I finally started the series not too long ago after hearing lots about the series, and deciding that it would be a good change of pace from all the history I'm reading this semester.

I finished the first two books rather quickly. The dialogue between Edward and Bella makes me cringe at times, as did the repetition of the same adjectives over and over (A friend pointed out that the audiobook would make a great drinking game LOL), but they were made for decent leisure reading.

I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority that enjoyed "New Moon" more than "Twilight" and I think that is directly due to the lack of Edward and the inclusion of Jacob.

Now I'm about 50 pages into "Eclipse" and will hopefully finish the series soon.

It's strange, the prose really irritates me but I still want to find out what happens in the end (as in for myself not on wikipedia).

I'm even tempted to go see the movie just to see how they make Edward sparkle. For some reason I just picture him flashing like Neil Patrick Harris on the unicorn in Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay.

There's an article in The Wall Street Journal regarding the MS leak. Even The Wall Street Journal has something to say about this. Twilight is really exploding like crazy.

The Wall Street Journal Article on Midnight Sun Leak

Yes, and the author has decided to cease writing it due to her state of frustration.
I can't believe how the pdf was leaked. On her site?!

^
It wasn't on her site, the people she gave her copies to, leaked em. So yeah, she was furious.
And depressed, so she's stopped writing.

Okay, correct me if i'm wrong..

Yeah, I started on Breaking Dawn last night.... *sigh* Can't say my hopes are that high.

I also enjoyed New Moon more than Twilight, for the same reason that you pointed out. Reading about Edward or his lines kind of makes me want to stab my eyes out. He's so protecting and so "perfect" that he holds absolutely no interest to me. It's like reading a story starring a Ken Barbie doll--not very interesting. His reactions are SO expected and SO cliche that it's painful.

Jacob, on the other hand, had far more interesting lines and his character was carved more carefully. He's funnier, wittier, and has flaws that are quite apparent. So...if I had to side with ANYONE in the Twilight series, it would be Jacob.

-ginger

I love Edward but hate how he will willingly let Bella go if she doesn't want him.
He could at least be jealous or fight for his love.

I've lost sleep to this book. Dammit.

haha! me too. i was sleep deprived for a week.

oh! and it was also a stressful experience.
i was so affected that i had to stop reading and take deep breaths.

And this is why I LOVEEEEEE Jacob so much.

A Website called Blast reviewed the 12 chapters of Midnight Sun.....
and they think is awesome!!!

Click Here For Review
nothing but great reviews for the incomplete book

Me too! In New Moon, the
part where Edward was leaving Bella,
I completely fell apart.
/;



So I wore my Twilight shirt today
from Hot Topic. The one with Edward
on it and says " You are my life now "
on the back. And i got SOOO many
comments on my shirt and asking
where I got it. It was insanely
overwhelming- I just lovelovelove
meeting fellow Twilight saga lovers

.....I really hope she'll continue writing Midnight Sun.




hahahah! I was getting impatient waiting for Edward to come back! I think I enjoyed New Moon the least of the Twilight Saga, it was depressing and there was barely any Edward. But when they do get reunited in the end.... hehehe. <3333

Thank you for the link. I just read the review. I guess I'm not the only one who thoroughly enjoyed MS. I liked TW as well but I think the whole series would have really been more interesting if it was told thru Edward's perspective because honestly speaking he is more interesting as a character than Bella. I believe there is still hope for MS. We just have to give SM a little of breathing space after the leak. Maybe after she reads the wonder reviews of the draft she will reconsider continuing with the book.

I have to agree. Also, he seems to drag other characters down when he interacts with them, Bella especially. I will admit that I am not a fan of Bella, but there are times when she isn't so bad and times where seriously I just want her to shut up- and usually those are times when she's talking to or about Edward. Not only are we subjected to Edward's cliches we have to put up with pages and pages of Bella's blathering about his perfection-something that the character admits makes her stupid at times.

However, her exchanges with Jacob are much enjoyable to read- the dialogue is much better (it doesn't remind me of something I might hear in a soap opera or those cheesy romance novels with Fabio on the cover), the dynamic is a bit more complex, and they also contain the majority of the books' humor. Actually, even Edward's long conversation with Jacob in Eclipse was more tolerable than usual- he still plays the noble/prince charming card but its much less grating when the other character participating actively calls him out on it to some extent.

