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jellotime
I don't live in the US but everything that happens there effects me immensely being that I'm in Canada.. You know, the elephant and the beaver..

Anyway I'm VERY excited for BoA debuting in North America not because she'll be in Canada touring sometimes and I may get to meet her, but because I truly feel that "eat you up" is the best music she's made since Girls on Top.

Since Girls on Top came out BoA's been off her game. Eat You Up just from the 50 seconds of clips I've seen looks possibly even better. I can't wait to hear the full song, it's so great!!

I really hope she does well in America, and I think she has the necessary skillset, as long as she's working really hard on her English, but it was understandable in an interview 5 years ago, so I'd assume she's better now.
garasaki619
lovve love love love love it biggrin.gif i'm so excited. despite all the people who is doubting her, i believe shes gonna make it good smile.gif
retarded_sponge
I'm highly skeptical about this. The song doesn't leave an impression and is easily forgettable, not to mention the cheesy MV previews IMO.
But I love love love Boa and wish her tons of success.
miimisunshine
i dont think you should of made a thread. there are like alot of threads on this subject already
jellotime
Well since soompi has no search function I couldn't find the threads, and I actually did try to find some before starting the thread...


zhuuzhuusoba
There's a bunch of opinions in the Boa Thread smile.gif (Though you may have to backtrack some sweatingbullets.gif)
miimisunshine
QUOTE (jellotime @ Sep 18 2008, 06:00 PM) *
Well since soompi has no search function I couldn't find the threads, and I actually did try to find some before starting the thread...

it has been disabled. it will never work. just saying
Hikkifanatic
The verses are horrible and the chorus is... giwragfdajadj
weird&short
I think the song's addictive.
It's fairly good... I hope she'll succeed.

(elephants? o_o? In the zoo?. I wasn't aware that was a canadian symbol)
LucasBunny
I think she's playin her cards right...but her timing is very bad.

Beyonce and Britney are coming back and people are anticipating that
she is not going to be able to touch them.
Sam Sik
QUOTE (jellotime @ Sep 18 2008, 06:00 PM) *
Well since soompi has no search function I couldn't find the threads, and I actually did try to find some before starting the thread...


You can use Google.

Soompi "insert"
c3cilia
QUOTE (LucasBunny @ Sep 19 2008, 01:27 PM) *
I think she's playin her cards right...but her timing is very bad.

Beyonce and Britney are coming back and people are anticipating that
she is not going to be able to touch them.

that's the thing right too ..
the two hottest divas are back in the us.
it's hard to make an impression but also at the same time, if she leaves an impression, it'll be good as well.
there are pros and cons -- i just wish whoever enter the us go through with their sucess. so far, things have been delay for se7en and rain.
and out of the blue, i hear that BOA is debuting with already the preview of the mv-hoping for success for her as well ..

anyway, i still think it's bad timing and the song didn't really capture me --
Kimmie
So far I really love the song 'Eat You Up'. I can't wait for the full version to come out.
I'm excited about her debuting in the US. I can't wait for her album.
I'm positive she's going to do good.
EverCool
britney is coming back and someone else too... Ciara the Queen of Dance now. In that video it was kind of obvious she was trying to bite off Ciara and Brit Brit (Beyonce and BOA shouldn't even be in the same sentence.) So therefore comparison will be made. And Boa doesn't stand a chance against any american artist with that ish they are offering.

So Do Boa have a chance? No.

Did she ever have a chance? No.

Is this whole thing pointless. Hell yes.

I feel sorry for her too. But to be completely honest I don't think LSM is doing this for Boa. The dude is testing the waters with this chick. And that sad...

LucasBunny
QUOTE (EverCool @ Sep 19 2008, 02:21 PM) *
britney is coming back and someone else too... Ciara the Queen of Dance now. In that video it was kind of obvious she was trying to bite off Ciara and Brit Brit (Beyonce and BOA shouldn't even be in the same sentence.) So therefore comparison will be made. And Boa doesn't stand a chance against any american artist with that ish they are offering.

So Do Boa have a chance? No.

Did she ever have a chance? No.

