but if you're a true fan you wouldn't return it! (referring to article on amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/Unhappy-Breaking-Daw...asin=031606792X )
it makes me sad already that edward is not real
then it makes me feel even more sad that stephenie will have to ..get all this flack for having created a disappointing book to like..what..half her readers?
its people's fault for buying the book..was it realllly that bad that they have to return it? :/
yeah there are a couple complaints i have i have about it..i wish the sex scenes were more..but then again it IS young adult..so there SHOULd be no evidence of wangs slipping out or anything..
i feel bad for stephenie. she tried. she can't please everyone. bummer for her man.

^ thats so freaking sad!
it wasnt THAT bad -________-
people need to stop bashing her .. THEY bought it! stupid ignorant ppl - -

well i wouldn't call it a..BAD book..
i'd call it disappointing..yeah..
it wasn't the book that captivated me like twilight did..
but then again
their writing style changes over the years and ..things happen
its a shame that there was so much hype over this
we can just hope that things will somehow get better..
dudeeeeeee as long as stephenie meyer writes books...i will keep reading them
what a feeling it must be to have so much hype over a book..then the next day, all you do hear are people bashing the book. bashing her.. bummer man. i guess we (the ones who wanted more) were just..yeah we were hoping for that greatness that came from twilight. i feel bummy right now thinking about it.
edward will always be in my heart though >__>

hmmm... it's not the people's fault for buying it. i mean, they did want to know how the series ended, and sadly, they weren't satisfied with the book and felt that the book wasn't worth the amount of money they spent on it. that's why they return it, they're entitled to their own opinion and money. They just rather spend that amount of money on something else. Also, unlike what most people thing, the book wasn't a disappointment because of the lack of description on the sex scenes, it's because the book failed to deliver. The book had a lot of potential to be phenomenal, but it fell short. very short.

Throughout the whole 3 books, SM always implied the theme of choice and sacrifice that comes along with that choice. However, she never followed through with that theme. Letting Bella have everything she wanted without any sacrifice made the whole book and stuff really, really pointless. I don't know about you, but after reading the books, I always wondered, "oh man, what is she gonna choose Life or death? If she chooses to become a vampire, then she has to leave everything she knows behind, what she has grown up to know and love, etc etc. But if she chooses to live, she won't have Edward, the love of her life. What will she do?" That's what i sort of expected Breaking dawn to be about: the decisions she has to make for her the rest of her life (along with an epic volturi battle with the cullens and werewolves).

I thought the some of breaking dawn would have bella contemplating about being a vampire and stuff because she had to choose between jacob and edward as well, and that the wedding would be somewhere along the middle. Also, i thought bella's transformation would be like EPIC like, finally she's gonna be a vampire. but it's just...there. Another thing that was upsetting was the whole pregnancy thing. I mean, the readers barely got to see bella and edward as a married couple and then all of a sudden BAM they're parents. It was way too abrupt and made the story lose it's focus. don't get me started on the imprinting. it's just...just not done. i mean what the freak?

Overall, there was just no twilight feel. the characters were out of character. Kudos for SM for trying, but i guess...it was just...an EPIC FAIL. No offense to those who actually enjoyed the book. I just felt that everything that lead up to this book, plot and everything, gave this book SOO MUCH POTENTIAL, but it just failed to use it and totally disappointed.




That's messed up to call people ignorant when they don't like a book and state their opinions. They're not bashing SM they're probably bashing the book. or rather, stating what they thought of it. They bought, read it, didn't like it, and returned it. why is that ignorant?

i just finished BD TODAY!
and its definitely my second most favorite book in the saga.
if people are complaining about Edward being different or whatever, like helloo?!?! thats what MIDNIGHT SUN IS FOR!
and omg Jacobs volume was the absolute besst thing ever. boy, did that make me cry!

How am I not a TRUE fan just because I didn't enjoy reading Breaking Dawn? YES, I did return my copy but I STILL love the series, just NOT Breaking Dawn.

It's the same thing with Harry Potter. I'm sure there is probably one book from the series that people did not enjoy. I didn't enjoy reading Chamber of Secrets but that does not mean I don't like the series anymore. I'm still an rabid fan.

Can a character really be out of character?

