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jisung
Chinese director hopes 'The Promise' will appeal to Westerners

TAIPEI (AP)- Chinese director Chen Kaige said yesterday he hoped Westerners will be able to see classic Oriental beauty amid the state-of-the-art special effects his newly-released fantasy epic "The Promise."

Chen, who is in Taiwan for the film's premier, said Chinese directors have traditionally shunned fantasy adventures like the "Lord of the Rings" and "Harry Potter" as products "being created to promote Western film technologies." But the director said he tried the genre in hopes of producing a more lighthearted film than his other productions, such as the 1993 Oscar-nominated "Farewell My Concubine," which chronicles the tragic lives of two actors.

"The Promise"recently won a Golden Globe award nomination for the best foreign language film. The movie is about a royal concubine who makes a deal with a deity to give up true love in exchange for everlasting beauty and affluence.

Chen said he used strong colors, like crimson armor and robes, to portray the distinct characters in the film.

"It created strong and direct effects, unlike the light and poetic touch typical of Chinese art," Chen said in a meeting with art students at a theater in Taipei. But Chen maintained "The Promise" is Oriental in essence. For example, he said he tried to use scenes of falling petals to capture the "Oriental view of life as transient but splendid."

"I hope to let Westerners see the beauty, the Oriental beauty," Chen said.

Human nature is also revealed in Chen's fantasy world.

Japanese actor Hiroyuki Sanada plays a general compelled to choose between love and power, while the royal concubine played by Hong Kong's Cecilia Cheung is doomed by her destiny to give up love for fame, Chen said.

The slave, played by South Korean Jang Dong-gun, is "treated like a dowtrodden but lives more like a human being by sticking to his ideals," Chen said.

The fantasy adventure is the most expensive Chinese production ever at $35 million and is one of the first major projects, for TWC, a new company launched by Miramax co-founders Harvey and Bob Weinstein.

source: The Philippine Star, World section, Celebrity News, December 19, 2005

dontot85
so no one knows when the movie is coming out in the US then??? i really want to see this movie. I'm such a sucker for these epic asian movies haha
damn.u
Probably the only reason I'm going to watch this movie is for Nic Tse. He looks damn HOT and IRRISITABLE! The movie Trailer wasn't all that interesting. Cecila looks like a whore, the graphic looks cheap, JDG seems like slave. Just pretty weird... Hopefully it doesn't turn out bad.


-noudles
jisung
Kung fu film breaks China records


Kung fu epic film The Promise has taken $9m (£5.1m) in its first four days of release, making it the biggest-ever movie opening in China.

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The Promise sees Jang Dong-Gun's slave
fall in love with a princess


Chen Kaige's film broke the previous record set by Kung Fu Hustle, according to trade website Screen Daily.

The Promise, which cost a reported $42m (£23.7m) to make, is China's submission for the best foreign film Oscar and is up for a Golden Globe.

The film stars Korean actor Jang Dung-Kun and Japan's Hiroyuki Sanada.

Comedy

The Promise's budget is reported to be the highest in Chinese history, overtaking the $30m spent on 2002's Hero, directed by Chen's former cinematographer Zhang Yimou.

It took $2.6m (£1.47m) on its opening day and highest single day revenue on 17 December was estimated to be £3m (£1.7m) - again breaking the record set by Kung Fu Hustle of $2.7m.

Martial arts comedy film Kung Fu Hustle, directed by Stephen Chou, was released in China in 2004.

The Promise - renamed Master of the Crimson Armor in the US - enjoyed a modest debut in Hong Kong where it took $310,000 (£175,500).

It opened against King Kong which raked in $1.3m (£735,600), while a limited release of Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire took $480,000 (£271,650).

