lilcece
Apr 6 2008, 11:05 AM
Rikayla, jennskie, and joycestar0821
AWESOME graphics you guys. they're H.O.T ^^
QUOTE (VikiVicks @ Apr 6 2008, 10:44 AM)
How can you claim that you are a fan of Henry or Zhoumi when they haven't really debut? You don't even know if they can sing well, dance well, or a great entertainer? The only time I saw Henry was as a violin player on Don't Don't! Whether he plays the violin well, I can't even tell. Who knows if that is live? Also Zhoumi, so far, I don't have a good impression of him. I saw him at the ZLY's album showcase. He seems too cocky to me. That's not really SJ's image. My mind is not going to be changed unless they prove otherwise.
The other five we know, because they are part of Super Junior! We know their talent and have been acknowledged for more than 2 years! I agree with a lot of folks, only these five: Hangeng, Ryeowook, Donghae, Siwon, and Kyuhyun are allowed to be associated with the name "Super Junior"! One comment that I read from a fan after she saw the image, cracks me up "The two are porters for the other five!".
For the so call fans of Henry and Zhoumi, don't have to be angry. Internet is free, we get to say what we want, and state our own opinion.
exactly. how can you judge them when they haven't even debut it yet? some of you
guys say that but are already turning into antis without even seeing both ZhouMi &
Henry offically debut. as for me, I don't know anything about ZhouMi, but the reason
why Henry is growing on me is because he actually has talent. whenever he has to
perform, he goes up on stage KNOWING that he has antis. not only that, he plays
with a lot of emotions with his violin and instead of giving up, he only push himself
forward.
QUOTE (13!La'MISS:fairy @ Apr 6 2008, 07:14 AM)
The banner doesn't break the rules,
if it breaks
your heart, that's another thing.
H & ZM break my heart in SJM, so we're even.
QUOTE (Dotar_Kihae~ @ Apr 6 2008, 01:21 PM)
Zhou Mi
i think he so cute but i don't like him T^T
Super Junior only 13!!
QUOTE (rOonGz* @ Apr 6 2008, 02:02 PM)
aaa so handsomee ><
only donghae siwon hangeng kyuhyun and ryeowook ^^
only super junior ^^
so how about we not get this started again alright?
A REMINDER TO BOTH ONLY13 & SJ-M SUPPORTERS...
okay, I seriously need to get this off my chest. I've been trying to hold this in, but guys...
in case some of you haven't notice, this is Super Junior M thread. everyone and anyone can post here...
but it has to be SJM related. I admit, I'm pro ONLY13 but I have absolutely nothing against Henry or Zhou
Mi. as for my opinion on them becoming part of SUJU, I'm still a little uncertain and won't worry about that
until the time comes when SM himself ACTUALLY announce it. but as an E.L.F fan, I find it immature that
some of you are chanting "ONLY13" towards these two, especially in this thread where it's been confirm
that SJM is not Only5. whether you guys like it or not, it is official that Zhou Mi and Henry are debuting as
SUJU-M with the other five, so what can we do about it besides turning against each other and like what
Wendy said, making this situation into WWIII? I mean I understand how you guys feel about this new sub
group. some of you are excited. some of you are angry. some of you are even confused like I am. we can
clearly see who are strongly ONLY13 or SJ-M supporters just by looking at their signatures or comments
on this thread. I know there are a lot of antis here and people who are totally against Henry and Zhou Mi. I
completely have nothing against how you all feel... you guys have the rights to say anything you don't like
and negative about Super Junior M, if it makes you feel better.
JUST. NOT. HERE.
DO NOT post it here. feel free to do it through PMs, on another thread, in another forum, with your friends &
families. anywhere, but here. if possible, I just wish antis at the SUJU-M blog would stop what they're doing.
yeah, this is driving E.L.F crazy but why put all that hate and anger on Henry and Zhou Mi?! Hangeng, Siwon,
Donghae, Ryeowook, and Kyuhyun's feeling matter just as much as E.L.F. do these antis even stop to think
about how the 5 of them feel when seeing these stuff written all over the blog a few days before their debut?
that's just pressuring them more, especially coming from us E.L.F. since we mean EVERYTHING to these
boys... it's not only uncomfortable for them, but for the rest of us too. I see a billion of viewers on this thread,
but I'm sure some of us are afriad or feel really uncomfortable to post here because of these disagreement
about whether Super Junior M should be this or that. if anyone should be blamed, it should be SM himself.
he's the one that's making us all go WT-?! therefore, go to Korea and bash him instead - -
so please. ONLY13 supporters, stop bashing on Henry and ZhouMi. Super Junior M supporters, stop telling
everyone that you want Henry and Zhou Mi in Super Junior. do not come here if you're going to be immature
and post 'ONLY13', making everyone feel uncomfortable. as for SuJu-M supporters, please do not go over to
the Super Junior thread and talk about Henry, Zhou Mi, or adding new members. in addition to signatures, as
long as it's following the soompi rules, don't tell them what their signature should look like. if you feel anyone
breaking the rules, complain it to the moderators. this is a really sensitive topic for us E.L.F, SJ-M, AND Super
Junior. the three of us did NOTHING wrong so again, if you want to rant your anger or blame anyone, please
complain to Lee Soo Man himself. I do not want this thread to shut down because some of you decide to be
immature and decide to bash on our artists. as of right now, we are all anxious about SJ-M's debut & nothing
eles & about the rumors (addition to Super Junior members, Zhou Mi's personality, etc), they will continue to
stay as rumor- so Super Junior M supporters, let's ignore antis and support the seven boys, alright?