Is this whole thing pointless. Hell yes.

I feel sorry for her too. But to be completely honest I don't think LSM is doing this for Boa. The dude is testing the waters with this chick. And that sad...


Well Ciara and Britney arent original in any sense to boot blink.gif
but I agree she doesnt stand a chance against the girls mentioned, but if she can atleast hit top 30 on billboard it's something she should definetly be proud of.
EverCool
QUOTE (LucasBunny @ Sep 19 2008, 04:08 PM) *
Well Ciara and Britney arent original in any sense to boot blink.gif
but I agree she doesnt stand a chance against the girls mentioned, but if she can atleast hit top 30 on billboard it's something she should definetly be proud of.



No Ciara isn't orginal that why she is slowing losing popularity (i guess she thinks showing her ass will make her more famous..... but thats a different story) Brit Brit is original. Name one person like her in the game now? Exactly.

So here comes this asian girl offering nothing new to the industry thinking she going to make it with that cheap video and being asian. mellow.gif

Its kind of funny. I mean SM is the biggest company in Korea and that was the best they could do?
hahahah hee hee uh huh. dry.gif

Top 30? Only if all the asians in America buy her crap and support her music but i'll serious doubt any other race will be attracted to that awful song.

The only way Boa will make it in America. Is if she change every single thing about her.
squeaky
britney isn't original? BRITNEY IS THE ORIGINAL SCHOOL GIRL, WHATCHA TALKING ABOUT?!
ANYOTHERDAY
I think the song is horrible.
And my mv omgosh. I thought she could've done better ?
LucasBunny
QUOTE (EverCool @ Sep 19 2008, 06:26 PM) *
No Ciara isn't orginal that why she is slowing losing popularity (i guess she thinks showing her ass will make her more famous..... but thats a different story) Brit Brit is original. Name one person like her in the game now? Exactly.

So here comes this asian girl offering nothing new to the industry thinking she going to make it with that cheap video and being asian. mellow.gif

Its kind of funny. I mean SM is the biggest company in Korea and that was the best they could do?
hahahah hee hee uh huh. dry.gif

Top 30? Only if all the asians in America buy her crap and support her music but i'll serious doubt any other race will be attracted to that awful song.

The only way Boa will make it in America. Is if she change every single thing about her.



QUOTE (geekazoinks @ Sep 19 2008, 06:34 PM) *
britney isn't original? BRITNEY IS THE ORIGINAL SCHOOL GIRL, WHATCHA TALKING ABOUT?!


vicx.gif vicx.gif
Do not make me laugh
Britney has copied Aaliyah, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Madonna and I can name others
do not make me laugh.

Anyways
I think I can get what your trying to say Evercool but your coming off a lil rude about it
:x and this is coming from someone who ISNT a Boa fan.
kirra12
QUOTE (LucasBunny @ Sep 19 2008, 08:52 PM) *
Anyways
I think I can get what your trying to say Evercool but your coming off a lil rude about it
:x and this is coming from someone who ISNT a Boa fan.


I think the person is pretty rude too,
however i think the album isnt really for BoA fans, is it?
she's trying to break thru the industry, make people who dont know her to like her.
so that comment was just how one of the people she's trying to attract feel ^^

i personally think the MV isnt all that great either
i like her korean n japanese songs n Mvs more
and as someone who lives in america, i dont think it is gonna be as successful as sm wants
however, we never know, this girl has been making miracles since the start
definitely waiting for more of her news in the states
WonderGirlYoobin
as far as i love Boa..
i think it won't be enough for here to succeed in the U.S.A..
LucasBunny
^But how can we judge from 50 seconds??

a video is from 3 to 5 min long so we can't judge from 50 seconds. blink.gif
squeaky
QUOTE (LucasBunny @ Sep 19 2008, 06:52 PM) *
vicx.gif vicx.gif
Do not make me laugh
Britney has copied Aaliyah, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Madonna and I can name others
do not make me laugh.

Anyways
I think I can get what your trying to say Evercool but your coming off a lil rude about it
:x and this is coming from someone who ISNT a Boa fan.

