Sambo, Judo, BJJ, CSW, Wrestlers of all types welcome lets use this place to discuss throws, takedowns, sweeps, guard passes, submissions etc.
first i would like to say im a BJJ newb and Judo novice.
so yeah lets discuss.
and lets talk about my favorite position first the Scarfhold haha, i have to say this is my bread n butter position on the ground and if i cant pull of a americana or armbar with my legs i opt to to either set up a gi choke or move to side mount.
what do you guys do from this position?
edit: mistaked the kimura for americana again...
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Man, I haven't rolled in about...4 years now. I still watch grappling matches and I'm a huge MMA fan, but not being able to train (for lack of money) is frustrating.
I mainly used the scarf hold as a transition to and from side control for pinning purposes. I've always noticed the leverage on that position was really easy to overcome from the bottom, meaning a huge probability of getting swept. But if you've found a way around that, that's awesome.
Again, all I (used to) do from that position was transition. If they tried to sweep their hips away from me, I'd switch to a scarf hold, stop their movement, and switch back to side control to work submissions or do whatever else came to mind at that moment. I almost always rolled no-gi btw.
Cool thread - all you grapplers, carry my lost warrior's spirit with you into battle and let me live through your sweeps, reversals and submissions. Enjoy the battle while it lasts!
I mainly used the scarf hold as a transition to and from side control for pinning purposes. I've always noticed the leverage on that position was really easy to overcome from the bottom, meaning a huge probability of getting swept. But if you've found a way around that, that's awesome.
Again, all I (used to) do from that position was transition. If they tried to sweep their hips away from me, I'd switch to a scarf hold, stop their movement, and switch back to side control to work submissions or do whatever else came to mind at that moment. I almost always rolled no-gi btw.
Cool thread - all you grapplers, carry my lost warrior's spirit with you into battle and let me live through your sweeps, reversals and submissions. Enjoy the battle while it lasts!
QUOTE (Johnny Y @ Sep 19 2008, 08:53 AM) 
Man, I haven't rolled in about...4 years now. I still watch grappling matches and I'm a huge MMA fan, but not being able to train (for lack of money) is frustrating.
I mainly used the scarf hold as a transition to and from side control for pinning purposes. I've always noticed the leverage on that position was really easy to overcome from the bottom, meaning a huge probability of getting swept. But if you've found a way around that, that's awesome.
Again, all I (used to) do from that position was transition. If they tried to sweep their hips away from me, I'd switch to a scarf hold, stop their movement, and switch back to side control to work submissions or do whatever else came to mind at that moment. I almost always rolled no-gi btw.
Cool thread - all you grapplers, carry my lost warrior's spirit with you into battle and let me live through your sweeps, reversals and submissions. Enjoy the battle while it lasts!
I mainly used the scarf hold as a transition to and from side control for pinning purposes. I've always noticed the leverage on that position was really easy to overcome from the bottom, meaning a huge probability of getting swept. But if you've found a way around that, that's awesome.
Again, all I (used to) do from that position was transition. If they tried to sweep their hips away from me, I'd switch to a scarf hold, stop their movement, and switch back to side control to work submissions or do whatever else came to mind at that moment. I almost always rolled no-gi btw.
Cool thread - all you grapplers, carry my lost warrior's spirit with you into battle and let me live through your sweeps, reversals and submissions. Enjoy the battle while it lasts!
certain scarfhold positions can be easily sweeped by bridging and and by controlling the leg and and rolling over, but i find if i modify the Hon Kesa Gatame
and grab my knee instead of his shoulder and move my head down closer and shift my body a little bit down it becomes harder to sweep and i can still make it hard for the guy on bottom to breath. But yeah i have no experience in no-gi and i guess do to the sweat it would be alot easier to get out of. but im just a newb haha.btw have you looked into judo? all the judo schools ive seen have always been alot less expensive than BJJ my judo school is olny 75 a month 4 classes a week while my bjj school is 120 for gi.
