ok i felt like changing the subject a bit

i feel, i'm sure a lot of you too think there are so many problems with how people eat, not exercise(i'm one of these too but i'm trying to change), drugs (legal illegal except um that... good kind of illegal drug), and stubbornness to change anything.

Like in the discrimination against big boned individuals thread, I know it is wrong to single out people and some people are more prone to gaining weight faster then others. But I mean something has to change.

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well people have been taking drugs to cure diseases, conditions etc since whenever, but it has been like an epidemic since the 90s. the pharmaceutical industry keeps making drugs to fix or help every single condition, some seem like are made up by them; and people give into it and take them as a quick fix.

personally i don't like taking drugs - just the idea of having to take something everyday - i don't like it, but i guess i am lucky i dont have any of those health problems, conditions that might require them.

i know some of you do take these prescription drugs to help you get through the day, whether it be to take betas so u don't freak out or for something more serious like for diabetes.


i was just wondering what you guys thought of this subject, if you agreed with me that the pharm industry needs a fix(in that people are just filling themselves with pills) or if there is a good reason why there are drugs for people that shake their leg constantly.

*i dont know if there is a drug for that but i wouldnt be surprised
*and i was sure this topic would've gotten bant if i was talking about the not legal kind of drugs knowing the mods in here

TL;DR version:
people need to change the way they eat and i don't like how drug centered the country is

I don't take any medications but I've had vaccinations and antibiotics in the past. Many of us would owe our lives to pharmcos and not know it, considering the average working-class life expectancy at birth was around 30 years up until the 20th century.

Yeah I think certain drugs, eg. ADHD meds and antidepressants, can in some cases be given to patients a bit too quickly but the drugs themselves have their place. As for a good reason why there are drugs for people who shake their legs constantly - perhaps they like to drive or walk places, and sleep.

I agree with you NyXpan. I work partly in a pharma industry and the money made from them is insane. I was listening to this audio tape once where it said how a doctor and a pharmacist was coming with ideas on how to get more money just by common disorders. They were silly ones though.

I don't take prescription drugs neither do I ever want to in the near future. I think it's just bad overall.

Currently in my cabinet...

Imitrex
Lunesta
Wellbutrin
Condeine
Guaifen
Cephalexin
Benzatropine
Ortho-tri cyclen

buuuut... I don't pay more than $30 a bottle for any of these.

I agree with you on the subject that trying to take the least amount of medicines are a godo thing, but I strongly disagree that the pharmaceutical companies make up diseases. Yes, there are a lot of drugs and prescriptions out there, but you do realize that there are just THAT many?

A lot of the bad reputation medicines get it mainly because of ignorance. There are many types of the same drug out there, because people are different. Period. For example, an allergy medicine may work for you and your family, but if I try it, it may not work, so I would take another brand/type. Also, drugs aren't made to "cure" disease. They are to maintain the current state and help control or prevent. I.e. Penacillin saved millions of people (some of us wouldn't be here today if they didn't figure that out for our ancestors). It didn't cure the cases of bactrium getting into the human body making it ill. It either destroyed the bacteria or prevented (if taken in the correct time).

But to stay on topic, there are some bad companies that do create stupid drugs like weight loss pills or whatever. It's just shocking that people group those companies together with companies that are actually trying to cure things. If not cure, at least maintain or prevent.

As for that shaking leg example, there are some people that really can't control it.

This!

My roommate and I have to take different brands of BC pills. I'm on a much higher concentration that she is. If she were to take the brand I do she would clot.

Lunesta works for for me though I have to take a higher dosage but I don't have any side effects. She gets awful cotton mouth and cramps if she takes Lunesta so she takes Ambien and she's fine. My bf has ridiculously adverse reactions to Lunesta; hallucinating and sleep walking and severe anxiety attacks. If he needed a sleep aid, he'd have to take something else.

i sell drugs...
drugs are a total rip off. insurance companies and pharmas just want to get rich scamming people. i feel bad for people when their insurance covers nothing.

what makes me more mad is when the pharmas make a "less potent" drug, market it for years making millions, then come out with "slightly different" version of it and makes millions again because its technically a different drug.

e.g.,
prilosec to nexium
prevacid to kapidex
celexa to lexapro
adderall to dexedrine, vyvanse, etc.

another thing that makes me mad is, drug companies dont want to develop "cures." they want to develop drugs that people need to take their WHOLE lives. so, all their R&D money goes into those. they dont care about curing cancer unless it involves biologicals which other companies could never make when the patents expire.

there needs to be change.

I've been a pharmacy tech for over two years, an here in Louisiana, at least where i work, we don't just dispense medications to patients, we check drug interactions and call doctors when necessary!

I don't agree that the pharmaceuticals or manufacturers are making up diseases to sell their products. They just come out with new drugs to charge patient more because it is "new" and does not have a "generic".

We get b*itched at by rude and ignorant customers everyday because of insurances. Which people tend to blame it on the pharmacy, but they don't realize that the insurance companies are the one that have preferred lists of medications, and we don't have anything to do with it.

Wasn't there a recent study of late that found that a large portion of the prescription drugs available over the counter had the same effect as sugar pill?

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How can it be an over-the-counter drug if it's prescription? Over-the-counter drugs are generally the drugs you can take without a prescription, a.k.a. non-prescription drugs. They're usually available over the counter because their effects and side effects are mild enough that there's a low risk of extreme complications from using them without consulting a doctor, hence it's not that surprising that a lot of them don't do a whole lot.

lol chances are, those drugs are created by different companies to make money. It is a different drug, but probably with the same mechanism of action. You say you sell drugs, so I'm sure you know why companies are busting out new drugs every year.

Also, some diseases are chronic and are impossible to cure. Diabetes, hypertension, etc. You can't just have a panacea or a cure all. We know that's not possible.

and we have cured some cancers! You just blasts those suckers with radiation! haha depending what kind of cancer. Tamoxifen for breast cancer or methrotrexate for lots of stuff.

Exactly. It's the difference between Giant Brand cereal and the name brand.

My roommate is highly neurotic and just generally gets worked up very easily. Her blood pressure is through the roof and she's barely 30. The natural answer would be for her to reduce her stress factors; unfortunately, this isn't always [/usually isn't] possible so she pops Xanax like Pez.

I was talking about just this topic with my father this morning after taking him to refill his Rx. The only people that really complain about Rx drugs are the people that don't have to take them and say things like "I don't like the idea of having to take a pill every day." People that don't need them and people that don't think they need them, ie the crazies.

I admit it. I trolled and didn't read a single thing.

why aren't there more natural alternatives in the pharm industry as opposed to chemical compounds ?

you cant patent plants so we stick we rather take stuff that will give up blood in the stool dizziness and chance of death just sop we can line their filthy cigar top hat wearing asses