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4545128.stm

credit: YoonEe, just jang dong gun
freebird
QUOTE(dontot85 @ Dec 19 2005, 10:56 PM) [snapback]1065192[/snapback]

so no one knows when the movie is coming out in the US then??? i really want to see this movie. I'm such a sucker for these epic asian movies haha

According to movietickets.com, there will be a limited release on 6 January 2006 and nationwide release on 20 January 2006. The date might change.
Luly
i still think the story is not touching enough. & some special effects look laughably fake, it seems like a common problem for all the chinese kung fu blockbusters.

overall it's one of the better chinese movies. oh nic tse is so funny in the movie. biggrin.gif
dontot85
thanx for the info free bird, and nic tse is funny in the movie?? i thought the movie was supposed to be one of those super dramatic/touching movies. Oh well, i'll watch it anyways cuz it looks awesome tongue.gif
ponkie
QUOTE(damn.u @ Dec 20 2005, 06:35 PM) [snapback]1071287[/snapback]

Probably the only reason I'm going to watch this movie is for Nic Tse. He looks damn HOT and IRRISITABLE! The movie Trailer wasn't all that interesting. Cecila looks like a whore, the graphic looks cheap, JDG seems like slave. Just pretty weird... Hopefully it doesn't turn out bad.
-noudles

I thought that was funny, I mean he does play a slave, how else can he seem?


QUOTE(Luly @ Dec 22 2005, 07:55 AM) [snapback]1090027[/snapback]

i still think the story is not touching enough. & some special effects look laughably fake, it seems like a common problem for all the chinese kung fu blockbusters.

overall it's one of the better chinese movies. oh nic tse is so funny in the movie. biggrin.gif

I wouldn't call this a "blockbuster" as of yet, it didn't seem to do that well on its first opening week.
freebird
I've watch the movie. I'm a bit dissapointed with the way the story goes.. coz I imagine something more to be shown and 2 hours seems not enough. I'm a bit confused since some audience laughed in some conversation. I dont understand mandarin, maybe it's the matter. Anyway the cast is worth to watch.. and Kunlun slave is still my fave rolleyes.gif
freebird
Chen Kaige's The Promise Academy Screening Location!
(Posted by Todd at twitchfilm.net)

Chen Kaige's The Promise - coming to these shores as Master of the Crimson Armor - has been generating some majorly negative press in Asia but that hasn't stopped it from setting box office records throughout China. We reported a while back that the film would be receiving a week long Academy-qualifying run in LA at the end of the month and we've jsut gotten word from a reader on where that's happening:

Starting December 30th the film will be at the Laemmle Music Hall 3. LA Twitchers: I expect detailed reports.
jisung
QUOTE(damn.u @ Dec 20 2005, 06:35 PM) [snapback]1071287[/snapback]

Probably the only reason I'm going to watch this movie is for Nic Tse. He looks damn HOT and IRRISITABLE! The movie Trailer wasn't all that interesting. Cecila looks like a whore, the graphic looks cheap, JDG seems like slave. Just pretty weird... Hopefully it doesn't turn out bad.
-noudles

I'll take that as a compliment, damn.u, coz he does play a slave there! That means he totally got into the role, eh, leaving no traces of the dong gun we so admire, right freebird?

QUOTE(camy @ Dec 22 2005, 08:34 PM) [snapback]1095226[/snapback]

I thought that was funny, I mean he does play a slave, how else can he seem?
I wouldn't call this a "blockbuster" as of yet, it didn't seem to do that well on its first opening week.


To be honest, the critics have been so stingy in their praises, some have downright trashed the film which just breaks my heart really, but the box-office has been the exact opposite, it's been merrily ringing since it opened! Still, I remain hopeful about its chances at the Oscars, and even the Globes!
QUOTE(freebird @ Dec 22 2005, 10:17 PM) [snapback]1096268[/snapback]

I've watch the movie. I'm a bit dissapointed with the way the story goes.. coz I imagine something more to be shown and 2 hours seems not enough. I'm a bit confused since some audience laughed in some conversation. I dont understand mandarin, maybe it's the matter. Anyway the cast is worth to watch.. and Kunlun slave is still my fave rolleyes.gif

Yeah, he'll always be my fave slave too, freebird, and I have yet to see the film! tongue.gif Well, I could be his slave too! rolleyes.gif

And freebird, thanks for updating the thread and answering our friends' queries! I do post articles and maybe pics, occasionally, but I seldom read them, am allergic to spoilers! laugh.gif Well, whatever reason people may have in trooping to the theaters, personally am going for Dong Gun and maybe H. Sanada, doesn't really matter, just go! tongue.gif Try to have fun in the process, if not with the movie, then at least ur popcorn! laugh.gif
jisung
Source: http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/349/2005/12/23/44@38355.htm

Visuals in Chen Kaige's Film "The Promise" Stun Movie-goers in Asia

2005-12-23 11:01:42 AP

Chen Kaige's mythological epic The Promise is one of the most visually stunning Chinese movies in recent years, so aesthetically mesmerizing that it overwhelms - and perhaps redeems - a convoluted and at times bizarre plot.

