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li-mei
QUOTE (~Sue~ @ Apr 13 2008, 06:14 PM) *
I'm sorry, but I'm a little slow. Maybe it was mentioned before, but I missed it. Anyways, who is Lee Eunji and what happened? I'm so confused. I really don't want to back log any thread right now as this one is already hard enough to keep up with, so can someone please kindly provide me with a detailed summary. Thanks in advance!


Lee Eun Ji was a young girl who was a guest on the show that Kang Ho Dong hosted called "Star King" where they usually feature young stars and their talents and achievements (or at least that's what I've been seeing on there). Lee Eun Ji was on the show to tell her story about how she lost a significant amount of weight (I forgot exactly how much....45kg?) in such a short period of time (maybe 3 months?) in order to fulfill her grandmother's wish.

Super Junior was on the show, and they praised her achievement. Later on, she (or someone) posted a picture of her on the internet with Kang In together back stage. It was innocent, she was just a fan who wanted a picture with him. But some SUJU fans bashed her continuously online because of jealousy and that eventually lead her to committing suicide because she couldn't handle all the pressure and harrassment.

Edit: Eeep, someone beat me to it.
fallenframes
Fancams continued...
Donghae & Siwon's faces
Mini SiRy moment XD
Choosing team members
Team Siwon dancing
Team Hangeng dancing

random mimi pic

cr. zm baidu
yellow_munky
QUOTE (li-mei @ Apr 13 2008, 05:34 PM) *
Lee Eun Ji was a young girl who was a guest on the show that Kang Ho Dong hosted called "Star King" where they usually feature young stars and their talents and achievements (or at least that's what I've been seeing on there). Lee Eun Ji was on the show to tell her story about how she lost a significant amount of weight (I forgot exactly how much....45kg?) in such a short period of time (maybe 3 months?) in order to fulfill her grandmother's wish.

Super Junior was on the show, and they praised her achievement. Later on, she (or someone) posted a picture of her on the internet with Kang In together back stage. It was innocent, she was just a fan who wanted a picture with him. But some SUJU fans bashed her continuously online because of jealousy and that eventually lead her to committing suicide because she couldn't handle all the pressure and harrassment.

Edit: Eeep, someone beat me to it.


jeez, it seems like fans in korea are so freaking scary! 0-0 how were they even able to get the girl's number?

man, i would never want to mess with them.

it just make me realize that the fans here in the U.S. are less crazy and more normal than the ones in korea....^^;;;
asdfxkathy
i uploaded some fancams onto youtube as well
because i know tudou doesn't work for some people. :3


FANCAMS !
Siwonnie dancing to the Three Bear song!
Henry doing a cute pose. :3

ah, i seriously cannot wait until the Very Big Star is aired.
it'll be uploaded online right? because i don't have the chinese channel. D:
kaizer21
QUOTE (li-mei @ Apr 13 2008, 08:34 PM) *
Lee Eun Ji was a young girl who was a guest on the show that Kang Ho Dong hosted called "Star King" where they usually feature young stars and their talents and achievements (or at least that's what I've been seeing on there). Lee Eun Ji was on the show to tell her story about how she lost a significant amount of weight (I forgot exactly how much....45kg?) in such a short period of time (maybe 3 months?) in order to fulfill her grandmother's wish.


Holy crap, 80+lbs in three months?

I thought me losing 20 in a month and a half was goodD:

How long ago was this?

- 영운
strawberry78
QUOTE (ellis @ Apr 13 2008, 05:59 PM) *
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q190/ellis_nguyen/Henry/cd498c3d54df71fc3c6d976b.jpg
cr:baidu
Aweee I love how in most of those pix, we often see the Henwook couple!!!!!!
And I'm sorry if that sentence of mine offends you or something...that was just like the first thing flashed through my mind when I heard "mimi" since I'm not Chinese and I can't read anything on Baidu sweatingbullets.gif
@ ee-bbeun-ee...yub..that thread just like stressed me out ... so...im now basically outdated on Suju's stuff ... so sad tho

HenWook ! I am so loving Ryeowook's new image, especially in these pictures! He looks so gosh darn near perfect! ^_____^
And no I wasn't offended by your comment, sorry if it sounded rude though =(



hehe
credits: tagged

Love all the fans cams!!
This show looks so random, should be fun to watch! Though we'll probably have already seen most of it thanks to the clips lol..

Ryeo, Henry and Donghae's dance were so cute! Hahaha Kyu and ZM's sexy dance, both identical and somewhere between sexy/pervy/ and awkward tongue.gif
I love these two a lot ^^
CherryBlossom81
Oh my gosh, some of you worry WAY to much! First it is just a rumor that they will be staying in China for 2 years and if they do so what! They have to spend time in the country they are marketing too and the other SUJU members have all sorts of projects, so they will be busy too and you still have the tour.

These are grown men (and Henry lol) and they can handle it people. When you get into this busienss, you have to work HARD to stay on top and that may mean no vacations.

Also what is this I hear that some people are worried about them not being in Korea? So only Korean fans should see them. You cannot just keep them to yourself. America has not even had a chance to see SUJU and I do not really count the Hollywood Bowl concert. They do have other fans in other countries.

Oh and about the fans knowing SM, I am not so sure about that because they really thought their protest would do some good and it did not. It is a business, that is why it is called show business and that means everything does not go your way (both as an artist and fan).

If anything I think until SM saids they are dumping SUJU (at which I will personally fly to Korea and rip LSM a brand new one), everything will be fine.

Oh and can we not bring the assumptions and worries in this thread? Lets keep the support and positivity.. we do love them right? smile.gif
wowow00
QUOTE (kaizer21 @ Apr 13 2008, 07:31 PM) *
She was a girl who appeared on Star King after losing a tremendous amount of weight (40kg, which is about 88lbs [seriously, it's such an accomplishment to have lost that much weight] ). I'm not sure exactly why she appeared on Star King, other than her success of losing weight, or why she lost weight in the first place, but she took a picture with Kang-In, and that spread throughout the internet.

ELF fans started to bash her for taking a picture with Kang-In, IIRC, and eventually found out her cell #, and sent her horrible text messages, which drove her to commit suicide, God bless her soul.

Anyone, please feel free to correct me.

