So, for all you guys iTouch user, have any of you guys jailbreak it?
Tell me your experience here..

I'm thinking of jailbreaking my iTouch soon.. maybe next week or so.. ^^

uhm what exactly is jailbreaking ?

ive done the 1.1.1 instant jailbreak. it was really easy, i was supprised at how quick it was. after i jailbroke to 1.1.1, i jailbroke to 1.1.2 after that and you can use the installer app to install any program you want (including the iphone apps like mail/maps/etc).

its safe too, because even if you fail somehow, you can always do a force restore on the ipod and in itunes.

i recommend it for all

i've got the touch. what does jailbreaking mean? is it like unlocking it kind of .. i have frds who have the iphone and they have an application thing they can d/l all tehse program things. is that what it is?

Google is everyone's friend!

Jailbreaking, in short, is hacking the Touch/iPhone. Google for more info or youtube it. There are A LOT of info/videos about it.

didnt know someone hacked it already, sounds pretty awesome

my brother did it for me but when i updated the software for the touch it went retarded me so i'm back with the regular stuff =[. it should work now though, right? with the new updates and all? i miss playing TTR on my touch lol

I think there's an hacked version already for the newest firmware. Obviously, I don't know since I don't use one, but I think I read it somewhere on Engadget. You could always bookmark a iPod Touch fansite and get the newest info from them.

ya, as dkyang mentioned, theres a jailbreak for 1.1.2. thats the version i have.

if you wanna update to it, you gotta restore back to 1.1.1, goto jailbreakme.com on the ipod to jailbreak, then oktoprep, then upgrade to 1.1.2 then touchfree jailbreak. THEN you have 1.1.2.

more info on http://www.ipodtouchfans.com

How stable are your touches? Like if you open 4 tabs in safari with soompi and have AIM open and listen to music will you crash?

if I ever get one ill stress test it but i dont im waiting and hopinggg lol

if you open multiple tabs, say you're view 1 tab, and theres 3 others in the background, safari caches only the tab you're looking at. so if you goto the other tabs, it reloads the entire pages over...which is sorta a pain...

it gets a lil slow with some large pages or pdfs...but hey, thats not the MAIN reason you'd consider a iphone/ipod touch right?

haha I use my pocket pc (Axim x50v) like a computer I have my PDF views and all that fun stuff in it. And the biggest limitation I run into is the anti-multitasking design of the Windows Mobile OS and my 64mb worth of ram (32 free).

so maybe its not as perfect of a browsing experience that I had imagined. I know page render speed = king but hrm crashable.

do you guys need to reformat the itouch before you jailbreak it??

nope. BUT if you updated to 1.1.2, you need to downgrade (force restore to 1.1.1), which involves a "formatting".

what kinda cool apps can you install onto the ipod touch?

There are many from accelerometer ones to the one I find the most amusing iPhysics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQUWnVyXtns
And the fun ones like GBA and NES emulators...

Of course there are "useful" ones like AIM and IRC as well...

Take a look at http://www.installerapps.com/

wedict (based on stardict, a dictionary where you can download dictionary files (like english (oxford, m-w, etc), english to chinese, chinese to english, etc) and lookup words), weather, mail, stocks, maps, netstumbler, vnsea (vnc viewer app; control your computer)

i have already jailbreak my iTouch but what do I DL to get features like the iPhone (maps and stuff) also how do I get AIM and Yahoo! Messenger on it?

Go up.. the link http://www.ipodtouchfans.com those people will be able to better guide you through the process.

Generally you just add sources to the Installer program and just go at it and install anything interesting.

Why am I above their post?

Okay
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/29/instant-jai...and-ipod-touch/
Says do that basic stuff to jailbreak. "In order for SSH to work, you must download BSD subsystem, Community Sources, and Open SSH, which can all be found under 'System' in the installer app." so do that and I think once community sources is added you're good to go.

If its not listed ApolloIM and theres a MobileChat you can add the sources for and install from that.

how come there are so many tutorials teaching you the long way of "jailbreaking" when there's already the "instant jailbreak"?
does it have anything to do with which one is more stable?

after you jailbreak it, is there any difference between 1.1.1 and 1.1.2?
does 1.1.1 still have the "installer app"?


thanks for the website!
i'll jailbreak my ipod when i have time....

is there a super mario game for the ipod touch?
i've seen someone playing that on youtube


weather and stocks?
so that's just similar to the apps on the iphone right?
google maps is cool....i'm gonna get that one


is MSN messenger available as well??


those are the only steps for "instant jailbreak"?

