SophiaSan
Aug 17 2006, 09:18 PM
Well I know SM Town is really big on promoting and advertising you. And EEG has really big artists like Twins, Edison Chen, Andy Lau?
But the thing is SM Town is probaly going to make me learn Korean, which is going to be hard for me because I'm so "americanized". And my chinese isn't all that great either.
Thanks for the help everyone

I'm not even sure if this topic belongs in this section xD
Justalilodreamer
Aug 17 2006, 09:40 PM
EEG is full of talentless people, the only Joey and a few can actually sing
iluxxx
Aug 17 2006, 09:52 PM
^ Exactly, I totally second that.
So I'd say SM Town? ;D
luluchan
Aug 17 2006, 09:57 PM
EEG is crap..sorry to say
they have JOEY..thats it~and mayb Eason~(he's EEG right)
Twins...yeah they're big...but as for talent-wise...none
edison only has the looks~
Don't expect to get training form EEG too..or useful training
i heard Isabella was trained for like 3 yrs..since she was 13..debut at 16..and look at her...she cant sing or dance either...

go for SM la...
at least they have good training....and you do get to learn singing and dancing~!
Malice_Kaiser
Aug 17 2006, 10:46 PM
QUOTE(Justalilodreamer @ Aug 18 2006, 12:40 AM) [snapback]3488254[/snapback]
EEG is full of talentless people, the only Joey and a few can actually sing
Sad to say it but I agree.

SM Town for me.
m a t e r i a l * g i r l
Aug 17 2006, 10:51 PM
if u get picked for SMTOWN, you'd be able to work in korea, china, japan.. etc etc
whereas none of the koreans know about emperor entertainment? at least i dont..
bana
Aug 18 2006, 12:59 AM
Why not try another company.
JYP? DSP?
ongi3000
Aug 18 2006, 01:04 AM
well uhh there were rumours about EEG being dodgy and all and that some head gangster guy runs it etc.
15;;1/2
Aug 18 2006, 01:40 AM
SM Town. I don't think it'll be so hard even if you're Americanized. Well..Micky is Americanized and also Stephanie of TSZX... XD
joongie;love
Aug 18 2006, 01:52 AM
SM TOWN.
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But the thing is SM Town is probaly going to make me learn Korean, which is going to be hard for me because I'm so "americanized". And my chinese isn't all that great either.
Well you're in Soompi, if you like Korean that much you'd be willing to learn it

Anyways, SM because they have awesome trainers !
cee.jay
Aug 18 2006, 02:08 AM
Why are you only limiting yourself to SM?
Why not try YG, DSP or JYP?
SM is really heavy on looks and if you think you have alot of talent you should really try for JYP or something.
Lol I'm not too fond of the way SM treats its trainees.
huangmeixi
Aug 18 2006, 04:02 AM
SM Town
- Probably harder to get into since you're not Korean
- You will tour Asia since SM is really big on tapping into the Chinese market and Japanese market and other markets as well. EEG doesn't really seem to care about the other markets.
- You get to meet BoA, DBSG, SuJu, and the Trax, and Kangta.
EEG
- Probably easier to get into if you don't need talent
- If you get to be in movies, your movie will be more likely to shown in America since more Chinese than Korean movies get shown here/ get into international awards festivals. Although Hong Kong movies...not so sure. But Isabella Leung was nom at the Berlin Film Festival for her role in Isabella and she's an EEG performer.
- You get to meet Edison Chen, Shawn Yue, Nic Tse, Twins, and Isabella Leung.
Personally if you were going to go for the Korean option, I'd choose SM Town, because I think they're the best at promoting, and they make the most famous groups.
H.O.T., Shinwa, DBSG, SES...
gnolmik
Aug 18 2006, 04:20 AM
Why can't you go for both and keep your options open?
vannushka
Aug 18 2006, 05:37 AM
Andy Lau isn't signed under EEG and Eason has left EEG. I don't know much about SMtown but with EEG, you either do VERY well and get promoted or you sink like the titantic.
amydien
Aug 18 2006, 05:42 AM
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Why can't you go for both and keep your options open?
I agree with gnolmik. Audition for both to see what it's like.....although I think SM will do a better job at training and promoting you
SophiaSan
Aug 18 2006, 01:23 PM
lol thanks for everyones help