- 영운


it gets me mad and angry when i read that article
not to be mean but officials elf fans are pretty heartless
why get jealous of a girl taking picture with one of your idols??
i wondered how they felt after they found out that she commited suicide
if i was an official elf member i would be sooo ASHAMED of myself
causing someone to commit suicide
seriously
after that incident
OFFICIAL ELF FANS SHOULD FEEL SOOOO ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES



QUOTE (CherryBlossom81 @ Apr 13 2008, 08:47 PM) *
Oh my gosh, some of you worry WAY to much! First it is just a rumor that they will be staying in China for 2 years and if they do so what! They have to spend time in the country they are marketing too and the other SUJU members have all sorts of projects, so they will be busy too and you still have the tour.

These are grown men (and Henry lol) and they can handle it people. When you get into this busienss, you have to work HARD to stay on top and that may mean no vacations.

Also what is this I hear that some people are worried about them not being in Korea? So only Korean fans should see them. You cannot just keep them to yourself. America has not even had a chance to see SUJU and I do not really count the Hollywood Bowl concert. They do have other fans in other countries.

Oh and about the fans knowing SM, I am not so sure about that because they really thought their protest would do some good and it did not. It is a business, that is why it is called show business and that means everything does not go your way (both as an artist and fan).

If anything I think until SM saids they are dumping SUJU (at which I will personally fly to Korea and rip LSM a brand new one), everything will be fine.

Oh and can we not bring the assumptions and worries in this thread? Lets keep the support and positivity.. we do love them right? smile.gif



well said
business is all about heading to the top
you have to do whatever to make your business good
so i wouldn't see anything wrong why LSM is heading for chinese market and created SJM
i think he's a smart man
not to be mean but really i do
like i said business is all about getting to the top
and not failing


QUOTE (kaizer21 @ Apr 13 2008, 08:08 PM) *
Holy crap, 80+lbs in three months?

I thought me losing 20 in a month and a half was goodD:

How long ago was this?

- 영운



that article is long time ago
if i'm correct
PLZ CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG
i just don't remember the actual year that it happened


QUOTE (yellow_munky @ Apr 13 2008, 08:07 PM) *
jeez, it seems like fans in korea are so freaking scary! 0-0 how were they even able to get the girl's number?

man, i would never want to mess with them.

it just make me realize that the fans here in the U.S. are less crazy and more normal than the ones in korea....^^;;;



haha yeah fans in the U.S. are less crazy as the korean fans
i read on this site saying that korean fans are the scariest fans out there
LMAO
and i believe it too
ee-bbeun-ee
ahahaha...siwon's team did the cute dances^^ lol.
and hangeng's team did sexy...LMAO^^ they seemed
soo akward. ahahaha...couldn't help but giggle^^.
wowow00
didn't mean to double post
CherryBlossom81
Well said wowow00 about the business.


By the way thank you to everyone who are posting pictures. The guys are just so cute!!!! wub.gif

Man I am still trying to catch up...
TVXQ_superjunior
Wow... I find it suprising how ELF could break up into 2sub-teams...
1) Only 13
2) Flawless

It's rather shame how you dare to call yourself ELF if you don't know how important 13 is to ELF
It's rather shame how you, ELF could be so selffish and not thought about feeling of Hankyung, Zhoumi and Henry

Only 13 have the rights to save their SuperJunior so that it will be 13 as it is
Ever since KyuHyun joins the team, it was never a project group anymore
And I know how they feel, feeling so hurt and betrayed and disrespect but SM
These feelings Flawless will never know or understand
But it doesn't meant that they could go to performance shouting "only 13" like no one else business
Their actions will hurt Hankyung, Henry and Zhoumi
Keep this in mind that SM is at fault now, I dont actually mind if you go to the SM builing and start protesting
Since you guys wanted the attention from SM
But sometimes, you must also think about others feelings
No matter it's Henry, Zhoumi, Hankyung or Flawless
Feelings counts
Do you dare not to say that you are not part of ELF that you are supporting Kyuhyun, Donghae, Siwon, Hankyung, Ryeowook in SuperJunior M

Flawless have the rights to save their SuperJunior M no matter at what cost
They are not a fault but if they want to get Henry and Zhoumi into Superjunior then, they are to blame
They must understand how Only13 feel too...
The only reason SuperJunior-M exist the first place is because SuperJunior exist
^ do you dare to tell me this is not true?
So bear that in mind that you cannot go bashing ELF like no one else business
I love the spirit you have about trying to protect Hankyung, Zhoumi and Henry's feelings
I'm rather supportive in that option because we all know how important this is to them
But seriously, dont go bashing in SuperJunior thread telling 13 are too many or what so ever
you are making it worst...
You have to admit that you are also part of ELF, not(?)
since you are also supporting Kyuhyun, Donghae, Siwon, Hankyung, Ryeowook while supporting Henry and Zhoumi
So, does that make any difference? You are still an ELF

I hate the war that is going on right now!
Only13 vs Flawlees
but the winner is never either one of them...
It's SM!
You are giving the opporturning for SM to win over the fans...
So lets just stop the war and keep all those Only13 and Flawless feeling to ourself...

I'm sorry if my words and hurt you in either way
But this is what I think...
ELF will always be ELF
As long as SuperJunior live, ELF lives
ELF will never ever break into Only13 or Flawless
So just stop the bashing and support them to yourself
nhbsakakude
^

I'm not an elfnor flawless since I did not join the grp,but that doesn't make me love them any lesser..
I too don see the point of gg to suju thread and bashing the ppl there...
Vice versa for ppl to bash falwless...
Can't we all be civilised ppl with brains?
If u don like wat the ppl r saying there,DON GO THERE!!!!
*My post is probably ignored again as usual.. <__<

ANYWAY,

But i think the gal who committed was already under depression and the suju fans actions just snapped her last will power to live i guess...


I really really REALLY wan to buy the album 'cause I wan the file...But Im worried there might b a repackage album... @___@ ( tho i doubt so since many elfs will b boycotting )

Anyone here have a picture of wat the file might look like?
fallenframes
asdfxkathy: two fancams i didn't upload, even though i have them haha. like i said before. the 3 bears one is really upsetting cuz siwon looks really uncomfortable doing it. he even stopped the audience.
and that henry pose. the random "WOW" always makes me laugh. at first, i though he said it, but it wasn't him haha.

strawberry78: lmao yeah we probably have watched most of it. the funny parts anyway. "sexy/pervy/ and awkward" probably the right words, haha.
here's another of kyuhyun...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mx1Hd8OEVM
Peachy_Pearl
QUOTE (kaizer21 @ Apr 13 2008, 05:31 PM) *
She was a girl who appeared on Star King after losing a tremendous amount of weight (40kg, which is about 88lbs [seriously, it's such an accomplishment to have lost that much weight] ). I'm not sure exactly why she appeared on Star King, other than her success of losing weight, or why she lost weight in the first place, but she took a picture with Kang-In, and that spread throughout the internet.