Yes MSN and AIM are available =) But I can't seem to find a Yahoo! Messenger package. Is there one?

how come there are so many tutorials teaching you the long way of "jailbreaking" when there's already the "instant jailbreak"?
does it have anything to do with which one is more stable?
Old ideas vs newest versions of the hack thats streamlined. I think they do the same thing except they just made it automatic.

after you jailbreak it, is there any difference between 1.1.1 and 1.1.2?
does 1.1.1 still have the "installer app"?
You need 1.1.1 to do the exploit, then install the upgrade program, then installt he 1.1.2 otherwise you can't hack it and it wont be able to install anything.

thanks for the website!
i'll jailbreak my ipod when i have time....

is there a super mario game for the ipod touch?
i've seen someone playing that on youtube
Yes theres a NES and game boy emulators... is that good enough? you can play everything

weather and stocks?
so that's just similar to the apps on the iphone right?
google maps is cool....i'm gonna get that one
Those must be copied not so legally from a iphone to install.



those are the only steps for "instant jailbreak"?
I plan to follow that link when I get my touch...

what apps have you guys installed so far I don't like the spring board summer board much very crude messenger IMO

Any guidance for that language tool? http://www.iphoneskinning.com/2007/11/wedi...dictionary.html I added that source and its like woah

i use jivetalk (goto http://iphone.beejive.com on safari); its a webapp that works well. apollo isnt supported anymore, so i dumped that one.
read above ^^. just bookmark jivetalk in safari. it supports google talk/yahoo/aim/msn/jabber/icq/myspace.


hmm... well if you add the "community sources" installer.app source, you will get a section in installer called "Dictionaries" where you can download really good english dictionaries.

weiphone source (add: http://app.weiphone.com/installer) has good english-chinese, chinese-eng dictionaries.

havent found a source for other dictionaries, so you'll hafta add it on your own if you're learning another language/want another language in there. that site you mentioned tells you how to do it. basically, you goto stardict's official dictionary section and download any dictionary of your choice. they come in tarballs, and are formatted for stardict. so you gotta extract it for wedict.

1. grab a dictionary, say...quick korean dict.tar.bz2
2. extract the whole thing using winzip or 7zip or whatever. (i noticed winrar had trouble during step#3...so i had to use 7zip)
3. extract the quick_english-korean.dict.dz file to get the quick_english-korean.dict file
4. SFTP (or use AFP or other programs) the .dict and .idx files to /private/var/root/Library/weDict/ (make sure the .dict .idx files have the same name...in this case quick_english-korean.dict AND quick_english-korean.idx --> i noticed that 7zip named them something weird on 2nd extract)
5. load up wedict on your iphone/ipodtouch and select the new dictionary to use!

if you're wondering how to use it...its pretty easy. just click on weDict on your springboard, click on the i button, check the dictionaries you want to search through, then press DONE, then click on the magnifying glass icon to bring up the keyboard to type the word you wanna search for!

useful app

so if my ipod touch is not unlocked yet, i can use jivetalk?
all i do is punch in the address into my safari right?

also, are the webapps on apple's website free?
how do you download them?
but those applications are not that attractive anyways...

webapps are free. you just browse them with the safari app. yeah...most of those webapps are sorta gimmicky..

and yes, just punch in jivetalk's address (http://iphone.beejive.com) into safari and you can use it, even without jailbreak.

I should write a review for this soon...

So far I have crashed it completely once (destroyed the applications folder hahaah)

^ i have the same clear crystal case as you.
i only got it for $30hkd (not even $4usd) in HK.

yep $3.53
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9497

Sweeeeeeeeet . I just got an Ipod Touch today . (: .
So you need 1.1.1 then 1.1.2?

Yeah, most likely you will need to downgrade to 1.1.1 jailbreak, install OKtoPrep then upgrade to 1.1.2, then jailbreak it again

i'm planning to jailbreak my ipod touch
can anyone make a list of steps what i need to do?
just scared that i'm gonna mess this up...

^Look it up on youtube. There are A LOT of videos on it. =]

My bf just did it for me a couple of minutes ago. Now he's installing apps. I can't wait to see my baby tomorrow. (Both of them, of course)=]

what's BSD, SHH, and oktoprep? not sure what they are....but most guides say it's necessary to install them.
i thought the last step was go to jailbreakme.com, install "installer", and then you're done.....but seems like i was wrong.
so yeah, don't follow this guide:
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/29/instant-jai...and-ipod-touch/
there are more steps you need to do after installing the "installer" from jailbreakme.com, which they didn't say

i thought ppl said the process will be really quick.
seems like it would take at least 20-30 minutes to go through the jailbreaking process (downgrade to 1.1.1 --> jailbreak --> prepare 1.1.1 for 1.1.2 update by doing the oktoprep thing? --> update to 1.1.2 --> jailbreak again)
and there are so many guides. each guide tells you a different way of jailbreaking.....so confusing

i need to do more research on this before jailbreaking my ipod.

well it seems that apple is releasing a SDK that supports 3rd-party applications next month.
guess i'll just wait for that instead of jailbreaking and voiding my warranty

so apple never said anything about releasing a SDK so far....
and there's the release of the newest firmware version (1.1.3)
how would you jailbreak that?

