looks real...take a look:



Well? Is that really Jaejoong and Yunho KISSING!! Like fully making out...either way it's kinda hot...but it really can't be them, can it?
s3rene
QUOTE(Ettawen @ Mar 13 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]5214177[/snapback]
I found another picture that needs explaining...I'm pretty sure this pic is just two look-a-likes, because I think the guy who is suppose to be Jaejoong is to skinny..buuuut, it looks real...take a look:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Ett...ow20Kissing.jpg

Well? Is that really Jaejoong and Yunho KISSING!! Like fully making out...either way it's kinda hot...but it really can't be them, can it?


You can rest assured that those are not Jaejoong and Yunho. I believe they were coplayers or something similar to that.
stjapo46
hi ^^ 1st time posting here hehe blush.gif or did i post something here before ? haha *bad memory*
about the yahoo! JAPAN live-talk, we can ask as many questions as we want right ? haha i dont even know what 2 ask but i came up with 2 questions =]
i dont think its too late now because the timezone there is just around 1 PM.
i hope mine will make it but i havent send it yet haha sweatingbullets.gif
desertedrose
sorry for posting in soompi again.

I sent my questions for YAHOO JAPAN thing already. But when will it be aired? Is it coming on TV or in the radio? I hope someone will upload it in Youtube as soon as it is aired... I wanna see if my questions get answered.. I want answers to all of them..

Hey, anyone knows why they are not learning English? Is it true that in Korea, English is not taught? I mean not seriously from kindergarten? I mean I m not Korean and neither am I American or European but still we were taught English very well. I wonder how it was with DBSK.


and i just saw this post of pics just above my post.
Hey, why do u guys wanna create controversies by posting those pics? They are not DBSK Members. Please dont do it any further....

EDIT: DANG! Why is it always with me? I didnt get to own page 112.. i m the last one in this page.. oo nooooo... I sud have waited a few seconds...
EDIT: hehe.. but i owned page 141 !! oooooo at last!! another one that i own!
dianaj1985
QUOTE(kayem7289 @ Mar 14 2007, 06:33 AM) [snapback]5213341[/snapback]
Here's my take on JaeHo. (I AM a JaeHo lover, too, do not call me an anti)

I find it very offensive when fangirls call those who don't love JaeHo as much as other couples "homophobic." It's a rude statement to make when you don't know anything about the opther person. Just because someone doesn't wish to see their crush or idol be with a person of the same sex DOES NOT mean they are homophobic! Think about it, I LOVE Song Hye Kyo and Yoon Eun Hye, they're both beautiful girls. What if they all of sudden became best friends and started hanging out with each other excessively, partying, shopping, sleepovers, etc. and people started referring to them as lesbians? How would you feel about that? Just because they like to be around each other doesn't make them lesbians, and I'm sure there's a lot of fans out there who would jump the bandwagon of "SHK+YEH= tears.gif" so does that make them lesbians?
I don't know about you guys, but if I have a crush on this really hot guy, and then there's this other really hot guy I like, I would NOT want them to be together. Simply because I would prefer them with me. It's fine for you to want them to be that way, but just because someone else doesn't doesn't give you the right to label them that way. We all know that JaeHo/YunJae is loved as a yaoi couple, what if I took another couple that was not known to be a yaoi couple (like MinHo) and started calling them "lovers" and such. I'm sure many of you would be like, "Ummm...They're really cute, but I don't like them that way..." Does this give me the right to call you a homophobe?

................ What YOU like, someone else may NOT like, don't say I'm wrong because I'll just say you're wrong.

Not to mention, the amount of JaeHo is excessive and obssessive. Honestly, the amount of fangirling and screaming for JaeHo is almost exaggerated.
we all notice real JaeHo moments just like any of you can recognize other couple moments, so there's no need to blow it out of proportion, it gets excessive.

