Henry is not good at Chinese at all, according to wat I know, he even can't speak Chinese fluently so either HanKyung or ZhouMi will be the one who in charge of talking, answering the question in the interviews

Han spoke hesitatntly in chinese maybe because at that time he didn't know how to ans the question or express him self, not because he are not fluent in Chinese. After all he is Chinese, was born in China, grew up there and Chinese is his mother language

well, that's good to know! i'm sorry for not discussing sjm. kk.
i can't wait for their new album. it's 'mi', right? i hope it's not a ballad. although ballad is not bad, i just like a happy upbeat song better.

i'm quite excited about them.. ^^
siwon and donghae's video seems really nice..
hankyung's, too.. ^^

will the 2 new guys be included in super junior's future projects as well??

and yeah!! kibum has no sub grp!! ;/

thought id share:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bkqVTEm0HjE
somewhere henry has a..... yeah :]
*hint hint*

According to more than one fan account he can speak Chinese fluently enough and it was one of the reasons he got casted in by the auditions. Either way we wont' know for sure until the interview on the 9th.

There will be ballads in the album, but their promo singles will not be for sure.
Super Junior-M's style is exactly the same as Super Junior's style - pop, dance, R&B. The only difference is that they will be singing songs in Mandarin instead of Korean.

People who knew Henry personally, from what I remember, said that Henry could not speak Chinese (Mandarin) fluently. Maybe during Henry's training in Korea he made improvements in his Chinese. (Ironic yeah lol)




I understand that a lot of ONLY13 supporters are disappointed at what SM has given us. I am too.
But please DO NOT bash Henry or Zhoumi here. It is not the place.

Still four more days to go ^^

I was never really against SJ CHINA to begin with. I just ignored it. I was expecting maybe a THIRD SJ album after E.H.B and their Asia Tour, nah but instead it's SJM. Like many others I don't like the idea of adding two "new" members but I guess we just have to accept it.

The BEST THING ABOUT THIS IS --- that after they officially debut THEY WILL COME TO CHINA MORE OFTEN which means that I might be able to SEE THEM EVERY SUMMER! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! In the end it's all about us fans XD

Although I,m very disappointed that Yesung isn't a part of SJM, I,m cheering for Ryeo Kyu & Donghae to shine more in the spotlight =) I hope that all of them will become good friends. XD

Super Junior eM Me neM! GO~!

@nhbsakakude ^^ Their Manderin is really good, plus Henry can probably speak Cantonese too. And XD why did you even mentioned Siwon in this? He only knows some basic Manderin to begin with.

In one of those fan account, incidentally, he said not to trust those people who said knew him personally XD So I'd rather just wait to see myself.

Yup..That's y i said that they added chinese members cos of tat...
Out of SJ,only siwon and hankyung can speak chinese,even if its basic..

I can't wait to hear their korean accent in chinese song..XD

Lol...Someone in the US should send in one of Henry's Violin playing videos to the Ellen Degeneres show. That way, if he gets featured in the show, and he makes SuJu more well known, then no one will be mad at him anymore...

He really doesn't deserve all of the anger that's being directed at him. ((

I can't do anything right now.

Finally SJM debut and I'll try to accept.

The preview is so cool. Everyone looks good.

I know right!!!?? But that's a bit impossible you know.. Especially now that Henry is considered as a celeb in China or Korea?? Ellen acknowledges unknowns on her show.. Or so I think? Errr. Whatever, he has already established the career he wants.. Or not?! Oh gosh, I'm so nonsense.. I also hope they put NO BASHING on the first page.. Just so that we could lessen the tension here.. Just saying..

i'm looking forward to their debut.. hope they come to Hong Kong HAHA
i'm not so sure about zhoumi but Henry is very talented i want to see more of him..

anyhow.. am loving the teasers.. but not really digging the "rewinding" parts.. o.o

I think SM should've found a new way to debut the trainees instead of throwing them in as a branch of Super Junior...I feel bad for the boys (trainees) when they gain anti-fans because they're put into Super Junior-.-;;

Just saw all the little previews of the members being revealed...I'm gonna give Henry and ZhouMi a chance, they're just in a sub-group so i'm not going to make a big deal out of it.
Are Donghae, siwon, kyu, and wookie gonna sing in mandarin too?? Its gonna sound so awkward xDD maybe they'll sing more in english..who knows =P I want to hear one of their songs now >.<

They're all going to sing in Mandarin.
They're now considered a CPOP group.

