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clicheterms
QUOTE (13!SuJuAmor @ Apr 9 2008, 07:26 PM) *
Out of all the members of SJ M, Zhoumi is the only one I don't like. Although most people see this and immediately assume I'm bashing ZM, that is not true. There is a difference between not liking someone and actively disliking. I'm indifferent towards him. I've decided to reserve judgment since I'm not impressed with what he has shown so far, but he might have some awesome points we are unaware of at the moment. As for the crying, he had to know what he was going to face once it was announced that he would be part of SJ M, a group that has been receiving negative comments since they were announced. Having said that, I know that as people, it is sometimes hard to control our emotions, whether in public or private, so he should not be bashed for being vulnerable. However, if his crying becomes a regular occurrence, I can see how some people will take that as being 'fake'.
As far as the banners are concerned, I think that the whole point of being allowed banners to begin with, was to display our individualism and preferences. Therefore, people's banners will reflect what they believe in and care about, that's why there are banners supporting SJ M & banners supporting Only13. If I have a group, whether it be this one or any other, and only like three members out of five, I will have a banner with those three members, simple as that. It is unreasonable to want to force people to like all members. Even in Super Junior, there are fans who claim they only like one or three members, yet they are still allowed to post in forums.
This is to everyone, not just you. I cannot bring myself to hate people who are working hard to achieve their dreams, that is why I accept SJ M, but I cannot be forced to immediately love people I don't know. Getting to know the boys, seeing their personalities and their interaction with each other is what made me love SJ rather than just like their music. So I don't think it's unreasonable for me to take my time and decide for my own whether I like the new members. Not liking them does not make me a horrible person or a bad fan. I think Henry is the most adorable thing walking and crazy awesome with the violin. These are opinions I can reach on my own, thank you. I don't need anyone shoving them down my throat.

re: zhoumi. you are very right, and i agree w. you completely. however, i was addressing the fact that people still haven't had the chance to get to know him and yet immediately judge him. i'm not making anyone love him - in fact, i'm not all that attached to him either. but it's unwarranted comments that call him conceived and give him no chances to prove otherwise that bother me. it's a perfectly reasonable conclusion if he's already cried several times in the few days sjm has debuted but that's not the case, and, until then, there's no reason for people to call him "fake", especially if his time in the spotlight so far is a cumulative 15 minutes.
and the banners i was referring to are the ones that proclaim "the way sjm should be". it's not that way; deal w. it. i'm not saying they shouldn't have the banners, either. i was wondering why they would still be around here if they have a problem w. the way the group is. i didn't ask them to leave.

QUOTE (miss scarlett @ Apr 9 2008, 07:27 PM) *
About Henry, he is officially considered as Cantonese because his dad is Cantonese, from Hong Kong. His mom is from Taiwan. I do not think his mom is a native Taiwanese though. Since his mom speaks Mandarin, it is not a surprise that he understands more Mandarin than Cantonese, since mixed-language families usually blend more to the mother's side.
From what it seems to me Henry understands Mandarin quite well, it's just that he is still unable to speak it fluently.

have we heard henry speak cantonese yet? his mandarin sounds very local taiwanese, but i've yet to hear him speak canto to gauge his knowledge.

<3 tiffo
lovecubedlee
does anyone know when they'll have a performance in china/taiwan!? id like to see them livee
Lishathestain
haa..i've been wanting to post here but idek..everytime i was about to post something there's always this little arguments going on sweatingbullets.gif
but anyways i just want to say that thanks to all the ZM erm..drama, he became my #2 fav after Donghae lol. and yes, it's really tiring to be him i guess..when he talks much, people would think he's an attention hogger (while in fact he is trained to be an mc and is one member other than hankyung that actually fluent in the language). when he shows a bit of his sensitive side, people still think he's an attention hogger. but if he keeps silent in the background, people would think he's not that outgoing or that he is simply a cold person *sigh* on a lighter note, i also love ZM's side profile tongue.gif
oh and i'm also glad that more people are loving the guuhh.. so adorable!Henry biggrin.gif it's about time!

about the banners..i do understand that no one can force someone else to like all 7 members and to put all 7 members in the pict, but i think more than the cutting ZM and Henry out, it's more about the words written there. I have my favs too from certain groups and I would make banners just w/ those favs, but I would never put something like "Jessica, Taeyeon and Yuri: how SNSD should be" or wtvr. and yeah, that kinda hurts here *points at heart* lmao.

_____

oh please do so biggrin.gif
v

thisgardenoncewas*perfect
just wanted to post with the SJM member's threads... stop by ^^

I was just skimming back a few pages, and clicked who i was, but I didn't see Siwon's or Henry's?

I know Henry has a thread, maybe I just didn't go back enough or maybe I didn't see it ;___;


And I'm pretty sure Zhou-Mi doesn't have one yet. I can fix that 8D!