Well I'm auditioning for SM TOWN on Sep.13th since SM TOWN is having a world audition thingy?
xD And I'm going to Hong Kong on Sep.26th so I guess I can try for both?
Thanks for helping everybody! Heheh And yes I'm willing to learn Korean, like Han Geng

But I'm just scared for SM TOWN because they're soo big and all xD
edit:
well if sm town goes china/japan/and korea i can read/write/speak japanese. and i can speak cantonese however i can understand mandarin but speak very little xDDD
so yeah!! do i have an advatange or something? o.o;;
lo0say
Aug 18 2006, 07:57 PM
the reason why the sm town people are so successful is becoz they have awesome training
so go with sm town
edit:
good luck with ur auditions and it's good to keep ur options open
wendee
Aug 18 2006, 08:13 PM
good luck on your auditions!!!
it`s good to be open minded on these kind of things~
LACE
Aug 18 2006, 08:30 PM
I agree that EEG has barely any talented people (and I think Joey is only an okay singer; kind of overrated) and Eason...I just don't like him. But he's not under there so whatever.
I would say go for both, or more though. Because the more options you have, the better chance you get the one you want or the next best thing.
bonbons
Aug 18 2006, 11:13 PM
SM TOWN .... training+a LOT of celebs that have TALENT!
kiki
Aug 19 2006, 08:16 AM
Sm has a lot of trainees... keep that in mind.. a lot of them quit in the past.. Lee JunKi, Jang Nara, WheeSung and Hyori.... they all made it big as well, now under SM, but think.. how long they would've had to wait for SM to make them into a group if they didn't quit.
I say go for Eeg... even though I'm not familiar with it. haha... but yeah.. go for all of the ones you can get your hand on.
SailorBoy62
Aug 19 2006, 06:32 PM
EEG seems really dodgy and they have a tendency to not really promote their artists that well, aside from Joey Yung and Twins. As well, EEG is a HK based record label, and if you do get in and your Canto is deemed sketchy by the HK public, your career can be pretty much doomed.
SMTown, if you make it in there's no guarantee that you'll debut, however, if you do debut, their promotion for their artists as of late has been astronomically better than it has been for the past 2 or 3 years.
I say audition for both just in case, but choose SMTown if you get into both.
AL_NT_ATT
Aug 19 2006, 06:38 PM
^ o0ohh nicee... wouldn't hurt to try both right? if EEG singers are talentless, then maybe you can break in WITH talent. don't forget that YOU are the one who is going to be shown all around so if you work hard head on, i don't see why you can't do well. if those talentless people can't sing, that's their problem. if YOU can sing, nobody can take that ability away from you. if you need to learn korean for SM then go for it! no one said it's easy but hard work is good. and if your chinese is bad, you can always brush up and practice. =)
smilene
Aug 19 2006, 07:45 PM
EEG is pretty shady from what I hear. But you could try both anyway. How do you try out for EEG anyway? Just go directly to the company??
;jenna
Aug 20 2006, 01:11 AM
SM town! it's hard work, but it's gona be worth it. =D
xserene
Aug 20 2006, 11:27 AM
I've never actually heard of EEG.. so I can't really say, but I'm not so sure about SM either.. I'm sure it takes a really long time to debut cause they'll probably train you for like what, six years. You probably won't debut anytime soon... I don't know, I would try for another label company.
Maybe YG and JYP. I like those labels
taceldi
Aug 20 2006, 11:30 AM
Why can't you audition for both? Chances are, one will like you more than the other.
w1f3_0f_x14h_junsu
Aug 20 2006, 11:35 AM
i was in the same situation as you a while ago...i couldnt decide between the two...
i chose SM
misshappii
Aug 20 2006, 12:02 PM
If you want to stand out yourself easily, go join EEG.