Thank you.
Seadajinx
Apr 6 2008, 11:14 AM
^
^
^
THank god thats what i wanna say the most go bashin' somewhere else ,but no here!
(LMAO.this thread has been stalkin' by lots of ppl )
photodaisy
Apr 6 2008, 11:19 AM
*FLAIL* SJM!!!!!
Henry and Zhou Mi. *o*;;;
I was a bit iffy about this but now, I'm kind of excited for a debut? xD I'm just curious as to what they come up with. Besides, they're lookin' good in those new photos in the first post. <333 Shiwon looks beautiful. *o*;;
abercrombiegirl
Apr 6 2008, 11:22 AM
i have a question? so are Henry and Zhou Mi in the group Super Junior? or are they only in Super Junior-M?
and i have to say, Henry is pretty cute!!!
I feel bad for him, cause he have gone throught such harship.
hope he can over come those hardship
Super Junior fighting!!!
love always,
Kitty
kaizer21
Apr 6 2008, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (abercrombiegirl @ Apr 6 2008, 03:22 PM)
i have a question? so are Henry and Zhou Mi in the group Super Junior? or are they only in Super Junior-M?
As far as I know, Zhoumi and Henry are only a part of Super Junior-M, not Super Junior.
- 영운
xoxoroo
Apr 6 2008, 11:37 AM
ahh, I feel so bad for Henry!
even though I'm pro-only13, I don't think people should be so rude to him :/
ever since he was in don't don, people have been really mean to him T-T.
&& I don't really know what to say about zhoumi...
I really hate how the only13 people take it out on zhoumi and henry, because as someone said before, it's not really their fault. mr. sm's gonna do whatever he wants, whether or not henry/zhoumi want to do it or not. >_>
and guys, is zhoumi's personality really that bad? because he's not gonna fit into suju-m [i don't want him or henry to be in the original suju] if it's really as bad as everyone says.
anyways..
Best Pants - Ryeowook
Best Hair - Henry/wookie - I like the color xD
Best Outfit - DONGHAE<3 :)
Best Pose - Ryeowook - his pose is so adorable
Best Facial expression - Donghae again<3
Best OVERALL - Ryeowook :D
Jamie™
Apr 6 2008, 11:48 AM
QUOTE (xoxoroo @ Apr 6 2008, 02:37 PM)
and guys, is zhoumi's personality really that bad? because he's not gonna fit into suju-m [i don't want him or henry to be in the original suju] if it's really as bad as everyone says.
I don't understand where this rumor is coming from. unless anyone on this forum actually knows him, then how the heck do we know if his personality is bad or not. oh, and someone mentioned that he was cocky at zly's showcase.. umm were we watching the same vid? he may not have been a very good MC, but not once did I feel he was giving off an arrogant vibe.
YeHae_OCEAN
Apr 6 2008, 12:00 PM
Judge SJ-M after their debut please?
I'm looking forward to their debut. Henry and Zhoumi deserves a chance. No one knows them personally and no one knows their intial potentials, yet. Actually, even when they debut, no one could possibly know how far or well Henry or Zhoumi can go concerning their talents. Henry already blew a lot of people away with his violin.
riribl
Apr 6 2008, 12:18 PM
Yeah, I don't understand too why some people judge Henry and Joo Myuk only based on the rumours
Just wait they debut, and all of us will know what their personalities, talents, etc like
And I agree to lilcece, although I'm not really into to SJ-M supporter, trying to be neutral, but somehow several ONLY 13 posts and how some people judge & blame them (Zhou Mi & Henry) even before they debut make me feel irritated
It's not their fault they are in SJ-M. They are picked by LSM =.=
Just wait until they debut
I can't wait until their MV comes out XDD
kellyalster
Apr 6 2008, 12:18 PM
This is my first time posting on any Super Junior thread...ever. So if what I'm putting here is wrong, don't hurt me, I'll fix it. And...hi.
I don't know if it's been posted here yet, but I posted it on Zhou Mi's thread.
skyoflovee on YouTube put up some videos of him, if you're curious about his abilities:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QxOoo-gNq84 -- He talks and sings 流沙 Liu Sha by David Tao. He talks really fast, so I can't understand much.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Os3SznnJHOA -- He sings 愛的就是你 Ai de jiu shi ni by Leehom Wang and 流沙 again. Haha he's so giddy on stage.