Anyways:

Hankyung韩庚(sj's Member) Pics

Choi Si Won Young Kang Bong Man From 18 V 29 (Siwon Thread)
^thanks cHiKaRu

[official] Lee Donghae Picture Thread, Post Your Lee Donghae Pictures Here =)

★ [official] Kim Ryeowook (김려욱) ☆, Super Junior's Eternal Magnae ♡

Cho Kyuhyun Picture Thread~ ♫, ♡ the cutest magnae from superjunior

Henry Lau ---- Violin Boy's Official Thread
^thanks strawberry87


:::::♡

I think I will start the Zhou-Mi thread, unless anyone has any objection/would like to do it themselves (:

if you have Zhou-Mi pictures, then please PM them to me. ♡
Storytime
I'm kind of slow but I just heard SJM's version of 至少还有你. I'm totally in love with that song. I can't stop replaying it and I don't usually listen to Chinese music.
lovecubedlee
QUOTE (thisgardenoncewas*perfect @ Apr 9 2008, 07:51 PM) *
I think I will start the Zhou-Mi thread, unless anyone has any objection/would like to do it themselves (:


^^ thank you, i think that will be a great idea. if more people are exposed to ZM, they'll understand him more and appreciate/maybe accept him.
JJ.exot5ia
QUOTE (uyuki @ Apr 9 2008, 08:41 PM) *
I like your banner I taking it. ^^ Super Junior M Fighting!

DO NOT QUOTE PICTURES! i see this is your new post, try to start
off with a nice start


QUOTE (nhbsakakude @ Apr 9 2008, 05:34 AM) *
You know i'll be honest and say that before this,all ur posts kinda make me a bit angry/sad
but this is the first time I really love u for saying this.. XDXD

yup yup~ haha i'll think outside of the box!

QUOTE (chickenwing @ Apr 9 2008, 11:13 AM) *
THEY CHANGE THEIR HANDS UP.. THEY USE 3 FINGERS NOW..

i like it this way too! differentiate!

QUOTE (jessicman @ Apr 9 2008, 11:26 AM) *
[img]http://photo1.9you.com/pic/userphoto/75/84/2037037584/fhwm1207751928.jpg

DONGHAE IS L O V E

QUOTE (16candl3s @ Apr 9 2008, 12:06 PM) *
[img]http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/pr3tchie/SJ-M/2008-4-9_18_23_19.jpg
[img]http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/pr3tchie/SJ-M/2008-4-9_18_23_15.jpg

wahh~ great with their fellow dongseng! li yin <3
they must be happy to see some familiar faces!

QUOTE (jessicman @ Apr 9 2008, 12:37 PM) *
0408 SOHU <Star Online>(I am not sure for this name) interview
part1:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/dbtCswFfgsA/
part2:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-ntCvlxbuk0/
part3:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/LPjVxa94AYc/
another video by fans in 0408 音乐风云榜:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_ck00XMjM2MjQ4MzY=.html

i'll edit this when i finish watching <3

edit:

and yeah~ about zhoumi i figured what everyone else said
is the right thing. he's trained to be an MC, an entertainer
and even with his looks you can tell that he's the talkative
type. plus, someone other than geng needs to talk right? but
a lot of the fans are taking it in with a bad perspective. Although
i myself do think that zhoumi is a bit arrogant somewhat.
i can understand how hard it is for him, well not literally since
i'm not him but still.

-Rebecca
BlaisePaige
I've been stalking your thread for a few days now. I was never into Super Junior hence, I'll be coming in from the cold. I'm familiar with some members like Hankyung. I first saw him on a video at YouTube where he had a solo stage in a Chinese variety show dancing to a Michael Jackson inspired number. It was so impressive that I had to goggle him!

I came across Kyuhyun after watching his duet of 'A Whole New World' with Charice. Another impressive performance that I had to goggle him, too! Henry, I came across him when my Canadian friend pointed his violin performance video to me. Now, that was impressive! Yeah, I goggled him, too!

From what I have seen, I'm very optimistic of this new group. I'm not familiar with the other members as much as I want to be but from what I have seen from these three-I can tell that the members all have their specialty and were carefully chosen to perform a particular role in the group.

There are other fans like me. Fans who are not familiar with Super Junior in general and Super Junior M in particular whose interest were piqued primarily by the composition of talents in this new group.

Hopefully, fans will finally be united behind this new group but if that seem to be impossible because of the prevailing mindset be rest assured that new fans will be coming in from the cold. =)

cHiKaRu
QUOTE (thisgardenoncewas*perfect @ Apr 10 2008, 02:51 AM) *
just wanted to post with the SJM member's threads... stop by ^^

I was just skimming back a few pages, and clicked who i was, but I didn't see Siwon's or Henry's?

i know there's a Henry thread somewhere but i don't have link since i'm not keeping track of that

but there's a Siwon thread it's actually his acting thread but can post solo pictures of him there too

Choi Siwon acting thread <3
tml-101
QUOTE (jessicman @ Apr 9 2008, 12:37 PM) *
0408 SOHU <Star Online>(I am not sure for this name) interview

part1:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/dbtCswFfgsA/
part2:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-ntCvlxbuk0/
part3:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/LPjVxa94AYc/


thanks for your links ^^
i loved watching this interview.. it was much funnier and way more entertaining..
donghae and ryeowook was so cute ^^... and hanggeng <3

lol i have a question about one part of the interview though..
you're going to have to excuse me cuase my mandarin isn't very good..
but when they were told to draw sumthing that repsented beijing... what did henry draw? i think the mc dude said it.. but i didn't really catch it...

btw... i can't believe how fast the thread is going.. lol
ee-bbeun-ee
wahh..i really like their song 'the one' and 至少还有你
they sound great^^ ahaha....and they are soo cute
during the sohu interview. donghae always seems
to put a smile on my face. and henry is just soo
adorable too^^. lol. SJ-M FIGHTING^^
situponatree*
well, I hope sjm do really well in china. actually, I'm sure they well.
and I loove their choreo for u, it's hot.

so about zhoumi, at first, I thought he was alright. cause he was cute.
and then I heard his rap, and I was pretty impressed. but then..that
interview @___@ it was awkward to cry o___O really really awkward.
the MCs must have felt soo uncomfortable. anyway, so I don't know
what to think about him. I dont like him but I dont hate him. kind of
indifferent. I think I'll have to get used to him more.