Sorry if my posts made you uncomfortable.
But you have to understand, to a lot of Chinese fans, ZM is already known.
He has been on a reality show MC competition, he has failed to become a big star as others had for a reason. Why did you think he joined SM?
Its because people got to know him that they became antis, otherwise they wouldn't oppose him as much as they did.
The ZM antis quadrupled after he MCed ZRI's MV promotional conference.
A lot of those people are accepting of Henry but not ZM for a reason.

Henry is a nice boy but he needs to change his Bio. A lot of antis will go away if his biography is different.
The reason the Cantonese/Taiwan mix is such a bad comment is because to 99% of Chinese, HongKong and Taiwan are both China.
To them its like saying that you are a mix of California and Texas or that you are against an unified China.

i just can't wait to hear their first single somehow..
well, good luck to themm
as super junior big family..
^^

hey may I ask what MC competition he was in?
There must be reasons he has as many antis as you say he has
cos I think those shows, fans are pretty shallow, and since zhou mi is good looking, you would think most of them would like him ....so what's wrong with him?

what year was the contest?

I wanna search up clips of him lol

I don't know where you would find clips now.
But he has been in and out of reality competition since 2002. (2002 MTV new singer competition)
He finally gave up on 2006/2007 and joined SM, audiences weren't liking him.
This is the MC competition 2006年CCTV挑战主持人 (2006 CCTV MC competition)
As most Chinese know, CCTV is one of the largest and most influential TV stations in China.

He just have never been able to have fans until his "rumored SJ-C member" last year.
Then a lot of girls found him attractive from his pics, Chinese KangTa & SiWon, "a prettier SiWon".
But most of his current antis are people who either those who saw him live at ZRI's MV thing or those who saw him in Korea.

awwhh yay! im so glad they went through with it ^^
i dont mind sub groups since it gives each member more time in the spotlight
to show off their talents

man....is his personality that unappealing? I mean I'm not really a fan of him, yet so many ppl are (such shallow ppl )
I mean he hasn't perf yet, and based on his singing clip, his voice doesn't seem that good
why wasn't he popular? On those chinese shows personality is pretty important eh? Cos for supergirls, heaps of the popular ppl are liked cos they have appealing personalities, and it's not the best looking that wins.

but woah....he must have been on at least 3 diff singing shows haha how sad
I'm SURE he had *some* fans before right??

jumyuk looks like shiwon
omomommmmommmo........

w0w haha first time ever here in SJ-M official thread.

lots of news and updates now ^^v thanks.

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anyways just allow me to post a reply on this kinda weird question ^^v




BOTH we love them not just because of their looks but also of their songs.

BUT to tell we pretty don't care at all if Henry nor Zhoumi is blah blah or something even better than them because for us fans who keep supporting the ONLY13 its really hard to accept that someone goin` to be added. We do only prepare to support the 13 no more no less. IF ever that this kind of stuff just goin` to ignored by ELF's or any fans out there. THEN there must be the possibility that LSM might do a move again to keep on adding and adding...in that case not just in SJ and MIGHT BE also done on his other trainers (like DBSK SNSD and etc. belongs into a groups).

so I DO AGREE w/ hyukkie

IF LSM decided to add a new member in DBSK is it so okay/welcome to you? if YES then will its you own ideas at alL.


------peace.


hmm will then i got interested to their album(only) i want to hear Wookie singing in Mandarin that must be so cute

for him.^^v

QUOTE

Don't get it! What's wrong with just adding some members?
Come on? I don't know why but went i see people talking bad about the new members i just blew up!
And eventually let me ASK you guys this question

YOU LOVE THEM FOR THE LOOKS? OR DO YOU LOVE FOR THEIR MUSIC?

Henry is very talented and you guys should be happy that his joining the group.
So i don't get it why you guys are hating Henry so much.

