How would you define rap? Do you judge American and Asian rap by the same criteria? Or do you see them as two different categories- in terms of style, rhythm, feel....
just wondering what your thoughts are..

thanks...

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i don't mean to ask which rap is better or which you like better cuz it's obvious there are good and bad in each and everyone's got their own tastes. Just wondering if you think that asian rap's destination is to be like american rap or do you think it's going towards another destination- towards the creation of a subgenre- that is like american rap but something different. like jazz vs. acid jazz and pop vs. pop rock.

no offense....but

american rap, directed more to the hip hop scene is getting seriously overrated

like the whole: money, cars, girls, pimping this and that, bling, grills..etcetc

yeahhhhh xD
i personally think asian rap is....weird just because they rap about weird things or maybe its me? the whole asian hip hop scene is starting to grow more and more now. so yeah

Maybe I'm the only one who sees it, but it seems in American rap, that "hip hop" lifestyle carries into...everything..it's literally their life. In Asian rap for the most part it seems to be part of the music, but at the end of the day they're still themselves without worrying about how "street" they are. I prefer this, actually, and agree with the overratedness of mainstream rap in America

Style wise, rap here is moving into newer styles while Asian rap has a feel of older hip hop to it (same with their r&b artists)

i feel like american rap sometimes is more authentic (or used to be becuase of the things they rapped about like eminem's early stuff and some dr dre) but now i feel like its overrated b/c all they do is rap about cars, money sex and women. asian rap for the most part is more mainstream (pop lovers still like it) and i feel like its more universal because they are able to sing as well.

Mm.. what about American and Asian underground rap artists?

Asian mainstream rap is a joke.
American mainstream is above it.

However....American underground is good stuff....followed by the Asian underground.




-Luna-

i like jay chou's rap...

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omg me too! i think its actually pretty decent.


EDISON CHEn...should stop rapping..forever. AHAHAH

Personally i preffer American Hip-Hop, im a big dead prez fan and just copped the new a-alikes album. As for asian rappers i listened to some m flo and DT but right now my ears are focussed on asian americans such as flowsik,shogunna,chan, and rook.

you can't compare American rap to Asian rap in my opinion...why? Hip hop is all about swagger and it's a lifestyle, most Asian rappers just don't live that lifestyle....you don't see many of em backpackin or nothin...but places like Brooklyn, L.A, Oakland, dudes be on the block all day hustlin their cds out...and plus Asian rappers be rappin about some old corny stuff that ain't noone really wanna hear about...there's only two asian rappers I respect. HaNsAi and Sniper...the rest is garbage in my eyes....


now for those saying American hip hop is severely overrated, if you put Kanye, Jeezy, Lil Wayne and even Jibbz in a ring with any asian mc, and they will give it to the asian mc....


and to those who say that american hip hop is overrated now i suggest you listen to Papoose, Lupe Fiasco, .45 Cal, Hell Rell and some other folks...and thats just from the east not even the west

hmm to me i think asian rap is WAYYY MUCH better than american rap cuz when i mean asian rap i mean korea rap which means something special but like american rap is like useless talking about violence and money girls and things like which is useless hmm i never heard any other asian raps but korean and i can feel it means something~ but thats in my opinion~

^^^^YO are you serious??? Korean rap better than American rap cuz American rap spits nothing meaningful?? Yeah i admit that some Korean mcs spit about some useful stuff, but what about 90 percent of em singin about the same love story over and over again?? You don't ever get tired of hearing that stuff? Go turn on some Jurassic 5, Hieroglyphics, Atmosphere, Immortal Technique if you wanna hear some meaningful stuff cuz the stuff they be spittin be about 100 times more meaningful than whatever any Korean mc could dish out...no hate...I'm just sayin it like it is

Sad but true. But actually you might want to try underground asian stuff if you haven't already (if you're just basing off of just mainstream asian stuff). Maybe the underground asian cats actually do live the hip hop lifestyle. Actually I'm getting into some Chinese underground rap now, thanks to a friend. I took a first listen to one Chinese rapper, and I was blown away. Except for a certain number of artists, asian hip hop really disappoints me.

Most people here probably haven't even heard of one of the artists you mentioned.

