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Chojo
Hey peeps, I"m pretty new here ... but anyways... cool.gif

Does anyone know if there's much of Chinese Hip-Hop/R&B industry? It seems like right now our music scene is dominated mostly by slow ballads, slow "rock" songs, overly happy bubblegum pop or "power pop". I mean, it's pretty good, and since the Chinese music biz is so focused on stuff like ballads, it's probably the best at producing slow songs, but it's hard to say the same for other genres I guess?

So do you guys know of any Chinese Hip-Hop/RnB artists? I'm really interested because I"m always trying to find new talented Chinese artists, haha. As for "real" Hip-hop/RnB artists I only know Khalil Fong, MC Hotdog (he kinda gets annoying though), MC Witness, and Nicky Lee... except Nicky Lee is Korean.... lol... but he's still a citizen of Taiwan.

I don't really count people like Jay Chou or Wang Lee Hom, Vanness Wu or David Tao as "real" hip-hop or R&B cause if you look at their whole discography, they probably a little more than half of their songs are just the slow ballad type.. haha.. but that's just me. You could count them too if you want, but it's just my own opinion. But even bands like Nan Quan Ma Ma seem to have more "mellow and chilled out" music than upbeat stuff.

So basically, does anyone know of any good Chinese hip-hop/R&B?

And also, what's everyone's thoughts on the "mellow/chill music" and ballad-dominated Chinese music industry?

Discuss! laugh.gif
Chojo
Annnnnyyybody know? haha..
yh126
aha. u've made me think.

i think.. none.
mizzxangie
haha idk about 'good' cuz i don't really listen to it XDD
but there's like... Yin Ts’ang, Redstar, Dumdue, THP Family, D Evil,
Hi Bomb/ 黑棒, Dragon Tongue/龙门阵, MP4, MC沙洲, LMF,
really though, there's not much chinese hip hop that i know of XD
mainstream, at least XD yeah, that's all i can think of right now =/
_smiLe
chinese hip hop? ummm.. fama? mc yan? lmf?
Tonyc402
Check out 24Herbs if you want cantonese rap, they are pretty good imo. Also check out 小宇(Xiao Yu) Taiwanese R&B singer , his debut album is really good and has a very good soulful R&B voice ,as well he writes his own songs.
emma_fifth
Machi Didi??
but i haven't heard his songs lately.
Xiaoba1tu
The only good hip-hop song I like is:

Superman by NESE

I know the mv is bad, but the song itself is a lot better.
Scy91
don't know much, but try Tension, they're an R&B group. i don't think they come out with music anymore, but they are still pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96BUShbcbaM...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zj9eIeICQY...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m1XI9A0AqY

i listen to a lot of American R&B/Soul, so i don't think there are any truly great Chinese R&B/Soul artists because most Chinese people just aren't born with those kind of vocals.
JING-JING
QUOTE (Tonyc402 @ Feb 16 2009, 06:51 AM) *
Check out 24Herbs if you want cantonese rap, they are pretty good imo. Also check out 小宇(Xiao Yu) Taiwanese R&B singer , his debut album is really good and has a very good soulful R&B voice ,as well he writes his own songs.

I second Xiao Yu. His music is really good.
arandomasian
This thread got me thinking. I guess there aren't really a lot of big name hiphop/RnB singers. People like Jay, Jolin and Leehom do some occasional hiphop sings but they are mostly pop. Khalil is old school RnB for sure but with a distinct Chinese infusion. He's excellent. We don't really have our versions of Big Bang or Epik High, or even Wonder Girls(S.H.E is ALL pop ballads).
heartdrops
QUOTE (Tonyc402 @ Feb 16 2009, 10:51 AM) *
Check out 24Herbs if you want cantonese rap, they are pretty good imo. Also check out 小宇(Xiao Yu) Taiwanese R&B singer , his debut album is really good and has a very good soulful R&B voice ,as well he writes his own songs.