ELF fans started to bash her for taking a picture with Kang-In, IIRC, and eventually found out her cell #, and sent her horrible text messages, which drove her to commit suicide, God bless her soul.

Anyone, please feel free to correct me.

- 영운


What drove her to commit suicide was actually a fight with her mom. She left a note saying something like "I'm sad to have been scolded, etc." Some Elf (ten or so according to her friends) did attack her online but they weren't the only ones. Her classmates also did. She was also in depression and a bit unstable from having lost so much weights. Here's the whole article.

QUOTE
The suicide of a high schoolgirl who appeared on a television entertainment program is heating the cyber world over the reason for the suicide.

According to police, the 16-year-old girl, Lee Eun-ji, hung herself in her room at her home in Daejeon early Tuesday morning. Her mother was the first to find her.

Early last month, the girl appeared on an SBS television show titled "StarKing," where ordinary citizens with extraordinary abilities or stories compete for an award.

Lee drew public attention to her loss of 40 kilograms, bringing her weight from 87 to 47 kilograms in three months. She said she did so in order to please her late grandmother who used to worry about her being overweight.

Lee's mother told police that she had scolded her daughter the evening before her death for not eating to lose more weight. Then Lee went to her room and the next morning her mother found her dead, according to the police.

There was a written will on her desk. It read, "I'm sad to have been scolded. Father and mother, I'm sorry for having worried you. I'm sorry for having given you pain."

Although her mother said Lee had suffered from depression over the stress of weight control, many Internet users are blaming fans of boy band Super Junior for Lee's death _ Lee's friends testified she received malicious comments by Super Junior fans after a picture of her posing with one of the group members during the television show was spread on the Internet.

A friend of Lee said Lee had posted a note on a Web site last month saying she was distressed by the comments.

Another friend said not only the star's fans but also Lee's classmates posted hurtful comments on her blog, with one of the comments saying, "Are you happy to have lost that much weight and to be on TV? I bet you underwent liposuction."

Producers of StarKing put an article of mourning on the program's Web site, saying they were shocked at the news and were praying for her.

A fan of the pop group also posted a written apology on a portal site. She said she and other fans recognized their comments could have led to Lee's suicide and apologized, adding they were regretful for having been jealous of the picture.

Source: The Korea Times

li-mei
QUOTE (kaizer21 @ Apr 13 2008, 07:08 PM) *
Holy crap, 80+lbs in three months?

I thought me losing 20 in a month and a half was goodD:

How long ago was this?

- 영운


It was last year in June, but let's not talk about it anymore. >_>

I'm sketching out the SJM members for fun! I've started drawing Ryeowook...but then I realized that I drew his body too big so I've decided to start over. It's been a long while since I've pulled myself away from photoshop and actually started pencil sketching. Eeep, but school starts tomorrow again...I probably won't have time to finish until exams are over.
CherryBlossom81
First, only-13 fans were not too kind to alot of people, so there you go.....


It is not that we do not understand only-13 elf but we just think they are over the top. You cannot have everything you want. Show business is not necessarily for the fans but the record companies and artists to succeed. Yes the fans help but they are given the choice to help support their artists.

It is like working for a regular company, the company hires you not because they necessarily are worried about you succeeding but they want you to help them succeed, that is why they ask "why would you be a good candidate for the job?"

Same with SUJU, they work for SM and were picked not necessarily only so they can be famous but also for SM to make money.

The fans are an added bonus but not the whole importance. And the reason why they are not the whole importance because record lables know how fickle people can be and fans pick and choose who they support and that can change often.

Of course we all will be with SUJU until the end (myself included), but that is not always the case with every fan.


P.S. this is just my opinion, so I hope nobody thinks I am trying to be a know-it-all... so sorry in advance.
asdfxkathy
QUOTE (fallenframes @ Apr 13 2008, 08:02 PM) *
asdfxkathy: two fancams i didn't upload, even though i have them haha. like i said before. the 3 bears one is really upsetting cuz siwon looks really uncomfortable doing it. he even stopped the audience.
and that henry pose. the random "WOW" always makes me laugh. at first, i though he said it, but it wasn't him haha.

actually i noticed that too. and i felt bad for him, even though i thought it was cute,
because it looked like that he really didn't want to do it. :|
haha, i thought that henry said wow too, but when i rewatched it, i realized it was the host. D:
i wish i could hear him speak more englishhhhh. haha. <3


QUOTE (li-mei @ Apr 13 2008, 08:08 PM) *
I'm sketching out the SJM members for fun! I've started drawing Ryeowook...but then I realized that I drew his body too big so I've decided to start over. It's been a long while since I've pulled myself away from photoshop and actually started pencil sketching. Eeep, but school starts tomorrow again...I probably won't have time to finish until exams are over.

you draw? that's cool. i do too. smile.gif
i drew ryeowook once about a month ago. and it actually came out pretty similar to the original picture.
and i was going to draw the rest of the SuJu members, but i only got to sungmin before i stopped because of time. D:
wowow00
QUOTE (CherryBlossom81 @ Apr 13 2008, 09:21 PM) *
First, only-13 fans were not too kind to alot of people, so there you go.....


It is not that we do not understand only-13 elf but we just think they are over the top. You cannot have everything you want. Show business is not necessarily for the fans but the record companies and artists to succeed. Yes the fans help but they are given the choice to help support their artists.

It is like working for a regular company, the company hires you not because they necessarily are worried about you succeeding but they want you to help them succeed, that is why they ask "why would you be a good candidate for the job?"

Same with SUJU, they work for SM and were picked not necessarily only so they can be famous but also for SM to make money.

The fans are an added bonus but not the whole importance. And the reason why they are not the whole importance because record lables know how fickle people can be and fans pick and choose who they support and that can change often.

Of course we all will be with SUJU until the end (myself included), but that is not always the case with every fan.


P.S. this is just my opinion, so I hope nobody thinks I am trying to be a know-it-all... so sorry in advance.


well said
and i wish that only13 fans would understand



TO FLAWLESS MEMBERS!!!!


ZHOU MI'S BIRTHDAY IS COMING UP PRETTY SOON APRIL 19, ARE WE GOING TO DO ANYTHING SPECIAL FOR HIS BIRTHDAY?
x-prince
.............

.......