I'm not trying to make you laugh. mellow.gif

boa should be having a korean comeback, not an american debut.
sheart
^ i'm glad someone gets that.

if youre gonna try to debut in america... stay there and work on it instead of performing in korea and japan...
she should pick one or the other.
xstarBURST
QUOTE (ANYOTHERDAY @ Sep 19 2008, 06:29 PM) *
I think the song is horrible.
And my mv omgosh. I thought she could've done better ?

same i didn't understand a single word in that song. ph34r.gif
strawberry_hit
glad boa is heading towards her dreams, cause i remember she did mention she wanted to enter the american market. i like her and all, but her imagine fit more in aisa. but how knows *shrug

though i totally don't like the title "eat you up"????????????? lol
boa need to work on her english as well..even though the preview is not long but could tell the accent is still there.

if SM want to make her big, they should put more effort. the mv allone look cheap. but they did invite big names, we just to have wait until the official release to see how far she will go. hope it doesn't end up .....

i still think she make more $$$ making a comeback in korea and give japan a rest for a while.
kissez*
I don't think she'll make it but I guess it's worth a try.
Hikkifanatic
Her english is horrible!!!
Sam Sik
QUOTE (LucasBunny @ Sep 19 2008, 07:20 PM) *
^But how can we judge from 50 seconds??

a video is from 3 to 5 min long so we can't judge from 50 seconds. blink.gif


Any marketer has to anticipate sales by using psychographics of American media audiences.

SM wants to take a risk even if the American industry isn't behind their backs. The only person that could help BoA right now, is Flo-Rida who is doing a feature with her next year. But yes, people could even judge BoA before the 50 seconds. But that doesn't mean we're 100% right.

Seriously, if Ayumi Hamasaki or Utada Hikaru can't do it. No asian artist can.
zhuuzhuusoba
Er... I have a feeling this is turning into a bash-Boa's-English thing... O.O

I think... Boa is very talented, and could pull off an American debut. The only thing that's not right is the timing. America isn't ready for Asian artists. But then again, Boa may be able to break the ice. We're not expecting a chart topper or anything - just a good response or something... (though I don't understand why she wants to come to the American music industry ^^;; It's not exactly...the greatest music industry, you know?)
Sam Sik
QUOTE (zhuuzhuusoba @ Sep 19 2008, 11:59 PM) *
(though I don't understand why she wants to come to the American music industry ^^;; It's not exactly...the greatest music industry, you know?)


What? The American music industry is the greatest music industry ever. I have no idea where you got that thought from..

BoA wants to go into the American music industry to get more money.
Kya <3
Good luck to her.
The song title though... I dunno about in the US but in the UK it can be very easily mistaken for meaning something else.. might get her more publilicity though? +___+;
joon-ki-fied
funny that there was a similar thread about Se7en's debut single girls a while ago that got closed in a second because 'it should be discussed in his own thread', and this one's still there

No the album is not for BoA fans, and not for asian music fans either. She's supposed to appeal to the general mainstream market, and I think they've done a pretty good job so far with all these big names poppin out and such, though the song is total crap. Sounds too boring, too much plastic dance-pop.

Her management or label should be worried about her 'credibillity'. Wether it's true or not I often get the impression that she seems to be a manufactored popstar. And in this era, everyone wants to come off as 'real'.
Is she even signed to an american label yet? You know, unless a major label is backing her up she has absolutely no chance.
zhuuzhuusoba
QUOTE (Sam Sik @ Sep 20 2008, 12:04 AM) *
What? The American music industry is the greatest music industry ever. I have no idea where you got that thought from..

BoA wants to go into the American music industry to get more money.


Sorry, I should have been more clear. I didn't mean 'great' as in money or anything. sweatingbullets.gif I mean, as far as meaningful music goes... They're kind of rare in mainstream American music (songs are about sex, gangs, drugs, violence, etc - mainstream pop music). Boa had/has the chance in Japan to release songs that aren't so focused on sexual appeal. Just my opinion, though.
LucasBunny
QUOTE (Sam Sik @ Sep 20 2008, 01:48 AM) *
Any marketer has to anticipate sales by using psychographics of American media audiences.