I third Xiao Yu biggrin.gif.
Yeah, 24 herbs aren't bad either.
Jerrica
NESE, & maybe Jay Chou? xD I unno, some of his songs are like that.
ChengyV
Listen to Da Mouth 大嘴巴 they sing in Mandarin and theyre Hip Hop and theyre so awesome smile.gif
v3rmillion
Fama! They're from HK though, but I think they're pretty decent. smile.gif

and this site (http://asianrapworldwide.blogspot.com/) also showcases some Chinese artists
ashley-x3
oh, im recently obsessed with this hong kong singer, haha
his style is more the r&b type and his songs are super =]
try LOVE SONG, really awesome happy.gif
his name: KHALIL FONG - 方大同 ... from hawaii! but he moved to china when he was 6, he's 25 now
mintcracker
QUOTE (arandomasian @ Feb 17 2009, 06:51 PM) *
This thread got me thinking. I guess there aren't really a lot of big name hiphop/RnB singers. People like Jay, Jolin and Leehom do some occasional hiphop sings but they are mostly pop. Khalil is old school RnB for sure but with a distinct Chinese infusion. He's excellent. We don't really have our versions of Big Bang or Epik High, or even Wonder Girls(S.H.E is ALL pop ballads).


S.H.E has alot of fast songs o_O
what are you talking about

they do half half really.


Wilber pan has some fast songs that are good. JJ lin too.


Jay has some nice songs too.
Chojo
QUOTE (arandomasian @ Feb 17 2009, 12:51 AM) *
This thread got me thinking. I guess there aren't really a lot of big name hiphop/RnB singers. People like Jay, Jolin and Leehom do some occasional hiphop sings but they are mostly pop. Khalil is old school RnB for sure but with a distinct Chinese infusion. He's excellent. We don't really have our versions of Big Bang or Epik High, or even Wonder Girls(S.H.E is ALL pop ballads).


Hmm.. yeah, I agree with you, we don't really have any groups that are dedicated MOSTLY to hip hop or R n B; we mostly got pop artists that occasionally do some hip hop/ R n B here and there. I'm just hoping that soon we'll get some more variety in the music business, haha...

Anyways, thanks for all your suggestions guys! I'll be sure to check them all out!

BTW... hmm is it just the videos I saw or is that Xiao Yu guy mostly do the slow love song thing too?
Chojo
QUOTE (ChengyV @ Feb 18 2009, 03:01 AM) *
Listen to Da Mouth 大嘴巴 they sing in Mandarin and theyre Hip Hop and theyre so awesome smile.gif


WHOA.... holy crap... haha sweet this is exactly what I'm talking about!! Thanks for letting me know about them!!!!!!!

I think these guys are one of the only REAL Chinese hip hop groups (not including underground or indie ones that we don't know about ... lol) out there... wow... This is JUST what I was looking for biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Wow... I take back what I said about agreeing how Chinese people don't have their own Big Bang or Epik High... you guys should really check them out! I haven't seen anything like this in Chinese music since... ever... wow. I don't have words.. hahaha... I'm so freaking happy.. sweatingbullets.gif

For all of you that haven't heard them yet, check this music video out, it's called 緊箍咒: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4zuIheGQFQ

It's a really upbeat hip-hop/rnB song... with all these love ballads floating around with other artists, you'd never expect people to make something like that... tongue.gif

And also, here's another song if you like the more "mellow" hip hop.. and when I say "mellow", i mean it's STILL more upbeat than most of the other Chinese artist's own "upbeat songs"... but yeah this song reminds me of those rnb songs with the smooth grooves and a guy rapping over it.. it's really good too, it's called: 我就是喜歡你: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udf_m3RPwhw


These guys are the real deal, people... it's actual hip hop, none of this corny stuff we see other people doing. I'm a HUGE fan of Jay Chou, he's my favorite artist in the world, but even I must admit that some of his "hip hop" songs like "Herbalist's Manual" or "Che" sound kind of cheesy and corny... especially to these new guys I found.

Check them out!! biggrin.gif

PS: Can anyone do a biography search for these guys? I've heard that the rapper is 100% Chinese, the singer is 75% Chinese and 25% Korean, the DJ is 50% Chinese and 50% Japanese, and the female vocalist is 100% Japanese... is this true? But yeah, as long as the group's more than half Chinese, I won't feel weird calling them a Chinese group, hahaha laugh.gif
miss scarlett
^ I think most people would consider them as a Taiwanese group more than a Chinese group. But either term works. biggrin.gif

王元口力口 is the name of their album. The song you are referring to is actually called 緊箍咒. (王元口力口 is an amazing album by the way...)