I think the reason why a lot of people dont like zhoumi is because he's
kind of like..completely new to us. we've seen henry and obviously, we know
and love the other five very well. so it's hard to accept zhoumi. but I'm
sure he'll gain more fans in due time.

and man, I'm slow. I still havent heard their olympics song.
Selina Ren
can't wait to see them
henry looks sooo cute~^____^
Vattenboll
QUOTE (clicheterms @ Apr 10 2008, 01:52 AM) *
and let me say something mean and ask why all the hxc only13 fans w. their ridiculously disrespectful banners are still hanging around here.


Before you say anything about other fans, I think you should think about what you yourself are saying first as well. When you're putting it like that, does it really make you any better than those Only13 fans? I don't mean this to ONLY you, but to everyone who keep calling other fans by names or say mean stuff about each others' opinions.

Someone said some pages back - "Don't like all 7 members, then don't post."

What kind of attitude is that? This is a thread for everyone. And writing stuff like that really doesn't make you any better than the Only13 supporters.

Some Only13 supporters can be mean and have a bad attitude, yes. But please think about how you yourself are behaving first before saying stuff about them. If you think they're mean, disrespectful, immature etc, then don't lower yourself to their level you too. Show that you're more mature than them instead.

All I want to say is that calling each others by names really doesn't make one seem any better, this goes for BOTH Only13 supporters and SJ-M supporters. If you really feel like you have to pick on the Only13 supporters, then do it with a friend via PM or msn. Or if you feel like you hate the SJ-M supporters so much, then tell that to a friend via PM or msn. I just want to keep this thread clean.

There are actually some fans who are Only13 supporters but that are still supporting SJ-M as well, or some Only13 fans come here to get information about the 5 original members, and since this is a thread for everyone, I want them to feel welcomed here too. So please respect that.


I'm sorry if it feels like I'm bringing this whole thing up again, but I hope someone gets my point..
yunchikan
omggg XD
im listening to their
至少还有你 and The One
songs..

wow. i love them so much O_O
i really like 至少还有你 myself.. it sounds sooooo freaking good..
man.. when is their cd coming out X_X;;

henry sounds so cuteee
and dang.. hangeng sounds so good!! XDDDDDD



and 13!SuJuAmor:: i dont know why but i still cant find reasons for me to like zhou mi..
like.. i like his singing and his voice and stuff. but theres something about him that i feel like i cant accept him yet =//
but like henry.. at first i didnt like him when he first came out in the don't don mv.. but later on i started to really really really like him..

[OMG. I JUST GOT TO HANGENG'S SOLO in the bridge IN THE ONE. AND IT SOUNDS SO FREAKING GOOD XDDDDD and zhou mi sounds really good too >3<]

.. dang.. how can ryeowook sound so freaking good >3< xDDD
but yeah.. i love henry now. but i think i still need time to accept zhou mi. i mean i dont hate him. in fact, i like him, but thats only because of his singing. other than that im still not impressed.. i still havnt see the reason why i shuold like him. u know? xD i dont know how to explain it. but im not saying zhoumi should leave sj-m or anything. i just hope in the future, he can make me like him more =] XD
CherryBlossom81
Hi Shenlu smile.gif

I understand what you are saying also. Thank you for being understanding of what I was saying.

It's all good! tongue.gif

And let me say Henry is sooooo adorable! biggrin.gif

But man, did Siwon look very sexy in the MV, when the girl walked by and he grabbed her. His look was like "I want you!"

Oh and wanted to add that let us not forget that Donghae and Ryeowook are emotional people also.
strawberry78
QUOTE (thisgardenoncewas*perfect @ Apr 9 2008, 08:51 PM) *
just wanted to post with the SJM member's threads... stop by ^^

I was just skimming back a few pages, and clicked who i was, but I didn't see Siwon's or Henry's?

I know Henry has a thread, maybe I just didn't go back enough or maybe I didn't see it ;___;

And I'm pretty sure Zhou-Mi doesn't have one yet. I can fix that 8D!

:::::♡

I think I will start the Zhou-Mi thread, unless anyone has any objection/would like to do it themselves (:

if you have Zhou-Mi pictures, then please PM them to me. ♡


Henry's thread <3

Yeah I've had it bookmarked in my favorites lol. ^^

I have no objection to a Zhoumi thread, I think it'd be nice if you started one smile.gif
CherryBlossom81
Vattenboll, the problem is not that only 13 fans cannot post in here, but it is what they post in here that is offensive.

Oh and agree with the name calling because I did it earlier in a post and my fellow SUJU fans called me out on it and they were right! smile.gif
i KITTY x3 =)*
where's the video of zm crying? o_o;
this thread moves so fast i can't keep up T__T lol
forgiventempo
exotsiax13: I'm just saying that there are subs for SJM available in the future. Of course you can also sub.

