i'm neutral to this whole pro-13 thing (altho i HONESTLY RATHER HAVE 13 ONLY), but i think it's ridiculous to say "it's war" or watever between fans. I'm sure both groups like super junior, i don't see why u guys(either group) should be so mean to each other and call each other names, or start hating each other. If it's anyone either grp should hate, it's the big boss that owns super junior. I'm (not) fairly sure but i don't think henry and zhou-mi would run up to father SM and BEG him to be in super junior...so Pro-13 fans shouldn't bash those two,[b]if they do [/b]but i haven't really seen any mean remarks of them yet.(<< notice these words i said?nhbsakakude)(seen a banner) XD..it's not their decision to make to be in suju(-M) or not. Anway, what's up with the "banned banner?" I haven't seen it, but i'm just interested in what it's about.
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GAH!!!..i ALMOST mistook zhou -mi for Shiwon..=< ..but they do look similar sometimes.alright..only 2 days left till they debut

----i just read a comment quoted
"Also Zhoumi, so far, I don't have a good impression of him. I saw him at the ZLY's album showcase. He seems too cocky to me. That's not really SJ's image"

...Regarding this comment,...isn't heechul cocky?(a nicer word would be "conceited").isn't heechul KNOWN for being conceited and a little bit eccentric?..=/..and just to make everyone feel better, SUJU-M is NOT SJ..so we can't say what image this group has yet since they haven't debuted.XD

QUOTE (13!La'MISS:fairy @ Apr 6 2008, 07:14 AM)

The banner doesn't break the rules,
if it breaks your heart, that's another thing.
H & ZM break my heart in SJM, so we're even.


GAIA최고!▬♡ 나를 봐, G규짱 says:
it's 357 x 187
what was NOT used in width
was added to the height
and if you subtract 175 from 187
which is 12
and add it up to 357
it doesn't even reach 400
I've had BIGGER banners
[X] - XYZ; says:
oh, i didn't know you can do that XD
GAIA최고!▬♡ 나를 봐, G규짱 says:
no one ever stated it
but it's logical.
it's also only 35k
and they allow 40k

Altho i am EXTREMELY interested in seeing this bannerseen it, i happen to disagree that the banner did not break rules, as rules specifically states that
Maximum width for banner/image = 400 pixels
Maximum height for banner/image = 175 pixels
The banner's height is 187, which has exceeded 175. U can't really add and take off, and it's actually not logical. The areas are different. even tho the area u chose is actually smaller...orrr maybe because the height is higher,even tho the area of ur BANNER is smaller, more area (of white space) is actually taken on the screen just to fit ur banner..which is why its a problem (and why rules to limit these are made)..now that i've seen the banner, i agree it was kinda extreme to imply that u wanna KILL/HANG them.isn't it worst to express feelings of killing the artist rather than bashing the artist?

would anyone care for any banners that look like this one?



i'd be willing to make a banner for each member of suju c m, since they're easy to make. all following the same format.

because i'm about to do an icon dump and thought it'd be nice to ask if you guys'd want them or not. they don't say Suju13 or Sujuman5 or Sujuman7 or anything, just their names.

here's the siwon one, for another example just asking.

^
^

I don think anyone was bashing the 2 members recently.. >__>




Lol..I so totally agree with u...
Cos I remember the reason for creating this thread is to lessen the tension..
which we r always havin
So if everyone don replies to those Pro13 and ProSJM suppporter IF there is one
everythin will b nice and dandy! XD
Note:I am a PRO13 supporter AND SUJU M.. -.-




Ohh!Thanx and good job!Its very nice! ^^
Hope u don mind me saving all of them.. ^_____________________^ v

Now I really wished Kangin or Teukie was in SJM.. @____@
(as u can c Im a Kangin/Leeteuk freak.. )Lol

^
^ oh! Is it okay if I use the Ryeowook one? I'm on a "Giving Love To Ryeowook" high. because I love him XD

I love those sigs, they look great!!
I hope you don't mind if I use one



Feel free to share more, I think they look really nice ^^;;


Ahhh MV tomorrow MV tomorrow! I will for surely be dead....
The minute I see them and hear them singing in Chinese,
Seeing Zhoumi and HENRY~ ooooo the thought makes me so giddy!! ^o^

This News..........

预告：4月9日18时 SJ中国组合SJ-M做客搜狐

韩国人气组合SuperJunior的“特别小分队”SJ-M正式登陆中国,成立短短几日就得到了广泛关注，不仅韩庚、始源、东海、厉旭、圭贤这五位老成员人气依旧,新加入的周觅和Henry也来势汹汹。4月9日18:00, SJ-M做客搜狐《明星在线》，畅聊新组合新感想新动向,敬请关注。

They will a guest sohu.com "Star Chat",right?