In one scene, a goddess appears sporting a halo-like ring around her upright hairdo and a robe complete with tentacles that wriggle as if she were underwater. A slave runs at the speed of light and walks on water.

Among the amazing sets, a red palace resembles Beijing's Forbidden City - except it is designed as a circular maze. Another scene takes place in a half-sphere-shaped cage in a building with red backlit oval windows. Two characters face off in a room with screens sliding along circular tracks.

Chen's epic is largely the artistic vision of Tim Yip, who won an Oscar for art direction for his work on Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, and the special effects wizardry of Centro Digital Pictures, whose credits include Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill series and Stephen Chow's Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle.

And the breathtaking visuals came at a steep price: the movie cost $35 million US to make.

The Promise marks a strong comeback for Chen, one of China's most respected directors - after the heartwarming but low-key Together and the disappointing English-language erotic thriller Killing Me Softly.

It's already garnered a Golden Globe nomination for best foreign film and will represent China in the same category at the Oscars. The movie set a new opening weekend box office record in China last weekend, grossing 74.52 million yuan ($9.2 million), the official Xinhua news agency reported.

But the sheer artistic brilliance of The Promise is tempered by a long-winded plot.

Cecilia Cheung plays an ordinary girl transformed by a goddess into a princess on one condition - that she will never find true love.

Nicholas Tse portrays a duke who threatens to take the princess by force. A general's slave (Jang Dong-gun) comes to the rescue, and the princess falls in love with her saviour whom she wrongly believes to be the general (Hiroyuki Sanada).

The truth is uncovered and the princess' destiny is lived out as the general, the slave and the duke engage in a battle, eventually killing each other.

Some plot twists don't quite work. When the duke accused the princess of deceiving him as a youth, saying "You destroyed my chance to be a good person," the line was met with incredulous chuckles at one Hong Kong theatre.

The acting has bright spots, but isn't outstanding overall. Sanada - who also appeared in the Tom Cruise movie The Last Samurai - brings out the haughty quality of the general, despite having to deliver lines in Mandarin. South Korean Jang's intense gaze highlights the downtrodden status of the slave he portrays, while Chinese actor Liu Ye gives depth to another slave character.

The multinational cast reflects an increasingly popular strategy to fashion movie productions with a pan-Asian appeal.

Chen's choice of The Promise is also consistent with a recent trend of Chinese directors to shift from depictions of traditional Chinese culture and life under communism to action epics.
freebird
Thanks Jisung smile.gif I hope you can watch it soon.. in big screen..
jisung
QUOTE(freebird @ Dec 23 2005, 05:36 AM) [snapback]1099980[/snapback]

Thanks Jisung smile.gif I hope you can watch it soon.. in big screen..

I hope so too, freebird! smile.gif And MERRY CHRISTMAS to u and everyone who visits this thread! Hey, doesn't it get lonely here, sometimes? U're welcome to join us at dong gun's thread! cool.gif
S!n
Everybody can download The Promise (full version). laugh.gif
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Luly
QUOTE(freebird @ Dec 10 2005, 12:54 PM) [snapback]960972[/snapback]

Teaser poster

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Source: CRIENGLISH


this poster is much better than the official one. the official one.. i feel like JDG is hugging a ghost rather than a beauty. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(camy @ Dec 23 2005, 09:34 AM) [snapback]1095226[/snapback]

I wouldn't call this a "blockbuster" as of yet, it didn't seem to do that well on its first opening week.


i read from papers that it refreshes the chinese box office & becomes the 1st out of all movies, the moment it opens in china.
dreamsicle
Master of the Crimson Armor

I hate whoever did this. Why?!?!? It sounds like the kind of cheesy title that I would make up in 6th grade.
appleworm
I haven't watched it yet.

Is the ending a good one. I am OK with spoilers.
kneekey
i cant wait to watch it..looks really good bec. it was able to break records. and the cast is superb!
freebird
The Promise Suffers from Piracy sad.gif

2005-12-28 09:02:17 CRIENGLISH.com

The most expensive film ever made in China, The Promise, has been hijacked by pirates, who are showing the film on a television station in 16 parts and charging viewers two yuan per show to sneak a peek.