Lastly, please do not just call them gay because you want it that way. Sure you say there's a lot of evidence, but so what? This doesn't mean you should go around saying that about them. What if JaeHo read all your posts, think about how they'd feel? Each of us has our own wishful thinking, but it's not polite to apply it to real life. JaeHo likes to hold hands, touch each other's thighs, touching in general...Yeah, and??? That's the same with every other couple, they like to touch each other, PERIOD. Calling them a gay couple just encourages more anti-fans, and I as a JaeHo fan, am not very pleased with that? Do you all not read the nasty comments people leave on JaeHo/YunJae tributes on youtube? They are rude, crude, and completely uncalled for, but some of you enable all the hating and dissing to go on. For now, just keep your opinions to yourself so that newbies and anti's won't be able to say all that they say. Until I see them making out or something that CLEARLY states their sexual orientation, I choose to believe what the mojarity believes in. That they are just young boys who are overly affectionate. I don't care how obssessive and observant you are, you can even be just a JaeHo fan (And not a DBSK fan), have all their videos and pay as much attention as you want, but you DO NOT know them. Stop with the speculations. There was a girl who came here once and talked about Yunho+Stephanie, basically described all the special moments they had like how you guys describe the JaeHo moments, and she was bashed for speculating. Hypocrite much?

People have different opinions and likings than you, get over it. Don't attack someone or call her a hater because she doesn't agree with you.

I will; however, apologize for the long post.

...That's all.

...


BRAVO KAYEM~~~ (soory i have to cut out some writings so that i can post pics happy.gif)

i trully feel awake after reading your comment

I wasnt about to say anything at first~~ sweatingbullets.gif
:refrainfromcommenting:
cos i foresee how the topic will lead on to this wacko.gif

The bolded is my point too~~ I really hope the topic will end soon~~
cos i hate to see fans continue on with sad/anger in them :continue to throw snowball at each other:~~
T_T i hope to jus flood the thread with Fabulous Pics of our boys~~~

If you r the couple lovers maybe you should go to the thread dedicated to them
and show all ur affection for them there~~~
i dun think here is a proper thread~~
as we all know it will eventually lead to a quarrel/arguement.....


PIXXIES

< Gold + junsu = MORE SHINE XD
< Hyper Active Junsu at DISNEY
< I love jaejoong's cute expression~~ happy.gif
< HOT JJ
LOVE THIS CHANGMIN PIC~~~ MANLY SEXY DELICIOUS
< CUTE CHANGMIN SMILES~~ XD
WURI POPULAR BOY MICKY
< HOT MICKY
LOVE OUR LEADER SMILES
< HOT YUNHO
< our FAV TVXQ


CREDIT: BESTIZ , SOOMPI TVXQJJ, PRETTYJJ , on the pics + ME
jojojooo
QUOTE(Ettawen @ Mar 13 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]5214177[/snapback]
I found another picture that needs explaining...I'm pretty sure this pic is just two look-a-likes, because I think the guy who is suppose to be Jaejoong is to skinny..buuuut, it looks real...take a look:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Ett...ow20Kissing.jpg
Well? Is that really Jaejoong and Yunho KISSING!! Like fully making out...either way it's kinda hot...but it really can't be them, can it?


OH MY! I WAS STARING AT IT! and kept thinking. "it can't be them it can't be them it can't be them" and of course. i convinced myself that it wasn't them haha. but dang! whoever did it. if they were trying to impersonate yunho and jj. good jobbb. lol. close but NO cigar! =)
s3rene
QUOTE(desertedrose @ Mar 13 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]5214198[/snapback]
and i just saw this post of pics just above my post.
Hey, why do u guys wanna create controversies by posting those pics? Please dont do it any further....


I hope you are not making the assumption that Jaeho fans are the people posting that picture. blink.gif Someone remove that picture please to stop the controversy from stirring.

QUOTE(dianaj1985 @ Mar 13 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]5214215[/snapback]
If you r the couple lovers maybe you should go to the thread dedicated to them
and show all ur affection for them there~~~
i dun think here is a proper thread~~
as we all know it will eventually lead to a quarrel/arguement.....