News article. smile.gif Please no bashing on the article.


SJ-M debuts in the midst of oppositon, Han Geng responds



April 8th, SJ-M's members were officially chosen; this also includes the original Super Junior members: Han Geng, Siwon, Kyuhyun, Donghae, Ryeowook, there's also two new Chinese members --- Henry and Zhou Mi. At the Music Feng Yun Rank news center, Han Geng introduced the new members. One member is from Wu Han, singer Zhou Mi and the other from Canada but now coming back to his home country, Henry. April 8th was SJ-M's debut and also first time performing in China so it has caught a lot of attention.

But ever since SM Entertainment said to have a SJ-M group and adding new members, there were a lot of opposition from the fas. From BeiFang Online's netizens, a lot have commented that they don't wish to have new members, but of course they are fans who welcome SJ-M to China and wrote "Anticipating you all to perform with flying colors! SJ-M jiayou!".

Because of this situation, Han Geng yesterday made a response: "About the creation of SJ-M, there are people who oppose and there are people who support. What we have to do is to continue to work hard. We prepared this for a long time and will give our best to everyone. At the same time, we also need everyone's support and care. When I was in Korea, I was cared by a lot of the other Super Junior members, we're like family. Now, I'm taking 6 friends back home, I'm really happy and I hope we can get everyone's support." SJ-M's Korean members all used simple Chinese phrases to say hi to everyone. From here you can see SJ-M has preparation for the Chinese market.

But the fans opposition still has not rested. Whether or not SJ-M will create something big like Super Junior, only time will tell.

Credits: BeiFang Online, Lucy@FLAWLESS for translations
yunchikan
^ thanks for the pics =]]

i have a quick question tho..

who sings first in their song 至少还有你 ??
is it henry?
cuz it doesnt sound like zhou mi to me. and other 5 members lol.
i just want to make sure cuz.
i looooooove the first solo XDDD <3


--edit--
this song doesnt sound original to me tho. lol it sounds really really really familiar to me. especially the chorus. XD

okay nvm xDDD i found out the original singer XD
eternity*kiss
QUOTE (thisgardenoncewas*perfect @ Apr 10 2008, 08:51 AM) *
I know Henry has a thread, maybe I just didn't go back enough or maybe I didn't see it ;___;
And I'm pretty sure Zhou-Mi doesn't have one yet. I can fix that 8D!
I think I will start the Zhou-Mi thread, unless anyone has any objection/would like to do it themselves (:
if you have Zhou-Mi pictures, then please PM them to me. ♡


Thank you so much for taking the initiative. It would definitely be great if we get to know Zhoumi little by little. 'Cause it seems the info about him is starting from zero/none.. I don't even know his last name.. I tried to google the correct combination of keywords - Zhoumi, SM Entertainment, Super Junior M, China but there's nothing about him.. So this new thread about Zhoumi would be really really great.

QUOTE (BlaisePaige @ Apr 10 2008, 09:03 AM) *
From what I have seen, I'm very optimistic of this new group. I'm not familiar with the other members as much as I want to be but from what I have seen from these three-I can tell that the members all have their specialty and were carefully chosen to perform a particular role in the group.

There are other fans like me. Fans who are not familiar with Super Junior in general and Super Junior M in particular whose interest were piqued primarily by the composition of talents in this new group.

Hopefully, fans will finally be united behind this new group but if that seem to be impossible because of the prevailing mindset be rest assured that new fans will be coming in from the cold. =)


your post reminded me of something in the Iple website about their profiles... aside from the regular singer/dancer/acting interests of the SUJU-M members, Ryeowook's profile actually said "Composition" while Zhoumi's said "Lyric Making". Hmm, i wonder if we'll be seeing a lot more self-composed songs in SUJU-M ... well, that is if SM Ent will give them the freedom to do just that.
e ; c h o .
QUOTE (miss scarlett @ Apr 9 2008, 07:27 PM) *
About Henry, he is officially considered as Cantonese because his dad is Cantonese, from Hong Kong. His mom is from Taiwan. I do not think his mom is a native Taiwanese though. Since his mom speaks Mandarin, it is not a surprise that he understands more Mandarin than Cantonese, since mixed-language families usually blend more to the mother's side.

From what it seems to me Henry understands Mandarin quite well, it's just that he is still unable to speak it fluently.


He's Canto?
During the interview he seemed like he understood a lot lol.
I want to hear him speak Canto. smile.gif
Lishathestain
^
^
thanks for the pics and trans smile.gif i especially love how Hankyung said he's "taking 6 friends back home". it makes me feel all warm inside guuh! it just shows how much excited he is about this group and performing in his home country.
shiwon's stare killed me dead..hahaha! and random but ZM has really nice fingers tongue.gif

mikamoui
QUOTE (forgiventempo @ Apr 9 2008, 08:35 PM) *
exotsiax13: I'm just saying that there are subs for SJM available in the future. Of course you can also sub.

News article. smile.gif Please no bashing on the article.


April 8th, SJ-M's members were officially chosen; this also includes the original Super Junior members: Han Geng, Siwon, Kyuhyun, Donghae, Ryeowook, there's also two new Chinese members --- Henry and Zhou Mi. At the Music Feng Yun Rank news center, Han Geng introduced the new members. One member is from Wu Han, singer Zhou Mi and the other from Canada but now coming back to his home country, Henry. April 8th was SJ-M's debut and also first time performing in China so it has caught a lot of attention.