-Jaejoongx3

tousaka is completely right and jaejoongx will you
be okay if someone new that you never knew about is added
into dbsk??? someone strange that never went through what dbsk
went through and who just doesn't fit and just came right in when
everything was good for dbsk and taking all the glory without doing
anything themselves as of now?? because that's exactly E X A C T L Y
what henry and zhou whatever is doing. I believe they are good artists
but there are always new groups made, no need for them to join something
that doen't welcome them. if they made a new group i believe that they
will have much more supporters than what they have now, which are mostly
based of antis.

it's not about the looks OR the music, that's not the point, it's just basically
that they are an outsider and us fans have stayed and watched over suju
for over two years and these two people that have never heard of suddenly
pops in without a warning, how should we feel? if the exactly same thing happened
to dbsk and some random guy or two was put in and it's not only 5 perfect
members but 5 perfect members plus 2 or 3 STRANGE people. I will then support
ONLY5

do you understand?

gosh... i wouldn't count this as spam because there's so many people here blaming
us ONLY13 supporters and saying how we are close minded and saying bad stuff
about us. so my post is only to show them WHY we think like this. if they can say
whatever they are saying, i think i should be able too. it's not like i'm bashing the
two anyways.



but as of now, as long as they aren't added to SUPER JUNIOR and only in one of
the subgroups i guess i can overlook the two because come on ^^ suju! ~~~~~
donghae i've been waiting for him to take some main parts since he is so great~
i guess he will be the lead dancer? or hankyung? but happy me!

-Rebecca

^ you're right
but I don't think it's necessary that just bc of 'only 13'
ppl are treating henry like crap
well am (for some) and were (for majority)

first time here!
can talk freely abt them w/out getting bashed right?

anw am really excited and cun wait to see them perform!
love the Suju boys too much not to support them.
aish, its just a sub-group no?

watever ppl say abt henry, i don't really care too much.
seeing is believing! got to give the boy a fair chance!
lets see what he's got other than playing the cool violin!
as for zhoumi, well, am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

so, is kyu still the magnae of this new group?

From what I have seen and heard, the audiences didn't care for him that much.
The general consensus I got from people is that he just seemed too arrogant, loves attention, kind of like those high school jocks who knew how hot and popular they were and showed it.
You are right, he has been in tons of singing competitions/reality shows, he just never really got any real fans.
99.99% of the fans he has now are because of his link to SJ and SiWon and not because of his personality or previous competitions.

I think if he and SM is smart, he'll probably blend in the background for a while and come out in full force like they planned after a few month.

WHY? OH WHY?
Are you still discussing about adding ppl to Super Junior?

THAT IS OFF TOPIC!!!
STICK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND & that's about SJM.

It's annoying reading ppl talk about Super Junior & how you guys want to keep them as only13. Seriously we get it but don't discuss it here, cause in a way your belittling Henry & ZhouMi. Whom are SJM members.

In Suju he's still the magnae but in Suju-M Henry's the magnae.

Kyuhyun: feb '88
Henry: oct '89

Kyuhyun gets to be a hyung this time

Yeeeeh!

I hope that those group will grow more popular en being nicely then with all those anti's to 2 new members.
Cause, in begin i though that it will not be good cause of LSM and harrast Henry and ZhouMi until i though about RyeoWook's attention and himself to open more and not only for money, just like SuJu-T and KRY.
So i really hope that those band will be giving lots of LOVE by fans! And for Henry and zhoumi Too!

My friends from China told me some information about Zhou Mi. Its true, he does have alot of antis because of
his attitude. Apparently, hes really "cocky" and "self absorbed". I dont know whether these are true but I dont
think any of us should judge Zhou Mi at all right now... These are "rumors" that I've heard or read online so we
cant be positive unless we see him on interviews, videos, etc. ^^ I think we all should be more opened minded
and disregard the negative aspects of either Henry or Zhoumi that we have read or heard from others. We cant
judge them when we havent even seen these guys debut yet. Just my thoughts.

At first I was mad, really mad..how could SM do this to us? to SUJU....but reconsidering, SM just wants to help Henry, ZM debut. SM is aiming to expand in the China market, and since they are talened, and can speak fluent Chinese, they are perfect trainees to choose. SM basically just hopes that the popularity of SUJU will help to make a successful debut for those two. I think SJM is a long-planned project of SM, so there nothing we can do to call it off. Hope LSM would be smart enough not adding Henry and SM to our precious 13 !!! And I don't think this will ever happen. Just think SJM as a new group that some of SUJU members are a part of. It has nothing to do with our 13 SUJU. Through the debut clip, I can see Henry and ZM will be good. Give them a chance, E.L.F don't have to be SMJ, and in reverse, SMJ'S fans don't have to be E.L.F . SMJ is just merely one of the many new music group forming everyday in Asia, give them love if you like their music and styles, walk away if you don't ,that's all, nothing more. Just my thoughts.