SM wants to take a risk even if the American industry isn't behind their backs. The only person that could help BoA right now, is Flo-Rida who is doing a feature with her next year. But yes, people could even judge BoA before the 50 seconds. But that doesn't mean we're 100% right.

Seriously, if Ayumi Hamasaki or Utada Hikaru can't do it. No asian artist can.

Ayumi never tried

Utada failed due to lack of promotion
what people don't understand is "promotion" is a big part of success

QUOTE (Sam Sik @ Sep 20 2008, 02:04 AM) *
BoA wants to go into the American music industry to get more money.


True
Korean artists don't even equal up to a double platinum status in the united states
I know people pirate in america but it is way worse in korea so she wants the money.
oreoo
Boa seemed too innocent to me to say "I'll eat you up"
was what I first thought of the song but...
I agree that LSM wasn't doing this do BoA could succeed, it's to rack up money.
I mean "Bring on America" seemed like they tried to do a world domination thing..

I really wish BoA could succeed, but I don't think it's very lucky.
Let's just say.. speaking English is a big part of it and so is other things too. I couldnt understand anything in the song besides "Ill eat you up"

T.T

Im rooting for her though! =D
TiFFaNiZeD
ummm best of luck to her o_o im not having too much hope tho
Sam Sik
QUOTE (zhuuzhuusoba @ Sep 20 2008, 02:00 AM) *
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I didn't mean 'great' as in money or anything. sweatingbullets.gif I mean, as far as meaningful music goes... They're kind of rare in mainstream American music (songs are about sex, gangs, drugs, violence, etc - mainstream pop music). Boa had/has the chance in Japan to release songs that aren't so focused on sexual appeal. Just my opinion, though.


How can you judge that? Every music industry has mainstream music that isn't meaningful at all.
leeshinoo
makes money? I think that she has already passed this stage. She just want to realize her dream before she end her contract sm...
I really wish her good luck for USA.
I like very much what this girl do.
And it's very courageous on her part =)

ps: In any case, there is really a clash/choc of cultures ...
EverCool
QUOTE (LucasBunny @ Sep 19 2008, 08:52 PM) *
vicx.gif vicx.gif
Do not make me laugh
Britney has copied Aaliyah, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Madonna and I can name others
do not make me laugh.

Anyways
I think I can get what your trying to say Evercool but your coming off a lil rude about it
:x and this is coming from someone who ISNT a Boa fan.



No. No. No. No. anyway rolleyes.gif

IF i'm coming off rude I apologize.

QUOTE (zhuuzhuusoba @ Sep 20 2008, 01:59 AM) *
Er... I have a feeling this is turning into a bash-Boa's-English thing... O.O

I think... Boa is very talented, and could pull off an American debut. The only thing that's not right is the timing. America isn't ready for Asian artists. But then again, Boa may be able to break the ice. We're not expecting a chart topper or anything - just a good response or something... (though I don't understand why she wants to come to the American music industry ^^;; It's not exactly...the greatest music industry, you know?)



Oh yes American artirts because we are sooo racists. dry.gif How about this, the reason why an Asian haven't made it is. Because no one has been good enough. You can not bring us what we already have! And that is what Boa looks like she is going to do. Imo Super Junior have a better chance of making it then her. Atleast the average american never seen anything like that before.
zhuuzhuusoba
QUOTE (Sam Sik @ Sep 20 2008, 11:43 AM) *
How can you judge that? Every music industry has mainstream music that isn't meaningful at all.


laugh.gif Whoa, chill. It's just my opinion. From my point of view and preferences, I like the mainstream Kpop ballads and rock music, as well as Jpop. I just don't like American rap music, or cliche love songs, or songs about how a girl's body moves or something. But that doesn't mean I don't like all American songs - I still find a few I like. Generally though, I prefer Jpop and Kpop to American music.

