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lovefool223
I don't know if this is supposed to be in the music section but it does relate to music so i'll just put it here hehe. So I have this friend who considers herself to be very anti mainstream anti pop anti corporation and she labels herself as very original. And then i tell her about how i miss Linkin Park and how i wish they would come up with a new album. And then she straight out says "Gosh i was like one of the first people to know them way before they became popular. and after they got all mainstream i don't like them anymore"
And i realized that she's not the only person that i know that does it..alot of people online in forums and in real life says these things like " i knew that song way before it got famous and now i hate it because everyone likes it" I don't know if anyones experienced that but are you too annoyed? And why do you have to hate a band or something when they go mainstream. What is so bad about mainstream. Anyways ... tongue2.gif
Myss Blewm
hahahaha, I know a lot of people like that too. it's one thing to stop liking a band's music because they just happen to begin sucking as they get bigger, but it's something else to hate them just because they became big. But whatever, those people are stupid. You aren't cooler than anyone else just because you know a band/song first and began to hate them first. You need to get over yourself.
ur AD0RkABLE
yeahhh ! you know the word, "played out"? godddd ! it annoys me when they say things like that. -________________-;;
ace.spattervenom
Scenester elistists, something of the sort? sleep.gif"
The people who can't just like what they like. In a way, they're like, but completely the opposite of the people who only like songs/artists/whatever simply because they're famous. And it's sickening. Just ignore the rest of the world, who cares if the artist has become mainstream? or if a quater of the world is listening to them?

I know probably it's awesome to have known a band before their fame, before everyother person out there in the world like them and claims fanship. You can probably know them more personally, if you go to shows, actually be closer to them when they're playing, without barriers and thousands of other fans screaming so loud that you can't even hear their music. But dxmn, be happy that the artist you like isn't living as much of a crappy lifestyle, eating dirt, and barely getting by. Unless they actually have sold out, and are doing whatever it is they do pureply for the fame and fortune. But whatever, hate them for that reason. If you like their music, like their music.

Geez. These people need to realize that there are thousands of other people who are like them, who are just as "anti-mainstream" and crap. It's not original.
stellabella
I hate when people say that. Seriously who gives a flying freak if you liked someone before they became mainstream and all the sudden they suck because of it? Music is music, how famous you are plays no role in that.
cubannn
oooh yeah I know what you mean, the people that have to go out of their way to make it seem like they know EVERYTHING about the music industry, and try to degrade your music taste.

The people that need to get off their high horse and realize that everyone has different music tastes, and they need to let it go.
uruchai
QUOTE(cubannn @ Dec 4 2006, 12:13 AM) [snapback]4312363[/snapback]

oooh yeah I know what you mean, the people that have to go out of their way to make it seem like they know EVERYTHING about the music industry, and try to degrade your music taste.
The people that need to get off their high horse and realize that everyone has different music tastes, and they need to let it go.

that is completely true. I hate how those anti-pop music individuals look down on you just because you like Pop music. At times they make it seem like Pop music is the lowest form of the music genre. I admit I shouldnt expect everyone to like the music I prefer; but is it too much to ask to be respectful of others? ahh, who am I kidding? in this world, respectful people come in smaller amounts.
lovefool223
OMG THANK GOD I"M NOT THE ONLY ONE
killmesoftly
Yes it is quite annoying sometimes.
I feel happy for the artists and bands i like when they become more well known. Even though i can't help but tell my friends i knew them before they got popular tongue.gif
reversible
QUOTE(lovefool223 @ Dec 4 2006, 01:50 PM) [snapback]4310896[/snapback]

I don't know if this is supposed to be in the music section but it does relate to music so i'll just put it here hehe. So I have this friend who considers herself to be very anti mainstream anti pop anti corporation and she labels herself as very original. And then i tell her about how i miss Linkin Park and how i wish they would come up with a new album. And then she straight out says "Gosh i was like one of the first people to know them way before they became popular. and after they got all mainstream i don't like them anymore"
And i realized that she's not the only person that i know that does it..alot of people online in forums and in real life says these things like " i knew that song way before it got famous and now i hate it because everyone likes it" I don't know if anyones experienced that but are you too annoyed? And why do you have to hate a band or something when they go mainstream. What is so bad about mainstream. Anyways ... tongue2.gif



maybe she dislikes people liking her " favoruite things", i know that selfish, but a lot people do do that, i even do it sometime, not in music but in other things, its like tehcnology as well.