The Promise, directed by Chinese helmer Chen Kaige, who first rose to fame 12 years ago with Farewell My Concubine, cost $35 million to make --not huge by Hollywood's extravagent standards, but very spendy for a Chinese flick.

The film is China's official entry for Best Foreign Language film in the Academy Awards, but has not been very acclaimed by Chinese film critics.

Ref: en.chinabroadcast.cn
ponkie
QUOTE(Luly @ Dec 24 2005, 10:35 AM) [snapback]1111027[/snapback]
i read from papers that it refreshes the chinese box office & becomes the 1st out of all movies, the moment it opens in china.

Yeah, I didn't read the article before my post before saying that.. blush.gif I was referring to the HK opening day.
I didn't enjoy this movie as much, but maybe I just need to understand what they're saying. sweatingbullets.gif
freebird
Weinstein Ends Collaboration on Release of Chinese Movie
By Robert W. Welkos, Times Staff Writer

Former Miramax Co-Chairman Harvey Weinstein, who spent seven months collaborating with the producers of the Chinese fantasy epic "The Promise" on its upcoming North American release, pulled out of the project, according to co-producer Moonstone Entertainment.

The decision by Weinstein Co. to leave director Chen Kaige's project, China's entry in the foreign language film Oscar race, means Moonstone and China Film Group will resume control over the North American, British, Australian and South African distribution rights.

.....(eliminated)

With Weinstein out of the picture, Stroh said his company would push the film, which has been cut from 121 minutes to 102 for U.S. audiences, in a number of Oscar categories. It will begin a one-week run at the Laemmle Fairfax theater Friday for Academy Award consideration.

Ref: http://www,latimes.com
babygurldoc
This just totally sux, that stup!d company, why they have to pull out for. I was waiting so long for this to come out, n now it wont.
Anyone mind telling me where is the Laemmle Fairfax theater location?
Thanx
freebird
QUOTE(babygurldoc @ Dec 29 2005, 03:44 AM) [snapback]1162295[/snapback]

This just totally sux, that stup!d company, why they have to pull out for. I was waiting so long for this to come out, n now it wont.
Anyone mind telling me where is the Laemmle Fairfax theater location?
Thanx

Here it is:
laemmles fairfax 3
7907 beverly blvd
los angeles ca 90048
323 655 4012
corner of beverly and fairfax


one showing daily 11:30 a.m.
friday dec 30 thru thursday jan 5
running time: 1:42
(Thanks to rei from kaijushakedown)

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Excerpted from news at Reuters.com

For the qualifying run, the film's producers are returning to the movie's original title, "The Promise," though they will incorporate "Master of the Crimson Armor" in the film's posters as a subtitle to avoid confusion.
babygurldoc
Thanx so much for giving me the info
Now if only I can get someone to drive me up there to watch it.
Luly
QUOTE(dreamsicle @ Dec 25 2005, 02:17 AM) [snapback]1112002[/snapback]

Master of the Crimson Armor

I hate whoever did this. Why?!?!? It sounds like the kind of cheesy title that I would make up in 6th grade.


ROFL~ totally agree.
i saw the subtitle & was like.. what?! crimson erm.. armour?? blink.gif ... =___=|||

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QUOTE(camy @ Dec 29 2005, 10:48 AM) [snapback]1157245[/snapback]

Yeah, I didn't read the article before my post before saying that.. blush.gif I was referring to the HK opening day.
I didn't enjoy this movie as much, but maybe I just need to understand what they're saying. sweatingbullets.gif


haha... actually i'm also wondering why it's a megahit in china. not as though they dun have movies of the same genre & effects. hmm...
dreamsicle
I don't get why this was such a hit in China either. The other movies of its kind are deeply criticized by Chinese audiences. Maybe the movie-goers are just relieved that this wasn't yet ANOTHER Zhang Yimou-Zhang Ziyi project? I know that is definately one of the reasons I'm actually looking forward to it. Although I totally despise Cecilia Cheung's role. I mean how could they? For the publicity and praises this movie got, I expected that Cheung's role will be different from all of Zhang Ziyi's stereotypical roles that I hate. But they're all of the same fundamental idea - some naive, seductive Chinese girl who will most likely be recognized from sex and nudity scenes.
Volts
anyone got the subs for this?
Luly
QUOTE(dreamsicle @ Dec 30 2005, 02:40 AM) [snapback]1165458[/snapback]