It's understandable if Bella was still human and Edward never asked what her thoughts were again. That's "out of character".

An actor portraying a character and becoming more like himself during a play than the character itself is "out of character".

But Bella turned into a vampire and became a mother. That has got to change Bella in some way, even in personality. Think about your mother. What does she provide for you? Everything. She sacrifices her own needs and wants to cater to you. So kind of easy to see why Bella focuses so much of her attention on Renesme (Even if she didn't have to sacrifice anything, there's still that need to protect them from harm, etc). It's a mother and daughter bond that we will never truly understand until we ourselves have children. Also, she's older, too! Doesn't she have the right to mature?

And what about Edward? We know he was holding out on her when they kissed for the first time. Isn't there also a possibility that he could also change from Bella's transformation? I mean, for the most part, we knew Edward as the overprotective boyfriend. But now, he doesn't really have to worry about it because Bella is strong. She's a newborn who could destroy her entire family with the wrong twitch. As well, there's fatherhood. Edward was so disgusted with the baby in the beginning, but when he found out that he could hear Renesme's thoughts, all of that changed. It was that pinacle point where he realized that this is a baby, not a thing, that both he and Bella created. That's a blissful moment that could change someone's life, real-life or not.

One other thing: sex. I think they weren't out of character to want sex so much, since there was so much sexual tension in Twilight and Eclipse. They probably wanted to hump each other away the moment things got serious but were too shy to say it.

And Jacob. Jacob would also do anything to save Bella's life. You've seen it in Eclipse. That's why he left Sam, because he felt it was his duty to protect her from them. And also because drinking human blood from a cup was saving her life, Jacob allowed it. We all know he was disgusted by it, but it saved Bella, and that's all that mattered to him. When he imprinted, everything was different. Obviously, we don't truly know how it is for someone to imprint on another, so Stephenie showed it throughout the third book of Breaking Dawn. So tell me, how is he being out of character, when imprinting makes you want to do everything for that one person? Even to stick around with vampires?

I really don't think characters can be out of character, because they're always changing (at least the rounded characters). I understand that it might seem that way, because the first three books were about Bella in high school and her being human. But that's not the case anymore. And we're bound to see people change when something as huge as becoming a vampire or becoming a parent enters a person's life.

Maybe you can truly call it out of character when--let's say--the screenwriter of Twilight the movie makes Bella a trackstar instead of a clumsy girl.



Hmm... that is true. I still think she made one sacrifice out of everything: Renee. Even if it isn't as important as Jacob or Charlie, Renee is her mother. She has been with her mother for 17 years. That had to be heart-breaking to never tell Renee what she had become and to never talk to her again. Plus, she can't visit her mother because Jacksonville is so sunny. It wasn't mentioned much in Breaking Dawn, but that is a sacrifice, even if it's a very small one.

new article from the New York Times

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol...icle4492238.ece

i'm too lazy to respond to your entire thing but i'll agree with the latter half..that's true..it is their money..but like, when i mean fan, they should support her ya know. keep the book even if it wasn't all that great. but then again itw as their money so they can do whatever. even if the book maybe sucked at least she had a book >_> hahaha what a bad argument. but yeah..we just all made it into something too great and she ..unfortunately she didn't seem to deliver..yup
really i just read the book for bella/edward's relationship..i didn't really want to analyze too much (cause we already did it during the school year) but i missed the spark that occured in twilight. its like seeing fireworks for the first time with your boyfriend or whatever, its a magical feeling ..unfortunately there weren't as many flames as there was for twilight as opposed to BD..

LOL!

so i guess someone else thinks of renesme the same way!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8080702528.html

Another bad review from the Washington Post.

oh i loved the last time of that article "Meyer has put a stake through the heart of her own beloved creation."

i found BD disappointing too. but it seems like when you're hyping up something so much and you find out it doesn't meet your expectations, then you immediately categorize it as "fail." however, i do wish that BD took a different direction. I would've liked it if they didn't have Renesmee. The whole family thing kind of killed the romance for me.