Zhou mi reminds me of a waiter XD *Runs away and gets bashed up*

he has the look of an akward person, but he is full of confidence. lol

Henry is soo cute with those cheeks and his pucker lips. ahaha

i love that pic of him with an old lady, he looks sooo blur. hehehe
miss scarlett
QUOTE (li-mei @ Apr 13 2008, 05:34 PM) *
But some SUJU fans bashed her continuously online because of jealousy and that eventually lead her to committing suicide because she couldn't handle all the pressure and harrassment.

ELF was not the main cause of that girl's death, as posted previously.
If ELF did bash her so much that she chose to take her life, than all those fangirls that hugged them at the Marry U mini concert, all those female celebrities that hugged them, are in danger.

QUOTE (kaizer21 @ Apr 13 2008, 06:08 PM) *
How long ago was this?

Summer of 2007 I believe.

QUOTE (CherryBlossom81 @ Apr 13 2008, 06:47 PM) *
Oh and about the fans knowing SM, I am not so sure about that because they really thought their protest would do some good and it did not. It is a business, that is why it is called show business and that means everything does not go your way (both as an artist and fan).

The fans are loyal and they stick to what they believe in. It is a business, but to be successful, you have to deal with the consumers.
If the consumers don't like what they produce, how sucessful will their business be?

ELF's protests aren't doing any good? Having all of Korea and the rest of the world know about Only13 isn't doing any good to it?
They want to be heard. Like what I said before, ELF knows SM very, VERY well.
maharu.
QUOTE (wowow00 @ Apr 13 2008, 09:28 PM) *

TO FLAWLESS MEMBERS!!!!


ZHOU MI'S BIRTHDAY IS COMING UP PRETTY SOON APRIL 19, ARE WE GOING TO DO ANYTHING SPECIAL FOR HIS BIRTHDAY?

Although I'm just a supporter of suju m and the members, I think like a poster filled with many people's comments and mixing it well with his pictures would
sound awsome=] haha just a suggestion!



Anyway its not nice to bring up only 13, stories that are unrelated to Suju M.

And I agree with the super junior is a show business. They can't work the ways fans totally want it or it won't be a successful group.
LSM knows most likely what he wants to do with suju so I think I would let him do his thing.
Although yeah some things are unfair but honestly..it is entertainment business so you can't really help the fact they lie, hide facts, and not say about their plans.


I'm kind of sick with the only13 thing. Yeah I was agreeing in the beginning BEFORE I saw suju m. Now I just want to see suju m grow and see how well they do.
I think this unnecessary battle is making us NEGLECT the original 13 members.


We are too caught up in this stupid battle that we neglect what we love the most: seeing healthy and happy suju members.
fallenframes
QUOTE (li-mei @ Apr 13 2008, 10:08 PM) *
It was last year in June, but let's not talk about it anymore. >_>

I'm sketching out the SJM members for fun! I've started drawing Ryeowook...but then I realized that I drew his body too big so I've decided to start over. It's been a long while since I've pulled myself away from photoshop and actually started pencil sketching. Eeep, but school starts tomorrow again...I probably won't have time to finish until exams are over.

agreed.
i wanna see sketches, please post some when you can

QUOTE (asdfxkathy @ Apr 13 2008, 10:24 PM) *
actually i noticed that too. and i felt bad for him, even though i thought it was cute,
because it looked like that he really didn't want to do it. :|
haha, i thought that henry said wow too, but when i rewatched it, i realized it was the host. D:
i wish i could hear him speak more englishhhhh. haha. <3



you draw? that's cool. i do too. smile.gif
i drew ryeowook once about a month ago. and it actually came out pretty similar to the original picture.
and i was going to draw the rest of the SuJu members, but i only got to sungmin before i stopped because of time. D:

unless there are old video clips floating around, i doubt we'd get to hear more english. you draw too, please post scans! here or flawless, hehe.

QUOTE (wowow00 @ Apr 13 2008, 10:28 PM) *

TO FLAWLESS MEMBERS!!!!


ZHOU MI'S BIRTHDAY IS COMING UP PRETTY SOON APRIL 19, ARE WE GOING TO DO ANYTHING SPECIAL FOR HIS BIRTHDAY?

yes, let's. i have no idea what though....something that could possibly reach him? or just a birthday thread here, lol.

QUOTE (x-prince @ Apr 13 2008, 10:28 PM) *
.............

.......

Zhou mi reminds me of a waiter XD *Runs away and gets bashed up*

he has the look of an akward person, but he is full of confidence. lol

he is full of confidence, makes him different. the waiter comment's kinda cute, lol.


please stop spamming about non-sjm
mikamoui
QUOTE (TVXQ_superjunior @ Apr 13 2008, 09:00 PM) *
Wow... I find it suprising how ELF could break up into 2sub-teams...
1) Only 13
2) Flawless

But seriously, dont go bashing in SuperJunior thread telling 13 are too many or what so ever
you are making it worst...
You have to admit that you are also part of ELF, not(?)
since you are also supporting Kyuhyun, Donghae, Siwon, Hankyung, Ryeowook while supporting Henry and Zhoumi
So, does that make any difference? You are still an ELF

I hate the war that is going on right now!
Only13 vs Flawlees
but the winner is never either one of them...
It's SM!
You are giving the opporturning for SM to win over the fans...
So lets just stop the war and keep all those Only13 and Flawless feeling to ourself...



): I love you right now. Therefore....let's stop all this war, and support whoever we want to support, yes? biggrin.gif
and Lawl at siwon and his pooh bear XD. I'm late because this thread moves super fast, but the dance battle was hilarious XD It's funny how Ryeowook was copying Hankyung, but then he forgot to turn. Kyuhyun's dance was hilarious XD
CherryBlossom81
You are right consumers do need to like what is being produced but Korean fans are only a fraction of SUJU's success, so if they do not support SUJU, there are still fans in other countries who will support them and they will always make new fans.

Look at Britney Spears, yeah her career is non existing and she probabaly lost fans but she can always gain more and there are still fans who are there with her.

Ok so everyone knows about the only-13 fans and what did that do? Ok it brought attention to those fans and.....