QUOTE (MarineGreen @ Sep 19 2008, 02:05 PM)
certain scarfhold positions can be easily sweeped by bridging and and by controlling the leg and and rolling over, but i find if i modify the Hon Kesa Gatame and grab my knee instead of his shoulder and move my head down closer and shift my body a little bit down it becomes harder to sweep and i can still make it hard for the guy on bottom to breath. But yeah i have no experience in no-gi and i guess do to the sweat it would be alot easier to get out of. but im just a newb haha.
btw have you looked into judo? all the judo schools ive seen have always been alot less expensive than BJJ my judo school is olny 75 a month 4 classes a week while my bjj school is 120 for gi.
and grab my knee instead of his shoulder and move my head down closer and shift my body a little bit down it becomes harder to sweep and i can still make it hard for the guy on bottom to breath. But yeah i have no experience in no-gi and i guess do to the sweat it would be alot easier to get out of. but im just a newb haha.btw have you looked into judo? all the judo schools ive seen have always been alot less expensive than BJJ my judo school is olny 75 a month 4 classes a week while my bjj school is 120 for gi.
Yeah, that makes sense. With that grip on your knee, it should definitely give you a more stable position. But I'm always paranoid about giving up any position on the opponent's hips for longer than I need. Also, I guess in your situation, with your head low like that, I'd be worried about him hooking his leg over and going for an armbar/choke. But as long as you're constantly aware of it and have good reflexes, it should never be a problem.
Yeah, BJJ and any classes directly related to MMA are a hot commodity right now, so their prices are way up there (including some Judo schools). When I was looking into Judo, about...5 years ago, I noticed their classes progressed much slower than no-gi BJJ, which was pretty much "ok guys, here's a submission, start rolling." But the art itself is excellent, and I'd definitely go out and find a good instructor if I had even $75 a month to spare. First I have to sweep debt, snap some credit cards in half, and make creditors tap and give me a better credit score. Wow, BJJ analogies...it's too early for this.
QUOTE (Johnny Y @ Sep 20 2008, 10:38 AM)
Yeah, that makes sense. With that grip on your knee, it should definitely give you a more stable position. But I'm always paranoid about giving up any position on the opponent's hips for longer than I need. Also, I guess in your situation, with your head low like that, I'd be worried about him hooking his leg over and going for an armbar/choke. But as long as you're constantly aware of it and have good reflexes, it should never be a problem.
Yeah, BJJ and any classes directly related to MMA are a hot commodity right now, so their prices are way up there (including some Judo schools). When I was looking into Judo, about...5 years ago, I noticed their classes progressed much slower than no-gi BJJ, which was pretty much "ok guys, here's a submission, start rolling." But the art itself is excellent, and I'd definitely go out and find a good instructor if I had even $75 a month to spare. First I have to sweep debt, snap some credit cards in half, and make creditors tap and give me a better credit score. Wow, BJJ analogies...it's too early for this.
Yeah, BJJ and any classes directly related to MMA are a hot commodity right now, so their prices are way up there (including some Judo schools). When I was looking into Judo, about...5 years ago, I noticed their classes progressed much slower than no-gi BJJ, which was pretty much "ok guys, here's a submission, start rolling." But the art itself is excellent, and I'd definitely go out and find a good instructor if I had even $75 a month to spare. First I have to sweep debt, snap some credit cards in half, and make creditors tap and give me a better credit score. Wow, BJJ analogies...it's too early for this.
today i added a new choke to my game drilled it quite a few times i think its called the ezekiel choke we just say sleeve choke. but every posistion has a weakness that you can exploit to escape well thats what the BB and browns say. the scarfhold may be easy to sweep for some but its a position that naturally fits me plus im able to put oppresive amounts of pressure on the bottom.
one thing i have problems with is breaking the guard its just sucks specially when they have your lapels and are trying to choke you, are they easier ways than posturing out of the guard by?
btw man your analogies were quite funny haha.
whoo!! thread!!
just thought this thread was interesting. is this considered spam? lmao
haha my bfs actually teaching me some basic moves [hes did bjj for five years]
well hes tried that is. i got some basic ones down though xD
i actually went to a mma amateur fight this past weekend. friends debut and man was it sad.
he lost to a ARMBAR in 50 sec. he was a striker, his opponent was more a grappler...and thus yea
but it was pretty funny in this other fight. this big black buff ass dude came out against this medium build white guy. and within two minutes, the black guy tapped out. white guy had him in a chokehold xD
and i wonder if any of this is relevant..
just thought this thread was interesting. is this considered spam? lmao
haha my bfs actually teaching me some basic moves [hes did bjj for five years]
well hes tried that is. i got some basic ones down though xD
i actually went to a mma amateur fight this past weekend. friends debut and man was it sad.
he lost to a ARMBAR in 50 sec. he was a striker, his opponent was more a grappler...and thus yea
but it was pretty funny in this other fight. this big black buff ass dude came out against this medium build white guy. and within two minutes, the black guy tapped out. white guy had him in a chokehold xD
and i wonder if any of this is relevant..