i love my sport and especially football, and i watch it for the sport itself not only for the guys, but then super bandwagon fans, and i mean SUPERRRRRRR bandwagon people started liking the sport because it was in and then the "like" reduced and when the World Cup was over they never talked about nothing, some of the girls who joined the bandwagon didn't even like the sport until they saw Cristiano Ronaldo.

eeeh i sound like a pinkberry


and about your anti-pop friend, shes s'pose tobe your friend and accept that you like whatever you like
lovefool223
QUOTE(reversible @ Dec 3 2006, 11:58 PM) [snapback]4313661[/snapback]

maybe she dislikes people liking her " favoruite things", i know that selfish, but a lot people do do that, i even do it sometime, not in music but in other things, its like tehcnology as well.

i love my sport and especially football, and i watch it for the sport itself not only for the guys, but then super bandwagon fans, and i mean SUPERRRRRRR bandwagon people started liking the sport because it was in and then the "like" reduced and when the World Cup was over they never talked about nothing, some of the girls who joined the bandwagon didn't even like the sport until they saw Cristiano Ronaldo.

eeeh i sound like a pinkberry
and about your anti-pop friend, shes s'pose tobe your friend and accept that you like whatever you like


whats a pinkberry?

She's my friend but sometimes gets on my nerves cause it's not just music that she talks about it's movies, actors, things...like everything basically lol. but she's my friend and i guess it's cool if she does it. lol
reversible
QUOTE(lovefool223 @ Dec 5 2006, 01:09 PM) [snapback]4319029[/snapback]

whats a pinkberry?

She's my friend but sometimes gets on my nerves cause it's not just music that she talks about it's movies, actors, things...like everything basically lol. but she's my friend and i guess it's cool if she does it. lol



pinkberry, i didn't know what that was, but i guess they censored the word bi-a-tch
Malice_Kaiser
I hate it when people do stuff like that. Just shows that they're trying waaaay too hard, and need to chill. Just like what you like and leave it at that. sleep.gif
MY SOUR JELLiE BEANS :D
QUOTE(STELLA STARR @ Dec 3 2006, 08:25 PM) [snapback]4311861[/snapback]

I hate when people say that. Seriously who gives a flying freak if you liked someone before they became mainstream and all the sudden they suck because of it? Music is music, how famous you are plays no role in that.


Yea biggrin.gif , I couldn't have said it better myself.
wee33
ugh. there's a lot of people online that talk like that. i don't know anyone personal that's like that. i wish people that have that type of personality just shut up. it's so annoying. it's just music, so whatever! i mean i listen to indie and mainstream, music is music. it's all the damn same. if the song/music has personal meaning to you then who the heck gives a pile of dirt. like it or not there'll be bands people love and hate.
kkkkk
"ubiquity breeds contempt" theory applies here.

So what's wrong with selling out? Paradoxically, it seems that once you become popular, you also become very unpopular. Suddenly, those in the know aren't as awed by Wolfgang Puck -- not when his name is displayed in major airports across the country. They look down their noses at Yo-Yo Ma. They disdain Andy Warhol.

Here's the problem: The moment you take your special, authentic, limited-edition product and leverage it, make it widely available and normal, the very people who loved it inevitably rebel. "Starbucks isn't what it used to be," they tell you. The tastemakers who made you successful in the first place turn on their heels when they smell that you're not authentic anymore.

When a product is everywhere, when it's hyped in the media and advertised on the sides of buses, sometimes it seems as if the product exists and succeeds because it is everywhere. Before ubiquity, when it seemed as if the product (or its creator) wasn't in it just for the money, somehow that felt more real, more wonderful, more authentic.

Marketing has always been one of the most despised aspects of business. Brands, logos, salesmanship, positioning, and focus groups have gained a reputation for insincerity and corporate greed. Most of this comes from people's desire to have something real -- and to get it from someone who isn't trying quite so hard to sell it.