I do not think people are focused on the fans but SUJU and the outcome of their career. It is not about only-13 fans. They are not the important ones here, SUJU are! It still did not stop SJM from forming just because people know about the only-13 fans. I mean were they trying to get famous in this whole ordeal?
wowow00
QUOTE (fallenframes @ Apr 13 2008, 09:43 PM) *
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yes, let's. i have no idea what though....something that could possibly reach him? or just a birthday thread here, lol.



yeah that's what i was thinking too, but i don't know if we were to do that, how is it supposed to reach him
but yeah a birthday thread would be nice JUST FOR ZHOU MI ^^


man you guys are going to kill me for saying this...
suju is LSM toy....oh man hahahaha
maharu.
CherryBlossom81

I think you're right. This whole ordeal is making suju have some spotlight. I think LSM knew this was coming lol.
Hmm I'll start to need to buy suju m stuff when it comes out.


And wowow00, I love your sig and avatar<333 ahah mochi, so cuteee.
wowow00
QUOTE (hangbok_2007 @ Apr 13 2008, 09:48 PM) *
CherryBlossom81

I think you're right. This whole ordeal is making suju have some spotlight. I think LSM knew this was coming lol.
Hmm I'll start to need to buy suju m stuff when it comes out.


And wowow00, I love your sig and avatar<333 ahah mochi, so cuteee.




hahaha thanks ^^
"i am mochi"
hahahaha CUTENESS OVERLOAD
maharu.
^ aw yes, his skin is like fluffy and smooshy looking like a mochi.

I want to call him tofu boyxD maybe ill make a avatar with tofu boy on it lol.
x-prince
you guys are seriously cracking me up, the way you guys talk about Henry's cheeks XD

yummy, tender
ahahaha it sounds like you guys are associating his cheeks with food and wanna eat it XD ahaha
baoi
this group looks very SMEXY..
never knew much about Henry or ZM,
but i want to know more.. ZM is reallllly cute (in the picture)
miss scarlett
QUOTE (hangbok_2007 @ Apr 13 2008, 07:43 PM) *
I'm kind of sick with the only13 thing. Yeah I was agreeing in the beginning BEFORE I saw suju m.

I'm glad Father LSM's strategy is working.

QUOTE (CherryBlossom81 @ Apr 13 2008, 07:45 PM) *
You are right consumers do need to like what is being produced but Korean fans are only a fraction of SUJU's success, so if they do not support SUJU, there are still fans in other countries who will support them and they will always make new fans.

Look at Britney Spears, yeah her career is non existing and she probabaly lost fans but she can always gain more and there are still fans who are there with her.

Ok so everyone knows about the only-13 fans and what did that do? Ok it brought attention to those fans and.....

Consumers are not just a fraction of Suju's success... they are the whole reason why Super Junior is still here today.
How can you call one successful if he doesn't have the fans to support him?
Not only that, but these consumers are also a huge fraction of SM's money.
Come on. We wouldn't want Super Junior to turn out like Britney Spears, do we? laugh.gif
SM knows very well that SJM will bring in attention, no matter if it's seen in a negative way or positive way. That's why he ignored all protests done by Only13 and continued with his plan. SM may have gained a whole lot of new fans to support SJM, but they did indeed lost a whole lot of the old crowd.

Wouldn't it be just perfect if SJM not only gained new fans but kept the old ones as well?
If SJM is successful even with just the new fans, than I can't imagine how successful they would be with their old fans as well.

But whatever happened, happened, and I wish SJM good luck in China.
And I hope they go to Taiwan & HK, lol.
wowow00
QUOTE (hangbok_2007 @ Apr 13 2008, 09:58 PM) *
^ aw yes, his skin is like fluffy and smooshy looking like a mochi.

I want to call him tofu boyxD maybe ill make a avatar with tofu boy on it lol.




hahahah
tofu boy haha
how cute ^^
i want to see the icon when you make it >_<
ee-bbeun-ee
QUOTE (x-prince @ Apr 13 2008, 09:59 PM) *
you guys are seriously cracking me up, the way you guys talk about Henry's cheeks XD

yummy, tender
ahahaha it sounds like you guys are associating his cheeks with food and wanna eat it XD ahaha


ahaha..lmao^^ i'm totally cracking up from the food talk about henry too^^.
ahaha...pretty soon he will become food^^ ROFL. soo yummy~~
essayistic
QUOTE (riribl @ Apr 12 2008, 07:00 AM) *
I post this just for share ^^;;

TO ELF/ EVERLASTING FRIENDS

Credit: Multiply + FLAWLESS


I seriously thank you for this, now I know I'm not the only one. I have read this from top to bottom and I swear that all of you should too.. And because my brain isn't ELF-WASHED (lol! so much win!) I will react to this, those who read but are too afraid to reply back is yet again, ELF-WASHED! Like how could you skip this post when it is so much true and meaningful!?? Are your brain really that ELF-WASHED? Geeez, snap out of your senses for once! This post wasn't a troll at all, it's a letter signed,sealed and delivered for everybody to open their eyes wider than the ELF does..

THIS GUY, HIS LETTER, IS BY FAR THE MOST RESPECTFUL LETTER BY AN ANGRY MAN I HAVE EVER READ IN MY LIFE!
Like how could you be this respectful when you're mad? He did make sure he didn't use cuss words.. And that's what made me adore him more! He summed it all up in the best possible words an angry man can ever come up with.. (I couldn't have done that!) Very well done! And I still can't get over the fact that this was written by a man! What more if this was written by our very own Super Junior? (WHO ARE MEN) I salute whoever wrote this! Because even if he was mad, his manners was there (If you couldn't see it, it's because you didn't read it all!),unlike me who could've just said bad words out and about. I was left astonished by this awesome letter and I definitely agree and believe in everything that he said! I'm saying this and I myself am a Chinese.

So calling out all those who hasn't been ELF-WASHED (LOL!) yet, it's not yet too late to snap out of it! And yes like the letter sender stated, he is perfectly aware that none of what he said will change ELF's minds, he was being sincerely considerate about the consequences of what he wrote, HE IS SO SMART! This is so much so much win! I'm clapping my hands so hard right now!

But of course, you guys here will all just be "OMG! DON'T REPLY TO THAT POST!", hahaha, I can imagine your faces! rolleyes.gif You should all be ashamed of yourselves!