He's actually not bad. I like his taste in music.
(David Tao is my hero.) I'm sure he's trained a lot since 2004, so he's probably tons better. About his personality, I don't know, I don't care...a lot of popular and/or talented people out there are jerks, it's a fact of life. I just say...don't worry about it yet. It's not fair to judge him based on his presence at ZLY's debut thinger or his performance from a whole FOUR years ago.
Just chill because SJM is going to happen whether you like it or not.
kamoku
Apr 6 2008, 12:22 PM
awesome super junior debuted on my cousins bday
and SJM is gonna debut on my bday
hangeng seems so excited for sjm
so i'm looking forward to it
and i can't wait to see/hear
violin boy henry sing
or can he rap?
Best Pants: ryeowook - everyone has either weird or tight looking pants o.o
Best Hair: henry - it looks so fluffy and i wanna pet it
Best Outfit: ryeowook
Best Pose: siwon
Best Facial Expression: siwon
Best Overall: ryeowook lol he's not even my fav but he
reminds me of jaejoong looks good in the pic
i'll wait till they debut to put out my opinions on them
XxAznZtatXx
Apr 6 2008, 12:24 PM
Well said lilcece ^^
At first I was like "no way, I don't want this to happen xO " since I'm also a SJ fan, but now when I actually think about it, I'm really looking forward to SJ-M. I feel bad that some people won't buy their products just because they're ONLY 13. Even though the members will know the reason why, wouldn't it break their hearts that their first debut in China is a failure, though I feel they'll somehow succeed. I support them and can't wait for their album! ^^
Best Pants - Ryeowook
Best Hair - Henry
Best Outfit - Donghae
Best Pose - Ryeowook?
Best Facial expression - Siwon
Best OVERALL - Siwon
La'MISS:fairy
Apr 6 2008, 12:41 PM
QUOTE (cherlye @ Apr 6 2008, 07:39 PM)
The Internet is a place for freedom of expression. Unfortunately or not, this is a forum and there are rules to be followed. And whether your posts literally state it or not, some of them obviously scream 'ONLY13!!' pretty loudly.
No matter what, people will never stop talking about this issue,
and be brats and report certain people for something ridiculous too.
You have to deal with it at this point.
I've told people to stop arguing numerous times,
but all of you continued to do whatever you want.
Oh, I can't
wait for them to debut.
Storytime
Apr 6 2008, 01:07 PM
Jeez, some of the ONLY13 and ANTI-SJM comments are really
. It's one thing if you're not going to support them, it's another to have sickening banners to go along with it. SUJU would probably be disappointed to have fans like that.
Anyhow, I do hope SJM gets their chance to shine. It may not have been the best decision to add Henry and Zhou Mi, but there's no reason for anyone to dispise them when they haven't even seen their capabilities. I'm going to keep a positive outlook for when they debut.
viv_smi98
Apr 6 2008, 01:08 PM
QUOTE
I just say...don't worry about it yet. It's not fair to judge him based on his presence at ZLY's debut thinger or his performance from a whole FOUR years ago.
Yeah, I agree. I think if Zhoumi really does have a bad personality, it'll become obvious sooner rather than later.
These guys already have enough pressure, all 7 of them, so let's try make it as easy as possible for them ALL at this point. I hate that it came this far, but it's done now. So let's be gracious about it. Because kicking and screaming have never solved anything.
strawberry78
Apr 6 2008, 01:35 PM
QUOTE (kellyalster @ Apr 6 2008, 04:18 PM)
This is my first time posting on any Super Junior thread...ever. So if what I'm putting here is wrong, don't hurt me, I'll fix it. And...hi.
I don't know if it's been posted here yet, but I posted it on Zhou Mi's thread.
skyoflovee on YouTube put up some videos of him, if you're curious about his abilities:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QxOoo-gNq84 -- He talks and sings 流沙 Liu Sha by David Tao. He talks really fast, so I can't understand much.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Os3SznnJHOA -- He sings 愛的就是你 Ai de jiu shi ni by Leehom Wang and 流沙 again. Haha he's so giddy on stage.
He's actually not bad. I like his taste in music.
(David Tao is my hero.) I'm sure he's trained a lot since 2004, so he's probably tons better. About his personality, I don't know, I don't care...a lot of popular and/or talented people out there are jerks, it's a fact of life. I just say...don't worry about it yet. It's not fair to judge him based on his presence at ZLY's debut thinger or his performance from a whole FOUR years ago.
Just chill because SJM is going to happen whether you like it or not.
Thanks, I hadn't seen the first video before. I like his voice, it sounds nice~ =)
Wow, all that was 4 years ago?? The way people were talking about it, I thought it had been more recent...