QUOTE (kirstie_s @ Sep 23 2008, 03:35 AM)
whoo!! thread!!
just thought this thread was interesting. is this considered spam? lmao
haha my bfs actually teaching me some basic moves [hes did bjj for five years]
well hes tried that is. i got some basic ones down though xD
i actually went to a mma amateur fight this past weekend. friends debut and man was it sad.
he lost to a ARMBAR in 50 sec. he was a striker, his opponent was more a grappler...and thus yea
but it was pretty funny in this other fight. this big black buff ass dude came out against this medium build white guy. and within two minutes, the black guy tapped out. white guy had him in a chokehold xD
and i wonder if any of this is relevant..
just thought this thread was interesting. is this considered spam? lmao
haha my bfs actually teaching me some basic moves [hes did bjj for five years]
well hes tried that is. i got some basic ones down though xD
i actually went to a mma amateur fight this past weekend. friends debut and man was it sad.
he lost to a ARMBAR in 50 sec. he was a striker, his opponent was more a grappler...and thus yea
but it was pretty funny in this other fight. this big black buff ass dude came out against this medium build white guy. and within two minutes, the black guy tapped out. white guy had him in a chokehold xD
and i wonder if any of this is relevant..
Five years is a long time for training BJJ im impressed wish i started BJJ or Judo that long ago.
what moves did he teach you im guessing he taught you basic sweeps and submissions from the guard?
Yeah MMA has gotten to the point if your not a technichal striker and you lack a strong ground game your gonna get submitted, the days of sluggers is slowly diminishing.
To MarineGreen,
I don't really know how the gi affects breaking a closed guard, but if all the opponent is doing is grabbing your lapels and not your sleeves, then almost all your options should still be available.
1) Elbows shoved into/in between his knees to create space and loosen ankles while posturing.
2) Get up to your feet, with body bent over, then do a romanian deadlift motion and straighten your back. No one's ever been able to keep their closed guard when I've done this without trying to pull me down before I can execute it - which experienced BJJ guys will do (this is the only one that'll be difficult if the opponent has a serious death grip on your lapels - peel those hands off you)
3) Knee against the butt to create space, go back towards one side, slide your arm under the opponent's leg on that side, and push his leg forward, thus breaking the guard.
4) Knee on the butt, push down and away on your opponent, posture
And everything else I know of is just a variation on those. Just play around and see what works for you without getting submitted or swept.
I don't really know how the gi affects breaking a closed guard, but if all the opponent is doing is grabbing your lapels and not your sleeves, then almost all your options should still be available.
1) Elbows shoved into/in between his knees to create space and loosen ankles while posturing.
2) Get up to your feet, with body bent over, then do a romanian deadlift motion and straighten your back. No one's ever been able to keep their closed guard when I've done this without trying to pull me down before I can execute it - which experienced BJJ guys will do (this is the only one that'll be difficult if the opponent has a serious death grip on your lapels - peel those hands off you)
3) Knee against the butt to create space, go back towards one side, slide your arm under the opponent's leg on that side, and push his leg forward, thus breaking the guard.
4) Knee on the butt, push down and away on your opponent, posture
And everything else I know of is just a variation on those. Just play around and see what works for you without getting submitted or swept.
QUOTE (Johnny Y @ Sep 26 2008, 10:53 AM)
To MarineGreen,
I don't really know how the gi affects breaking a closed guard, but if all the opponent is doing is grabbing your lapels and not your sleeves, then almost all your options should still be available.
1) Elbows shoved into/in between his knees to create space and loosen ankles while posturing.
2) Get up to your feet, with body bent over, then do a romanian deadlift motion and straighten your back. No one's ever been able to keep their closed guard when I've done this without trying to pull me down before I can execute it - which experienced BJJ guys will do (this is the only one that'll be difficult if the opponent has a serious death grip on your lapels - peel those hands off you)
3) Knee against the butt to create space, go back towards one side, slide your arm under the opponent's leg on that side, and push his leg forward, thus breaking the guard.
4) Knee on the butt, push down and away on your opponent, posture
And everything else I know of is just a variation on those. Just play around and see what works for you without getting submitted or swept.