On April 9,18:00,right?

Link >> http://yule.sohu.com/20080407/n256135008.shtml

http://v.sohu.com/starchat/


I don't know Chinese language.....Who can tell me? So Thanks ^^

OMG!!! i'm sooo excited!!! they're finally debuting!!! i can't wait for their music video! =P
and i'm hella curious of how henry sounds like hahahhaa!! yeah...i'm soo proud of him cuz he's
from CANADA!! hard to imagin someone that livED so close is in SM and with SUPER JUNIOR too!

WOW SERIOUSLY PHYSCED FOR SUJU M <333
I like the group's image better then Suju 13
can't wait! ehehe

but why isnt kibum nor yesung in the group?
just 7 people isnt enough T_T

I'll use this one as my sig ^______^ i wanna put all 7 of them down in my sig but it's too much, so ill just use donghae's ^o^
I was debating on Hae's and Henry's
Thank you for sharing these!!!!!

I'm so excited, can't wait for their debut

heechulism
I really luv ur siggy..mind if I use one or two?
I think I'm gonna use Geng and Wonnie hehehe..
The other ones are also very good..
You did a great job..

arghhh one more day..one more day..I need to see their MV..
hope they can be successful ^^

Gah, I really can't wait until their MV comes out ㅠ.ㅠ
I think I'm going to die of waiting.

I'm really looking forward to what Henry and Zhou Mi have to offer us ^^
Even though I'm all for Pro13, I can't help but support all seven.

Henry~ I can't wait to see him.
I really want to hear him sing.

I'd have to say, Wookie's picture is my favorite.
He looks so cute~ Reminds me of a little child.

I'd have to say Siwon, Kyuhyun, and Hankyung really caught my attention when I first saw the pictures.
They ooze charisma the most.

im excited about this! very neutral about the new members too~
my favortie wookie is in here!! and it means he got more chances to sing ^^
hopefully the 2 new members dont get to bothered with the bad remarks and just stay optimistic~
for those who are not supportive doesnt really have a choice anyway..
they are debuting~ and it will turn out better...
how can anyone boycot an album with ryeowook inside?haha...
fighting!!
i'll buy the album~
sorry for spamming...im just an excited fan~ ^^

Again, Ryeowook is the bomb!



You are one talented soul.. I'm lovin your sigs but it's so hard to choose..

it's basically just saying they will do a chat with 明星在线 on the 9th (which is omg in a few days :D)
there's a link to where you can leave them a msg~ -> http://comment2.news.sohu.com/viewcomments...on?id=256135008

^
^
^ lol, you're not spamming. I'm just as excited as you are.
a couple of more hours... man, it seems so far away ><

QUOTE (judeism @ Apr 7 2008, 01:01 AM)

You are one talented soul.. I'm lovin your sigs but it's so hard to choose..

hahaha, you liar... I say you pick Ryeowook. after all, I love
your signature at the moment. he looks a little lonely, but
I find his pose really adorable. oy, Ryeowook's beginning
to grow on me too. like someone said, he didn't had a lot
of air time- so that's why he didn't stick out as much if he
was compared to the other members (aside from his one
and unique voice). I hope he does once SJM debuts ^^

QUOTE (thisgardenoncewas*perfect @ Apr 7 2008, 12:13 AM)

would anyone care for any banners that look like this one?

http://i30.tinypic.com/j0ihkx.png

http://i28.tinypic.com/120rq5v.png

'they don't say Suju13 or Sujuman5 or Sujuman7' hahah. so cute ^^
I'm liking this set as well. gosh, why are you people good at PSing - -
Siwon's face LITERALLY glows!

of course it's okay ^^~

i just finished them. i posted them over here, but i'll go ahead and post them here too since that post has icons as well.












hope i didn't kill anyone's computers

if you're going to use one on soompi, please credit thisgardenoncewas*perfect~
and you're OK to use it anywhere else (if you'd like ;___;) but please credit ryeomin@livejournal.com

i hope they're okay >_>

Question: Does this mean that Zhoumi and Henry are official members of Super Junior or are they just in a group together for just super junior m. ??? So curious!!

thank you so much for your hard work... i'll be keeping donghae



the 2 artists are official members of Super Junior - M, it's a sub-group.

i'm very much looking forward to buying the album.. if others have news where to buy them please post it ASAP. thanks.

Didn't Siwon sing the same song in Love Letter some time ago? HERE! Siwon's English is a bit better, though.