I don't get why this was such a hit in China either. The other movies of its kind are deeply criticized by Chinese audiences. Maybe the movie-goers are just relieved that this wasn't yet ANOTHER Zhang Yimou-Zhang Ziyi project? I know that is definately one of the reasons I'm actually looking forward to it. Although I totally despise Cecilia Cheung's role. I mean how could they? For the publicity and praises this movie got, I expected that Cheung's role will be different from all of Zhang Ziyi's stereotypical roles that I hate. But they're all of the same fundamental idea - some naive, seductive Chinese girl who will most likely be recognized from sex and nudity scenes.


LOL. so it's the anti-zhang yimou sentiments?
dreamsicle
QUOTE(Luly @ Dec 30 2005, 04:28 AM) [snapback]1176764[/snapback]

LOL. so it's the anti-zhang yimou sentiments?

For some I guess. I was joking, but looks like it's true for some number of people. I read the Chinese forum posts and seems like people either favor Chen over Zhang or hate them both. laugh.gif
tracycutie
QUOTE(Volts @ Dec 30 2005, 01:10 PM) [snapback]1173501[/snapback]

anyone got the subs for this?

i'm also lookin for them since i dled the movie in clubbox..
ponkie
There are English subs for the promise DVDrip version, but it's not DVD quality.

I agree with dreamsicle about Cecilia's role. It is definitely generic to ZZY typical roles & I hate those. Reasons why I still can't stand ZZY.
tracycutie
just finished the movie...and i must say the one who really stood out for me was Nicholas Tse...Hiroyuki was good too...
ripgal
i thnk the movie was not as good as i had expected it 2 be. cos it was the most expensive made Asian movie. n i dun c it worth that much!

the good thing about the movie tho, was tha JDG looked hott!! n Hiroyuki was good! funny character.

Nic was okay... he looked gayish.. Ceceilia was not as good as she was in other previous movies. Love 4 both the guys were unclear so story was a bit sucky.. tongue.gif

anywayz.. give a B-
tian
i just want to see this cuz nicholas is in it hahaha
eternityxdream
i agree with u ripgal...it's not that good like i thought it's suppose to be...i dont get how cecilia fall in luv with JDG when she told the general that she luv him only and they slept together too...next thing u kno she went after JDG and hugged him.....nic looks hot in here but at some part he wear too much make up
tracycutie
*spoilerish*

i think Cecilia loved hiroyuki more...when both men were dying, she even chose him when jdg told her to go to him because he's waiting for her...she told him that they should go back to the house they lived together and cried in his arms, he told her to live and move on...jdg wore the cape thingy, told her he'd give her another chance so it seemed like she chose him because he was the one who lived.
freebird
The Promise official website, Korean version: http://www.thepromise2006.co.kr/

Release in S Korea: January 2006
dreamsicle
I just hate Nic's lines in this film. So cheesy. Like something you hear in an idol drama. Although it's nice that I actually understood the movie, I admit that it wasn't deep at all. Even someone with my Chinese skills knows what's going on tongue.gif I still can't get over Cecilia's role. Worse than "Honesty" and that movie was total crap.
freebird
QUOTE(tracycutie @ Jan 1 2006, 01:51 AM) [snapback]1201263[/snapback]

*spoilerish*

i think Cecilia loved hiroyuki more...when both men were dying, she even chose him when jdg told her to go to him because he's waiting for her...she told him that they should go back to the house they lived together and cried in his arms, he told her to live and move on...jdg wore the cape thingy, told her he'd give her another chance so it seemed like she chose him because he was the one who lived.