My... my.... lots of tension huh...

anyway just got home and there i see
the clips.. wohoo.. no suprise for the members LoL
lucky seven.. well like lucky thirteen? xD
i think it's fun.. might attribut them the seven days of the week

and so far.. the best clip to me is HaeWon or SiHae (how ever you call it xP)!!
amasingly soooo coool~ ^o^
Hankyung's clip is cool too..
but yeah.. i still stick to my top 2
and solo.. like he'll be the leader or something? x)

Now i'll just be waiting for the clip to see how it was filmed and so on ^.^

yeah i reckon the rewinding part gets kinda annoying
but its IMO :]
donghae breakdancing

And I wonder why is it ok for people to come here and keep discussing about ONLY13 blah blah blah and how much you dont support Henry and Zhoumi or how they will NEVER be part of super junior (which is ironic since ithey are in a sub unit lol), its sad how we have to stand all this but if we go to the main suju thread and talk about them we get told off.

Lets be fair and keep the peace please. I know a lot of only13 will come here because after all there are 5 members from Super Junior in this unit, but be respectful please.

keep your only13 comments for the main thread, some of us DO support all members from SJ-M and its like getting in our toes =/

either way, if some of you are actually supporters of THE WHOLE GROUP, drop by sjchina LJ community, you will feel understood and happy to know everyone in there feels the same way about the boys <3


hahahhaha! I love how Hangeng is all leader shi <3333!
and LOL at Kyu's and Henry's video XDDDD
Gotta say my fav. was Hangeng's and SiHae's vid lol lol, both SO cool.


edit;


ANYONE can discuss about this group, I just wished the only13 comments being dropped since this thread wasn't made for this, as well as the 'HENRY AND ZHOUMI ARE NOT SUJU' thing. Is offensive for supporters like me and pretty much bashing. And no, we shouldn't be dealing with it, this is the place to discuss and support our gasoos in a positive way.


ugh... I wont even bother coming to this thread anymore.
what was I thinking? this thread isn't even ran by SJM supporters.
if fairness don't apply here, then there's no point in this thread, SJM supporters get shut down everywehere (in suju fandom) and yet we 'have to deal' with all the crap here too, is just sad and angers me.

IMPORTANT
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This is La'MISS:fairy (only now, not always)
Too many pages to read, no time to do it,
so I'll just reply to the last one.


This thread was created for both pro-sjm people and ONLY13 fans to discuss SJM.

As we too have a life and we definitely can not be online 24/7, nor edit users' posts (let alone control their minds), supporters of SJM will have to deal with this. If things get out of hand, I'm going to request for this thread to get closed for a period of time to allow you people to relax a bit, calm down and get ahold of yourselves. As much as I myself would love to get into an adorably heated argument and say what I like and dislike about this sub-unit, I don't do it here. It's called common sense, manners and education. Be civil, please. If you want to bash so and so, or say how much you do not want this to happen: please do it somewhere else (another forum where it is allowed, or your own personal blog). Same goes for pro-sjm people, if you want to accuse ONLY13 fans of boycotting and being ungrateful and insensitive: go somewhere else.

Drop all arguments NOW, or it won't be pretty.

Do we seriously have to go as far as creating a forum where people can ARGUE about the new sub-unit? Please stop now.

Hankyung looks SMOKING hot!

Their album's gonna be amazing. I'm so anticipating. Just a few more days. I hope YesAsia, sells the album.