QUOTE (clicheterms @ Apr 13 2008, 05:58 PM) *
tell this guy he is my new best friend.

so when someone bashes someone else, it means that they're in an emotional state and shouldn't be taken seriously? oh, then i guess when only13 supporters bash henry and zhoumi they shouldn't be taken seriously either. maybe that's why sm kept them '~'
no one failed to notice that chanting isn't always a personal attack, except when it is, such as mouth.
also, idek if you actually read what he wrote 'cause you seem to have missed the point. he admired these dedicated fans and defended them until now when he realized how malicious they're being. so why would he be "biased"?
(people usually address an audience on the assumption that they're older to show respect.)
some don't hate henry or zhoumi, but i see much evidence otherwise. you're right; it's sm's fault, and i know many only13 supporters understand that. but, um, see, zhoumi and henry aren't in suju - they're in a subgroup. in china. super junior is still 13 members. so what do they say they're protesting about again?
to people who think that his mentioning "suicide" is overboard: no, i think he's perfectly on topic. you may have forgotten that it was members of elf who terrorized lee eunji to suicide. he's drawing a parallel, and this is why he names them as murderers.

<3 tiffo


THANK YOU! ANOTHER PERSON WHO KNOWS WHAT TO BELIEVE IN AND STAND UP FOR IT! We should be friends..smile.gif

Haha, I noticed how the main thread is getting ditched, lol! They're losing it.. I'm going to treat SUJU-M as the new Super Junior! They are so gonna rule in China!
e ; c h o .
QUOTE (fallenframes @ Apr 13 2008, 09:02 PM) *
here's another of kyuhyun...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mx1Hd8OEVM

LMAO Kyuhyun. <33
laugh.gif

QUOTE (miss scarlett @ Apr 13 2008, 10:02 PM) *
Come on. We wouldn't want Super Junior to turn out like Britney Spears, do we? laugh.gif

But whatever happened, happened, and I wish SJM good luck in China.
And I hope they go to Taiwan & HK, lol.

The first thing I though of when I saw the word "Britney Spears" and "Super Junior" was
the with shaved heads... O.O

HK please. ^-^
I want to hear Henry speak Canto.
zkunninglookz
QUOTE (angelteuk @ Apr 13 2008, 06:45 AM) *
I saw some old vids of Zhou Mi singing in contests?..

Hmm. I think, He deserves to be in SJ-M. as i've read on the previous posts. He is a hardworking person. So this is the output of it. He's a member now of SJ-M.. Many people are bashing him. and im kinda upset about it.

I am a ONLY13 fan and will always be.. but, im an ordinary person too. If my hardwork paid off.. I'll be so happy.. and if people will criticize me because i achieved something. then that's their problem anymore.

>.<

i think ELF are upset becuz by giving others the "suju" name would probably automatically give them popularity..the original 13 members of suju worked hard to be so popular and suddenly 2 other ppl gets added and becomes popular thru the name and hardwork of the original 13.that's probably one of the reasons why they're upset. It's like a group project in school. All the students are contributing, but there's 1 student that doesn't do anything but gets the credit anyway...I will AGREE that zhou-mi is working hard, but people(ELF/suju fans) would like it better if he debut solo or in a NEW grp, rather than stick to suju. By adding him to suju(M), it SEEMS like he's taking advantage of suju's fame..but of course, WE ALL KNOW IT'S LSM'S DECISION to put him in there. Some of us realize that and therefore accept zhoumi and henry, and some other people(ELF) probably realize that too, and are trying to get them out of suju by doing protests hoping that LSM will listen.They probably bash to try to get their point across. I mean, how do u put up a good argument with LSM if u praised zhoumi?..."LSM!!, Zhou-mi is a great guy and needs to get out of SUJU!"?..lol.
.well, i guess they coulda said something like "Zhou-mi is a great guy and has the ability to go solo, so take him out of suju!!"
And i agree it's wrong to bash the 2 guys but not all ELF are bashing the 2 guys. Just cuz a couple of the ELFs bash them, don't mean ALL of them are..Remember the time when Suju was at the chinese airport, and some of the chinese ELFs were grabing them and pushing them and such? well,not all ELFs(or chinese ELFs) do that. Its just some people are crazy..XD..i think the general ELF said not to do that again..or somding like dat..XD..and not ALL antis have a scheme to pour poison in yunho's drink. so, it 'd be nice if everyone stopped stereotyping everyone just becuz they belong in a group. =)


QUOTE (hangbok_2007 @ Apr 13 2008, 10:48 PM) *
CherryBlossom81

I think you're right. This whole ordeal is making suju have some spotlight. I think LSM knew this was coming lol.
Hmm I'll start to need to buy suju m stuff when it comes out.



LSM is a genius.
maharu.
I shall<3 I'll go dig up some nice cute fluffy henry pictures so it'll be perfect<3 he can also be called marshmellow boyxD
lol he sounds very delicious.

And miss scarlett, I'm not saying I agree with LSM, I'm just not to the point that I feel like opposing his plans.
CherryBlossom81
Miss Scarlett, I did not say that the fans did not help SUJU get successful, I said that the only-13 fans (Koreans fans mostly) are not the ONLY fans that could support SUJU, so if they do not want to support SUJU because of SJM, then there will always be OTHER fans! You can find consumers anywhere. There will always be consumers.

No they do not need the old fans because the old fans will NEVER support SJM!

I was comparing them to Britney only in the sense that with the drama that Britney has been through, even if her faithful fans stop supporting her, she can make new fans. The same with SUJU, if only-13 fans do not support them because of the 2 new members, it does not matter because there are still fans besides them to support them.


But I do agree that I really do want SJM to do well! smile.gif

zkunninglookz, but some fans should realize that LSM (SM) owns the name SUJU, they can do what they want with it.


And Zhou Mi and Henry work just as hard too! Plus of course LSM would use the fame of SUJU, that is a tactic. Look at Justin Timberlake, I am sure the fame of him being in Nsync helped alot in his career.
wowow00
QUOTE (hangbok_2007 @ Apr 13 2008, 10:16 PM) *
I shall<3 I'll go dig up some nice cute fluffy henry pictures so it'll be perfect<3 he can also be called marshmellow boyxD
lol he sounds very delicious.

And miss scarlett, I'm not saying I agree with LSM, I'm just not to the point that I feel like opposing his plans.



hhahaha marshemellow
make one for me and name it dumplings ^^

QUOTE (essayistic @ Apr 13 2008, 10:12 PM) *
I seriously thank you for this, now I know I'm not the only one. I have read this from top to bottom and I swear that all of you should too.. And because my brain isn't ELF-WASHED (lol! so much win!) I will react to this, those who read but are too afraid to reply back is yet again, ELF-WASHED! Like how could you skip this post when it is so much true and meaningful!?? Are your brain really that ELF-WASHED? Geeez, snap out of your senses for once! This post wasn't a troll at all, it's a letter signed,sealed and delivered for everybody to open their eyes wider than the ELF does..