Zhoumi's voice seems to be okay despite his... er.... wonderful English XD;; I dunno how old that video is but maybe he already improved his singing and it doesn't really matter if he's not very good in English since they're singing in Mandarin anyway. Now I'm curious about his dancing skills. O:

I look forward to hearing Henry sing too since we already know that he's a great dancer and all. XD

I really love his style the most, he looks good with his hair like that and the clothes fit him perfectly.


That's when all of you need to stop taking everything I do and say so seriously, (like that time I made a joke about "Kyuhyun marrying an Italian beauty" and it got spread out on forums as if it were breaking news). You have no idea of what happened on soompi yesterday. Reporting someone for their banner (the very innocent ONLY13 one) simply because you disagree with the fact of us totally ignoring Henry and Zhoumi is childish and ridiculous. Even if I had not got reported, warned and been into a discussion with two Moderators (which also involved numerous other users that were behaving more than decently!), the sole fact that you were criticizing the banner in here was enough. Right at this moment, you're all sporting banners with Henry and Zhoumi, but you do not see any of us shooting you down for it. I could complain and say that you're loving two people whom you know nothing about as artists and whatnot, but I don't, because if you chose to do that, it's your own business. I will tightly hold onto my ONLY13 view.

Do you know what it feels like to receive PMs like "the people in the sjm thread are bashing only13.." in copious amounts? While I respect the fact that people rely on me, I can't control people's minds. How many times have I come here and told you to please stop bashing each other, to drop all arguments and try to get along? Did you? Never. You went on and on and on. I even threatened to get both threads closed, but you just skipped my posts and acted as if nothing. Even my patience has a limit, did you know? I make an effort to also accept (very loosely, not literally) Henry and Zhoumi for the sake of this thread, I never insulted them here, never talked smack about pro-sjm people here, but you just couldn't keep your mouth shut.

Also, don't come and tell me that I should not joke with death (in reference to my old banner) because I probably know better than you. The day Turtleman died, I spent hours on youtube watching Turtles performances, crying my eyes out and I was not even a fan. God only knows what I went through last April when the car accident occurred, you really have no idea of who I am and how I deal with things. I cry for the death of strangers, so figures if I would ever want Henry and Zhoumi to die, or if I wanted to kill them myself. Could've done that when I was in Korea at the SM building, I guess? I simply went as far as stooping down to the level of those people who can't even accept my ONLY13 view - when it was not harming anyone. Stop challenging us.

And now I'm off to class, so it would be nice if you FINALLY stopped talking about ONLY13 vs pro-sjm.
If you want to reply to this post, do it privately, via PM. My post is here as I can not PM the entire thread with this.

mmm not sure if i should say this, and then get bashed for it, but i might as well, b/c from reading all the previous posts, this is the feeling that im getting..

this sub-group is different from the previous sub groups, and im not even talking about the addition of henry or zhou mi, but the whole notion taht it seems as though hankyung is leading this group. i am a fan of hankyung, and he was the reason why i got to know suju as a whole, but then in the earlier posts, there were so many who said "o, is hankyung the leader??"

and the way the names were being released, of course there was no surprise that hankyung was the first one, basically he was already established as the main guy for Suju-M. but then the way SM is releasing the members, the way the group "looks" it seems as though it look slike hankyung is leading a different group..

if SM really wanted to target China (and the mandrain speaking fans), why couldnt they have the whole group just do just that?? they already have a big fanbase in China simply b/c of hannie. and if they really wanted to do more, they could've released a Chinese (mandrain) album)

what's my point of writing all this? simply b/c i already see so much tension from this, to the point where i fear that suju can just break up...i dunno why..

i'll probably get a lot of comments saying im wrong, or im overrreacting, but once again, it's my view!

it's things like this, like that, that make me respect La'MISS:fairy more than before.

but i guess we're not all like that. it's okay. but still. <3

why don't we all just keep our opinions to ourselves?

if you do feel like expressing, well - private messaging exists. it seems so much easier than all of this.

Here are some banners I made for Suju M

Feel free to take without crediting~





More banners and graphics here on livejournal

HOMG. The tension here is ... O_O;;; I'm actually afraid to post here. But I respect each one of your opinion so I won't bother stating what's on my mind (though its obvious that I am pro-SJM, but whatever!), I have a blog/journal .. I'd settle stating what I think about this ONLY13 vs pro SJM tension there. I wouldn't want to join in and end up on a heated argument with anyone. I know I sound like a coward here but wahhh~ this VS topic is just TOO SENSITIVE and I don't want to say things that would hurt anyone here, so yeah~