Don't worry because some of the fans are starting to. You can be at peace now to discuss only about DBSK. smile.gif It might help if you guys would end the argument and move on instead of going back and forth about who is at fault.
xdaisiesx3
Ayeee, what was up with the arguments, guys?
I'm not here for just a day and you guys add like 10 pages.
Of course I backtracked (two hours!!) & found out what happened.
Thank you Kay, for kind of settling everything :]

Anyways. Omg. Where are those Jaejoong-blowing-balloons pictures from?
I want that videooooo! Gahhhhhhhhhh! Anyone who has it, please tell me.
latina
QUOTE(Ettawen @ Mar 13 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]5214177[/snapback]
I found another picture that needs explaining...I'm pretty sure this pic is just two look-a-likes, because I think the guy who is suppose to be Jaejoong is to skinny..buuuut, it looks real...take a look:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Ett...ow20Kissing.jpg

Well? Is that really Jaejoong and Yunho KISSING!! Like fully making out...either way it's kinda hot...but it really can't be them, can it?


that's not them. just look at the armpit of the guy who's supposed to be Jaejoong.. all of us know that Jaejoong doesnt have (or very littlte) armpit hair.

I have a question.. in the rising sun dvd concert, what is the title of the song after Love after Love??" blink.gif
rainie_teukie
haven't posted in a long time, my first post on the new thread.

^regarding your question, it's Please Be My Girl.. one of my favorite performances on the concert eventhough Yunho's like, pulling his pants all the time.. the dance steps are really cute..
judisz
WELL SAID!! kayem7289

QUOTE(nghister @ Mar 13 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]5214028[/snapback]
BTW, asserting that someone might be gay shouldn't be considered an insult. There is nothing wrong with being gay.
Also, none of those JaeHo spazzers called JaeHo gay; they just fervently wish it. lol

Seriously, if some of you don't like the JaeHo talks, ignore it and talk about something else. People have a right to talk about what they like from the group and you have a right to ignore them. You do NOT have the right to impose your own beliefs on them or pressure them to stop discussing something that is within the rules. It's not even excessive.
I actually dislike JaeHo a lot, but I don't think it'll be fair to make other people stop discussing the issue just because I don't feel comfortable with it.

Seriously, I'd crack up so bad if he wants his gf to dress like that, leopard prints and all.


Actually.. I think the word "gay" was intended to be offensive.. but.. I guess now it is kinda just a word...

I don't think any of us intended for the discussions to stop.. but seriously.. almost every single post (or maybe I am just being overly sensitive.. and forgot about the other posts) for a couple of pages are all about the JaeHo.


I remember that leopard prints.. xD It looked GREAT on the doll though...
Ettawen
QUOTE(desertedrose @ Mar 13 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]5214198[/snapback]
sorry for posting in soompi again.

I sent my questions for YAHOO JAPAN thing already. But when will it be aired? Is it coming on TV or in the radio? I hope someone will upload it in Youtube as soon as it is aired... I wanna see if my questions get answered.. I want answers to all of them..

Hey, anyone knows why they are not learning English? Is it true that in Korea, English is not taught? I mean not seriously from kindergarten? I mean I m not Korean and neither am I American or European but still we were taught English very well. I wonder how it was with DBSK.
and i just saw this post of pics just above my post.
Hey, why do u guys wanna create controversies by posting those pics? They are not DBSK Members. Please dont do it any further....

EDIT: DANG! Why is it always with me? I didnt get own page 112.. i m the last one in this page.. oo nooooo... I sud have waited a few seconds...


I didn't mean to offend anyone with that picture. Me and a friend found it and we really didn't know if it was them or not. You see all the videos and pictures of them being very intament, who knows they may actually be a couple. So we were just wondering, that's why I posted it. I'm sorry if it cuased anyone to become upset...
uknowyunho
Hey I saw this at onlyone-uknow. Just wanted to post it...

QUOTE
I have found out that a certain clubbox which is operated by the some oversea fan
has uploaded 2nd concert fan cams.

Those fan cams was posted at the onlyone-uknow.com and haven't been permitted
to be uploaded by the person which is me; the one who taped the films.