I thought bella's pregnancy was totally random, but when jacob imprinted, it made total sense. stephenie was tying everyone together at the end and creating a big family.
she said in an mtv article that "if you think about it, the characters were always heading in this direction." and it makes sense.

i was disappointed at first because there were less bangs and shocks, but breaking dawn is really the wrapping up of the story. bella is finally the hero instead of being saved all the time, and everyone finds their place. thinking back on it, it was really an enjoyable book.

p.s, i loved jacob's POV! his comments were hilarious, and it was cool that stephenie could write out his thought process so successfully.

what i DIDNT understand-- edward wanted jacob to have sex with bella but still be married to him? that was SO strange and out of place.

woops, forgot my spoiler tags ;]

^Well, Bella did choose Edward when she could've chosen Jacob, so that might be why he thought she would still want to be with him. Then we all know that Bella wanted a child because it's Edward's child, but he failed to realize that she didn't want someone else's child. But he tried anyway, because he thought it was one possible option that would occur because apparantly, she still loves Jacob. It doesn't seem as weird if it was a situation where there was something wrong with a husband's sperm and he wanted the wife to be happy because she couldn't have a child with him, so he suggested that she should get a sperm donor. It's kind of the same context, but it's just weird because Jacob is Bella's best friend.

It's just something to play with. Edward was too desperate to think coherently.

unlike many people i actually REALLY REALLY liked this book.
It had a happy ending which is pretty different
I mean i read so much crazy forced violent dramtic endings
I dont think i could take it anymore. Like Jk Rowlings last book my gosh to much to handle.
I didnt think i could handle another crazy unhappy violent dramatic endings I read in many fanfics/books
I liked it a whole lot and a happy ending was what i was looking for <3

i enjoyed the book, but it wasnt the best out of the four. I thought the plot was good, but it was quite weak. I wished more action was shown or maybe disputes....for a 750-ish page book, it seemed to drag but nevertheless, i still enjoyed Bella and Edward's relationship. I think Stephenie Meyer has done a marvelous job in writing this book, Jacob's POV, i thought was marvelous and ingenious!! But i guess, in this world, u cant really please everyone.

i'm guessing that edward thought that being a mother was so important to bella. he probably felt that he'd rather have bella go through a normal pregnancy that wouldn't kill her...even if it meant that jacob would've been the father instead of him.

yeah i see what you mean.. but i still cant get over the feeling of bella being shared or something. weirddd

I FINALLY finished reading it .
It's been 9 days V_V .
It took me so long compared to the rest of the books.
Because it was really disappointing for me.
It was just WEIRD .
Oh well, just waiting for the Twilight movie now (:

renesmee killed it.


breaking dawn failed.



smeyer is cockblock.

SMEYER WANTS TWO MOVIES FOR BREAKING DAWN..

OH HELL NO

^^ Yea that was the rumour, and HALE NO too. I can't even see this book as a movie so, 2 movies?!?!?!

haha i pretty much agree... but SM still made a CRAP LOAD just from book sales alone....
i don't see a movie for this book either.

it's kinda weird too getting married at 18 and having bella seemed like a nympho for edward when she was mortal and immortal lol.

i wished there was just a better plot...to end on her final book.. this whole renesmee thing was pretty disappointing. 'Nessie" wasn't even that great to keep or to go through all that pain for.

I don't like how everyone always gives into Bella either, sometimes i just wished one of them took control and just showed her who's boss.

Althought breaking dawn had their funny parts i still didn't find this one that intense, it was rather rushed

although i really wanted to slap caius across the face... luckily Aro saved the whole Volturi from making a fool of themselves. i was sad that nothing happened to Jane though, i wish she got really hurt or just died.

overall, it was the kind of book where you can read all of it but at the same time be able to put it down and continue when you have the time kind of book. i didn't find myself as absorbed into BD as much as the first 3 >___<;; i am a sucker for happy endings and i guess the ending was expected! hehe and no epilogue?!?!? even if it's forever it wouldn't hurt to find out a bit more about their forever... it is her last book too

oh well, atleast the twilight movie is comming out soon! the extended version of the ballet studio scene is on youtube! so it's good to hear that the movie is done and ready to release anytime since some kids already got to watch the whole thing >___<!!!

how did some kids already get to watch it? I wanna see already too!

yeah, i thought that was really sick, too, but edward will be edward....