THIS GUY, HIS LETTER, IS BY FAR THE MOST RESPECTFUL LETTER BY AN ANGRY MAN I HAVE EVER READ IN MY LIFE!
Like how could you be this respectful when you're mad? He did make sure he didn't use cuss words.. And that's what made me adore him more! He summed it all up in the best possible words an angry man can ever come up with.. (I couldn't have done that!) Very well done! And I still can't get over the fact that this was written by a man! What more if this was written by our very own Super Junior? (WHO ARE MEN) I salute whoever wrote this! Because even if he was mad, his manners was there (If you couldn't see it, it's because you didn't read it all!),unlike me who could've just said bad words out and about. I was left astonished by this awesome letter and I definitely agree and believe in everything that he said! I'm saying this and I myself am a Chinese.

So calling out all those who hasn't been ELF-WASHED (LOL!) yet, it's not yet too late to snap out of it! And yes like the letter sender stated, he is perfectly aware that none of what he said will change ELF's minds, he was being sincerely considerate about the consequences of what he wrote, HE IS SO SMART! This is so much so much win! I'm clapping my hands so hard right now!

But of course, you guys here will all just be "OMG! DON'T REPLY TO THAT POST!", hahaha, I can imagine your faces! rolleyes.gif You should all be ashamed of yourselves!



THANK YOU! ANOTHER PERSON WHO KNOWS WHAT TO BELIEVE IN AND STAND UP FOR IT! We should be friends..smile.gif

Haha, I noticed how the main thread is getting ditched, lol! They're losing it.. I'm going to treat SUJU-M as the new Super Junior! They are so gonna rule in China!


can you tell me what page that was posted on???
fallenframes
QUOTE (baoi @ Apr 13 2008, 11:00 PM) *
this group looks very SMEXY..
never knew much about Henry or ZM,
but i want to know more.. ZM is reallllly cute (in the picture)

come visit the ZHOUMI THREAD
edit. just saw you post in there, haha.

lmao @ tofu.
he's gonna get eaten one day.
zkunninglookz
QUOTE (wowow00 @ Apr 13 2008, 11:26 PM) *
hhahaha marshemellow
make one for me and name it dumplings ^^



can you tell me what page that was posted on???

its on page 113.

QUOTE (essayistic @ Apr 13 2008, 11:12 PM) *
I seriously thank you for this, now I know I'm not the only one. I have read this from top to bottom and I swear that all of you should too.. And because my brain isn't ELF-WASHED (lol! so much win!) I will react to this, those who read but are too afraid to reply back is yet again, ELF-WASHED! Like how could you skip this post when it is so much true and meaningful!?? Are your brain really that ELF-WASHED? Geeez, snap out of your senses for once! This post wasn't a troll at all, it's a letter signed,sealed and delivered for everybody to open their eyes wider than the ELF does..

THIS GUY, HIS LETTER, IS BY FAR THE MOST RESPECTFUL LETTER BY AN ANGRY MAN I HAVE EVER READ IN MY LIFE!
Like how could you be this respectful when you're mad? He did make sure he didn't use cuss words.. And that's what made me adore him more! He summed it all up in the best possible words an angry man can ever come up with.. (I couldn't have done that!) Very well done! And I still can't get over the fact that this was written by a man! What more if this was written by our very own Super Junior? (WHO ARE MEN) I salute whoever wrote this! Because even if he was mad, his manners was there (If you couldn't see it, it's because you didn't read it all!),unlike me who could've just said bad words out and about. I was left astonished by this awesome letter and I definitely agree and believe in everything that he said! I'm saying this and I myself am a Chinese.

So calling out all those who hasn't been ELF-WASHED (LOL!) yet, it's not yet too late to snap out of it! And yes like the letter sender stated, he is perfectly aware that none of what he said will change ELF's minds, he was being sincerely considerate about the consequences of what he wrote, HE IS SO SMART! This is so much so much win! I'm clapping my hands so hard right now!

But of course, you guys here will all just be "OMG! DON'T REPLY TO THAT POST!", hahaha, I can imagine your faces! rolleyes.gif You should all be ashamed of yourselves!



THANK YOU! ANOTHER PERSON WHO KNOWS WHAT TO BELIEVE IN AND STAND UP FOR IT! We should be friends..smile.gif

Haha, I noticed how the main thread is getting ditched, lol! They're losing it.. I'm going to treat SUJU-M as the new Super Junior! They are so gonna rule in China!


...um...i don't recall seeing a post in THIS thread that said "OMG don't reply to that post"..i think u must be talking about the suju-13 thread...cuz i remember seeing those words there..XD
In fact, most of us in this thread LOVE the letter. I myself too LOVe that letter, as it expresses all of my feelings regarding SUJU-M and ELF too. there's only 1 thing i didn't like about the letter, and its the suicide thing. there's really no proof that ELF caused the girl to suicide. Maybe people who were PART of ELF may have left some mean remarks on her website(or watever), but like i said before, don't stereotype it as ELF's idea to bash the girl. It was just a couple of fans.(i don't know the exact number of suju fans that bashed the girl but i'm 100% sure that not all of ELF did that). The letter is awesome and literally well written. It does a GREAT job in making the ELF's look bad WITHOUT bashing them. Not that i WANT the ELFs to look bad, i'm just saying the author has an incredible writing ability.

I too, am getting weary of ELF's actions and thoughtS sometime too. I don't have a problem with their PRO-13 protests, but the reasons that they GIVE for the protest seems kinda...weird. SOME ELF claim that they KNOW SUJU-13 do NOT want to add 2 new members, as if they could read the guys' minds, and i find it ridic. Whenever the guy's say someding nice about adding ppl, they always say LSM forced them to say it...etc etc..i mean, do we REALLY know??..do ELF really know?..only the boys and LSM know. The reason why they should have the protests is only becuz of one thing, becausy THEY, the consumers, don't want it. They shouldn't put words into the guys' mouth and say THEY(the guys) don't want 2 new members.