Even though I know that it’s not possible to protect the video clips
from being taken and owned privately.

But, uploading and sharing publicly by uploading at the clubbox are different stories.

It is not an appropriate action to take and share neither documents nor video clips
without any prior permission.

Be respectful to whoever is sharing the documents as much as how much the documents are valuable.

It is not permitted to be taken and uploaded any fan cams which are
from onlyone-uknow.com at the clubbox.
badstar
i'm done!! i'm done!!
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YOUTUBE PART 1 1/2

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YOUTUBE PART 2

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Translated by: eimii @ youtube
Subtitles by: badstar

PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS OUT FROM MY CLUBBOX.
Shinobu
QUOTE(kayem7289 @ Mar 13 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]5213341[/snapback]
I find it very offensive when fangirls call those who don't love JaeHo as much as other couples "homophobic." It's a rude statement to make when you don't know anything about the other person. Just because someone doesn't wish to see their crush or idol be with a person of the same sex DOES NOT mean they are homophobic!


Agree. Did I miss that someone said this in the last couple of pages or something? I don't recall seeing any Jaeho fan labeling non-Jaeho fan homophobic. It must be my skimming tendency again.

QUOTE
But back to the point, I think JaeHo would really appreciate the fact that you care so much about their relationship and observe them so much, but I think that some of you are to the point of just being plain ignorant. It's not necessarily that there's more "real" JaeHo moments, but it's the fact that you pay more attention to them more than any other couple, so naturally you'd tell yourself that there was more loving there. The "special moments" and chemistry some of you mention is just as applicable to other couples, but your biasedness alters your thinking. Pay attention to other couples and you'll notice that they have those "special" moments, too. It's perfectly fine being a total yaoi YunJae camper, but you'll have to face the facts that some might disagree with you and IT'S OKAY.


Did I miss a Jaeho fan started on disagreement with non-Jaeho's fan opinion again? I think the peace broke when someone came in and OMG at Jaeho fangirling. It was set in a provoking tone to Jaeho's fan. Maybe the poster meant it other ways but it's hard not to take it in face value. I admit we Jaeho fans were pretty much in our own world at the time but the discussion wasn't red hot dramatic or anything. tongue.gif

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The thing that also irks me is how people always refer to JaeHo as being the "True" couple. WTH is that supposed to mean? You all talk about how there's all these haters out there who don't support JaeHo? But have you realized that you'd probably feel just the same way if someone else were to praise another couple more than JaeHo? How do you think that makes us YooSu, JaeMin, JaeChun, Hosu, etc. lovers feel when we're told that only JaeHo is a real couple?! To say that our couples are "Fanservices" and your's is not, is hypocritical. If you say stuff about your couple being the best, then we should have the right to claim how our couple is the best, too. This doesn't apply necessarily to JaeHo, but to just about everything in general. What YOU like, someone else may NOT like, don't say I'm wrong because I'll just say you're wrong right back.


It's inevitable for fans to be inclined to their own pairings. It's ok for anyone to say whatever couple they like is true because it's their own opinion. I don't really see a big deal in that.

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Not to mention, the amount of JaeHo is excessive and obssessive. Honestly, the amount of fangirling and screaming for JaeHo is almost exaggerated. Seriously, I have seen MANY, MANY, MANY photos of them just simply STANDING next to each other, and people are already screaming, "OMG!! That is sooooo JaeHo love right there!" Like someone mentioned to me, JaeHo was simply wearing glasses this one time and it was deemed to be a "JaeHo moment." Really? Just standing next to each other is considered a "_____ moment" now? Wouldn't that mean that every single DBSK pic out there would have a YooSu, JaeChun, JaeMin, HoMin moment because of the order they stand in? It gets annoying when every single picture we see is labeled a JaeHo picture just because they are next to each other. I'm sure all of you would be annoyed if I cropped all my DBSK group pix into JaeChun only, posted them and then screamed about it, right? It's not even the full picture, they are simply standing next to each other, but yet I claim it to be a JaeChun moment, yeah...pretty annoying. Just stop with the overreacting already, we all notice real JaeHo moments just like any of you can recognize other couple moments, so there's no need to blow it out of proportion, it gets excessive.