I don't really know how the gi affects breaking a closed guard, but if all the opponent is doing is grabbing your lapels and not your sleeves, then almost all your options should still be available.
1) Elbows shoved into/in between his knees to create space and loosen ankles while posturing.
2) Get up to your feet, with body bent over, then do a romanian deadlift motion and straighten your back. No one's ever been able to keep their closed guard when I've done this without trying to pull me down before I can execute it - which experienced BJJ guys will do (this is the only one that'll be difficult if the opponent has a serious death grip on your lapels - peel those hands off you)
3) Knee against the butt to create space, go back towards one side, slide your arm under the opponent's leg on that side, and push his leg forward, thus breaking the guard.
4) Knee on the butt, push down and away on your opponent, posture
And everything else I know of is just a variation on those. Just play around and see what works for you without getting submitted or swept.
aww man i was hoping there were easier ways to get out of closed guard...
i can usually pull of the second one but posturing out and working your ways from the gi to belt to pants is like hell to me...
thanks man
don't forget the can opener to open the guard. gi or nogi.
QUOTE (yib @ Sep 27 2008, 03:27 AM)
don't forget the can opener to open the guard. gi or nogi.
im a white belt and thats a illegal move for me no neck cranks in the gi division.
QUOTE (MarineGreen @ Sep 23 2008, 02:04 AM)
Five years is a long time for training BJJ im impressed wish i started BJJ or Judo that long ago.
what moves did he teach you im guessing he taught you basic sweeps and submissions from the guard?
Yeah MMA has gotten to the point if your not a technichal striker and you lack a strong ground game your gonna get submitted, the days of sluggers is slowly diminishing.
what moves did he teach you im guessing he taught you basic sweeps and submissions from the guard?
Yeah MMA has gotten to the point if your not a technichal striker and you lack a strong ground game your gonna get submitted, the days of sluggers is slowly diminishing.
well he took bjj quite a few years ago back in his prime. lol
yea mainy submission dealios. armabr, kneebar, triangle, chokeholds and whatnot
ahh and i forgot to mention, bj penn was there
Oh ok.
But I think its a good skill to have regardless of belt.
Leg locks too.
I've trained under Matt Hume and Marcelo Alonso and both places teach everything regardless of experience.
I have never competed in a gi grappling tournament so I wouldn't know the competition rules...
But I think its a good skill to have regardless of belt.
Leg locks too.
I've trained under Matt Hume and Marcelo Alonso and both places teach everything regardless of experience.
I have never competed in a gi grappling tournament so I wouldn't know the competition rules...
Just came from the practices and I feel so rag doll on the ground, newaza is sometimes so complicated (or so I feel).
I try not to do any chokes because its way to easy and it feels like Im fleeing from the fight if I execute it but my hand just somehow goes automatically to the collars.
Damn you chokes *shaking fists*
I try not to do any chokes because its way to easy and it feels like Im fleeing from the fight if I execute it but my hand just somehow goes automatically to the collars.
Damn you chokes *shaking fists*
QUOTE (kirstie_s @ Sep 29 2008, 12:35 AM)
well he took bjj quite a few years ago back in his prime. lol
yea mainy submission dealios. armabr, kneebar, triangle, chokeholds and whatnot
ahh and i forgot to mention, bj penn was there
yea mainy submission dealios. armabr, kneebar, triangle, chokeholds and whatnot
ahh and i forgot to mention, bj penn was there
BJ Penn is amazing
knee bars are nasty.
QUOTE (yib @ Sep 29 2008, 02:31 AM)
Oh ok.
But I think its a good skill to have regardless of belt.
Leg locks too.
I've trained under Matt Hume and Marcelo Alonso and both places teach everything regardless of experience.
I have never competed in a gi grappling tournament so I wouldn't know the competition rules...
But I think its a good skill to have regardless of belt.
Leg locks too.
I've trained under Matt Hume and Marcelo Alonso and both places teach everything regardless of experience.
I have never competed in a gi grappling tournament so I wouldn't know the competition rules...
yeah ive seen it done looks like it hurts pulling the head towards you and their chest right?
I can see why it would be a good skill to train along with leg locks and the dread heel hook haha.
Yeah im a gi grappler i took BJJ to compliment my Judo but now im hooked and probably wont go back to Judo for a while.
I train under Victor Huber pretty good instructor and a very good heavy weight with or without the gi.