What I got is, cannot say Qingcheng (Cecilia) loved Guangming (Hiroyuki) more. She wasnt choose him but Kunlun (JDG) asked her to do, as Kunlun still respect to his Master so will make his Master die with peace. That's why Qingcheng said that comfortable words. Of course she did that because Guangming's good to her and loved her anyway, even tried to help them (her and Kunlun) from Wuhuan (Nicholas) unsure.gif .
eternityxdream
it's hard to say who cecilia love hiroyuki or JDG more cuz at first she thought it was hiroyuki that saved her until the very end when she kno it was JDG....i feel bad for JDG he put the cave thing on just to give cecilia another chance to choose....
Jamieâ„¢
this movie was boring and confusing.
there is like no chemistry between cecilia & jdg.. it was so freakin confusing in the end.. because she chose that japanese guy right? but then.. jdg goes back in time.. and they end up together?? wth ..

nick's character seemed gay.. and the way he talked annoyed me..

I liked the background though, theres some very beautiful sceneries.. but thats basically the only thing thats good about this movie.

I can't believe they spent so much on it.. and all the hype that went towards it.. such a big disappointment..

crazyMuka
This movie wasn't as good as I had expected it to be, and I didn't have that high an expectation to begin with. I thought it was a boring film. This kind of story just didn't work for me. I was bored out of my mind 30 minutes into it but still sat to watch it through. The costume, the background were beautiful, but the special effects sucked, which I think is a pity since I heard this movie had a very high budget. The story didn't impress me at all, I was hoping there would be more to it. Turned out, it was simple and very forgettable. Character developments were poor, while the plot was sort of lame. If I could comment the whole movie in one word, I'd say... it's tasteless. Perhaps I felt like that because I watched this right after The Phantom of the Opera which was great imo, but still, I don't think it's worth all the money and talents that were spent on it.
jisung
By Kim Tae-jong
Staff Reporter[/i]

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Jang Dong-gun, right, and Cecilia Cheung in a scene from "The Promise

Renowned Chinese director Chen Kaige emphasizes that his new epic fantasy ``The Promise¡¯¡¯ is an ``Asian¡¯¡¯ film showing the power of Asian culture to the world.

``The real meaning of being an Asian director is we can put the power of culture from all Asian countries together and show everything people can possibly imagine,¡¯¡¯ Chen said Thursday during a news conference at Shilla Hotel in Seoul.

The director, well known for his 1993 film ``Farewell My Concubine,¡¯¡¯ also explained that the film is not just a commercial film but contains deep and profound Asian values on life.

``It shows our attitude, from the Asian point of view, toward life _ magnificent but short. And what I also wanted to talk about is the freedom of heart,¡¯¡¯ Chen said.

The film revolves around a beautiful girl destined to lose her lovers in exchange for wealth and fame, and three men falling in love with her. The characters fight for love and against their pre-determined fates.

Although the story takes place in fantasy settings, the film endears so many Chinese as they can sympathize with characters in the film, who are locked off by their desire, ambition and hatred, the director added.

The epic film is the China's most expensive movie with the production budget of $35 million and stars from three different Asian countries, but the director said he had to face budget restrictions especially with graphics.

``To be honest, our budget was too limited to have the state of the art Western computer graphics. As I am a still student in computer graphics, I think I could do a better job in my next films if it is needed,¡¯¡¯ Chen said.

The conference was also attended by the film¡¯s main actors Jang Dong-gun of Korea, Hiroyuki Sanada of Japan and Cecilia Cheung of Hong Kong, and they said they found the acting a unique and valuable experience as they have more and more opportunities to star in co-production films with directors and actors from different Asian countries.

Jang, who plays Kunlun, a slave with a magical power of agility, in the film worked with a Japanese actor in his 2003 action film ``2009 Lost Memories¡¯¡¯ and Cheung appeared in the local film ``Failan¡¯¡¯ in 2001.

``Of course, it was tough and challenging to use the Chinese language at first,¡¯¡¯ Jang said, ``I was nervous before shooting, but I got used to it and forgot that I was using Chinese after I realized that acting is something done by your heart.¡¯¡¯

``The Promise,¡¯¡¯ which will be released here Jan. 26, is a newly edited version, different from the 121-minute original shown in China. The original was edited because the filmmaker decided to make the film simpler for international audiences and to counter the piracy movie files already circulating the Internet.

e3dward@koreatimes.co.kr
01-20-2006 17:37



The Promise Press Conf. in Korea, 1/19/2006


Source: daum.net and naver.com


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credit: dreamer, Just Jang Dong Gun

Source: http://kr.news.yahoo.com, photoro.com and star news


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PSIFF Report: The Promise (Wu Ji) Review

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Gloriously committed to a fantastical yet strangely traditional world of honor, romance, and treachery, Chen Kaige delivers a colorful, rousing, absurdly serious romp.

