QUOTE (eumsung @ Apr 10 2008, 02:40 AM)

wow.. heaps of people don't like zhou mi...
i've met him a couple of times before he was assigned to Suju-M..
he's really nice, and a very hard worker.
I think he looks different now and he has definitely lost a LOT of weight.
i get where people say he looks arrogant and so on..
but he has been getting a hard time from fans in korea and it seems now all around the world.
i feel really bad for him cause he's a good guy and he's wanted this for so long..
i wish people wouldn't single him out but i appreciate that people are waiting and giving him a chance to prove himself..
most people don't know either. they just don't.
QUOTE (tiffany_v @ Apr 10 2008, 05:31 AM)

Please excuse me for asking this question but i dont really get why Zhou Mi receives so many criticisms and attacks? What has he done wrong to make everyone dislikes him, they say it's because of his personality, but isnt it true that SJM just debuted, then we cant really judge his personality yet. So then whats on earth that lots of people give Zhou Mi negative comments already?
you're asking the wrong group of people.
QUOTE (baby2swt @ Apr 10 2008, 03:17 AM)

I really don't find it THAT disrespectful...
If people with all the members of SJM post in the super junior thread and it's about the 13 members, I wouldn't find it disrespectful. I could find all the people posting in the suju thread sporting Henry and Zhoumi banners disrepectful, but I don't because it's THEIR signature, it's THEIR choice to put whatever they want. I don't sport the banner, but I DO have Only13 in my signature. I'm still hanging aroud here posting because I want to support the five members I love.
QUOTE (summerdream @ Apr 10 2008, 06:37 AM)

As for the banner issue, I don't know why there a NEED to quarrel over a banner of your like. Take my ava for example, see, I only put yoochun and jaejoong as my ava display is because those two are my favorite in tvxq but I DO also like all but there surely be a favorite in everyone hearts. You can't possible say that "oh, I like all. I can't choose" that a lie, there surely one that you like the most in your heart but is just that you are not sure about it.Continue doing this is no use, WHAT HAPPEN HAS ALREADY HAPPEN, WE CAN'T TRAVEL BACK TO THE PAST AND STOP EVERYTHING!! SO STOP ALL THOSE RUDE COMMENT!!!!
lol! And how do you know that none of the suju boys are not complaining about Henry and ZM being added in. You don't even know this, as you are not living with them. =)
This is so sweet of them! Missing each other already. *smile* this is why I love them all! <3
since i was the one who brought this up, i feel the need to defend my position. i've said this already, but it's my fault as w. my first statement i didn't make myself clear enough. i was referring to the "the way suju.m should be" banners that have henry and zhoumi edited out. i fully support only13 (the concept, not the fans), but i do find those types of banners
very disrespectful, (here, i quote myself) 'not only toward the two in question but also toward people like geng who have worked so hard to get sjm going. the original members don't have a problem w. zhoumi and henry; do fans who claim to want suju to succeed have the right to shaft them like they've been doing?'
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You can't possible say that "oh, I like all. I can't choose" that a lie, there surely one that you like the most in your heart but is just that you are not sure about it." um, no, speak for yourself. i can, actually. i've been a fan for nearly four years now, of suju and dongbang and other artistes, and i never found it necessary to pick a favourite. this is me liking the group as a whole and how i support them. quoting you "WHAT HAPPEN HAS ALREADY HAPPEN, WE CAN'T TRAVEL BACK TO THE PAST AND STOP EVERYTHING!! SO STOP ALL THOSE RUDE COMMENT!!!!": exactly. so how 'bout those people who think they still have the right to dictate how suju.m is structured get over it?
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lol! And how do you know that none of the suju boys are not complaining about Henry and ZM being added in. You don't even know this, as you are not living with them. =)
This is so sweet of them! Missing each other already. *smile* this is why I love them all! <3" lol, don't contradict yourself; you love them all 'cause they love each other, so that means they love geng as well. why then would they not support sjm and its two new members?
QUOTE (iSNT LiFE JUiCY @ Apr 10 2008, 04:12 AM)

its saddening to read people hating on the new members. photoshopping them out of banners and editting them out of videos is too much. hangeng was not initially loved by the korean fans because of his rudimentary korean with a chinese accent. they didnt consider him as hot as their korean "oppas" either. well, its obvious they got over that once they have him a chance to prove himself. everyone should give these two the same courtesy.
i think having henry adds a different element to the group besides the whole violin thing. he can speak english which no one in the group can, not well at least. plus zhou mi can speak chinese. obviously hangeng can too, but having an extra member who can helps the group a lot, especially when they are debuting in CHINA. do you expect hangeng to do all the talking? what would have made it even better was if henry could be able to speak more fluently.
i wish everyone could take those ONLY 13 banners down. they are insulting to not only the new members but the original ones too. it wont change much, however, because the ultimate judges of the success of Super Junior M will be the chinese fans .
jia yo. fighting. sjm, give it your all.
well said.
geng and kyu weren't initially well.recieved by fans either, and look how loved they are now. i can't call myself a fan of zhoumi 'cause i've yet to see him prove his character, but it irks me when people constantly judge him 'cause he's one of the two new guys. he hasn't done anything for you all to judge yet, except maybe cry, but that only proves he's human. he doesn't need you to pity him and like him for his tears, but he doesn't need you to hate on him for them either.
the one part of your comment i don't agree w. is the second, about the banners. i don't think i made myself clear on that, but i do believe that banners reflect a person's opinions and only13 supporters have all the right in the world to support that. but it's like this: one doesn't wander into a school promoting pornography, nor does one trek through a vegan community supporting meat. this is a public forum and if you're gunna enter a thread upholding controversial opinions, expect someone to hit you up on it and don't start crying about being attacked.
<3 tiffo