Sorry for not reading the whole post but I think I got the vibe. Pairing up couple is a fun thing to do. Whether they're the real deal or not it doesn't really matter. What matter is that we have fun in the process. And it's not like the artists are getting any harm from this kind of thing. Jaeho is not the first couple and will not be the last. It's a sword that cuts both ways. They promotes their popularity in a larger scope but they may have some awkward rumors. Now being the celebrities that they are, they're well aware of that.

I just want to put out my 2 cents because I don't think Jaeho fans went over there board or anything over the past couple of pages. Now that I know Jaeho fangirling is taboo here it's best for me to put my foot in my mouth. Pheww.. this community is rough.
boeboebi
4 more pages.. i just printed out that glasses!min pic since he's just so adorkably nerdy and KEWT!! >><><>><< .. my FITB dvd+cd shipped out today so excited.

here's my email..biggrin.gif:D:D
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Van Le , or MILOU
I'm Vietnamese but I'm living in Mason, OHIO... USA

QUESTION FOR CHANGMINNIE (Shim Changmin)

On the show Yashimmanman last year Changminnie was said by Micky and Yunho that.. he has a lot of hair. Both the front and back. The host took a look and said his hair grows in a very nice way. I'm wondering like on screen and camera and photos, of course we fans and the viewers cannot see any hair, but HOW did he got rid of the hair... shave or wax... or CREAM??!!! I'm sure Tohoshinki's stylists took care of this problem but I'm just wondering how he got rid of the hair.... hahaha....XDDDD.

I'm sorry if this question is somewhat.... unappropriate or something but I'm just wondering. If Tohoshinki's "Strip Game" was revealed on a Korean show this is appropriate isn't it??

I LOVE SHIM CHANGMIN!!!! CHANGMIN HWAITING!!! SARANGHE!!!! CHANGMIN DAISUKI!!!! AH!!!... I'm sorry....

--milou


i really wonder if it's appropriate =X
1S0ULL
sorry for my "offensive" post . i dont mean it that way . SOORRRY TO ALL JAEHO LOVERS. but Kay basically said what i wanted to say but in a longer and more appropriate manner . she always backs me up XD . there is this one friend i know from AF and shes a mad dbsk fan . and she totally got called "homophobic" cause she doesnt like jaeho . . >___> . im just like . wtf? its really immature in a way when over obsessive jaeho fans get soo uptight when someone comments about how they dont like jaeho. dont get me wrong im a jaeho fan. but its just that i dont like it when they get all the praise as a couple. like when fans say they are a "TRUE" couple . and when people go OMG when they stand beside each other . just my opinion xD .
once again . my apologies to all jaeho fans that felt insulted by my post XD . dont feel offended cause i TOTALLY didnt mean it ><"
himeno15
QUOTE(Shinobu @ Mar 13 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]5214945[/snapback]
Sorry for not reading the whole post but I think I got the vibe. Pairing up couple is a fun thing to do. Whether they're the real deal or not it doesn't really matter. What matter is that we have fun in the process. And it's not like the artists are getting any harm from this kind of thing. Jaeho is not the first couple and will not be the last. It's a sword that cuts both ways. They promotes their popularity in a larger scope but they may have some awkward rumors. Now being the celebrities that they are, they're well aware of that.