So yeah I think after 4 years, there's no way he can't have NOT improved. I mean I don't think SM would throw in some incompetent noob and hope for the best... I'm sure there were other potentials, but Zhoumi had to have been chosen for a reason ^^
Once we get to see him, I don't think I'll be disappointed... and hopefully it will become clear to others as well.
Weeee the MV comes out tomorrow!!! Taking its merry little time.....
Once it's all out I can breathe a sigh of relief~~
QUOTE (kamoku @ Apr 6 2008, 04:22 PM)
awesome super junior debuted on my cousins bday
and SJM is gonna debut on my bday
hangeng seems so excited for sjm
so i'm looking forward to it
and i can't wait to see/hear
violin boy henry sing
or can he rap? I wonder if he WILL do the rap, which there's bound to be. O__O
Who else would do it, Donghae? Hmm..
kyndoodle
Apr 6 2008, 01:52 PM
QUOTE (Ddong @ Apr 6 2008, 05:07 PM)
Jeez, some of the ONLY13 and ANTI-SJM comments are really
. It's one thing if you're not going to support them, it's another to have sickening banners to go along with it. SUJU would probably be disappointed to have fans like that.
I totally agree with you. Not only are some of them offensive, but I would interpret them almost as being a death threat, so how is it ok to have them??? Since when is it legal to threaten to kill someone? Not to mention it's just plain immature, yet they are the same ones calling everyone else immature.
I hope they do well, and I hope Zhoumi and Henry also become active members of Super Junior as well as SUJU M. I applaud them both for continuing with their debut, even though they have so many ignorant people against them. If I was a Super Junior member, I would be embarrassed to have fans like these.
Oh....and BTW. Report me, ban me, whatever. I don't care. If everyone else can state their opinions against them, then I feel I should be able to state my strong opinions FOR them, but if you feel you must be immature and report me, then whatever. And seeing as our Mods for the most part seem to be against them (which seems a little biased to me) then I'm expecting it anyway. At least I get my say first. And also, for those of you who don't have a life other than sending people nasty PM's who say something you don't agree with, you'll just be wasting your time sending them to me nasty because I NEVER read them. I will just automatically block you.
martysmiths
Apr 6 2008, 01:58 PM
QUOTE (dcleo1515 @ Apr 6 2008, 05:57 AM)
Remember people: "DON"T HATE THE PLAYER, HATE THE GAME."
I would like to know what game we're playing and when did we start playing it? Who are the players exactly? Is it a game between the PRO-13 folks and the SJM supporters? Who started this game anyway? And doesn't anybody find it awkward that we're angry at each other instead of the GREEDY SM WHO STARTED THIS ALL.
Remember people: "Don't go blaming me when somebody dies in his sleep."
JJ.exot5ia
Apr 6 2008, 01:59 PM
QUOTE (13!La'MISS:fairy @ Apr 6 2008, 04:41 PM)
No matter what, people will never stop talking about this issue,
and be brats and report certain people for something ridiculous too.
You have to deal with it at this point.
I've told people to stop arguing numerous times,
but all of you continued to do whatever you want.
Oh, I can't wait for them to debut.
i love you so much <3333333 you just make my day!
unlike most people~
and yes i'm sooooo excited for their debut~
and i'm soooooo going to support them like crazy~
again, i point out that this thread was made so that we can DISCUSS
our opinions on SUJUM because we can't in the main SUJU thread, so
ANY opinions concerning sujuM is fine. now you might think you see
something hidden in our comments, but who knows, maybe most of
you need glasses? did you ever see OMG I HATE HATE HENRY AND ZM?
nop~ so you have no right to blame us. people have opinions, just like
you are a supporter and we are supporters of a different kind~
donghae is hot <3
ps. oh do i see sickening banners~ i see sickening pictures too~ all over
this thread~ the only non sickening ones are the banners that i obviously
adore!
-Rebecca
bbSooyoung
Apr 6 2008, 02:06 PM
Well said, lilcece, I completely agree.
I'm not going to say anything else though, I hope Henry and Zhou Mi are doing good. <3
I'm really excited to hear Henry sing, sakjfkasjfas <333 I wonder if he'll be doing rapping too? Hehe, i'm like dyinggg of anticipation, seriously, I'm extreeemlely excited for their chinese version of U.
Tonight, they're releasing Ryeowook and Zhou Mi's pictures right?
Storytime
Apr 6 2008, 02:12 PM
Oh dear, sarcasm and indirect insults are just so ~ fun to read.
Henry and Zhou Mi's name written beside gallows? Hmm, definitely no room for misinterpretation there. I'm
so glad there are such great supporters for SJM.
The blame game? There's definitely no need for that. We all know that all publicity is good publicity. Thanks for spreading the SJM love.
Bethany
Apr 6 2008, 02:12 PM
So much drama and so much tension.
I'm just thinking that if SJ-M's debut in China were to fail, SM would be so
embarassed that they might not want to release another Chinese album. It might
be a good thing for some peole who like them to sing only in Korean, but for
HanKyung...he would be crushed. This project means so much to him.