Da Mouth is amazing. I don't know that much about them yet because I'm still a new fan, but they released their first album in 2007, and the year after, they won the award for Best Group at the Golden Melody Awards... which is amazing. S.H.E didn't win their's until... a couple years after they debuted. This is seriously saying something about Da Mouth's talents, and they're definitely not negelcted by the Mandopop industry. =D

Wait... I thought Harry is half Chinese, half Korean? O_O Aisa is definitely 100% Japanese... she holds a Japanese accent when she's speaking. I don't know if DJ Chunhua is half Chinese, half Japanese, but I do know that he was born in Taiwan and he lived in Japan for a while... MC 40 on the other hand is from Canada.

All I know about this group and how they started is that Aisa used to be part of this Taiwanese group called Sunday Girls. I don't know what happened to them, but they disappeared. Aisa then met DJ Chunhua (who lived in Japan for a while, so both of them could communicate in Japanese fluently), and their producers recommended them to be in one group. They then found MC 40 and Harry and formed DM.

Here are some recommended songs:

"Lean Over" (靠過來): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXEOwnyVwQc
"119": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZ498xAAA4
"The King and Queen" (國王皇后): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9jMMGJNicY
"Always By Your Side" (永遠在身邊): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPlOqyGWvbk (This song is a remake of a Japanese song.)

A lot of their songs have this old-school hip hop influence... which is awesome. smile.gif
lmaogal
the songs i like are~
1)说好的幸福呢- 周杰伦
2)爱情之所以为爱情-梁静茹
3)天下----?
4)心跳-王力宏

listen to them~
Millou
yea, da mouth is good.

I just listened to 24Herbs. Maybe it's just not my thing, but wow so many pk, tieuw ney lo mow talk ph34r.gif Not sure if the other artists who sing in mandarin also use this kind of lyrics, ah well even if they do at least i don't understand it sweatingbullets.gif
Cieran
What about Nicky Lee? I don't know, if he is Korean and sings in Chinese or if he is half Chinese and half Korean.
brightlight
Lu Hu... but he doesn't have a CD out, but you can find some of his songs here:

I like 爸爸妈妈去上班我上幼儿园 and 再听妈妈的话
http://mp3.baidu.com/m?z=0&cl=3&ct...BB%A2&pn=30

Allen Su's Preface:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7qAtjZkBwc
I have a feeling he has a bunch of R&B songs written already... but he's in Lu Hu's company, which means the chances of him releasing an album anytime soon is close to zero....and most of the songs he came out with aren't his


Also:
Anson Hu, to an extent

Bibi Zhou (she's worked with Nicky Lee before) , to an extent

The Flowers
theLOSER
Tensions good and Nicky lee AND JJ LIN! smile.gif
__sleepyhead

HK is mainly pop and ballads. It's rare to find any good hip-hop / r&b in the HK music industry. T___T

miss scarlett
^ Hins Cheung actually makes very nice R&B songs but that's only a portion of his music. The rest are ballads, lol. And there's also Khalil Fong... but he doesn't even sing in Cantonese wtf XD

QUOTE (Millou @ Feb 23 2009, 07:28 AM) *
I just listened to 24Herbs. Maybe it's just not my thing, but wow so many pk, tieuw ney lo mow talk ph34r.gif Not sure if the other artists who sing in mandarin also use this kind of lyrics, ah well even if they do at least i don't understand it sweatingbullets.gif

Mandarin also uses similar vulgar language in their hip hop, but probably not as much as Cantonese hip hop, considering that Cantonese hip hop is less mainstream than their Mandarin counterpart. It's kinda sad that HK lacks such an industry. I really want Hong Kong to have a Cantonese Se7en or Big Bang or something of that sort. It will sound awesome. T_T

QUOTE (Cieran @ Feb 23 2009, 07:25 PM) *
What about Nicky Lee? I don't know, if he is Korean and sings in Chinese or if he is half Chinese and half Korean.

Nicky Lee is full Korean, born in America (or lived in America, don't remember.) He joined Machi in 2003 and got really famous, later releasing his own solo albums. I heard that he actually released a few albums in Korea before but wasn't very successful, so he changed directions to Taiwan.
Millou
^ Yea, it'd be nice if HK has some groups like Big Bang (I just know their Lies and Strong Baby songs, and no vulgar lyrics) or something like Da Mouth
_dax_
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