Credits: BeiFang Online, Lucy@FLAWLESS for translations


i wonder why it says former super junior members o-o

VV ooh i see, i was worried for a while XD. I'm wondering if they're just going to remake suju songs into a Chinese Version o_o.
xi_luv_u
QUOTE (i KITTY x3 =)* @ Apr 9 2008, 06:33 PM) *
where's the video of zm crying? o_o;
this thread moves so fast i can't keep up T__T lol


part1:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/dbtCswFfgsA/
part2:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-ntCvlxbuk0/
part3:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/LPjVxa94AYc/

pg 79

donghae is freakin cute. haha.
i love how he cut the girl off and said i wont listen.
too cute.

eternity*kiss
QUOTE (mikamoui @ Apr 10 2008, 09:49 AM) *
i wonder why it says former super junior members o-o


blame it on the "lost in translation" trend.
forgiventempo
QUOTE (mikamoui @ Apr 9 2008, 08:49 PM) *
i wonder why it says former super junior members o-o


Meh, sorry bad translation. I'll change it. I meant original.
asdfxkathy
YT link to a much much much better fancam.
<3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XixrlGuVAdY
Strawberry`
OMC oMC
I'm so excited for this

I was more thinking of
DognHae, KiBum, Sungmin, and some others who sang in H.I.T
were going to form a sub group. But glad this one
HENRY IS IN IT =]
*jumps up and down*
zkunninglookz
QUOTE (ee-bbeun-ee @ Apr 9 2008, 09:24 PM) *
wahh..i really like their song 'the one' and 至少还有你
they sound great^^ ahaha....and they are soo cute
during the sohu interview. donghae always seems
to put a smile on my face. and henry is just soo
adorable too^^. lol. SJ-M FIGHTING^^

...where can i listen to those songs?!..all i've heard is their U cover..=/

edit:..omg..sorry for topping a page with nothing important..but there's +20 pages of opinions already and mine is probably similar to someone else's..XD
I'll just take this chance to tell everyone to BE FRIENDLY! and ignore trolls as some people like to call them (people who are mean).

edit2:Thank you so much astrid!...and thanks forgiventempo for posting the link to their subbed vids on youtube

.i didn't much like "the one"..actually..more like i'm indifferent towards the song..not bad, not good..
.the 2nd song(At Least I Still Have You) sounds great.the melody is good, the vocals are good...nothing bad about it smile.gif
i still can't recognize everyone's voices yet except for ryewook so i can't break down my opinions..XD
plurals
QUOTE (marmar @ Apr 10 2008, 01:48 AM) *
how does it not make sense? I'm not saying I'm gonna forget SJ cause why should I. I love Super Junior but the way some Elves are acting then I find myself enjoying SJM more in other words "lean more on SJM". & I know it has nothing to do with the Super Junior members. If you read what I said clearly I was talking about SOME ELF/Elves in other words SOME Super Junior fans attitude towards SJM makes me "lean more on" them.

Yes, it's my choice smile.gif

sorry if I seem rude.

nope not rude at all smile.gif
'not make much sense' as in the other suju members not having much to do with the whole thing. but i might have misunderstood you. or you me. or maybe we're not on the same wavelength logic/sense wise. but that's completely fine by the way right?

but yeah everyone has their own choice. i just wish people (in general, not you marmar smile.gif) would stop being so easily offended at every different choices other people make or opnion other people have. take a moment and chill. but i might be asking too much.

i think in my complete noob-ness i might have underestimate the extent of the riff splitting this fandom apart (especially those who has been in it for a while). it's quite sad looking in and i wish i could go back to being just a casual fan completely ignorant of the whole drama (to which i'm now contributing sweatingbullets.gif ) and not be so overly-invested in this group of people (by that i mean the boys and the fans. dont know exactly why in hell i'd care but i do T-T). in any case, i love them now and i hope sjm would do well. i'm hoping the 2 new additions show enough likability and talent that can win people over and maybe the split could be mended. LOLnaive i know.

ZM probably needs more time. a good or talented person if given enough chance, the good and talent would shine through no? yes? yes! here's hoping he has both.

hoola-hoop circular hip motion thing is still funny!
astrid
QUOTE (zkunninglookz @ Apr 9 2008, 07:04 PM) *
...where can i listen to those songs?!..all i've heard is their U cover..=/


Here you go:

recorded from when they did the radio interview

The One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsPUDVCQSHI

Zhi Shao Hai You Ni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msb68LZOWPI

Credit: Symbelmyn @ yt (Thank you biggrin.gif)
orange08
QUOTE (chrissatinee @ Apr 9 2008, 02:31 PM) *
SJM just has two new members, and I think Henry will be the popular one. I understand why he's more likable that Ju Myuk. I guess cause when he appeared in Don't Don, he showed everyone his talent and people like him. And as of now, I think most people accepted him in SJM already. But as for Ju Myuk, I still feel he has ALOT of negative comments out there. But SJ is a popular group, and since SJM is official, I think eventually people will start to like Ju Myuk. SM has his ways of making people like their artist. For example, SNSD, before debut, antis antis antis. Especially Jessica. and they are girls too. Look at them now. I would say the most popular girl group in Korea as of now.