i agree 100%.... it would have been better if bella and edward had the rest of their existence all to themselves, imo. but since sm is a mother herself, maybe she thought it was a good idea? lol. but hey, others seemed to like it. O_O


and oh, please gawd, no.... not a movie for breaking dawn, seriously. i wonder what rating it will get, what with bella's gory childbirth and all. but that will be just nasty. T.T

Breaking Dawn has been getting a lot of negative reviews

I'm almost finish reading it the second time and I have to say that I was surprise that I did not find a lot of memorable quotes in the book. The only quote that stuck through my mind was the one Bella uttered on the last pages of the book which is SM's favorite Edward/Bella scene.

I always enjoyed the quotes from the first three books especially New Moon - they always get to me. I enjoyed Edward's cheesy lines and even Bella's painful confessions in New Moon. I even love Jacob's quotes in Eclipse. They were so true and sincere that you can't help but identify and agree with what they say. I guess it's why I said she lost the magic of E/B - I did not find a lot of romantic scenes/descriptions in this book maybe with the exception of the last scene. I always imagined that Jacob's imprinting would be romantic eversince I read how he explained imprinting to Bella but it was such a letdown. I think he deserves better.

I just got my copie of Breaking Dawn. And I'm not reading anything to spoil it for me. T_T

*runs away* XD

They got to see it because their parents were part of the movie making process >___<!!! lucky!!!

totally. i know a lot of people think jacob's imprinting is sick, but sm already prepared us for this with quil's imprinting.. hes not a pedophile or anything. i think it was a clever twist to have jacob imprint on nessie but it wasn't very exciting.

^^ the whole book wasn't very exciting IMO

yeah i was also pretty sad and shocked that i was able to put it down and continue it next time...

this thread is comming to an end soon since BD is the last book

OWN 135

^^ there's always Midnight Sun!

^^^

isn't that just the edward version of twilight?

i read breaking dawn yesterday!
how i see it, the book is good if you dont compare it to the other books in the saga
because its very hard to end the saga in a way that mak everyone happy.

BUT IS TILL LOVE THE SAGA WITH ALL MY HEART

Breaking Dawn movie ?!
UHhhh . Weird ?
I don't even know how they're gonna do New Moon with Bella being depressed the first half and all...

Yes, but you said that this thread will come to an end, but there's Midnight Sun and I'm sure people will probably be talking about here as well.

They're probably going to cut a lot of it.

and theres still the Twilight info guidebook coming out. i'm gonna be waiting for it! so that'll contribute to this threads activity lol.

^^ I want to see what's inside the guide before I get it.

I love the saga, it's great. I'm trying to read Breaking Dawn but I'm too scared to finish the book because I don't want it to end. LOL. I feel a bit silly.

i have a feeling its just gonna be stuff you can find on twilight lexicon anyway but. hopefully PICTURES!

Didn't Steph say that MS would be like..800 pages *whatever* long?

if people hate breaking dawn so much, then why don't they just create their own ending?

^ LOL, some people actually made their own fanfics for certain parts of the book {like the sex scene}
they just print it out and stick it right between the pages

WHAT?!?!

well 754 was a pretty fast read too.

hopefully MS makes up for BD.

^ i`m pretty sure MS will be pretty exciting, i`ve been dying to know how Edward feels in Twilight.

Well, my friend told me she read this fanfic online, and they made Jacob imprint on someone as a solution to Bella and Jacob's odd relationship. If you think about it, it does make sense. What is Stephenie supposed to do? Kill Jacob? Make him love Bella forever? I mean, he's the type of character that will. Make him fall in love with Leah? How would that be possible when Leah's thoughts are so vicious?

I never really got why people wanted him to imprint on Angela, though, haha.

And I do agree with you. Why don't people just make their own ending since it looks SO EASY? Go ahead and make a back story for all the characters and making up dialogue and putting everything into one "book".

Just too bad, though. It isn't that easy. Even if there are thousands of people who like to write fanfics, there's always something missing. Once in a while, there's that fantastic fanfic. But otherwise, usually, there's something missing.

Yea that's what I think so too, but yes hopefully there will be pictures.

What is Midnight Sun? o.o

^^ it's just Twilight in Edward's perspective