Thank you!

That's like comparing black martial arts to asian martial arts.

This is a dumb discussion!

People say that american rap is nothing meaningful??
OMG please, sure they rap about guns and stuff like that, but that's real life.

and if it wasnt for american rap there would be no asian rap
in the end it all comes down to the origin.

But of course on soompi people are going to be biased and vote for asian rap.

Actually it doesn't all come down to origin. It comes down to which is better. American rap is better. Period. Maybe in a few decades or centuries or so will Asian rap compete with American rap. Of course I'm talking about the whole scene, not individual artists.

I'm not speaking on it without knowin it...I used to listen to Epik High, HaNsAi, Joosuc, Side B, BCR crew, Sniper, CB Mass, DJ Wreckx, I was all into korean hip hop for a minute, but its all the same stuff...no originality but the underground heads in America can spit about some amazing stuff you'd never expect anyone to rap about, real talk

I'm not speaking on it without knowin it...I used to listen to Epik High, HaNsAi, Joosuc, Side B, BCR crew, Sniper, CB Mass, DJ Wreckx, I was all into korean hip hop for a minute, but its all the same stuff...no originality but the underground heads in America can spit about some amazing stuff you'd never expect anyone to rap about, real talk

i do not like rap at all , but in my opinion American rap is much better because they rap about their Life style and REAL life stuffs : guns, sex, cars, gangs, drugs, cops, even political stuffs : They want to express through the rapping ... You sure will feel bored if you live outside the USA or in Asia ofcourse .... but You will know if you live in the areas in the US where you cannot go somewhere without a gun or a knife in your pockets ..... When across 10 states of America, my family make sure we have gun or knife in the cars (safety is always the best)...... and selling and buying drugs have been a big issues : I saw a cop handcuff a guy selling drug just 4, 5 steps next to me when I walking on the really nice street, my friends nerver use drugs but have cops stop their cars to search for drugs sometimes and cops DO shoot innocent black guys and girls manytimes and so on .....
One more thing : without American Rap ..... there will be No No Asian rap at all : Asian rap just try to imitate the main stream music of the world

Either way, I don't understand neither. I don't understand American rap's slang and slurs. I don't understand Korean's Hangul and Engrish.

But I'm pretty sure Koreans talk about love but more presently they're starting to mention alcohol, cars, and money.
They just don't quite refer to women as h0es, $luts, and b!tch3s.

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true


but once the asian hiphop scene stats getting into that more
im going to stop.
ahahahahha

i dont think this should even be discussed

asian rap is ass

Okay, I've listened to both. (Meaning Korean rap and American rap.) I'll say what a friend of mine said - I have a lot more respect for Korean rappers (haven't heard any Japanese or any other kind of Asian rap... someone clue me in?) because there's so many more syllables to pronounce. Also, the MVs seem a lot more fun.

It ain't about style
It ain't about rhymes
It ain't about skills
And it ain't about lines
It's all about life, maybe you'll see it in time
And then stop hatin on because I'm speakin my mind

Understand now?

Now stop discussing about which is better and go back to topic. The topic starter edited the post and wrote what he/she meant.


I think American hiphop will stay like American hiphop and Asian(basing off of Korean hiphop) will just stay the same. Because both of there unique styles, beats, and etc. I never thought of Korean rap to be like American rap because the culture is totally different. Some rappers would like to become like American rappers and some don't.

To sum it up, I think Asian rap/hiphop won't become like American rap/hiphop even though there are artists out there that would like that to happen.

Now, Mongolia Chop Squad and Jin are different. MCS has some funny stuff.

asian rap is an imitation of american rap.

simple.

That's kind of irrelevant, don't you think? Almost ALL popular music is an imitation of American music. I can't stand when people say that certain artists in other countries are trying to imitate American music...it all started here, the only way it'd be completely different is if they invented a whole new genre.

Underground stuff is better.

To me it's not about the lifestyle, all that crap that some of you insist makes hip hop, hip hop. Personally, I like Korean mainstream AND underground because the music sounds good. American hip hop is just horrible (I'm referring to the NEW stuff, not the old). The lyrics are crap, the beats are crap, with the exception of a FEW (and I mean few) artists.