I just want to put out my 2 cents because I don't think Jaeho fans went over there board or anything over the past couple of pages. Now that I know Jaeho fangirling is taboo here it's best for me to put my foot in my mouth. Pheww.. this community is rough.


jaeho fans didn't go overboard by exaggerating things... the "other fans" just like to put us at fault by saying we like to blow things out of proportion rolleyes.gif

if some of u have looked closely, none of us said anything about u guys being homophobic so don't start assuming the untrue mellow.gif

this is getting interesting... only a harmless jaeho topic made the thread tense up like this smile.gif pheww this is a hostile community indeed in regard to a certain topic. rolleyes.gif

EDIT: it seems that there is an apology to jaeho fans about the offensive comment earlier so no need to drag the issue smile.gif just forget everything and continue with ur discussions of dbsk

i will shut up too ph34r.gif
1S0ULL
QUOTE(esmiux @ Mar 13 2007, 05:46 PM) [snapback]5212980[/snapback]
ZOMG! JAEHO AND YOOSU ARE SOOOOO MARRIEDD!!! THEY LOVE EACH OTHER SO MUCH!!!! AND THEY'LL HAVE KIDS TOGETHER!! <33333

I KEED! ... I'm just messing with you guys :3 *hands dongbang cookies*

Really, No one here has stated that they are gay or anything, don't panic rolleyes.gif

WE KNOW they are not gay.

WE KNOW they just love each other as friends.

WE KNOW they like girls... they are just too picky.... [color=#FF0000]or yoochun thinks Junsu is prettier
>D

HAHHA . yur soo jokes . before i read your "I KEED" i ACTUALLY thought you meant that . i was like . O____O okayy, someone is tooo obsessivee XD . haha . i really agree with your "WE KNOW" statements. people need to understand

himeno15: dude. you have to relaxx . yur wayy to uptight. people are just talking about how they feel about jaeho . just chilll
yenfung83
wOW..Kayem7289..Thats truth. Iw onder how Jaeho will react if they read the post.
I am Jaeho Fans too. But just liked them its enough.
No matter what, its better if anyone who like to diccuss about Jaeho
go to AF. There are Jaeho thread there.
No matter what, we all DBSK Fans.^^ DBSK Hwaiting!!!!!

Edit : lolx esmiux. U scared me. sweatingbullets.gif
dankyung
whoa man.that is proabably the sexiest candid pic of changmin up there. TT


anyways the Q&A for tohoshinki O.O man that's so exciting. but is it gonna be on the yahoo japan website? or do we download or wat not TT can't wait for it biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
kayem7289
Thank you to everyone for understanding what I was trying to say, I'm glad everyone here is open-minded and didn't take my post the wrong way.

Shinobu, talking about your favorite couple is NOT taboo here. The fact that this forum is such an open place for everyone is the problem. There are a lot of DBSK fans at soompi, but there are aslo many anti-fans here. Which means they can all access our little forum, see us chatting about certain things and go around fabricating issues. Like I said before, loving someone is not the problem, but when it gets excessive and speculations occur, trouble arises. Talking about people we don't personally know in a certain light, enables people to talk negatively. I'm sure you don't want people talking badly about them, do you? I was one of those people who didn't understand the whole coupling thing when I first came to know DBSK, now multiply that by as many people there are out there in the world who know nothing. That is overwhelming.
And my statements were not based purely on what has happened within the past few pages, I know that you are still pretty new to the DBSK world (I think), so you haven't been to as many forums or read as many discussions as I have. My opinions are not just blatant things that I wanted to say. Feel free to talk about whatever you want, just make sure you remember that there are THOUSANDS of people who visit soompi everyday, and I can guarantee those thousands of people are not DBSK/JaeHo fans...

*CALLIE*, yeah, I guess my friend should've been a little more subtle. She's still kind of new here, so I think we can all forgive her.
I'm also very glad that you took my post the right way. I'm all for free opinions and open discussions, but like I said, we have to consider that there are many, many people who visit this forum who might not understand. I'm all for wishful thinking. Heck, even I find myself sometimes wishing for a little yaoi action. But we should always remind everyone that is only WISHFUL THINKING and not promote our own dreams as reality. It misleads people, and I'm only thinking about what's best for the boys. Whatever they want to be I am happy to accept, but until I hear it straight out of their mouths, nothing is going to change.

...

And remember that there is actually no bashing going on, so none of you gals should really worry about anything. This discussion will eventually die, just like other topics that come back and forth.