I'm nearly done with Eclipse, how is Breaking Dawn working out?

Jacob was like the only reason why I read the series! He was funny, interesting, and hm.. unlike the other he was a three dimensional character who grew! His relationship with Bella's is so much more um.. for the lack of better word, healthier than Bella's and Edward's. When with Edward, Bella's constantly moping about how she isn't PRETTY ENOUGH for Edward and she needs to become a vampire so she will be beautiful enough to stand by his side (I know I know it's not the ONLY reason) It's like, from day one, she is sooooo attracted to how gorgeous he is, she can't get past it. And why should appearances matter when they are so in love with each other to throw away everything???

New Moon was so great because I got to see Jacob's character develope and grow out of the young 16 yr old (or whatever he was) and become a man that Bella could depend on (Less Edward, more Jacob). Eclipse was uh, the best one out of the series since it had a lot of action and less gooey cliche lines exchanged between Edward and Bella. Yea, I knew that they would end up with each other and that made me feel so bad for Jacob. But imprinting on Nessie, the john tesh? That's NOT FAIR. To have their (Bella's and Jacob's) attraction described as something inevitable because of Nessie, that's just not fair. I'd rather have him die a hero trying to protect Bella from the Volturi or something.. now he's a perv who's waiting for a baby to grow up in 6 years.

anyways, here's a quote from RPattz about Edward



lol I love this kid. I agree with him like 120%. Edward was so 느끼해 throughout the whole thing, I felt like I needed to eat a jar of kimchi.

^ Really?
i absolutely don't believe that Edward is the perfect guy.... he may be ALMOST perfect but not PERFECT.

yeah he would come off to us being cliche because he's perceived as being such a romantic
but think about it he was born in 1901 and died 17 years later. He would have been considered already a "man" at that age
and so his manners would have been already matured.
and the only reason why he always listens to her is because after 108 years he finally found someone, a companion, a love. something he never felt and knew could exist for him. He even said to Bella, that before he met her his life was basically empty.

for me, if i put this all together and begin reading the Twilight Series, i don't see a perfectly sculpted, dazzling, god-like man. I see a weathered and run-down, soul who finally found happiness. That is why i love his character so much, because to me every word in every chapter of every book shows me how he wants to keep this new-found happiness alive.

Does anyone know what Marcus's powers were?

he can see relationships, actually how deep they run.

If you go on her site she'll tell you a little bit about it on an FAQ somewhere. Marcus apparently was in love with Aro's sister and both he and the sister wanted to leave Aro and live in peace but Aro found out and killed his own sister so Marcus would stay. Marcus stays only because of Chelsea holding him there but he acts indifferent because he may stay loyal by foce but he's not enthusiastic about it.

**Okay maybe I"m a little obsessed

Juhee, I totally agree with you on your take on Edward's character. Maybe for us in the 20th century, the way Edward talks and acts is just a bit too over the top at times...like you won't find a guy now who could be like him. But we have to take into account that he may still be alive now but he was born a century ago and during does times what Edward is doing is something one would expect from a gentleman and I think that Edward is an example of the men in those days. I think that we perceive Edward as totally perfect and God-like but when you look at it he seems normal for somebody born more than 100 years ago..with some addition here and there because he has gone thru and seen a lot in his life as an immortal.

I believe that Edward is the perfect anti-thesis to all the guys that we see being portrayed in movies and TV shows. I think that people, especially ladies and girls, who know Edward's character in Twilight now has this standard of what a man can and should be.

Ladies SHOULD have an "Edward standard" when it comes to relationships? Sorry, but it's unrealistic as well as unhelpful. No one should constantly be comparing their future partner to an incredibly unrealistic, fictional character. Not only will it set the girl up for major disappointment when she realizes that her dream man just isn't as dazzlingly perfect as Edward, but what guy will tolerate being held up to a measuring rod set by some person who can never exist?

Sorry, I don't agree with you that Edward is what women should uphold as the ideal spouse. He's bossy, overprotective, and treats Bella like a pretty little child. I wouldn't be able to stand being in a relationship with someone like that. I know girls swoon over Edward because he's their prince charming, but...I don't want a prince at all. I want a normal human that I can relate to, not one that should be placed on a pedestal for being so much greater than everyone else.