You might stay in Hong Kong forever though. You could go promote in Taiwan or China if you becomes famous like Joey Yung, Eason Chen and Twins.
However, SM Town is a recording company which will actually train you. You will have to work very hard with this path because you will have to compete with all the talented people in Korea who can sing well. They will provide you better music. Unlike EEG which gives you plain pop music.
kkkkk
Aug 20 2006, 01:10 PM
QUOTE(LACE @ Aug 19 2006, 12:30 PM) [snapback]3497943[/snapback]
I agree that EEG has barely any talented people (and I think Joey is only an okay singer; kind of overrated) and Eason...I just don't like him. But he's not under there so whatever.
I would say go for both, or more though. Because the more options you have, the better chance you get the one you want or the next best thing.
i think you're pretty damn wrong about joey being only an
okay singer. dont judge before you've seen enough of her. (from what i've seen and heard, she is good. her live is solid solid solid) maybe she is overrated.. but she is not
just okay. the same goes for eason. he is awesome awesome awesome. he is no longer with EEG though. (yes, i am bias. but i have ears.)
off topic. anyway.
i think the main consideration is whether you are more suitable for the korean market (which means the asia market) or the hongkong market. so language is going to be an issue. stick to the one you're more comfortable with.
but i think mostly. it is if you're talented or not. if you have what it takes any agency will take you. (but choose wisely.)
good luck.
pillowbox
Aug 20 2006, 05:25 PM
sm town (= definitely man! eeg = talentless people ;__;
KooZyAnn
Aug 20 2006, 05:51 PM
I don't think Edison is part of EEG anymore because they made him do stuff like sing songs he didn't like and such. One of his albums he had to use his own money for it instead fo the label....
I've heard negatives and rare postives about both labels. I vote for neither if there was an option.
ladeyxsuzie
Aug 20 2006, 06:00 PM
hm. this is very interesting because i thought that auditioning for a company would be really hard. especially if you lived like on the opposite side of the world LOL at first i wanted to audition for JYPE but that was only so i can see Bi if i ever get the chance haha and besides i'm not korean or anything but would it be possible to make it big over in korea if you're not?! thats my big question of all.. so if any one got any advice or tips or comments get back at me i'm so curious lol x3`1
heartdrops
Aug 20 2006, 06:22 PM
SM Town! Please not EEG.. most of the people there are not that talented.
SophiaSan
Aug 20 2006, 11:31 PM
hmm problem is, i'm a okay singer.
and like my friends say i have potential to be a good singer
if i keep working on it
do you think sm town will see that "potential"? o.o;;
the thing with sm town is the debuting thing, 7 years wow! but I'm glad because I can finish with high school and college

and also sm town auditions and such seems really competitive xD
eeg is just like...really easy to get into xD
"and if you do get in and your Canto is deemed sketchy by the HK public, your career can be pretty much doomed."
my canto, deemed sketchy? what does that mean xD
Bi=Oh
Aug 21 2006, 10:21 AM
QUOTE(ladeyxsuzie @ Aug 20 2006, 09:00 PM) [snapback]3515991[/snapback]
hm. this is very interesting because i thought that auditioning for a company would be really hard. especially if you lived like on the opposite side of the world LOL at first i wanted to audition for JYPE but that was only so i can see Bi if i ever get the chance haha and besides i'm not korean or anything but would it be possible to make it big over in korea if you're not?! thats my big question of all.. so if any one got any advice or tips or comments get back at me i'm so curious lol x3`1
if you audition for smtown and jype if your not korean most likely thye won't market you in korea . they will market you in china/taiwan if your chinese... etc..
swtamy83
Aug 21 2006, 10:53 AM
Umm......I suggest looking at some other Korean company other than Sm because you might be out in a 12-members group.....hahaha! Try YG Family.........they have talents such as Se7en and Big Bang.
boa_fan929
Aug 21 2006, 12:09 PM
Which market do you want to aim for? SM is trying to go across Asia, they have the upper hand in Korea/Japan whereas EEG has the upperhand in the Chinese market... Do you want to stay only in singing or do you want to branch off to acting as well? If you go into EEG, you'll most likely will go acting in movies, tv dramas etc. whereas SM, the chances may not be that high. Also, both companies have good promotion for their artists, not just SM.
QUOTE(huangmeixi @ Aug 18 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]3490500[/snapback]
EEG
- You get to meet Edison Chen, Shawn Yue, Nic Tse, Twins, and Isabella Leung.