Stunning on the biggest screen of the Camelot Theatres complex in Palm Springs, it's easy to imagine that THE PROMISE will be much less impressive in smaller venues. Despite inevitable comparisons with Ang Lee's CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON and Zhang Yimou's HERO and HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS, Chen forges his own path through the CGI forest. From its opening moments, THE PROMISE enthusiastically fornicates with computer imagery, displaying a reckless lust for fairy tale settings and magical creatures.

Newly shorn of its unwieldy -- though not as silly as it first sounded -- original English title (MASTER OF THE CRIMSON ARMOR refers to a military title for the leader of one of the two warring armies in the film), THE PROMISE deserves attention for the over the top production design of Tim Yip, who creates luscious settings that integrate wacked-out computer game imagery. Peter Pau's usually fine cinematography tends to get lost in the digitized worlds that appear to predominate.

As for the plot, well, it's not the factor that will drive repeat business (we'll get to that in a moment). The story tends to get lost in the blizzard of effects, and I couldn't tell you the particulars even if I tried to jot down notes in the dark of the theater.

The romantic triangle is unconvincing; the acting is on par with Chen's embarrassing English-language feature KILLING ME SOFTLY. Cecilia Cheung bothers some people, but I love the throaty, head-cold timber of her speaking voice, which has apparently been dubbed here. Nicolas Tse is as petulant as ever as a spoiled rich boy. No one else in the cast, including the other two male leads, really stood out.

What should drive you to any cinema that plays this soaring, somewhat silly adventure is the insanity of the vision. When you see thousands of clumsily computer-drawn bulls and soldiers thundering through a canyon, and then watch our hero, a hitherto lowly slave, hopping and flying through the air dragging his master along, you will know you are in the presence of a genius. When your eyes bug out of your head from the blues and reds and blues and golden yellows that are splashed across every scene, and when you see how the romantic triangle is resolved in a glorious, madcap fight, played entirely straight, you will be glad you plunked down your money to see this wonder on the biggest screen possible.

The Weinstein Co. gave up on this one and returned their theatrical rights to the producers of the film, but we fervently wish that it will receive at least a limited run in as many cities as possible. If a DVD becomes available, sure, buy it, but treat yourself and don't watch it until you've seen it where it belongs.


Posted by Peter Martin on January 20, 2006 03:53 PM
Source: http://www.twitchfilm.net/archives/004869.html
HappyGirl
I don't understand what Cecilia is thinking these days. How can she appear at the Korean release of the film dressing like an old granny and those shocking socks??? crazy.gif She needs to change stylist and gain some weight. she looks like a stick.
minami
QUOTE(freebird @ Dec 23 2005, 11:17 AM) [snapback]1096268[/snapback]

I've watch the movie. I'm a bit dissapointed with the way the story goes.. coz I imagine something more to be shown and 2 hours seems not enough. I'm a bit confused since some audience laughed in some conversation. I dont understand mandarin, maybe it's the matter. Anyway the cast is worth to watch.. and Kunlun slave is still my fave rolleyes.gif


Hi Freebird, I've seen the movie too....way before reading all the horrid reviews and *cringes uncomfortably*...it is a bad film. The audience I was watching it with laughed at all the supposedly 'touching' scenes. wacko.gif Sorry, Dong Gun ssi....if you weren't starring in this piece of uh....fluff, I wouldn't have bothered seeing it in the cinema. vicx.gif

QUOTE(dreamsicle @ Dec 25 2005, 02:17 AM) [snapback]1112002[/snapback]

Master of the Crimson Armor

I hate whoever did this. Why?!?!? It sounds like the kind of cheesy title that I would make up in 6th grade.


It is cheesy. But after seeing the film, I think Master of the Crimson Armour actually suits the feel of this outlandish film more than the serious and pretentious sounding The Promise. The promise of what?!? Profound movie this one is not...

QUOTE(camy @ Dec 31 2005, 11:29 AM) [snapback]1185777[/snapback]

There are English subs for the promise DVDrip version, but it's not DVD quality.

I agree with dreamsicle about Cecilia's role. It is definitely generic to ZZY typical roles & I hate those. Reasons why I still can't stand ZZY.