QUOTE (Falcior @ Sep 29 2008, 05:27 PM)
Just came from the practices and I feel so rag doll on the ground, newaza is sometimes so complicated (or so I feel).
I try not to do any chokes because its way to easy and it feels like Im fleeing from the fight if I execute it but my hand just somehow goes automatically to the collars.
Damn you chokes *shaking fists*
I try not to do any chokes because its way to easy and it feels like Im fleeing from the fight if I execute it but my hand just somehow goes automatically to the collars.
Damn you chokes *shaking fists*
Chokes are awesom i prefer them over joint locks actually. Chokes for the win
QUOTE (kirstie_s @ Sep 23 2008, 03:35 AM)
whoo!! thread!!
just thought this thread was interesting. is this considered spam? lmao
haha my bfs actually teaching me some basic moves [hes did bjj for five years]
well hes tried that is. i got some basic ones down though xD
i actually went to a mma amateur fight this past weekend. friends debut and man was it sad.
he lost to a ARMBAR in 50 sec. he was a striker, his opponent was more a grappler...and thus yea
but it was pretty funny in this other fight. this big black buff ass dude came out against this medium build white guy. and within two minutes, the black guy tapped out. white guy had him in a chokehold xD
and i wonder if any of this is relevant..
just thought this thread was interesting. is this considered spam? lmao
haha my bfs actually teaching me some basic moves [hes did bjj for five years]
well hes tried that is. i got some basic ones down though xD
i actually went to a mma amateur fight this past weekend. friends debut and man was it sad.
he lost to a ARMBAR in 50 sec. he was a striker, his opponent was more a grappler...and thus yea
but it was pretty funny in this other fight. this big black buff ass dude came out against this medium build white guy. and within two minutes, the black guy tapped out. white guy had him in a chokehold xD
and i wonder if any of this is relevant..
ahh.. i'd have to say grapplers pwn .. they are the ones that mainly win the fights
i am a BJJ artist
i competed in a local tournament over the summer... sadly there were like only a few girls competing ... i was the smallest one there and i got 3rd place in my weight... i only did gi since by the time they had girls no gi pretty much all the girls left but these two big girls, so i stepped out
but i really can't wait to get to that point where i can hold up against anybody
marinegreen: yea he is. he was there with some kid..performing stuffy. haha
extrapetite: haha yea. cause if youre a grappeler, once you get someone on the groud its basically over.
ohh damn. you do bjj? and youre a girl?? craaaazzyyyy @.@
im too much of a sissy for anything like that xD i give you propsss
extrapetite: haha yea. cause if youre a grappeler, once you get someone on the groud its basically over.
ohh damn. you do bjj? and youre a girl?? craaaazzyyyy @.@
im too much of a sissy for anything like that xD i give you propsss
A trained in BJJ and Judo for like half a year. And i started getting into Collegiate Wrestling. My Favorite position in Grappling is the guard game. Mainly the Rubber guard more than the standard closed guard. Cause the Rubber guard makes me feel more comfortable and actually agitates the crap out of my opponents. And i never got stacked from using the Rubber guard. And foremost I NEVER shoot for takedowns unless i'm really certain that i can. And when it comes to countering takedowns i utilize Judo from there. If i get caught in my opponents underhooks i intsantly throw him with a Taiotoshi. And i play no gi though would like to try out a gi one of these days. And as for Wrestling I feel proud of myself from Friday in practice. Cause this guy who was 30 lbs heavier then me (i'm 150 the guy was 180) Wanted to get it on the mat. But i pretty much out wrestled him and score 6 takedowns and defended all of his. here's a tiny vid of me pulling of my favorite takedown in action lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VWvXghibW0
QUOTE (Malice X Innocence @ Nov 23 2008, 04:31 AM)
A trained in BJJ and Judo for like half a year. And i started getting into Collegiate Wrestling. My Favorite position in Grappling is the guard game. Mainly the Rubber guard more than the standard closed guard. Cause the Rubber guard makes me feel more comfortable and actually agitates the crap out of my opponents. And i never got stacked from using the Rubber guard. And foremost I NEVER shoot for takedowns unless i'm really certain that i can. And when it comes to countering takedowns i utilize Judo from there. If i get caught in my opponents underhooks i intsantly throw him with a Taiotoshi. And i play no gi though would like to try out a gi one of these days. And as for Wrestling I feel proud of myself from Friday in practice. Cause this guy who was 30 lbs heavier then me (i'm 150 the guy was 180) Wanted to get it on the mat. But i pretty much out wrestled him and score 6 takedowns and defended all of his. here's a tiny vid of me pulling of my favorite takedown in action lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VWvXghibW0
Nice man, gi is fun thats all i do actually haha one day i will trade my dogi for a rash guard and board shorts tho.