There's a reason why SM put Zhou Mi and Henry in the sub-group...maybe these
guys can really sing in Mandarin. Just one more day and we will see...
JJ.exot5ia
Apr 6 2008, 02:18 PM
i just wanna make something clear...
A LOT OF THE PRO ONLY 13 SUPPORTERS DO NOT HATE HENRY AND ZHOUMI!!!!
as i am a pro only 13, i do believe that henry and zhoumi are talented because
we all know how hard it is to become a trainee and train to debut in SM one of the
hardest in korea, in asia? i don't know so i do give them credit, a lot, because i
believe that they ARE talented. We aren't 'against' them really, truthfull if they were
to debut as a soloist, or a duet, or some other new group, i would support them!
I find it childish, as most of you say that we are, that you say that we are 'crazy'
'insane' 'dumb' 'stupid' and we've been on the more mature said and chose to ignore
those comments. But it piles up, and now everyone's fighting. You supporters of
H+ZM say that it is our fault and how we should just stop, on the other hand we
can use the same comment with you can't we? you say it'll be easier if we just accept
it, well it can also be easier if you can ditch your idea of H+ZM in SUJU. it works
BOTH ways and we (pro and non pro) are basically the same in thought, just different
in action i guess.
martysmiths is right, we aren't playing the game and you guys aren't too, it's
SM if this idea never came to be, ELF and non ELF fans of SUJU will still be united
as 'everlasting friends' (something that someone keeps pointing out to me) but i don't
see how that our actions are considered childish when some of the supporters of sujuM
are JUST as childish if not even more cus oh how grown up... 'you guys are crazy' great~
my post isn't really for anything except to explain EXPLAIN ~ so i don't know how people
can take offense to this. O.O
anyways, i do look forward to SUJUM's debut, but only of the five that i love
i'm sorry but that is my opinion, it may defer from yours but people are unique
and we have different brains and different ideas.
-Rebecca
viv_smi98
Apr 6 2008, 02:21 PM
QUOTE (Bethany @ Apr 6 2008, 05:12 PM)
So much drama and so much tension.
I'm just thinking that if SJ-M's debut in China were to fail, SM would be so
embarassed that they might not want to release another Chinese album. It might
be a good thing for some peole who like them to sing only in Korean, but for
HanKyung...he would be crushed. This project means so much to him.
There's a reason why SM put Zhou Mi and Henry in the sub-group...maybe these
guys can really sing in Mandarin. Just one more day and we will see...
Yep, that's why I think the best thing all the distraught people can do is refuse to buy it or request it. Otherwise, it rings hollow.
Banner wars? Mean posts? Not gonna solve anything. That will just create a rift in the fanbase; nobody wants that. If SJM fails or succeeds, we're all still with SuJu regardless.
Panda17
Apr 6 2008, 02:21 PM
Lol, thanks lilcece, bbSooyoung and kellyalster! Took the words right out of my mouth along with a few others out there. Anyways, just ONE more day! I'm so excited.
Wow~ So awesome talent. Thanks jennskie for such awesome graphics and Rikayla for the wallpapers!
I agree with that, Super Junior M to me is not another sub group it's a brand new group. Who I know will have talent. LSM hasn't failed me before and I'm sure he wont now.
Ohh! I want to see their dance skills now, esp. Henry's. I watched this video where he break dances with a friend, really cool, and his audition video is the hottest thing ever. A must watch.
Lol, good question, I hope he sings tho, I'm not really strong for rappers. Donghae can rap tho.
Lol, it would be great if we could ignore all those posts we disagree with pro or not. Let's just be mature and move on, let's not get this place closed now that we're so CLOSE!
All that matters is that SuJu-M will happen!
cherlye
Apr 6 2008, 02:29 PM
To be perfectly honest, I am pro13.
But I find most ONLY13 comments here highly unneeded and even childish to a certain point.
Needless to say, I am appalled.
But I'll listen to Gaia (if I may call her that?) and take everything here with a pinch of salt
aka, I'll ignore all the childish comments here, w00t ^^
Counting down; more than half a day to go till April 8~
La'MISS:fairy
Apr 6 2008, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (viv_smi98 @ Apr 7 2008, 12:21 AM)
Yep, that's why I think the best thing all the distraught people can do is refuse to buy it or request it. Otherwise, it rings hollow.
Banner wars? Mean posts? Not gonna solve anything. That will just create a rift in the fanbase; nobody wants that. If SJM fails or succeeds, we're all still with SuJu regardless.
Excluding the adorable banner I was sporting earlier, my current banner simply shows support for the five boys I acknowledge as Super Junior members - there's nothing explicitly offensive in it. I don't see why people get so upset over it. If you express your opinions in here, I can do it too. I love Geng, Siwon, Donghae, Ryeowook and Kyuhyun because of what they've given me in the past two years and a half. Period. :)
potensvita
Apr 6 2008, 02:31 PM
QUOTE (E X O T S I A x @ Apr 7 2008, 04:18 AM)
i just wanna make something clear...