-ginger

^i think what she means is that because of the character edward, girls these days won't settle for less than what they think they deserve, and they'll know when a guy is treating them well or not. correct me if i'm wrong.

well I think the way you think of it is the realisitic point of view of what most girls should want in a guy..but all girls want their shining prince riding on a horse to rescue them.that kind of thing and I think edward in this book is bella's prince and her way of portraying her knight in shining armor....and girls like reading this type of book *including myself HAH* LOL..because they're dreamers, dreaming that one day maybe their knight in shining armor would come too but maybe not like an edward....

hmm I hope I didn't sound too confusing HAHA..

Lol but...it's not! I don't know ANY of my close friends who think of themselves as helpless damsel who is just waiting for a strong knight to sweep them away and take care of them forever. Then again, my friends are all in their 20s and early 30s. I guess it's fair to say that traditional romantics will be wooed by the Cullen factor and that more "feminist" women might be turned off by it.

-ginger

tknoodles, you got my point exactly. I think even the moms over at Twilightmoms.com would agree that because of Edward a lot of girls who are into Twilight expect more from their men. Twilight opened the eyes of a lot of young girls that it's not wrong to look and find someone who will be good to you. That it's possible to love someone so passionately without resorting to premarital sex. I think that even SM will agree to that given her Mormon beliefs. Some might think that Edward is just a fantasy man..and unattainable "prince" but if girls will only think that they deserve more than the jerks around them then the guys have no choice but to rise to the ocassion, so to speak.

well..this IS twilight related..
http://oxymoronassoc.livejournal.com/468348.html
they updated!!
growing up cullen got an update! 8/28
and its just as funny

spudd, i have to say, kellan looks incredibly hot in your sig bytheway. goodness me man. freaking ..its unbelievable. :l words cannot describe the stare he gives off.

I just finished reading Breaking Dawn, and I have mixed feelings about it. It was an enjoyable read over all, but I hated the fact that Bella was arleady perfect, and didn't do what all the new-borns did. It seemed as if Stephanie Meyer tried to make her seem too perfect. I also don't like how Bella was the one who stopped the fight from breaking out, I mean it's awesome she has that talent, but I don't like how she's portrayed as different from most other new-borns. I actually didn't mind Renesmee, although some people said they didn't really like the fact Bella got pregnant. I actually found it interesting, a half-vampire child! Edward was still hot and lovely, and I was shocked that Alice actually left them..although it was actually part of the plan! Overall, to be honest, I think it would have been better to just read up to Eclipse for me. To just finish the story there, would have been a tiny bit better for me. But finishing the story at Breaking Dawn was okay too! It wasn't horrible as some people rated it like 2/10 on Amazon! I can't wait to read Midnight Sun if Stephanie Meyer decides to continue to write it!

Nobody can be Edward, isn't that pretty impossible? He's a fantasy character, after all.

And also, his characterization is nothing I would deem original or revolutionary compared to characters we see nowadays. Basically, take Prince Charming - except, good guys are too boring, so now let's add some spice: make him an 100 year old vampire with a 'mysterious past' and emo-like tendencies. He's Prince Charming with a side of bad boy.

YAYYYYYYYYY~ I've finished Eclipse! Waiting for Breaking Dawn now. I think i will totally go mad while waiting for Midnight Sun. <33 this series

HAHAHA
of course! but then I think ALL girls still want that one guy..ya know? whether they're damsels in distress or not..there's always that one guy they want..that perfect guy that all other girls will envy and admire and want to have..haha..>.>....OH MAN I love how this book gets so interesting..analyzing it =D its like a love and relationship topic HAHA

^^ I'm sorry, but NO, I am SO not a damsels in distress. I am very independent and I don't want to reply on my significant other. I don't want a perfect boyfriend, because we as humans, there is no such thing as being perfect. And why would I want someone where other girls would want to envy? That just causes too much drama. I just want someone who treats me well and that's all that matters.

Hi, my name is Edward. I didnt know I was a standard, but I'm single! Are you in need of saving???

So I just finished the Twilight Series and wanted to bow to Stephanie Meyers for an amazing journey minus 400 pages of New Moon (Hated).