I was also thinking of that whole deal with Jessica of SNSD. She did have a lot of antis before debut and I didn't have a great impression of her at first either but I didn't let those pre-debut rumors about her bug me and I gave her a chance and ... hey she's one of my favorites now XD. Some people don't always give great first impressions, but they grow on you over time. I hope Zhou Mi is one of them. Although I really like him loads as it is smile.gif. I look forward to seeing him have his own thread here. Again, I'm not saying everyone should like him cause ANY artist is bound to have people who don't like him, but ... just give him a chance, I guess? We've only seen him in one performance and like two interviews; I don't know how people can be so sure about who he is and what his personality is like from the 10 minutes he's been on screen. I hope he stays strong and doesn't let his anti's bother him too much. I think he's doing pretty well, though. I know that I were in his shoes, I'd be crying before and after every performance / interview / photoshoot / whatever. The guys seemed quite supportive of him, especially Ryeowook, so I'm happy to see it. Good for them.

I like that article about Hankyung taking '6 friends with him back home.' So cute <3. He seems very proud and he's handling his leadership duties remarkably well.
yienyienyien
Okay. I'm almost done watching the sohu interview. (it's so long BUT SO WORTH IT!! tongue.gif)

Our mochi henry is SO FREAKING CUTEEEEE!!! He just oozes cuteness, whatever he does. XD And I think the MCs really like him too cause they were always like "Ta hao ke ai a~" (he's so cute). WHO CAN HATE HIM?? His small eyes with chubby cheeks, AWWWWW, I wanna hug him. I don't think his mandarin is horrible. I think he can understand, but he's a bit slow. I like the way he writes B with a little curve inside the B.

Another person in this interview who is as adorable is WOOKIE! Omg, when they asked him to act out "ELF", he was screaming like a fanboy! SO CUTE!! <3 And he said he was mesmerized by Zhou Mi when he was speaking mandarin. Donghae was sssssooooooo cute! All those little actions of him (whispering, OMGAH WE HAVE FAN SERVICE ALREADY!) Siwon, gotta love his expressions. XD and he always change the movements in the "act out the words" game. He was dancing as Hwang Jin Yi when it's supposed to be Dae Jeung Gum. XD

I didn't really like Zhou Mi before. But I think he's alright now. I think the reason he was crying was because the MC asked him "What trait of yours that your fans will love?" (something along the line, I forgot) He has a lot of antis, and probably because of thinking about that he cried. People are giving him a hard time. >< And he can speak very very well. Well, yeah, cause he used to be a host. Plus, he wrote some of the songs, pretty talented. And he said Donghae rapped in mandarin better than him, I don't see how he's conceited. O_O wookie seems to be close to him. heh.

Geng is so sexy. XD Dancing Michael Jackson. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Geng seems really happy and comfortable to be back in China. I feel so glad too. And siwon!! HAHA the michael jackson NOSE. clever. XD

I'm so disgusted at some of the tudou comments though. VERY DISGUSTED.

forgiventempo
SJM Productions presents...
Project#2: Sohu Olympic Interview (part 1) with 9 Super Junior members: (This is where they imitiate Olympic sports)
Han Geng, Sungmin, Donghae, Ryeowook, Siwon, Yesung, Kyuhyun, Leeteuk and Kangin.


For more info, please visit FLAWLESS
More videos will be up soon...
jxmode
Oh Man I feel so left behind.
But omg. Wow. I actually really like SJM.
Siwon looks really different in the picture. I think its the angle.
Oooo 2 new members. Adds more. But Oh well.
I really like the song At Least I Still Have You.
I'm interested in hearing more songs from them.
13!SuJuAmor
Ok, I finally got around to watching the fancam of the performance & when they give the award and it was so much better than the official cam, lol. You can even see the crazy cameraman. Their dance just keeps getting more and more funny. The part when they hold each other and start swiveling their hips makes me giggle like crazy. I also love that part where Ryeowook does his little chest pop thing like, I'm the sex & I'm all upon your face with it. Except it's Wookie, so it just ends up being hilarious & adorable. Hankyung's chest will never get old though wink.gif, and his dance is smoking hot. I'm not looking at Henry's hips, I'm not looking at Henry's hips, I'm not, because he's 18 & I'm 22 and that's just wrong. Wookie looks adorable when he steps up to the mic & he's totally dwarfed by HK & ZM. And I'm loving all the black, like classy hit men.

Edit

QUOTE (plurals @ Apr 9 2008, 09:07 PM) *
i think in my complete noob-ness i might have underestimate the extent of the riff splitting this fandom apart (especially those who has been in it for a while). it's quite sad looking in and i wish i could go back to being just a casual fan completely ignorant of the whole drama.


Kind of sad that all this fighting between us fans makes new fans want to quit the fandom & might actually be scaring away potential fans. I tried to get an lj friend into SuJu, but she said she didn't need the drama that came with it in her life.

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Look at all the hips to avoid discrimination, lol. It works for me.
SangHeaK
I'm New Fan
I Like Suju M So Much
My Fav Mems Are HanGeng & Henry
astrid
QUOTE (13!SuJuAmor @ Apr 9 2008, 07:25 PM) *
Ok, I finally got around to watching the fancam of the performance & when they give the award and it was so much better than the official cam, lol. You can even see the crazy cameraman. Their dance just keeps getting more and more funny. The part when they hold each other and start swiveling their hips makes me giggle like crazy. I also love that part where Ryeowook does his little chest pop thing like, I'm the sex & I'm all upon your face with it. Except it's Wookie, so it just ends up being hilarious & adorable. Hankyung's chest will never get old though wink.gif, and his dance is smoking hot. I'm not looking at Henry's hips, I'm not looking at Henry's hips, I'm not, because he's 18 & I'm 22 and that's just wrong. Wookie looks adorable when he steps up to the mic & he's totally dwarfed by HK & ZM. And I'm loving all the black, like classy hit men.