In Cecilia's defense, I think she did her best to portray Quin Cheng. At least she gave a believable portrayal of Quin Cheng's confusion and affection for the two men. ZZY would've made the character feel more seductive and snotty, imo. rolleyes.gif The male cast also made the most out of their characters. God knows they were not helped by the shallow and half-baked script.

I enjoyed Nick Tse's campy Duke with his accessories....lol, that was the only genuine spark of madcap originality in the film. Hiroyuki Sanada acted suitably over the top as the General and I was amazed by his fluidity in Mandarin. Jang Dong Gun brought out the pure hearted and innocent Kunlun well. His big expressive eyes were made to use effectively in this movie. Unfortunately, even with all their individual acting talents brought together, the movie still reeks. The story was overly long, meandering and pointless. The promotional department should stop bringing up Farewell My Concubine when mentioning The Promise because Farewell My Concubine was a far, far, far more superior and well-made film.


QUOTE(ripgal @ Jan 1 2006, 12:42 AM) [snapback]1192330[/snapback]

i thnk the movie was not as good as i had expected it 2 be. cos it was the most expensive made Asian movie. n i dun c it worth that much!

the good thing about the movie tho, was tha JDG looked hott!! n Hiroyuki was good! funny character.

Nic was okay... he looked gayish.. Ceceilia was not as good as she was in other previous movies. Love 4 both the guys were unclear so story was a bit sucky.. tongue.gif

anywayz.. give a B-


I give it a C (would've been a D had it not been the gorgeous sets and costumes). Even the musical score sounded generic and forgettable. It is any surprise that it didn't win the Golden Globes? I'd have been shocked if it did win. LOL. They can forget about the Oscars already. wink.gif

QUOTE(dreamsicle @ Jan 2 2006, 09:34 AM) [snapback]1208422[/snapback]

I just hate Nic's lines in this film. So cheesy. Like something you hear in an idol drama. Although it's nice that I actually understood the movie, I admit that it wasn't deep at all. Even someone with my Chinese skills knows what's going on tongue.gif I still can't get over Cecilia's role. Worse than "Honesty" and that movie was total crap.


Well, I wouldn't call it total crap. The movie does have some redeeming qualites (as mentioned, the lavish sets, beautiful costumes, cinematography) and if you're a fan of any of the leading actors, it's worth a watch. Though I'd recommend you to save your money and rent the DVD when it comes out.
Yueny
just saw it. No, it wasnt the worst film i've ever had the displeasure of wasting my two hours on, but dangerously close. i dont know what chen kaige was thinking, i mean he's always been somewhat of a overly-melodramatic filmmaker, but this film just went so far over the edge that it was utterly disgusting to watch! several times during the film, i felt this strong urge to put my remote control through the television screen. my question is: who wrote the dialogue? who approved this disaterous screenplay? they need to be banned from working in the film industry, forever.
i dont understand how these big names agreed to such a project, were they doped out of their mind when they signed the contract? laugh.gif
oh, and the soundtrack was so freakin overblown, it was embarassing and cringeworthy. frankly, i cant even understand how the film got nominated for a golden globe in the first place, maybe the commitee was doped out of their minds as well, because the film certainly wasnt nominated based on its own merits alone. thankgod they didnt win, it would have been a disgrace to chinese culture. if the government should bann anything, they should bann the exportation of crap like this.
honey_ping
Frankly, not impressing though Nicholas Tse looked the hottest among the rest of the casting crew ............................. I don't like the special effect, they looked so fake I nearly vomitted blood. I don't know whether the japanese guy or JDG was the lead role in this movie and lastly, I hated Cecelia Cheung after watching this and don't think I'll ever see her movie ever again [let me see......I don't actually watch her in any of her movie and I started with this?????................my goodness, she's suck]. ANyway, the scenaries were beautiful though......
evekisara
there are subs out for the dvd version? Where would i be able to find those? I can't find them T_T;;

Can anyone please upload them? thanks ^^

This sounds interesting - I'll be watching it soon... too bad most of you didn't think it was that great :/
dreamz
I must said I'm really disappointed in this movie. But oh man.. Nic was so freakin hot in it that make up for everything. LOL although his character is so gay but he acted it so well. Better give him credit for that!
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