I never was into the Twilight craze and then like those before I decided to research it further. It was Edward that captivated me. The depth to him in the excerpt of Midnight Sun was enough for me to give this series a chance. In hindsight I can say I should never judge of book by its fans because the stories in Twilight were wonderful, thrilling, and amazing.

I know some were disappointed with the ending of Breaking Dawn, and I cannot understand why. It was beautiful! I knew one way or another that they would make it out alright, but the way Steph did it was just wonderfully delightful. She drew us into these characters, their stories, their love, and most of all their sheer determination to decide for themselves what living thoroughly means.

The last scene made my heart smile in a quiet way, because it was not the end of their journey it was the beginning of eternity for them. Finally they could be...just be and not worry about this or that. I smiled as I read the last sentence wishing them the best in my own way. I was sending them off to whatever future lies ahead of them. I loved how it ended it was peaceful and steady and just soothing.

I think Steph meant to leave us with a few memories. First, love has no reason and the answer is never truly clear but it exists when you make a choice to love or to let go. Second, family is not defined by the blood that runs through you but by the love and care you show towards those who have blessed your life. Third, normal is overrated and cannot be defined because everyone buts their view into it. Don't wish to be normal or extra-ordinary. Wish to be kind, honest, and someone who shines brightly from the inside.

For me personally this series opened my eyes to how powerful love can be when it is pointed in the right direction. Love should never be normal or ordinary. It is the fact that you can love and do love that makes it extra-ordinary.

As far as characters go, Edward will always make me smile. His dedication to Bella was sincere but I wished he did not always give into her. Love truly makes even the crystal clear eyes of a vampire quite blind. Bella is not my favorite heroine. I liked her more in Breaking Dawn....but she is selfish. Isn't that the reality of us all though. Even so since this is fiction I could not stand her selfishness, whininess, and wishy-washy Jacob crap. Made me want to smash her face:)

Some might want to smash mine for that, but to each there own. Jacob, just saying his name makes me want to growl. He is by far an annoyance. He is just so forceful, all-knowing, and childish. Could he learn some manners and how to fight for what he wants with some elegance. Yes, I know he was there for Bella when she needed a friend but that does not make him her keeper nor give him that hold he thinks he has on her. I hated Bella for using him and continuing to do it once the ignorance was gone and she saw his heart.

As for the Cullens, I adored them all but Alice mostly. She is refreshing and like a sunflower in the book. Emmett is like a teddy bear and his laughter and fun is contagious. I loved the variations of love that existed in this family. They were better than some humans and vampire is only a base for who they are.

Overall, I loved this series including all those annoyances:) it had so many wonderful lines and moments. I only wish that she make a parallel version from Edwards point of few. There is so much complexity to him. I would have loved to see New Moon in his point of view. Lastly, my favorite book was Eclipse. It was when their love became real to me. No more love at first sight or stupid I want to protect you so I must leave crap. This was when their relationship became a real relationship and they had to deal with the future.

Thanks for a great journey Stephanie Meyer, I hope to enjoy it visually on the big screen, and indulge myself in the memories till Midnight Sun.

....hence I said damsel in distress or NOT.........and I never said anything about being perfect..other girls not necessarily envy it's more like..."I want a guy that can treat me right?" not necessarily the same type of guy or something that might cause drama..you know how you admire couples and girls with good bfs..it's like that..you don't get into drama with them you just envy that they got a good bf.. you know? I think I might of reworded it wrong in the last post..sorry T_T..LOL..but I get what you're saying....

What happened to all the people who love Edward ):

Yeah, many of us want a guy that is respected and a "good" guy at heart, but...other than those two traits, how does that relate to Edward at all? I don't want a guy who is overprotective. I don't want a guy who always says they know what's best for me. I don't want a guy to protect me because I'm too clumsy to do it myself.

I just felt like...there was too much of an immediate lovey-dovey connection between the two for me to be pulled into it.
The constant perfection presented by him left nothing to the imagination.

-ginger

i wouldnt mind being a damsel in distress. probably just because i'm so outta luck for a dude that i would love an Edward because he's SO incredibly perfect. because at the end of the day Edward the fictional character just ruins lives just as much as a real guy.

i still love him!! LOL!