yeah the rubber guard is pretty good shinya aoki uses it very well in mma.
right now most of my takedown/throwing game is centered around yoko gake, osoto gari, drop seoi nages, and kouchi garis.
that was a nice takedown tho man. props tho man nice to see a fellow jiujitsuka/judoka!
tai otoshi is my bane specially when they circle around circle aroung pull you down and when you try to get up the pull you of to a side and bam you slapping the mat.
im a BJJ newbie^^
ive done it for around 2-3 months,,, not sure haha
but its damn addicting!! since im short and all, and smaller than most of the guys at my club, im used to being on the bottom
i really want to strengthen my bottom game coz of that Huge fan of the triangle xP
i wanna learn the gogopolata,, ive seen it get used a few times and im really fascinated with it lol
ive done it for around 2-3 months,,, not sure haha
but its damn addicting!! since im short and all, and smaller than most of the guys at my club, im used to being on the bottom
i really want to strengthen my bottom game coz of that
Huge fan of the triangle xPi wanna learn the gogopolata,, ive seen it get used a few times and im really fascinated with it lol
remember man pulling off the gogo plata on your back is all about breaking the guys posture, if you dont bad things can happen think scramble then side control.
QUOTE (MarineGreen @ Dec 27 2008, 01:51 AM)
remember man pulling off the gogo plata on your back is all about breaking the guys posture.
A gogoplata can also be utilized from mount, Jiu claw, the back (surprisingly), and Side control.... though i'm still trying to figure out other ways to pull this off. i know like 5 variations from the guard
QUOTE (Malice X Innocence @ Dec 27 2008, 12:01 PM)
A gogoplata can also be utilized from mount, Jiu claw, the back (surprisingly), and Side control.... though i'm still trying to figure out other ways to pull this off. i know like 5 variations from the guard
Ewwww you do teh rubber guard lol.
true i watch shinya aoki lol.
i just assumed because you said your good on your back.
me i prefer chokes triangles, darce and anacondas are what im good at.
you compete in naga?
QUOTE (MarineGreen @ Dec 30 2008, 12:39 PM)
you compete in naga?
ahhh i wish.... i still need the money to continue training
.... but i do wanna compete around 2009...Say i also hear that ADCC is coming to NY i might go.... just to watch though haha.
QUOTE (Malice X Innocence @ Dec 31 2008, 04:44 PM)
ahhh i wish.... i still need the money to continue training .... but i do wanna compete around 2009...
Say i also hear that ADCC is coming to NY i might go.... just to watch though haha.
.... but i do wanna compete around 2009...Say i also hear that ADCC is coming to NY i might go.... just to watch though haha.
FEDOR is competing.
QUOTE (MarineGreen @ Jan 1 2009, 06:45 PM)
FEDOR is competing.
yea him and Gegard Mousasi
.... though we have seen their talent in the ring... now we shall see what they're like in the mat.
QUOTE (Malice X Innocence @ Jan 3 2009, 08:13 PM)
yea him and Gegard Mousasi .... though we have seen their talent in the ring... now we shall see what they're like in the mat.
.... though we have seen their talent in the ring... now we shall see what they're like in the mat.Didn't Gegard just bust Musashi standing a few days ago? I was surpised it came that easy for him. I think he will do ok in adcc.
fedor is really going to adcc?? when is this happening?
Fedor vs Roger that I would watch..
Today was a humbling day i tapped to 10 armbars in 8 minutes by a blue belt with 3 stripes.... got one tap tho with an americana from side mount.
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/11907560 FEDOR is coming.
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/11907560 FEDOR is coming.
Wouldnt put my hopes high, havent seen any major grabbling from Fedor before.
I felt the wrath of Koshi Jime at the yesterdays practices, darn its a killer choke.
I felt the wrath of Koshi Jime at the yesterdays practices, darn its a killer choke.
QUOTE (Falcior @ Jan 10 2009, 12:15 PM)
Wouldnt put my hopes high, havent seen any major grabbling from Fedor before.