Thanks to so those people for keeping the place updated and "clean"

I'm really hoping to hear Henry sing, I mean I've heard everyone else although I will enjoy hearing them in Mandarin but I've never seen Henry sing so I'm really looking forward to it.

haha when i first looked at jumyuk's picture i thought he looked like changmin...but yahh i agree with people that he looks like siwon....
i still like henry better thoe..we'll see soon when they finally debut together~

im being nice lol im not a henry and zhou mi hater.
but i do want suju to stay 13

exactly~ this is for BOTH ONLY13 and ONLY13+others
so why is it that we have to stop? it's not like we are bashing
them O.o just stating what we think. just like you none
ONLY13 supporters, showing what you think by you know,
saying that ELF is crazy and all.

but anyways~ we can still talk, free world O.o just no bashing
not like we did, did you guys ever see 'OMG HENRY IS @#$@#
OR ZHOU something... (i need learn his name) is @#%@%@%'
we never did that, ONLY13 people do believe that those two are
talented. so don't critisize us and tell us to go away since this thread
is made for both kinds of supporters!

and ohmygod... how i wish that donghae would finish his little
break dance and not have it rewind! how sexy that would be <3
but nop... it had to be rewinded but it's sexy backwards too~ HAHA

edit: just like what the above user said, not hater only a supporter
of ONLY13

plus something esmiux said got me kinda confused o.O i don't get
how ONLY13 people are being unfair ...

but whatever ^^ i can't wait for the MV though~ they needa release news
faster!

-Rebecca

jumyuk looked like kangta in jang ri in's new album conference

since this is my 2nd post, i feel the tensions already.
oh gosh! fans are pointing fingers at each other! how sad.
sorry, but thats the impression i got from reading the prev posts.

i'm a new fan of suju, so i'm still naive abt certain things...
don't want to get caught in-between
hope this thread is not closed for watever reason.

looking forward to their mvs, cos i know its going to be a blast!
shihae or shihan might just be another fave couple of mine..
ah..kyu is now a hyung!

woah okay he does look like Kangta but actually a lil less attractive O_o"
nowww~ I dont get it why some people are saying he will look the best member in suju M -.-
ITS STILL SHIWON! <3 LOL or Donghae xD

yup yup~ zhou ... uh was um the MC thing for
zhang li yin at her showcase thing in china ^^ i was like
DUDE ANOTHER KANGTA! i think he looks more like kangta
than siwon though.

-Rebecca

Wow, so much tension. and I can't believe after so long, SM finally decided on SJ-M.
I'm anxious to see this subgroup! RYEOWOOKIE IS IN ANOTHER SUBGROUP! <333 I can't wait to hear his gorgeous voice.

To me, the new boys are not Super Junior members.
They are just members of SJ-M.
And I mean if SM is putting them out here, they must have talent.
Although I don't agree with their action, I'll still forever support my suju boys no matter what they do, or who they are with!

I can't wait for the release for their songs and mvs!

Zhou Mi's like a chameleon or somethin'. He has the ability to resemble Chang Min, Siwon and Kang Ta. I wonder what face he'll show us next

I've always adored Henry (as a fellow Torontonian), and Zhou Mi reminds me a lot of Changmin, my favourite DBSK member, so lots of love for him as well! <3

I'm really excited for this sub group, I know they'll be FANTASTICAL. Regardless of whether Henry and Zhou Mi will officially join Super Junior, I will always support the group itself and all of its sub groups. To me, being a fan means supporting all groups which encompass any of the members, not just picking and choosing which ones I agree with and which ones I don't.

Awwww, I'm really excited about the new sub group(THEYRE SINGING CHINESE. EEEEEEE! <333 AND HENRY AND ZHOUMI, LOOVe. I want to see more of them. <3) but I don't understand why peoplel constantly have to compare Zhou-mi to every other singer they can think of. I mean, it's nice to be complimenting him but when people start saying that he looks like an UGLIER version of so and so, it is just really mean. D:

And regarding the feuds and stuff between the Only13 people and the Suju China supporters, I think if you have something bad to say about Suju M, you can message and blog about it but not on this thread that's dedicated to people who want to see Suju M and all of their members. The Suju M supporters can't talk about it on the official Super Junior thread, but people who support only13 can come here and talk about how much they hate the new Chinese members and subgroup although the thread's not called the "I-hate-Suju-M" thread, so yeah. I mean, if someone went on the Suju thread and bashed one of the Suju guys, there'd probably be people all over them and the post would probably end up being deleted, but here it's the same thing except bashing of Suju M is ALLOWED? D: That's really not cool. Don't hate them, they're part of Suju too. ;o;