BSD = basic programs they need for installing things, like linux tools.
SSH = think dos that lets you remotely control the ipod.
OKtoprep = you downgrade your ipod to 1.1.1 > Jailbreak it > Install OKtoPrep so you can upgrade to 1.1.2 and jailbreak. The OKtoPrep basically puts in some hacks so that when you upgrade it to 1.1.2 there will be a opening for your computer to be able to downgrade it. 1.1.2 fills in all the security holes so you can't jailbreak it.

Yeah it will take a while if you want to go back up to 1.1.2 the actual hack to go to the site is fast. 30 minutes is a good estimate if you have everything on your computer already.


Jailbreaking doesn't really void your warranty. Most computers out there say your warranty is void if you change the operating system... its next to impossible to kill a ipod touch, crash it really bad? Start recovery mode, do a restore to 1.1.1 (and loose everything you did) then start over.


You can't jailbreak 1.1.3 yet. Most likely it will take a few weeks before they will be able to come up with a OKtoPrep program to let you upgrade to 1.1.3 jailbreak friendly.

Im not holding my breath for the SDK.
Did you see? Apple said if you want Google Map + Mail they charge you $20 for that upgrade otherwise you can use the 1.1.3 without those tools. I don't know about you, but it looks like they want to charge for those programs and even with the SDK, I doubt many will remain free. Im thinking there will be itunes like buy a program for $6 to load it in.

you're most likely right
i guess i'll wait for 1.1.3 jailbreak and unlock my ipod!
what updates are on the 1.1.3 firmware?

i would like to know that too. so i googled around and made a list:

seems like a nice upgrade; more significant than the 1.1.1 to 1.1.2 upgrade (which only added the ability to add calendar notes). im not sure if i want to lose my jailbroken apps though and pay $20 for the apps i already have (even though they're officially illegal now?) i think after the jailbreak is made for 1.1.3, 3rd party devs will hafta update their apps for 1.1.3, which seems like a pain, but it will probably be worth it eventually

is it still possible to upgrade to 1.1.2 jailbreak even though 1.1.3 is out?
do you recommend waiting for the 1.1.3 jailbreak or go ahead with 1.1.2 jailbreak?

and if i do jailbreak to 1.1.2 jailbreak, do i use itunes 1.5 or 1.6?

yes.

theres a 1.1.2 firmware floating around the net (called: iPod1,1_1.1.2_3B48b_Restore.ipsw). so grab that. so restore to 1.1.1 if you dont already have that version (yes, theres a 1.1.1 firmware around still too called iPod1,1_1.1.1_3A110a_Restore.ipsw) then jailbreak by going to jailbreakme.com in safari. then oktoprep 1.1.2. then manually upgrade the firmware with itunes. then use touchfree to jailbreak 1.1.2. either itunes 7.5, 7.6 should work fine.

and well, the only difference in 1.1.2 compared to 1.1.1 is the addition of the calendar fix (at least from what i can see)..and even then, theres a 3rd party fix that fixes it for 1.1.1. so if you dont really need that feature, you could just wait and see what happens with the 1.1.3 jailbreak. i think this 1.1.3 seems pretty significant as i said in my last post.

and you probably should ask/look for further jailbreaking questions on a ipod touch forum...

oh god i wish i saw this earlier lol
i got a case for $5 and it doesnt even hav the clip on...booo

today, i used apple's standard calc.app that's built into the ipod touch during class today, and it sux, since it cant do anything besides the basic operations. also, the more advanced calcs you download off installer are all in RPN! i am not familiar with RPN at all! there are webapps however, and this one webapp is quite nice, but you can only access it when you're online. so i took this, edited the source code to take out some of the ads and saved the files so now you can use this offline, since you dont always have a wifi hotspot near you. i've posted this here so you guys can take advantage of this too.


left=apple's calc.app; right=belfry's webapp ported offline by myself

requirements (to use this 'webapp' offline): jailbroken ipod touch or iphone, apache webserver, SSH (or someway of uploading to the filesystem)

Download it! then extract it, SSH this to your /Library/Webserver/Documents/ folder on your ipod, then browse to http://127.0.0.1/Belfry%20SciCalc.htm in safari!


hope this helps some of you students out there...those with iphones/ipod touches

my iphone ipowns ur itouch

glad to see others JB'in their stuff!

never!

and btw, its ipod touch, and not itouch!!!

i just jailbroke my ipod touch to 1.1.3!
it works and i also got iphone apps on it......wooooooooooooooooootttt =)

to jailbreak 1.1.1 can be done using the Iphone wi-fi.

to jailbreak 1.1.2 has to be done using a jailbreak program you download.

to jailbreak 1.1.3 can be done using wi-fi as well?

am i right?

yup those are the steps.

i only know how to downgrade from 1.1.2 to 1.1.1, but not from 1.1.3 to 1.1.1
but since mine came with 1.1.2, it worked
but i'm still trying to figure out how to do it on my brother's ipod since he has 1.1.3 now

okay i'm tired of the "."

if you have 113 you downgrade to 111 and jailbreak/upgrade/unlock to 112. Well this is for the iPhone, i'm a bit unclear what to do with iTouches.