But then again, this is just MY opinion. sweatingbullets.gif
EverCool
QUOTE (leeshinoo @ Sep 20 2008, 04:00 PM) *
makes money? I think that she has already passed this stage. She just want to realize her dream before she end her contract sm...
I really wish her good luck for USA.
I like very much what this girl do.
And it's very courageous on her part =)

ps: In any case, there is really a clash/choc of cultures ...


No they are doing this for more money and fame. Which isn't a bad thing.

QUOTE (zhuuzhuusoba @ Sep 20 2008, 04:23 PM) *
laugh.gif Whoa, chill. It's just my opinion. From my point of view and preferences, I like the mainstream Kpop ballads and rock music, as well as Jpop. I just don't like American rap music, or cliche love songs, or songs about how a girl's body moves or something. But that doesn't mean I don't like all American songs - I still find a few I like. Generally though, I prefer Jpop and Kpop to American music.

But then again, this is just MY opinion. sweatingbullets.gif



But what you are saying is ridiculous. Every country is like this. Me personally I don't like Japan music because how freaky it is. But I'm not going to be like "I don't know why anyone would want to go there because of the freakiness" No! I wouldn't say that because its stupid. Thats great you don't like american music. But don't make like it evil or something. You don't know what goes on in the kpop and jpop industry.
zhuuzhuusoba
QUOTE (EverCool @ Sep 20 2008, 02:22 PM) *
Oh yes American artirts because we are sooo racists. dry.gif How about this, the reason why an Asian haven't made it is. Because no one has been good enough. You can not bring us what we already have! And that is what Boa looks like she is going to do. Imo Super Junior have a better chance of making it then her. Atleast the average american never seen anything like that before.

But what you are saying is ridiculous. Every country is like this. Me personally I don't like Japan music because how freaky it is. But I'm not going to be like "I don't know why anyone would want to go there because of the freakiness" No! I wouldn't say that because its stupid. Thats great you don't like american music. But don't make like it evil or something. You don't know what goes on in the kpop and jpop industry.


I didn't mean it that way. And because no one is good enough? I don't think that's it, either. America is...different, in terms of how things are done. Lots of artists come in and fade out really fast, but not all. I'm just saying that Boa could maybe break through the American music market, though it will probably take a lot of time.

And what I meant by "why Boa would want to go to the American music industry" is seriously, why? She's doing just fine in Japan and Korea. (Personally, I think she should be doing a comeback in Korea, but you know, SME likes to surprise us). I didn't mean that America's music industry is 'evil', lol. I meant that she has her hands full already... (I'm not saying that American music is evil, btw. I was just stating that I preferred Asian music).

Sure, what I'm saying may be ridiculous, but this is just my opinion. I am entitled to one, no? tongue.gif (And aren't you assuming a lot? Saying that I don't know what goes on in the kpop and jpop industry? Keke).
EverCool
QUOTE (zhuuzhuusoba @ Sep 20 2008, 04:59 PM) *
I didn't mean it that way. And because no one is good enough? I don't think that's it, either. America is...different, in terms of how things are done. Lots of artists come in and fade out really fast, but not all. I'm just saying that Boa could maybe break through the American music market, though it will probably take a lot of time.

And what I meant by "why Boa would want to go to the American music industry" is seriously, why? She's doing just fine in Japan and Korea. (Personally, I think she should be doing a comeback in Korea, but you know, SME likes to surprise us). I didn't mean that America's music industry is 'evil', lol. I meant that she has her hands full already... (I'm not saying that American music is evil, btw. I was just stating that I preferred Asian music).

Sure, what I'm saying may be ridiculous, but this is just my opinion. I am entitled to one, no? tongue.gif (And aren't you assuming a lot? Saying that I don't know what goes on in the kpop and jpop industry? Keke).


If you did you wouldn't have made that dumb comment. Apop is just as bad as any other country. Only we pretty open about it but other countries seem to.. hide it.
zhuuzhuusoba
Uh...okay. I'll just leave now - this is kind of going no where. You keep ignoring the purpose of my comments, and nitpicking only certain parts. *shrugs*

Good luck to Boa in America. :]
Sam Sik
QUOTE (zhuuzhuusoba @ Sep 20 2008, 02:23 PM) *
laugh.gif Whoa, chill. It's just my opinion. From my point of view and preferences, I like the mainstream Kpop ballads and rock music, as well as Jpop. I just don't like American rap music, or cliche love songs, or songs about how a girl's body moves or something. But that doesn't mean I don't like all American songs - I still find a few I like. Generally though, I prefer Jpop and Kpop to American music.