A LOT OF THE PRO ONLY 13 SUPPORTERS DO NOT HATE HENRY AND ZHOUMI!!!!
but that doesn't mean that they didn't hurt any of them.
kellyalster
Apr 6 2008, 02:33 PM
QUOTE (Bethany @ Apr 6 2008, 06:12 PM)
I'm just thinking that if SJ-M's debut in China were to fail, SM would be so
embarassed that they might not want to release another Chinese album. It might
be a good thing for some peole who like them to sing only in Korean, but for
HanKyung...he would be crushed. This project means so much to him.
I totally agree. On Han Geng's Cyworld, he said he's really excited about this project because it's like coming home and he's waited so long and worked so hard to "come home." If this fails, I just pray that he'll be okay, and I hope he doesn't stress himself out too much.
QUOTE
04.04.08
但这2个月没有白忙，终于可以看到结果了，我一直都期待这一天，这一天不光光代表发行新专辑，也代表我能够回家了。
But I didn't waste my efforts these 2 months, can finally see the outcome, and i've been anticipating this day, This day does not only mean I'll be representative to distribute this new album, but also mean that I'll be going home.
Then he proceeds to talk about the past 5 years and the hard work he's put out. And as always, he ends it by telling us that he loves us all.
Source: Han Geng's Cyworld
Translation: http://for-hankyung.blogspot.com/It's really sad that when all his fans are angry about something he's so excited for.
I'm pro-Super Junior M, for his sake. (And as long as they don't get rid of original members, it's okay to me.)
But really, let's just end it here. All you extreme anti-SJM people shouldn't be here if you only have bad things to say. Let us pro-SJM people fangirl in peace.
JJ.exot5ia
Apr 6 2008, 02:35 PM
QUOTE (potensvita @ Apr 6 2008, 06:31 PM)
but that doesn't mean that they didn't hurt any of them.
yes~ and we're sorry for that, i am. b u t SM should think first
before doing something that has hurt fans too.
-Rebecca
Panda17
Apr 6 2008, 02:39 PM
QUOTE
But really, let's just end it here. All you extreme anti-SJM people shouldn't be here if you only have bad things to say. Let us pro-SJM people fangirl in peace.
Agreed.
The dance for U MV should be different than the Korean one, right? Well, I hope so, and a lil hip thrust would be mad sexy too.
potensvita
Apr 6 2008, 02:43 PM
QUOTE (E X O T S I A x @ Apr 7 2008, 04:35 AM)
yes~ and we're sorry for that, i am. b u t SM should think first
before doing something that has hurt fans too.
-Rebecca
That is not good enough of a defence. You don't hurt others (who has no choice) because of another person that hurt you.
Fans must be mature enough to be fans.
In fact, I am not sure how well you guys know what is being a fan means.
Let me ask you a few questions and I hope you can answer me.
1) Han Geng wants to go back to China after so long and being a fan, do you support him?
2) How are they going to win the chinese audience who look highly upon seniority when majority of the original Suju members can't really converse in Mandarin?
3) Do you know that doing the only-13 movements really make them felt bad too?
It is fans like this that made me feel like losing interest in the artist itself.
thisgardenoncewas*perfect
Apr 6 2008, 02:44 PM
lol this is kind've hilarious to read.
what people put in their signatures is their business. to point out what they have there is exposing yourself to attacks, and along with it, your beliefs.
we're all biased, anyways.
just don't start things and there won't be problems. don't provoke things and just ignore them and whatever.
i think we should all just shut up, but whatever, hahaha.
viv_smi98
Apr 6 2008, 02:46 PM
One good thing about this is more screen time for Kyuhyun and Wookie in the MV, I hope! I hope will we get to see Kyuhyun dance more! If that's something we really even want to see, hehe.
JJ.exot5ia
Apr 6 2008, 02:47 PM
QUOTE (potensvita @ Apr 6 2008, 06:43 PM)
Let me ask you a few questions and I hope you can answer me.
1) Han Geng wants to go back to China after so long and being a fan, do you support him?
2) How are they going to win the chinese audience who look highly upon seniority when majority of the original Suju members can't really converse in Mandarin?
3) Do you know that doing the only-13 movements really make them felt bad too?
sorry but we are not the ones that are being fans for nonsuju people you know?
and how do you know it makes them feel bad? what if they are happy?
plus, why not stop?
Panda17 dude in the U vid if they don't do the hip thing? i'll cry~
that's the sexiest dance ever!
-Rebecca
riribl
Apr 6 2008, 02:51 PM
QUOTE
2) How are they going to win the chinese audience who look highly upon seniority when majority of the original Suju members can't really converse in Mandarin?