So anyways, me and my sister (who sure is a bigger SJ fan than I am) are both excited about them. Eversince Henry's first appearance on Don't Don, we've been eyeing him and I am glad he's going to debut soon. We're both huge fans. ^^ His solo photo is just SOOOOO CUTE!!! We love his chubby cheeks and he sure looks the youngest. ^^

I love Zhoumi too. I've never heard of negative comments about him but here, but yeah, like what some of you guys said, we have to wait to see if he's really what other people say he is. But he's got so much talent to boot... ^^

I really love this subgroup/unit. <3

I can't wait for tomorrow and for their album. ^^

just a possible hypothesis. we are not all inside sm's head, of course.

but not all of super junior are good at chinese. not all of them are particularly good as singers/dancers. and perhaps china might not accept a giant boygroup full of foreigners and just one chinese boy. they would still be seen as a very foreign group. suju-m as it is, though, is about half chinese and half korean. and now other members can be left to do other things (like mc, act, etc) while sm tackles the chinese market with this group. sm is used to splitting up suju, anyway. they may have just sent over the five members, as some people are insisting should be suju-m. but then, it'd just be one chinese, one boy who speaks decent chinese, and that's not very strong when you're trying to cater to a population in a way that might mean fitting in.

*shrug* just an idea. that's the way i thought about it. it's why suju-m makes sense to me. ^^:

She got a big fat point there people. Here's hoping this would be the last of the ONLY13 vs. proSMJ opinion post on this thread. Let us all be happy squealy SMJ fangirls from now on, no more fandom politics lol X3 [Not here at least]

On a different, happier note [I hope?] Apr. 8th is fast approaching I know tomorrow I'm gonna be on pins and needles waiting for the MV release. It's gonna be so epic!!

Wishing the guys the best of luck, break a leg or seven and blow everyone's brain out!! Super Junior Mandarin FIGHTING!!

to lavenderwingz
I get the same feeling too. However, I understand why they would only get a few members to go because quite frankly learning another language especially mandarin is not easy. They probably took the best speakers/pronouncers in the group. I'm extremely glad that Hangeng is getting so much recognition though, he really deserves it.

everyone's entitled to their own opinion there is no need to bash fellow members of this forum

LOL. No one's gonna get mad. I am pro-13 also, but still pro-SuJu-M. Does this even make sense? LOL.

Yeah, I think HanKyung will lead the group, but I disagree with you on having only the original members be in

SuJu-M will be enough to break into the market. I think SM wants to produce quality Chinese music, where you

can listen to the music and still understand what they're saying. SM is probably shooting for the Chinese/Taiwanese-

Awards nominations? Who knows what's with SM's plans...

Omgah if people continue making banners/sigs I don't know what I'm gonna do!
I want to use them all!! XD
Love those so much, thanks for sharing ^^


And I just wanna say, no one should be afraid to post in here! Least of all the supporters of who this thread is made for!
Things have been getting peaceful!
Let's have it continue that way~ ^^
Remember... happy thoughts......

^ thanks for the YT link. and i agree Siwon is better singing that english song.

hmm... actually this made me think... IMO among all SUJU members, the 3 who can sing the best in english is right here in SUJU-M... Kyuhyun, Siwon , and Donghae... it's not good-GOOD but it's okay/pass-able. Although I have to admit I haven't really heard Yesung or Ryeowook sing in English yet (anybody got a link somewhere?)

anyways, a few dozen posts back.. some were talking about Henry not being able to speak Mandarin naturally. I don't think it's an issue because he's in the same boat as the rest of the 4 SUJU members. However, if you see it all in a positive light, he is actually the ONLY ONE who speaks English fluently (even if you add the rest of the original SUJU members) which is something the sub-group can take advantage of... either by incorporating it in their songs or by being a spokesperson in non-Mandarin speaking locations. Who knows? SUJU-M might be invited to other nations just like how SUJU K.R.Y. was invited in thailand.

But I do hope, in fact, that Henry will be able to address the fans in english from time to time so I may at last understand what Suju-M will be saying... I'm quite looking forward to it, actually.

*edit*


oooh.. those banners are great! keep up the good work! i'll be saving both.. thanks!