... Do you know how many love cliche songs are in the Japanese/Korean music industry? I wasn't bashing your preferences on music. It's just silly to think that America is the only country to have mindless mainstream music (which isn't, considering that you managed to miss other genres which are also mainstream, such as alternative, indie, rock, metal, etc.) For example, am I supposed to take Tell Me or So Hot by Wondergirls seriously? Or any song done by those korean pop groups seriously? It's all meaningless.

QUOTE (zhuuzhuusoba @ Sep 20 2008, 02:59 PM) *
And what I meant by "why Boa would want to go to the American music industry" is seriously, why? She's doing just fine in Japan and Korea. (Personally, I think she should be doing a comeback in Korea, but you know, SME likes to surprise us). I didn't mean that America's music industry is 'evil', lol. I meant that she has her hands full already... (I'm not saying that American music is evil, btw. I was just stating that I preferred Asian music).

Sure, what I'm saying may be ridiculous, but this is just my opinion. I am entitled to one, no? tongue.gif (And aren't you assuming a lot? Saying that I don't know what goes on in the kpop and jpop industry? Keke).


Actually, as Lucasbunny had mentioned before, she's not doing as well as she wants to because of the number of people that pirate in Japan and Korea. Moving to America will give her a better chance of success in terms of money. People want her to do a comeback in Korea, but her sales will decrease and that's not what she wants. She would feel like nobody wants to support her. Going to America would give her a fresh start.
TygrrLilly
I've been a BoA fan since her debut. But if they are seriously planning on letting her debut with the American version of the pv, they should just not waste their time. It looks really cliche and rather low budget. The Korean pv is much more impressive.
Daiquiri
I think another reason she wants to do this is because it's been a dream she's had for some time. She's always expressed in past interviews how she wanted to break into the American industry. I think it's very brave of her to even try because it's very hard to succeed here in the States, even if they do well overseas.

As for people saying the reason Asian artists never succeed here in the US is because they're not good enough, I don't believe that. If you look in the entertainment industry as a whole (here in the U.S.) you'll see it's a very small community of Asian artists. It's not because they're not good enough, more so than there is a stereotype that follows Asians. We're supposed to be behind the scenes, the smarty pants, and the do-gooder. It's very rare to see an Asian actor headline a movie.

I do admit the mv looks cheap and weird but I give her props for at least trying. It would be great to see an Asian artist successfully debut here in U.S. mainstream media. Her English still has a long way to go but it's improved. I can understand what she's saying now. English is a very hard language to learn if it's not a native tongue, so for the people who say it's hard to understand her, you have understand that learning to speak a language fluently is not an easy feat. I would like to see some of you try to master a foreign perfectly within a few years. It takes time.
LucasBunny
QUOTE (EverCool @ Sep 20 2008, 04:29 PM) *
But what you are saying is ridiculous. Every country is like this. Me personally I don't like Japan music because how freaky it is. But I'm not going to be like "I don't know why anyone would want to go there because of the freakiness" No! I wouldn't say that because its stupid. Thats great you don't like american music. But don't make like it evil or something. You don't know what goes on in the kpop and jpop industry.


and this is very true

*cough Koda Namie Hyori Taebin Masta Wu cough*
colloquy
QUOTE (EverCool @ Sep 19 2008, 08:26 PM) *
Brit Brit is original. Name one person like her in the game now? Exactly.

-long pause- ....

LOL

OMG.

I couldn't read anymore, can't take anything you say seriously.

All Britney Spears is an overproduced, oversexed artist that makes generic, bad music that doesn't even sell to America anymore (her last album was a bad flop). To call her 'original' is really pushing the envelope.

And the reason nobody else isn't in the "game" like her? Because it's not selling anymore.
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