On a lighter note:
Thanks Badstar! I already watched them a couple hours ago and they were awesome, thanks again! But arrgghh...Part one is finally downloading after over and hour of trying...

EDIT:
Himeno15, I'm glad you edited your post because I think you misunderstood once again. NEVER once in my post do I say that soompi fans are only the obssessive-crazed fans. If you were here not too long ago, there was a JaeHo discussion before, too. When some people said that they didn't like JaeHo in that way, a girl came in calling those people homophobes. Not to mention, I saw the JaeHo/YunJae thread of at AF and got all excited, but what did the first post say? "If you don't support JaeHo and/or is a homophobe then please leave..." Something like that, I don't quite remember, so that just proves how close-minded and uptight some people are. Just because someone doesn't support a coupling doesn't mean that the person is homophobe, that's ludicrous! What if I start a YooSu thread and some people came in there saying how they didn't like how YooSu was acting too cute all the time, or that YooSu was fanservice? Do I have the right to call her a homophobe for not simply liking YooSu? NO. End of story.

...
himeno15
1SOULL: i am a girl!! i apologize too for being oversensitive about the topic and i am sorry to the other fans of dbsk

i hope there will not be anymore disagreement among fans because we all love dbsk here

peace to all blush.gif
babiiiloveux
hi everyone. First time posting in The new DongBang thread, nice to meet you all~
i'm glad the Jaeho thing have settle down a bit.. ( also a fan )


http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=63183920pv4.png
i was wondering if anyone have this on youtube or something?


and also i would like to thanks to all those people who posted pictures/Gif/CB and others related to DBSK biggrin.gif
sheilapiglet
Thanks so much for the subbed clip of the guys cooking badstar!.....I loved it when Yunho was telling Junsu to concentrate but later on, the screen says that Yunho should concentrate too cuz he kept saying "hurry up..hurry up"..lol...and his little comments here and there were so adorkable...him pretending to be the waiter and recommending the chocolate to Micky the customer was so cute....poor Junsu was the one that had to eat it at the end..and he even said he got better at jakenpo...hahaha..I wonder where the rest went tho?..cuz if you look at the plate, there were only like 2 pieces of chocolate left..lol..weird...and from this clip, you can definately tell that Junsu's a lefty cuz when he was grating the chocolate, he switched hands and said "I use my left hand"..lol...and did anyone else notice all the little sarcastic remarks that changmin was making throughout the clip?...haha...he always seems like the quiet and innocent one, but if you pay close attention, he really says some funny stuff!...and of course yunho ended it off perfectly by offering the viewers some cookie..hehe...it really made me crave for some!=P

*edit*

great, I started a page again...mm, have nothing to share...but here's the "Junsu Fighting!" clip with english subs...so cute!..but I just noticed something..they should really wear their seatbelts...didn't they learn from their car accident before?..*thud*...wonder if it's the law to wear seatbelts in korea?..anyways, happy viewing=):

Click Here
credit: julimars
Shinobu
QUOTE(kayem7289 @ Mar 13 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]5215348[/snapback]
Shinbou, talking about your favorite couple is NOT taboo here. The fact that this forum is such an open place for everyone is the problem. There are a lot of DBSK fans at soompi, but there are aslo many anti-fans here. Which means they can all access our little forum, see us chatting about certain things and go around fabricating issues. Like I said before, loving someone is not the problem, but when it gets excessive and speculations occur, trouble arises. Talking about people we don't personally know in a certain light, enables people to talk negatively. I'm sure you don't want people talking badly about them, do you? I was one of those people who didn't understand the whole coupling thing when I first came to know DBSK, now multiply that by as many people there are out there in the world who know nothing. That is overwhelming.
And my statements were not based purely on what has happened within the past few pages, I know that you are still pretty new to the DBSK world (I think), so you haven't been to as many forums or read as many discussions as I have. My opinions are not just blatant things that I wanted to say. Feel free to talk about whatever you want, just make sure you remember that there are THOUSANDS of people who visit soompi everyday, and I can guarantee those thousands of people are not DBSK/JaeHo fans...