Totally agree with this question
Chinese market is a really big market. Once you are famous in this market, your name can spread through the world
One of the reason why I support Suju-M because I want Super Junior known in the world =)
Shenlu
Apr 6 2008, 02:51 PM
I'm really curious to see the MV.
Donghae and Hankyung will undoubtedly shine with the dancing (being two of the best dancers, of course...)
I'm so curious to hear them sing properly in chinese also and the MV looks really... shiny
From the pics that were leaked, the choreography looks different, but that
could just be my eyes =P
They look gorgeous. That the word
they as you wish.
5imply_5wt
Apr 6 2008, 02:52 PM
hey guys~ i found a clip of zhoumi singing in english <3 granted... his pronunciation is off.. but who cares.. he's gonna sing in chinese.. he have a pretty voice! <3
have a look
here!translation
QUOTE
MC: Today's third pair of opposing contestants. First, we have the one who had the privilege of choosing his opponent, hailing from the Nanfang regionals, a shuai ge[1], Zhou Mi!
Zhou Mi: Because I was one of the younger contestants at the Nanfang Regionals, I think that I will have a more energetic and youthful performance onstage.
MC: Zhou Mi, hello.
Zhou Mi: Hello.
MC: You can't not shake hands with me just because you're shuai[2].
Zhou Mi: *laughs*
MC: Come, tell me, what were you thinking when you chose your opponent?
Zhou Mi: When all of the contestants were training together, our friends often joked, saying that Xiong Hui and I are like the "Golden Boy and Jade Girl"[3]. I think it might be because our tendencies are similar - we both like to sing and dance - and I think that good things should be brought out together so that everyone can enjoy it, so I picked Xiong Hui.
MC: You're so ruthless.
Zhou Mi: *laughs*
MC: Everyone has probably heard of, but never seen, golden boy versus jade girl, today, we'll let everyone see it. Welcoming, Xiong Hui.
Xiong Hui: *talkingtalkingtalking* [Mostly stuff about her performance that I'm too lazy to translate. If anyone wants it, just give a holla and I'll do it.]
MC: Jade girl is very cute. The first time jade girl saw Zhou Mi, she went, "Waaa~aaaahh~~". Her 'waaaaah' was even longer than mine. And then she was chosen by the golden boy to be his opponent. How do you feel?
Xiong Hui: I really like Zhou Mi because I like the way he smiles.
Zhou Mi: I think she studies performance, so I think that when she is onstage, she is very active and she follows her instincts well.
Xiong Hui: All of the female contestants like him a lot because he the most good-looking of all the contestants on our team.
Zhou Mi: Regarding suitability, we have a commonground. Also, we are also close in age.
Xiong Hui: I think that no matter what the result of the competition is, we will become very good friends.
Zhou Mi: This time, in order to let everyone feel a sense of freshness, I specially prepared an English song.
Xiong Hui: Competing with him, I will enjoy it very much because he is a very beautiful scenery.
MC: Alright, your guys' battle begins now. Golden boy Zhou Mi will start his performance.
And obviously, the singing starts here~
NOTES:
[1] shuai ge - hot/cool older brother/oppa
[2] shuai - hot/cool
[3] Gold Boy and Jade Girl - I think this means something along the lines of "a perfect pair", but correct me on this if you know for sure, I could be mistaken.
credits to suxing@sjchina livejournal
cherlye
Apr 6 2008, 02:53 PM
QUOTE (E X O T S I A x @ Apr 7 2008, 06:47 AM)
sorry but we are not the ones that are being fans for nonsuju people you know?
and how do you know it makes them feel bad? what if they are happy?
plus, why not stop?
Maybe if we could all stop assuming what SuJu is thinking and stop posting about ONLY5, no one would be arguing, yes?
To repeat myself, I am pro13. But I don't think anyone is being fair towards the two non-SuJu members and their fans here.
So let's all stop arguing, please?
(and if anyone rebuts this and calls me a traitor or whatever, I'll forget about trying to keep the damn peace)
QUOTE (E X O T S I A x @ Apr 7 2008, 06:47 AM)
Panda17 dude in the U vid if they don't do the hip thing? i'll cry~
that's the sexiest dance ever!
-Rebecca
And I agree ;_;
aznscrewball
Apr 6 2008, 02:56 PM
Unlike many people here, I would like to see them prove themselves before I pass judgement on how good or not they are.
I am looking forward to the music video and their album because they have all worked hard on it.
No more childish bickering please.
lilcece
Apr 6 2008, 02:58 PM
13!La'MISS:fairy
Gaia, may I call you that?
thank you so much for putting down the other banner. like you, I love the five boys
and I have nothing against your banner. after all, it's what you strongly believe. as
a SuperJunior thread leader, I hope you can also find peace in this thread as well
since the five of them are part of SJ-M now.