I felt the wrath of Koshi Jime at the yesterdays practices, darn its a killer choke.
I felt the wrath of Koshi Jime at the yesterdays practices, darn its a killer choke.
Being a Sambo and Judo champ and having mostly victories by submissions and you have never seen major grappling from Fedor?
QUOTE (Falcior @ Jan 10 2009, 12:15 PM)
Wouldnt put my hopes high, havent seen any major grabbling from Fedor before.
15 submission wins and 6 tkos....... sure you haven't see him grappling before...?
Sorry about my ignorance but I havent really followed hes career more closely. Seen only few of hes full matches + the tkos.
And being judo or sambo champion for me doesnt mean that hes good at submissions(although it seems he is).
And being judo or sambo champion for me doesnt mean that hes good at submissions(although it seems he is).
QUOTE (Falcior @ Jan 11 2009, 11:07 AM)
Sorry about my ignorance but I havent really followed hes career more closely. Seen only few of hes full matches + the tkos.
And being judo or sambo champion for me doesnt mean that hes good at submissions(although it seems he is).
And being judo or sambo champion for me doesnt mean that hes good at submissions(although it seems he is).
Well being a Sambo Champ in my book means you can not be a slacker at submissions because sambo is known for 2 things the "saddle" and the leg submissions.
How far this "not slacker" will carry him in the ADCC, considering that sambo is much more than just submissions.
QUOTE (Falcior @ Jan 11 2009, 04:55 PM)
How far this "not slacker" will carry him in the ADCC, considering that sambo is much more than just submissions.
He will probably be a finalist in the absolute division if not win.
If eddie bravo can win fedor can.
Yes combat sambo is alot more than just submissions, but submissions are a integral part.
peep this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4NG6qvIQPQ
I've watched a few sambo matches. lots of rules im not too clear about. you get the guy down but many times you don't even have opportunity to do anything with it as they stand you back up. It appears much different than straight BJJ anyways.
Fedor can hang with the best grapplers in the world. I can imagine him grinding out decisions ala arona / kerr style, but not sold on his ability to sub top playas, at least not without his GnP arsenal.
Fedor can hang with the best grapplers in the world. I can imagine him grinding out decisions ala arona / kerr style, but not sold on his ability to sub top playas, at least not without his GnP arsenal.
Peep this and discus the awe os what is Shinya Aoki http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLOsRsiTu6w
i love when he takes the back in the 1:16 mark.
i love when he takes the back in the 1:16 mark.
QUOTE (MarineGreen @ Jan 15 2009, 12:16 AM)
Peep this and discus the awe os what is Shinya Aoki http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLOsRsiTu6w
i love when he takes the back in the 1:16 mark.
i love when he takes the back in the 1:16 mark.
I have his Instructional video... It's really good for both Gi and Nogi. Especially how he teaches how to pull of Armbars from like certain angles such as a failed Tome nage, when somone is on butt scoot. Plus teaches Flying Armbars, He also teaches sweet Judo takedowns. And Foremost how to pull of the twister in weird angles.
QUOTE (Malice X Innocence @ Jan 15 2009, 12:20 PM)
I have his Instructional video... It's really good for both Gi and Nogi. Especially how he teaches how to pull of Armbars from like certain angles such as a failed Tome nage, when somone is on butt scoot. Plus teaches Flying Armbars, He also teaches sweet Judo takedowns. And Foremost how to pull of the twister in weird angles.
Tomoe Nage or a variation like koto or yoko?
As some of us know.... yesterday the grandmaster Helio Gracie himself has passed away going 95 years into his life. Helio was a great man who brought out the art of Brazilian Jiu jitsu to it's finest. It was Helio along with Carlos Gracie and Mitsuyo Maeda who made history into creating one of the most deadliest art in the world. And it was Helio's sons that represent the art against various fighting styles that made it to be superior among others. The most unique thing about Brazilian Jiu jitsu is that, There's always a way to find holes... but then later on there's always ways to seal up weaknesses and this is why it's just so unique. Respect to the whole Gracie family for bringing out the best in Martial arts.