To me Korean hip hop is better because it sounds better. Again, I'm not referring to lifestyle or origin, I'm talking straight up MUSIC. After all, that's what it SHOULD come down to right? Ya'll make too big of a deal about whether a person is a good rap/hip hop artist based on their background. To me that is bullsheit.

Korean mainstream IMO is better than American mainstream. I will admit that some of the mainstream korean artists DO stoop down to your average American content, but underground it totally different. It would be hard for people like LucasBunny or Luna (not attacking here, i just need examples) to understand that because you don't know what they are rapping about.

edit: don't sit there and tell me that the lyrical content in mainstream rap is "life". I'm sure rappers can find something more meaningful to rap about than b*tches and hoes, sex and money, drugs and violence. PLEASE. The only thing that can sell in America is sex. Try asking someone in Korea if that's true for their country.

and yeah, there really is no point in comparing the two. As someone stated earlier, if you're going to bash about Korean's ripping off American music, do so somewhere else where people can stoop down to your intelligence, cuz it ain't gonna fly here. Music started here in America, how are people supposed to claim their originality when it's already been done?

But of course you're an african american, you're going to be biased and vote for american rap.

Hmm... quick to judge?




Stella Starr, I applaud you. Well said, good job!

I totally agree. What NWA and Public Enemy rapped about was life. They talked about violence, prejudice, and the world in an educated manner. It American rap was still that way, It'd probably be more enjoyable.

French Rap all the way =P

Asian rap is just.. weird. The way they sing is weird, and I don't like it at all. And it's just like they're blablating.
American rap is better. If you take off all the ghetto, sexy mama, money and whatever.

I remember that I used to looove a song by NAS because it was actually what rap should be about : a message of hope and love.
"I know I can be what I wanna be, if I work hard at it, I'll be where I wanna be." And he talk to boys and girls, preventing them from being "ghetto mini cooper".
That's why I like rap.

But yeah anyway, american rap all the way.

I hate rap altogether.
But when I think of rap, I kinda think of the guys with hoodies and big 'Bling'.

^^ that's all mainstream though. It's true pretty much everything mainstream is recycled and washed up.

If you want to here some rap that is more on an intellectual level I'd recommend some Blackalicious (Gift of Gab), Sage Francis, Atmosphere, etc..

i agree. asian rap sucks arse....Name one asian artist that can even be compared to NAS.

american mainstream hiphop vs asian mainstream hiphop? ill go with american just cause i listen to it much more, i find asian rap funny [yeah no hate, im asian haha] and like i know what they rap about lol

anything underground is equal to me

actually, i think asian raps suits me more, the melody, the beat and everything about it are different.

Asian rap is more of sweet love song. If u listen to real professional asian rap (not some crappy one), rappers who dont have accents example Lil Crazed. Their flows are really nice and the beat is very original.

American rap of coures is the best bc they are the one who started it.

I, sometime perfer asian rap more than american rap. They get too violent and ganging.

and people always saying
"american rap is about sex drugs blah blah blah" ummmm that's nothing new, it's been that way for years
ummmm Sir mix alot and that "Big booty" song?? yeh 2pac "I get around"??
U listen to LL? that's what it's been like for years so people need to stop acting like it's something new.

and yes mainstream these days is about life, not all rappers talk about sex your right and we all know sex isnt the only thing that makes our rap famouse!

Nas makes inspirational songs, Common doesnt rant about sex, neither does Kanye West, Biggie made some non sexual druggie songs, but people only look at the sex part of it all.

and you have to realize where most of these rappers were raised and where they come from before you judge what they are rapping about, koreans are not bought up the way these rappers came up. it is soooo much more than the music, it comes from the heart, ummm why do you think K-fed is such a failure? because he only goes for the music and nothing else, it's not in his blood to rap.

It doesnt matter anyway, the only asian rap I like is from YG and Epik High is pretty cool, no snacky chan, no Jin the emcee none of that garbage, even I believe Jin takes rap seriously, I think his music is trash.