Bethany & kellyalster
if anything, I don't ever... EVER want to see pain or sadness in Hangeng's eyes. he
dreams of debuting in China and want both chinese and korean to learn each other
culture through their music. I admit a lot of trainees suffered before they debut, but
I feel Hangeng suffered the most in the past. being the first chinese artist in a new
country is very lonely and difficult to handle... aside from the boys, I know E.L.F. are
really important to him, especially those from his homeland. if I ever see him crush
then... I'll be heartbroken and won't know what to do...
potensvita
Chao Yi ^^ oy... your questions are making me think a little. I know my answers to
all three questions. however, I'm just a little worried now. I don't want anyone to get
hurt after this, you know? while I was gone and came back, the thing that hurt the
most was the sarcasim on supporting the boys.
guys, please don't do that. that's like an insult to the Super Junior members in SJM.
P.S. lol... silent readers. don't be shy and feel free to post. I hope this thread will be
more welcoming from now on ^^ anyways, tonight is Ryeowook's and Zhou Mi's turn.
April 8th is very near =)
JJ.exot5ia
Apr 6 2008, 02:58 PM
QUOTE (5imply_5wt @ Apr 6 2008, 06:52 PM)
hey guys~ i found a clip of zhoumi singing in english <3 granted... his pronunciation is off.. but who cares.. he's gonna sing in chinese.. he have a pretty voice! <3
his english is unbearable but he has
a nice voice and seems nice~ he could
make a good duet or soloist~
-Rebecca
plurals
Apr 6 2008, 02:59 PM
wow so much tension so little fanspazzing.
how about we keep our opinion/standing/non-standings on the whole polarizing 13 or not matter in nonscary!Sigs and Avas and the posts here free of it. That way ONLY13 fans can spaz/talk about the 5 members they care about here and the proSJM can do like wise with all 7 and at the same time make it obvious where they stand on the whole issue (via nonscarylol!sigs and avas). maybe we can keep this place DMZ. Just a suggestion.
On topic.
Ryeowookie has the best look of them all. Yay wookie.
o__0
Apr 6 2008, 03:00 PM
my favorite members are all in here!!
Donghae. Kyuhyun. Siwon... ^^
i'm definitelly gonna love Super Junior M!! =D
kellyalster
Apr 6 2008, 03:01 PM
Thanks 5imply_5wt!!
Zhou Mi's voice is so cute. His voice wasn't super strong back then (like he can't do any fancy stuff), but I like his confidence and the fact that he's not tone deaf. xD
Can't wait to hear him now!!
Panda17
Apr 6 2008, 03:02 PM
Omg! Thank you so much 5imply_5wt for the vid and translations!
His voice is amazing. Lol, agreed his pronounciation is a bit off, but still amazing. His voice actually sent shivers down my back. It really got to me.
Do you know when this was?
Lol, if he could sing like that before imagine now. *Squeal* I'm dying to hear his voice now.
kaizer21
Apr 6 2008, 03:05 PM
QUOTE (E X O T S I A x @ Apr 6 2008, 06:47 PM)
Panda17 dude in the U vid if they don't do the hip thing? i'll cry~
that's the sexiest dance ever!
-Rebecca
PSH the hip thrust in the Don't Don vid was betterXDXDXD
Honestly, I'm a little worn out reading all these arguments.
As people have said before, this thread is for discussing SujuM, whether it be positive or negative.
Some members who are ProSujuM don't like seeing Only13 in this thread, but I have no problem with it as long as it's not disrespectful.
I am disturbed by some certain signatures I have seen around here and in the Super Junior main thread.
Someone has mentioned before that if the Suju members were to see this, they would be upset to have fans like that. Imagine what they would think if some people blantly display utter disrespect to Henry and Zhoumi.
We should formally establish the difference between Only13 and extremists.
On a lighter note ...
Ohmagahh, just a couple more days until the release of Chinese U
So exciteddddd ㅠwㅠ!!!!!
- 영운
5imply_5wt
Apr 6 2008, 03:05 PM
kellyalster i listened to some songs he sand in chinese.. and it's actually pretty good.. he is really confident that's why SM made him the MC for jang riin's new album conference.. he's cute ^^ sorry i don't know when it was taken.. by the looks of it probably recent years.. so he probably got better ^-^
i can't wait to see their new MV.. i really want to hear henry sing.. i mean he had less than 2 years of training and he already debuted.. he must be really good =D
JJ.exot5ia
Apr 6 2008, 03:12 PM
QUOTE (kaizer21 @ Apr 6 2008, 07:05 PM)
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PSH the hip thrust in the Don't Don vid was betterXDXDXD
lol SERIOUSLY~ gosh i still remember watching the fancam of donghae
doing the pelvic thrust in don't don over and over again~ good times!
but you know, it would be quite useless if we show our displeasure by
you know, doing nothing O.O ?
-Rebecca
Sp0iL3d_Br8t
Apr 6 2008, 03:14 PM
I can't understand ANY of Zhoumi's English. His voice is good, (go solo or something) but I still don't understand him.
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