I understand there is surely a history in this but it's only fair to address the issue per case. I don't think the whole thing should be lumped together. Since I started discussing nothing negative was exchanged so it's reasonable to not lump all the history together with this tiny little incident and Jaeho fans didn't even start it in this case. I do appreciate the warning however I or anyone for that matter do not like to be blamed for something we did not cause. Talking about people we don't know is everyone's own right. Not talking negatively about people we don't know is a courtesy. We haven't talked negatively about the two we adore therefore we still keep our courtesy. I really can't stop people from having negative feeling and response to certain views if they choose not to keep their courtesy. It would be kind of ridiculous for some to seal their views for the sake of the extremists. I'm all for whatever views they have just don't take it against another.
1S0ULL

OKAY ! .last post of the day
himeno15: yeah i know yur a girl hahah . xD just call everyone dude . okayy . we're cool right ?

WE ALL LOVE DBSK HERE : )


^does anyone have a better picture of this ?
toomuchsmiling
For the Yahoo Live Japan Talk I asked 'are u guys ever coming to the USA?' laugh.gif Whoever watches that LIVE TALK first, report whether a question such as that was answered!!! I'll be watching for the subbed clip! <3
ramennoodle
QUOTE(aq_dsini @ Mar 6 2007, 11:37 PM) [snapback]5156566[/snapback]
Does the Five in Black cd only edition have 24 page booklet??
and how about the cd+dvd edition??
makes me more confuse which one to buy.. =_______=


QUOTE(Forever_Charmed @ Mar 7 2007, 02:15 AM) [snapback]5157821[/snapback]
Well, you see this is the point where i get tempted, which means SM will make MORE money
out of us!
Only the 24 page booklet comes with the CD only version. Plus the CD version comes with 3 bonus tracks.
For the CD-DVD version it only comes out with the DVD, i'm not sure if it comes with the booklet though, and also no
bonus tracks for the CD-DVD version!


wut is the difference between the first press and regular press of the CD/DVD version
teenaxboee
I've been wondering how you can watch this YAHOO! JAPAN live talk? Does anyone have the link to it? You can pm it to me if you want. Thank you in advance! (:
tama
^GIRLS, can we please just STOP!
It's been more than a couple of pages of JUST TIT FOR TAT!
NO DISCUSSION at all about dong bang, just SHE said this and SHE said that..
it's getting tiresome and the atmosphere.. sigh

I've refrained from commenting but I've had quite a few people telling me on MSN that
"soompi dbsk thread is at IT again" etc etc
=_=

PLEASE, just stop. Getting the last word in isnt all that..


Moving on smile.gif
Somewhere in the last few pages, someone wrote that they missed the deadline for the YAHOO! JAPAN live-talk question. I just wanted to tell that person, they havent!

You can still email them the questions.. you have 6 hours from now to do so.

Cheers.

uruchai
from the Five in the Black DVD. hope it wasnt posted yet; havent backtracked pages yet.

look who's proud of his balloon creation:


look who's being wacky now...


i like Jae's "wth" look he's giving Min

cant keep a piano away from sexy boy, eh

credits: prettyjj.com

thanks badstar for subbing the CL vids.
vietblue99
Sorry there are so many pgs to backtrack already but I was wondering if you guys could tell me which members are left handed again?
vvn
QUOTE(vietblue99 @ Mar 13 2007, 09:25 PM) [snapback]5216245[/snapback]
Sorry there are so many pgs to backtrack already but I was wondering if you guys could tell me which members are left handed again?


Micky & Xiah & (YunHo) as well I heard

Thanks for all the pictures and subbed videos everyone!!
I haven't really paid attention to what people have been writing, it's just too long and what I got from it is there was a lot of JaeHo loving and bashing? Haha. But I agree with tama, everyone should stop 'cause it's wasting up space here and I only care to read about my Dong Bang, not about your opinions. Thanks. Hahahaha. Man, I'm mean. But I hope you know what I mean. happy.gif
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