Shaen Yue isn't part of EEG.
QUOTE(sb62345 @ Aug 19 2006, 10:32 PM) [snapback]3506400[/snapback]
As well, EEG is a HK based record label, and if you do get in and your Canto is deemed sketchy by the HK public, your career can be pretty much doomed.
What do you mean sktechy? Do you mean not good?
SailorBoy62
Aug 21 2006, 12:16 PM
HK and Chinese people are discriminating in general. Being "sketchy" means anything that could make you seem as if:
1. You're not fluent in Canto, or
2. You're not Chinese enough
A lot of things are nitpicked if you're not from Hong Kong or from a Cantonese speaking region. Things like oral comprehension, vocabulary, accent, pronunciation, any one of those things can be pretty much a red flag to the HK audience. While it doesn't necessarily mean you can't make it in the Canto-pop industry, it's a big strike against you. Even Edison Chen, who's made a huge career in Asia, is often times criticized for his Chinese speaking skills.
boa_fan929
Aug 21 2006, 07:20 PM
^Sometimes. But Janice made it big and some TVB actors/actresses have made it big even with their weak Cantonese skills.
vannushka
Aug 22 2006, 01:39 AM
OKAY! Edison and Shawn aren't technically part of EEG, and Eason has left EEG.
EEG really knows how to promote their artists well, come on. Just think Twins, little talent yet very popular.
I agree with kkkkk, I don't know what people are talking about when they say Joey's "okay". Mind you she's probably one of the most stable HK singers out there now.
Janice was supported Leon, he was 100% behind her and she was HEAVILY promoted.
boa_fan929
Aug 22 2006, 04:41 AM
^Shawn isn't even technically part of EEG, he's not part of EEG at all. He's part of Universal.
What you said about Janice is true, she was supported by Leon. But, there are other examples, like Fiona Sit. Her Cantonese isn't that good, compared to her English.
ichigo_no_powder
Aug 22 2006, 07:09 PM
^ didn't she go to international school? that's probably why. same with kary but kary's is better than fi's.
Janice may have been fully supported my lai mun but she's still really talented, I love her voice.
Actually EEG and maybe I should say the HK music industry is in my opinion, leaning more towards the 'not pretty but talented' singers like janice, juk tin and wing yi. The EEG auditions are over for this year though...I heard some of the contestants and the girls, especially this girl who sang a jay song was amazingly good.
boa_fan929
Aug 23 2006, 04:52 AM
^Yep. Fi and Kary went to Int'l school.
To be fair to EEG, they did try to debut a more talented (less on looks) singer, Vincy. So it's not like they completely turn a blind eye on talent.
natural-retard
Aug 23 2006, 08:07 AM
SM, they are looking to target the Chinese industry which means they will look after you more and you they hope! If Jangrin doesn't do it.... Chinese music is not good so far its all rubbish but taiwanese songs, that why most EEG guys goes into acting! LOL Cos they know they can't depend on their talentless singing. SM will train you hard, so you can sing and dance....and learn other languages whihc is gonna be useful when you stop being a singer...SM are looking for dancers, singers, song writers, actors, models....so you can develop in those if you don't choose to be a singer overall.
jazzler
Aug 23 2006, 08:30 AM
If you're serious about being a pop singer, you should try out for as many entertainment companies as possible. Putting all your eggs in one basket is not a good idea unless you're absolutely sure that the one company fits you perfectly. It seems you're a bit undecided, so I would try out for both.
I don't know much about EEG, since I don't follow the HK music industry, but I would say that SM Entertainment has questionable promotion of their artists. I think they retain a lot of control over their trainees, so people who don't want to wait, leave. I think in terms of PR, SM definitely plays favorites. It seems SuJu, DBSK and BoA get way more PR than the other acts, even say Kangta. Smaller entertainment companies may be more invested in promoting you because there is more at stake in your success, whereas SM I think milks BoA and currently DBSK, particularly since they are doing so well in Japan. (Japan's music industry is a far more lucrative place than Korea's.)
SophiaSan
Aug 23 2006, 09:44 PM
^
SM Town seems so competitive and I really can't sing well xD
But I have like less than a 2 months to work on my voice/dancing xD
but thanks everyone for your help

Hmm it does seem like SM TOWN is targetting the Chinese scene
but then again I'm not a mainlander T.T
tengteng
Aug 23 2006, 11:22 PM
Though I'm not sure who trains people in the SM town, but I think it's better than eeg.
BOBA:)
Aug 24 2006, 12:21 AM
EEG is crap. -___- Go for SM
*.:StarryEyeSurprise:.*
Aug 24 2006, 12:33 AM
ummm...If you really can't sing well, why are you even auditioning??
I mean how well do you sing at the moment? Much better than most HK singers I hope bc the younger generation sucks alot.
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