I get the giggles too whenever i see the hip circular motion thing that they do but it's just so hot!lol!

Ahahaha...i'm turning 24 and i looked at Henry's hips,lol. I can't resist! i have to cause i looked at the others' and it wouldn't be fair to him..and to me if i didn't look lol haha.. But hey at least he's legal so he's not jailbait for us lmao
x__h a ll e n`
I actually like the idea of the SuJu-M thing. It gives a chance for the members to really show off their vocal talent instead of constantly switching back and forth (:

OMG HanGeng <3
chrissatinee
Ive just finsihed Watching the chinese version of U.
The MV was good. New beat to it. Henry is cute.
And Zhou Mi looks good there too. Im starting to like him already ^.^
Thanks in advance to the person who will start a pic thread for him!
I thought he looked like ShiWon but after watching the MV, he remins me of ..
LeeTeuk o_O also of this TVB actor Kenneth Ma really does..
lol. Ahhh Henry is so cuteeee. HanKyung should feel more comfortable singing now =)
since its his language. biggrin.gif i think SJM will def. do well in China
lilcece
omg wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif

I can't believe this thread jumped another 15 pages in ONE day! aside
from a few posts... I enjoyed reading all your spazzing comments ^^


QUOTE (forgiventempo @ Apr 9 2008, 09:35 PM) *
SJ-M debuts in the midst of oppositon, Han Geng responds

April 8th, SJ-M's members were officially chosen; this also includes the original Super Junior members: Han Geng, Siwon, Kyuhyun, Donghae, Ryeowook, there's also two new Chinese members --- Henry and Zhou Mi. At the Music Feng Yun Rank news center, Han Geng introduced the new members. One member is from Wu Han, singer Zhou Mi and the other from Canada but now coming back to his home country, Henry. April 8th was SJ-M's debut and also first time performing in China so it has caught a lot of attention.

But ever since SM Entertainment said to have a SJ-M group and adding new members, there were a lot of opposition from the fas. From BeiFang Online's netizens, a lot have commented that they don't wish to have new members, but of course they are fans who welcome SJ-M to China and wrote "Anticipating you all to perform with flying colors! SJ-M jiayou!".

Because of this situation, Han Geng yesterday made a response: "About the creation of SJ-M, there are people who oppose and there are people who support. What we have to do is to continue to work hard. We prepared this for a long time and will give our best to everyone. At the same time, we also need everyone's support and care. When I was in Korea, I was cared by a lot of the other Super Junior members, we're like family. Now, I'm taking 6 friends back home, I'm really happy and I hope we can get everyone's support." SJ-M's Korean members all used simple Chinese phrases to say hi to everyone. From here you can see SJ-M has preparation for the Chinese market.

But the fans opposition still has not rested. Whether or not SJ-M will create something big like Super Junior, only time will tell.

Credits: BeiFang Online, Lucy@FLAWLESS for translations

Hangeng is the man.

he knows what to say and I am sure the boys feel safer with Geng as leader.
SM wasn't kidding when he said Hangeng will open doors for korean artists
in China. I know a lot of fans opposed, but a majority of Hangeng's fans are
from China- so I can understand SM's intentions of putting him in this group.


in other words, the old man is using our precious Beijing Rice Cooker...


I hate to say this, but let's be honest. fans are supporting this group because
Super Junior members are in it, especially Hangeng. they're aiming China's
market, so they need the five of them to promote both Zhou Mi and Henry. all
the members from Super Junior are popular but among the chinese fans, all
of us know that Hangeng is their favorite. say if another SJ member promote
ZM or Henry, the outcome would be different cause China isn't their homeland.

that's why I feel they should give the two of them more time, especially Zhou
Mi. SM has always done the traditional way of debuting his artists: using old
artists (sunbae) to help the new ones (hoobae). if Zhou Mi or Henry debut by
themselves, I don't think they would be noticed in such a huge country. that's
why they form SJ-M to introduce Zhou Mi and Henry as an artist, not two new
members of SJ
. some fans need to stop assuming things and just... relax.


if they don't, they'll play RIGHT into SM's hands, just like he wants them to.


the thing about SM artists is that they play by SM's rules... if he knows fans are
making a big deal out of his artists, he doesn't say anything or try to stop it. he
just finds it amusing and watch things get out of control. in my opinion, the old
man is definitely using Hangeng to change fans views on this new group. SM
probably commanded Hangeng not to reveal Zhou Mi's and Henry's role in the
future- which I have an idea, and it's not adding them to Super Junior.