REQUEST!!!

im in an acting class... my professor told us to bring in a favorite book to read out loud a small paragraph or two to the class.
Obviously i chose the Twilight series but i have no idea what to read...
it needs to be at least 2 paragraphs from any of the 4 books...
not too long, not too short...

can anyone help me out??

man i STILL haven't finished BD yet. it's totally ruining the whole series for me, which is funny because i really only enjoyed Twilight. i disliked New Moon and Eclipse so i really hoped for Breaking Dawn to be better. i really wish i would've just bought Twilight and not the rest...too bad i threw away the receipts.

anyway i'm developing a strong dislike for this series. there's just so many things wrong with it. and the only characters i truly ever liked were alice and jacob. overall i suppose it's a good fun read but hard to relate to and NO ONE should view Edward as their ideal boyfriend.

hmm anyone know if there is a box set of the series? paper back preferably? hardcover without bd is 98 bucks on amazon..goodness >_>
if not then i guess buying all the books separately is cheap too
also, since the movie is coming out, are they still going to publish twilight with ORIGINAL cover and not the movie cover?

^^ no, they wouldn't have the box set in paper back yet because only Twilight and NM are in paper back so far and WOW $98?! I bought my box set without BD on amazon for like $40 something....

I've read Twilight, New Moon and Eclipse and I can't really be bothered reading Breaking Dawn.

Not that I hate Twilight or anything but the obsessive fangirls piss me off to no end and the sudden Twilight boom, resulting in girls who normally wouldn't be caught dead reading a non-school text bringing their Twilight books into class to read, just makes me writhe and shrivel in annoyance. =.=

Bella is a hussy and Edward should NOT be revered as 'the perfect boyfriend'. IMO he displays the same qualities as a lot of abusive boyfriends and creepy serial killers.

There will be a box set of all four in hardback that will be released end of this month of next month. It's on BN for pre0rder for like 53 bucks.

i smell feminism rushing into this thread.

i heard someone took what she wrote so far (for midnight sun) and leaked it to the public and now is too pissed off to finish it.

I finished the series.

It's definitely not going down as one of my top reads, but at least I gave it a shot instead of writing it off as something I'd hate without any sort of proof (which I did for a while).

The last book of Breaking Dawn was painful- I seriously just ended up skimming over about 75% of it.

Someone mentioned someplace, that they felt like they should have just stopped reading after "Eclipse" and I feel that way too. Though the Jacob POV was interesting in Breaking Dawn- it couldn't counteract all the other stuff that just irked me.

Did anyone else find the books preachy at times? It was something that steadily got worse as the series progressed and I think came to a head with the whole marriage and virture thing. Plus, whole marrying/pairing- extremely young girls off with much older men theme (think about it Bella and Edward and a couple of the werewolves), kind of creeped me out a bit. It promoted really unequal relationships, not just physically, but also in the power dynamic and age/ experience-wise. Not exactly a concept I'd want my daughter to idealize- but hey that's my take on things.

I guess on the bright side it was a nice change from the copious amounts of historical non-fiction I have to do.

Heard so much rave about it so I decided to read a little. Mostly Midnight Sun, the chapters that were released on SM's wesite. I really really could not see Kristen Stewart as Bella... just really could not put the two together.

The book's alright, long..a bit draggy.. I almost felt like she was too descriptive. I don't know.. not my cup of tea I suppose.

Well I guess you have a point there, but as we know the main series were written from Bella's point of view who's so totally in love with Edward, that she saw him as the "perfect boyfriend". But guys don't you think you're being way too serious about this - for a book that is not so serious after all. It's just a teenage vampire romance - it was original in the begging, got draggy later and boring at the end, but honestly I didn't expect anything more, because it was too hyped up. I read the four books and I quite liked Breaking Dawn - we actually got the see what happens instead of just waiting for something to happen... I liked all the weird things that no one seems to like (except for the fact that Bella always took becoming a vampire so lightly), and I guess that was because I never took Twilight for anything more than it was. It's cool and refreshing and that's it. Don't read too much into it.

^ That's exactly my perspective of this series. It's purely for entertainment, so although you may find important themes in it (Fight for love, etc.), it's not meant to be taken so seriously. ;]

omg i love twilight ^___^ ! i couldnt stop reading it <3, i have to wait to another day to buy new moon T__T" i really wanna read the other books so bad !!

Tell Meyer that she takes herself too seriously, then. I mean, comparing her works and characters with Pride and Prejudice, Wuthering Heights, etc...