R.I.P Oct 1, 1913 - Jan 29, 2009
R.I.P Oct 1, 1913 - Jan 29, 2009
QUOTE (Malice X Innocence @ Jan 30 2009, 05:30 PM)
As some of us know.... yesterday the grandmaster Helio Gracie himself has passed away going 95 years into his life. Helio was a great man who brought out the art of Brazilian Jiu jitsu to it's finest. It was Helio along with Carlos Gracie and Mitsuyo Maeda who made history into creating one of the most deadliest art in the world. And it was Helio's sons that represent the art against various fighting styles that made it to be superior among others. The most unique thing about Brazilian Jiu jitsu is that, There's always a way to find holes... but then later on there's always ways to seal up weaknesses and this is why it's just so unique. Respect to the whole Gracie family for bringing out the best in Martial arts.
R.I.P Oct 1, 1913 - Jan 29, 2009
R.I.P Oct 1, 1913 - Jan 29, 2009
Yeah my class was canceled in his honor yesterday and thursday.
who is going to take his place of 10th degree?
which academy or gyms do you guys represent? I was with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu United <www.bjjunited.com> but couldn't continue because of school :[ Hopefully I can continue training after I graduate
i got a lot of respect for bjj, judo, mma, etc.. i myself wrestle in college, so for me... gi/no gi isn't a question.. we just wear tight fitting compression shorts + compression shirt/t-shirt. i went to a few club judo classes and it was really cool because i was learning the stuff they pull in ufc and stuff. gotta respect the mma fighters, they can knock you out
QUOTE (MarineGreen @ Jan 31 2009, 04:11 PM)
Yeah my class was canceled in his honor yesterday and thursday.
who is going to take his place of 10th degree?
who is going to take his place of 10th degree?
It might be a Possibility that it will be Rorion
QUOTE (dicekid @ Feb 9 2009, 04:59 AM)
which academy or gyms do you guys represent? I was with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu United <www.bjjunited.com> but couldn't continue because of school :[ Hopefully I can continue training after I graduate
Im affiliated with Gracie Humaita, training under 3rd degree BB Victor Huber.
QUOTE (laris @ Feb 9 2009, 09:33 AM)
i got a lot of respect for bjj, judo, mma, etc.. i myself wrestle in college, so for me... gi/no gi isn't a question.. we just wear tight fitting compression shorts + compression shirt/t-shirt. i went to a few club judo classes and it was really cool because i was learning the stuff they pull in ufc and stuff. gotta respect the mma fighters, they can knock you out
i got a lot of respect for bjj, judo, mma, etc.. i myself wrestle in college, so for me... gi/no gi isn't a question.. we just wear tight fitting compression shorts + compression shirt/t-shirt. i went to a few club judo classes and it was really cool because i was learning the stuff they pull in ufc and stuff. gotta respect the mma fighters, they can knock you out
i got a lot of respect for bjj, judo, mma, etc.. i myself wrestle in college, so for me... gi/no gi isn't a question.. we just wear tight fitting compression shorts + compression shirt/t-shirt. i went to a few club judo classes and it was really cool because i was learning the stuff they pull in ufc and stuff. gotta respect the mma fighters, they can knock you out
I want to do some wrestling, what college do you attend?
QUOTE (Malice X Innocence @ Feb 9 2009, 12:21 PM)
It might be a Possibility that it will be Rorion
Really i never really liked Rorion, to me Royler is da man lol.
QUOTE (MarineGreen @ Feb 9 2009, 10:29 PM)
Im affiliated with Gracie Humaita, training under 3rd degree BB Victor Huber.
I want to do some wrestling, what college do you attend?
Really i never really liked Rorion, to me Royler is da man lol.
I want to do some wrestling, what college do you attend?
Really i never really liked Rorion, to me Royler is da man lol.
drexel university, it's in philadelphia, pennsylvania.
QUOTE (laris @ Feb 10 2009, 11:09 PM)
drexel university, it's in philadelphia, pennsylvania.
DAMN your in division 1 thats harsh man you must have an oppressive top game.
haha you know of drexel univ.? to be honest, my top sucks, neutral is my only strength hahaha and i get stuck on bottom, mini cooper's rough
this is always what I imagined grappling to be
QUOTE (laris @ Feb 11 2009, 12:55 AM)
haha you know of drexel univ.? to be honest, my top sucks, neutral is my only strength hahaha and i get stuck on bottom, mini cooper's rough
Nope i saw the link your sig and saw that your division 1 thats pretty elite wrestling right their.
You know any submissions?
QUOTE (Viktri @ Feb 11 2009, 02:36 AM)
this is always what I imagined grappling to be
yeah real grappling is alot different than that, baki is a beast tho.
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