!!! WHUT?!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v2oP5BnBB6Y - RyeoWook singing Honesty

8D His English is wonderful~ Well, pronunciation. It's better than I thought it would be, the first time I heard it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TIcu6PL_s-c - ryeowook singing still with

ok i'll just ignore those arguing comments - -
and thx to Heechulism,eleclya111 and thisgardenoncewas*perfect for those siggys
I love all of them ,but can't choose lolx

funny i was thinking the same thing about all these SJM banners popping out every page.
i want to use them all

I think it's semi directed to me (about people not getting afraid to post anything here) but I think for me, it's not really fear but for the sake of peace in this thread.. there's already too much tension, i don't want to add and it's nice if we would all get along and just... respect each one of us' stand on this sensitive issue.. just my two cents~

anyways i was thinking, i hope ZhouMi isn't as skinny as he was in the old video of him singing "Can You Feel the Love Tonight?" (did I get that right?). He looked skinny in that video.. or was it just me? But looking at his solo photo, I think he's got more meat.. (and why on earth am I seeing two SIWONs? XD)

April 8 is just hours away. I can't wait! I'm glad the debut date fell on my rest day, I can spazz all day long.. XDDD

I haven't been reading much
But well, i just noticed that HENRY HAS SUCH SMALL EYES <3S! xD.
They're gonna debut soon! Hehes i can't really wait.

I'm not sure if i should ask this.. But
the show that they're gonna be on what channel is it?
Or erms, what's the channel name. (Like SBS, KBS all those) ;x

-Jaejoongx3

Icons I made out of sheer boredom.

Super Junior:
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Henry:
l

Zhou Mi's picture wasn't released yet right? If not, then I most likely missed it. I don't really bother back-tracking this thread.

Oh, and you don't have to credit the icons either. I honestly don't care :x.

omg

totally excited

they're gonna debut tomorrow!! Ahhh

*squeals*

WOOT


can't wait!!!

^ oh and I'm using one of your icons k? thanks !!

ok edit, darn can't make it look right, will use icon later.

I can't wait for them to debut! X3

QUOTE (rainie_teukie @ Apr 7 2008, 03:00 PM)

(and why on earth am I seeing two SIWONs? XD)

I thought I was the only one XDDDDD

Anyway, I was watching Star King last night, the one with the Kung fu kids? Maybe it's just me, but the one who did the Bruce Lee outfit looks awfully like Henry O.o I don't know if it's been posted here or anything ^^;; I'm too lazy to go back to past posts <.<;;;

Ah, I wanna use heechulism's siggies too XDD
Hope you don't mind

It's tomorrow they will release the MV, I can't wait for it XDDD
And about the rapper, I think Dong Hae will be one of the rapper, although I doubt his Chinese XD;
Hope Zhou Mi or Henry will do the rap too XD

Finally it's Zhoumi today!
I'm waiting for him actually.LOL! I support him eventhough I heard a lot of bad things about him.
But still we don't know his well right?
I think he's talented eventhough his english bad (lol)
And his message so sweet. He's hoping everyone to like him. And I already liking him!




WOW!!So nice!!
I want to use it!!

I said i won't post again in this thread, but I just had to post to thank you for the awesome signatures,
taking one <3!
(is hard to choose cos i have more than one fav. ><)

and lol@all the wankery =x

i never even knew about this? ahaha what does M stand for?
can't wait for there debut..

okay.. this got me confused. anyone please explain to me since i'm just new with suju frenzy.. what's the difference with suju (13 mem) and suju M? why only 7 mem.. and why choi si won there? god.. i'm getting dizzy..


it saids.. M=mandarin

^
Super Junior is divided into 3 subgroups, Suju K.R.Y., Suju T, and Suju M
Suju M is a subgroup which focuses their activities in Chinese market
Why is it 7 and consists of several members of Suju? Because it is a subgroup, not a new group



M stands for Mandarin =)

http://sj-market.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=dat...asc&no=2242

according to that article, China portal site 163.com has planned to release Suju M's single album "迷Me" on April 8th, so I guess tomorrow there will be both Suju M's MV and single album being released

HENRY<3333 Hohoho. 8D I like that picture of him. :D

And nice pic of Zhou Mi. xD He's the only one without the studio pic. :)

ok. thanks.. so subgroups.. ok! now i'm enlightened!

This News..........



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O_REOH : Thank you about this news !

^ ummm...did you use te online translator or sth? the translation sounds funky and ....

i haven't been in here for a bit and this thread is moving so fast. i'm not gonna comment on anything because this thread makes me sad, yet happy.

i feel so much love for hangeng cuz he gets to debut in his homeland.
love the new pics. siwon looks so different, almost didn't recognize him.
love love love donghae & wookie. and of course there's kyuhyun.
i'm excited for these boys, i know they are too. i hope they are welcomed with open arms.

i have nothing against henry & zhou mi. if anything, patriotic pride for henry cuz he's from my hometown. zhou mi still has to prove his talents cuz i just haven't seen enough to say anything about him.

TODAY IS THE DAY.

let's all just get along.

^ ditto, stop arguing guys


think of how henry and zhoumi would feel if they saw what some of you are writing

think before you act