I admit... SM is wise businessman, but he's a very greedy man - -


edit_________

v
v `Dara; - exactly. the uproar from the fans doesn't matter to SM if it's positive or
negative. if it gives his artists attention, then he's satisfied. whether it's a good
thing or a bad thing, they're getting popular.
wowow00
man seriously this thread goes by FAST
and i mean FAST FAST FAST
hahahahaha ^^
`Dara;
@lilcece, i agree with what you said and i want to add something as well.
all these disputes about ZM&Henry being in SJ-M is actually helping LSM promote the group. in my opinion anyways.
from what i see. even if everyone supports or are against SJ-M debute, it wouldn't make a difference because either way you're helping to promote them.
renney_lim
i love suju the way they are and i love suju-M the way it is... (((:
i think the whole problem roots on the way some fans are overreacted by SM's action.
Like lilcece has said.., SM has his tradition of debuting his new artists through the support of the seniors. (ex: jang ri in, suju, dbsk) ..
well..we never know what the future plans for zhou mi or henry are.. but we know that they're now in Suju-M. Face it. It's the reality.
Suju-M just debuted and will be active in China in the near future. They have different vibes and concept just as the way the other sub-unit group differs (K.R.Y & Suju-Trot).
I just hope that fans will support suju-m (like the way fans support the other sub-unit groups) and start to recognize and give zhoumi & henry time to show that they're deserved to be in suju-m.. i know they have "something" that makes SM puts them into suju-m..
If you guys love them..please support them by buying their albums (not-boycotting) as they have worked really hard...
well, i'm just voicing out my thoughts...(((:
wowow00
QUOTE (marmar @ Apr 9 2008, 05:11 PM) *
Regarding Super Junior fans being split:
Well I know I am starting to feel split...Now I will always love Super Junior all 13 of them but the way things are going right now & how some ONLY13 fans are starting to act (not saying all just some) I'm really starting to just lean more into Super Junior-M..Just wish some ppl will just let it go. I mean leave Henry & ZhouMi alone it's not there fault. Remember if anything it's LSM fault. I'm annoyed with LSM for breaking his promise.



you know i sooo agree with you
all of these elves doing all these ONLY13 stuff
it's getting pretty annoying now
now to me i seem more like i'm leaning into suju m more than i'll lean into super junior
but i still love them a lot too, i'm not going to forget them
i just wish we can all cooperate, all us fans...
C'MON NONE OF THE SUJU BOIS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT HENRY AND ZHOU MI BEING ADDED IN
so why are we complaining???
we should just support both groups no matter what happens
SERIOUSLY IF YOU GUYS THINK THIS IS BAD ABOUD LSM HAVING A SUJU M ADDING HENRY AND ZHOU MI
IT'LL BE WORST WHEN SUPER JUNIOR BREAKS UP AS A GROUP, I MEAN WHEN THEIR CONTRACT IS DONE
now that's even worse...SO SAVE YOUR COMPLAINT UNTIL THEN OKAY!!!!!
*sighs*
80slitenite
Hangeng is a great leader. He is very smart. I liked very much what he said about "when I was in Korea, I was cared by a lot of the other Super Junior members, we're like family. Now, I'm taking 6 friends back home, I'm really happy and I hope we can get everyone's support." You have my support Hangeng.
It is unfortunate that LSM made this decision. Why couldn't the original 13 members go like DBSK and etc? But SJ-M is here so SJ-M Fighting!
kellyalster
QUOTE (forgiventempo @ Apr 9 2008, 09:35 PM) *
SJ-M debuts in the midst of oppositon, Han Geng responds

http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4...56991209xz2.jpg

Because of this situation, Han Geng yesterday made a response: "About the creation of SJ-M, there are people who oppose and there are people who support. What we have to do is to continue to work hard. We prepared this for a long time and will give our best to everyone. At the same time, we also need everyone's support and care. When I was in Korea, I was cared by a lot of the other Super Junior members, we're like family. Now, I'm taking 6 friends back home, I'm really happy and I hope we can get everyone's support."

Credits: BeiFang Online, Lucy@FLAWLESS for translations


Haha Henry's smile is so adorkable!
And Han Geng is one hell of a leader. He's doing a great job. smile.gif

And those songs from the radio are amazing! But I'm having a hard time identifying some of them. I don't know why. Maybe I'm just not used to Zhou Mi and Henry's voices yet. I'm assuming the voice where "zh ch and sh" aren't pronounced heavily should be Henry's 'cause of the Taiwanese-influenced accent. I don't know, I could be wrong. Is anybody able to identify their voices?
lumiyooni
QUOTE (wowow00 @ Apr 9 2008, 11:13 PM) *
you know i sooo agree with you
all of these elves doing all these ONLY13 stuff
it's getting pretty annoying now

now to me i seem more like i'm leaning into suju m more than i'll lean into super junior
but i still love them a lot too, i'm not going to forget them
i just wish we can all cooperate, all us fans...
C'MON NONE OF THE SUJU BOIS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT HENRY AND ZHOU MI BEING ADDED IN
so why are we complaining???
we should just support both groups no matter what happens
SERIOUSLY IF YOU GUYS THINK THIS IS BAD ABOUD LSM HAVING A SUJU M ADDING HENRY AND ZHOU MI
IT'LL BE WORST WHEN SUPER JUNIOR BREAKS UP AS A GROUP, I MEAN WHEN THEIR CONTRACT IS DONE
now that's even worse...SO SAVE YOUR COMPLAINT UNTIL THEN OKAY!!!!!
*sighs*


yeah :X it's getting kinda... ;X

i think that henry<3 especially has a lot to contribute :3

btw, this thread is increasing so fast xD
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