I've been going back and forth this thread and the suju 13 thread trying to spread some good points about pro13 and pro7, and encouraging them to stick with their beliefs..XD..i'm weird.I like suju-M and i'm also encouragin pro-13 ppl to stick to their pro13 protests..XD what i wanna say is, BELIEVE IN WATEVER U GUYS WANT TO BELIEVE, AND LET OTHERS BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY WANNA BELIEVE.and let weirdos(me) do what they wanna do, as long as it dont hurt nobody.XDaltho i'm kind of sad that i might have made 13!hyukjae stop coming to this thread by encouragin her to support suju-13...or becuz she read the "suju-M 2 years rumor" and got really upset at that. I think i'm trying to be a MEDIATOR..XD..it's fun cuz i'm in BOTH sides of the argument. Whenever someone says something mean about PRO-7 ppl, i try to fight for them. Wheneevr some ppl say mean things about pro13 ppl, i fight for them too.
miss scarlett
THE APPA AND UMMA OF SJM. ^^
YOU KNOW YOU LOVE THEM.
HIIIIII SHIHAAAAAN. ^^


ee-bbeun-ee
^ahaha...look at there hands. lmao^^ their hands are
so tightly locked together. ahaha..i love the two
coupling^^ hmm...so which one is the mother?
and which one is the fathr??? lol.
wowow00
QUOTE (ee-bbeun-ee @ Apr 13 2008, 10:38 PM) *
^ahaha...look at there hands. lmao^^ their hands are
so tightly locked together. ahaha..i love the two
coupling^^ hmm...so which one is the mother?
and which one is the fathr??? lol.



hahaha
i would say the mother is hankyung and the father is siwon LMAO
strawberry78
^
^
^
holding handssss aw shihan (I agree wowow00)

QUOTE (li-mei @ Apr 13 2008, 10:08 PM) *
It was last year in June, but let's not talk about it anymore. >_>
I'm sketching out the SJM members for fun! I've started drawing Ryeowook...but then I realized that I drew his body too big so I've decided to start over. It's been a long while since I've pulled myself away from photoshop and actually started pencil sketching. Eeep, but school starts tomorrow again...I probably won't have time to finish until exams are over.
QUOTE (asdfxkathy @ Apr 13 2008, 10:24 PM) *
you draw? that's cool. i do too. smile.gif
i drew ryeowook once about a month ago. and it actually came out pretty similar to the original picture.
and i was going to draw the rest of the SuJu members, but i only got to sungmin before i stopped because of time. D:

You must share!! I wanna see ^^

QUOTE (hangbok_2007 @ Apr 13 2008, 10:43 PM) *
Although I'm just a supporter of suju m and the members, I think like a poster filled with many people's comments and mixing it well with his pictures would
sound awsome=] haha just a suggestion!

I wanna send Zhoumi a birthday present :'(
Too bad it's not really possible..... he will need a bday thread or something... =)

essayistic I think most of us here do agree with that guys letter, many have even said so. The only thing is, only 13's come in here and use the opportunity to defend themselves, thus creating arguments... which we do not want. Yes this is a SJ-M thread but we can't offend the only 13 people ._.

Anyways..............

(My lame little scenario)


Donghae: Henry no! I thought you were mine :'(
Ryeowook: I don't know if I'm comfortable with this... Zhoumi? Help...
Kyuhyun: I wonder why Zhoumi won't look at me... he must like Ryeowook more afterall .__.


To everyone referring to Henry's cheeks as marshmellows, dumplings, mochi, etc. You're making me want to squish and eat his cheeks at the same time =p
They're so doughy I would never be able to keep my hands off them. haha.
Tri Angle
QUOTE (zkunninglookz @ Apr 13 2008, 11:15 PM) *
i think ELF are upset becuz by giving others the "suju" name would probably automatically give them popularity..the original 13 members of suju worked hard to be so popular and suddenly 2 other ppl gets added and becomes popular thru the name and hardwork of the original 13.


That's mainly the reason why I became an ONLY13 supporter, yet I still love Henry (gotta love mochi) and ZhouMi (he's growing on me, after seeing his other emotions other then that shivering stare). Those in China who aren't fans, but know Super Junior, will immediately think of that large group in Korea with the first Chinese to be such a huge success and popularity (do you not see what Hangeng's fans do in his name o_O).

Anyways, I really wish that those who are ONLY13 and PRO7 aren't always judging a book by its cover. I mean not all ONLY13 fans should be bashed and same goes for PRO7. Yet, I think my small peace offering shall not be heard by anyone, seeing as there are always at least one or two people who just go ahead and start the war all over again. The moment there is peace, I skip a couple of post and next thing we all know, the whole 'must stab them!' begins again.

Edit >>>

OMG! Hangeng is now proud mama and Siwon is proud papa.
Leeteuk and Kangin are now grandparents!
I'll share my theory here.

Siwon visited China when Hangeng had visa problems (they're already married!). They had adopted a child and his name is ZhouMi. Then they had to leave ZhouMi in the care of LSM because they had to get ready for the 2nd album. Henry, they learned was their nephew, since Sungmin had adopted him along with Kyuhyun (my theory from the Sungmin hugging Henry picture). Soon, after all promotions for Don't Don and Marry U were done, they were finally reunited with their ZhouMi. BUT! They couldn't return to China and spend a happy family life together because it might bring suspicions. So with the help of LSM, a new sub-unit was created to hide the fact that they were a family trying to run away! Defintely Hangeng, Siwon, and ZhouMi were going to be in the group. LSM decided to throw Henry in too because he's Chinese. Then Kyuhyun had to come along because Henry was still the baby and needed love from his papa. But because papa still needed to be monitor just in case of his health, Donghae was sent along by Sungmin to watch over him. Then they figured that 7 would be a cooler number and just in case Donghae was a nutcase, Ryeowook was sent along as the nanny. AND THAT IS THE FORMATION OF SJM!

All the while, back in Korea, Leeteuk and Kangin are being called daily by both Hangeng and Siwon because they're new at the parenting thing and need help. =D
vohuynhthao
i have a few questions :

WHy they change member when performing in China?
What happen to Kibum , heechul, and other original members?
thnanks
yunchikan
QUOTE (miss scarlett @ Apr 13 2008, 08:02 PM) *
But whatever happened, happened, and I wish SJM good luck in China.
And I hope they go to Taiwan & HK, lol.

it'll be nice if they go to HK =]] xDDDDD
if only i get to go there when they're there XDDDD

QUOTE (miss scarlett @ Apr 13 2008, 08:34 PM) *
THE APPA AND UMMA OF SJM. ^^
YOU KNOW YOU LOVE THEM.
HIIIIII SHIHAAAAAN. ^^

[img]http://i28.tinypic.com/sgsb28.jpg
[img]http://i28.tinypic.com/21d3677.jpg

<3333 thanks for sharing XDDDDDD
but too bad i really miss HanChul ;__;
o well xD ShiHan makes up for it xDDDDD
hyun_binnie
they look hott in those pictures.
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