Doesnt matter because it's the american rap that's global and it will most likely stay that way.

and whomever said I'm only going for american rap because I'm african american?
ummmm that's pretty funny, I'm going by what it is and american rap no matter how sexual or druggie it is, it has the original roots that asian rap or any other
just doesnt have. It's like how people say anime is only good coming from japan.

and oh god who would play themselves and listen to Jay Chou??

I would rather listen to that guy from 90210 lol.

To answer the topic starter's question
I just say american rap is american rap. they are the cream of the crop!

End of discussion

must admit.. even though i think eric junjin andy and some yg boys are hot when they rap..

they're the only asians who i can stand listenin to when rapping

even though im asian myself.. idunno

i like american rap more.

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oops i didnt read first post. haha

hmm lets seeeee.. i dont realli know how to answer the topicstarters question =X

HAHA

Not to start an argument but I've never seen that as a plausible cause for someone to act a certain way and/or only rap about certain things. If you choose to be a victim to where you come from, that is your problem.

i'm korean and like i hate korean rap with passion. they serioualy do just copy off of american rap and they try to be all gangstaa, black, and street and it don't work for them. they try to be all american and that just turns me off. its easier to rap in korean too

haha. agreed.




lol I wouldn't imply that NWA rapped about life in some polite manner. they practically encouraged controversy.

And American rap still got some artists that are more enjoyable to listen to then, say, Rick Ross.

lawl yeaaaa im korean n yea asian rap is a whole difff ish lololl totally diff like it can't be compared to american rap lol jus two diff things but yea azn rap does suck azz cuz iono o.0 sounds too asian lol

Mainstream American rap (50 Cent, Eminem, whoever) is horrible. Underground American rap, however, is great and still retains genuine hip hop ideals.

A few good American rappers are,

Nas, Talib Kweli, Immortal Technique, dead prez, 2Pac (best MC in hip hop history), Rakim, Ice Cube, NWA, Public Enemy.. Those are modern and old school.

Most of the Asian rap I've heard is pop-rap that is really bad also. I'm sure there is an underground Asian rap scene though.

Ok some one is confusing Hip-Hop with main stream rap which is quite sad, you see Hip-Hop is a culture consisting of 4 elements Emceeing, Writing(graffiti), Turntablism, and B-boying. I know you think Hip-Hop culture is all about smoking tree's,sagging pants,busting guns,and flipping products but the truth may hurt its not. Hip-Hop culture originated as a way inner city youth could express them selves and have fun(yes hip-hop emceeing was originally club music). This Club Emceeing eventually evolved to many styles being created ie your west coast G-funk, Political Rap etc. Also i know many people are dissing the main stream and the rappers/emcee's who produce the music but remeber the record label has a lot of influence on the artist look at jins album the rest is history....

Now upon saying lyrical content in main stream rap isnt life, the sad fact it is life,deal with it. Have you ever lived in a slum or even stepped foot into one, hell have you even been to school and chilled with people from the "ghetto"? The answer is most likely no, because if you have you would know about the the type of mentality people carry there the sad fact is most people living there do posses the bitches and hoe im all about mines mental.

listen to theese relatively new joints.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gJBexgzak7k Visual- Impossible is nothing
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aBkXSrdxzBU vakills- its one
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dAock1tdCTY Murs- "Hustle"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=txnD03oVULA Wordsworth- Vs president bush

I have no idea where you came with NWA rapping about life in an educated manner.


There are very few American rappers that can even compare to Nas man. What was the point of even posting that?

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man... all of you need to calm down.. its a matter of opinion not a war...

american rap can be as good as asizn rap... i guess... but yeah the love stories are everywhere... even in pop and all...
american rap i personally think is more about sex and other stuff thats true about some parts of the world...
american rap can probably influence more people... than azn rap... tho... wait that depends on where you live...
i think they're about the same to me

don't really like either

well said.

american rap, most definately.
it has more cred.

The American Hip-Hop is much more Pop-orientated now, although there is an underground scene. I mean you mention hip-hop and the sound you hear is stuff like Yung Joc, Ying Yang Twins, Lil Jon, Justin Timberlake (yeah.. i know).

The Korean Hip-Hop scene seems to embrace the underground sounds of America more than their mainstream sound, although it is still their mainstream sound.