Sure, the vistas, the smell of the sheep, and the excitement of a true discovery make the first kind of cheese seem to taste far better than the second. But isn't that just another form of marketing? Why does the intention of the creator have so much influence on our perception of the product?

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really, mainstream isnt so bad. or is it? (some are really bad, but some are really good too!)


broken.wings
Yeah, those kinds of ppl are annoying. It's annoying when they don't like a band/group/singer anymore just because they've made it big. If their music is good then it's good.
lovefool223
QUOTE(kkkkk @ Dec 5 2006, 08:28 AM) [snapback]4323893[/snapback]

"ubiquity breeds contempt" theory applies here.

So what's wrong with selling out? Paradoxically, it seems that once you become popular, you also become very unpopular. Suddenly, those in the know aren't as awed by Wolfgang Puck -- not when his name is displayed in major airports across the country. They look down their noses at Yo-Yo Ma. They disdain Andy Warhol.

Here's the problem: The moment you take your special, authentic, limited-edition product and leverage it, make it widely available and normal, the very people who loved it inevitably rebel. "Starbucks isn't what it used to be," they tell you. The tastemakers who made you successful in the first place turn on their heels when they smell that you're not authentic anymore.

When a product is everywhere, when it's hyped in the media and advertised on the sides of buses, sometimes it seems as if the product exists and succeeds because it is everywhere. Before ubiquity, when it seemed as if the product (or its creator) wasn't in it just for the money, somehow that felt more real, more wonderful, more authentic.

Marketing has always been one of the most despised aspects of business. Brands, logos, salesmanship, positioning, and focus groups have gained a reputation for insincerity and corporate greed. Most of this comes from people's desire to have something real -- and to get it from someone who isn't trying quite so hard to sell it.

Sure, the vistas, the smell of the sheep, and the excitement of a true discovery make the first kind of cheese seem to taste far better than the second. But isn't that just another form of marketing? Why does the intention of the creator have so much influence on our perception of the product?

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really, mainstream isnt so bad. or is it? (some are really bad, but some are really good too!)


wow so indepth cool.gif but i don't see anything wrong with mainstream things. i mean there is a reason things are mainstream because majority of the people think it's good. anyways i'm just glad i'm not the only one annoyed
kissez*
I don't care if the artist goes "mainstream", it's just that some artists, when they make it big, drastically change their sound.
amydien
We discussed something like this in my Pop Culture class....I think it's because some people just find themselves 'special' because they're the only ones who knew this or that certain type of music/artist.

I do find myself somewhat 'special' sometimes because Im a jpop and kpop fan, but I never go into such extreme as what your friend did. But lol, I'd also be annoyed if my friend was like that. smile.gif
wee33
if you were a loyal fan i think you'd still like them even if they go mainstream. sure their sound might change but that's because they're growing. even if bands don't go mainstream. they'll eventually change overtime. people are so afraid of change. for better or worst, i think bands are just maturing. you don't have to like it but its inevitable.
supakoreanflyguy
because sometimes when they become more mainstream they sell out and start sounding different
Sincerely: Me
music is music!! haha, why do some people have to make it so complicated? but I know what you mean though; that happens a lot in soompi phew.gif
AL_NT_ATT
it only shows how disloyal these fans are.
sixth.
my brother is like that. once an artist becomes mainstream, he starts to dislike them...

i really don't get what the point is. i mean, if you really like them, wouldn't you continue liking them no matter what? not unless going mainstream made their style change - then i guess it's acceptable.
soymilk
QUOTE(amydien @ Dec 8 2006, 04:24 PM) [snapback]4346590[/snapback]

We discussed something like this in my Pop Culture class....I think it's because some people just find themselves 'special' because they're the only ones who knew this or that certain type of music/artist.

I do find myself somewhat 'special' sometimes because Im a jpop and kpop fan, but I never go into such extreme as what your friend did. But lol, I'd also be annoyed if my friend was like that. smile.gif



i agree... they want to be the only ones knowing about these artists... so they can be "cool".. whatever it's stupid..
knockblock
Some of these people just want to be unique and different from others.
Korowa
Because obviously if an artist makes it, they sold out and threw away all their integrity and soul.

Anyhow, it's simply because people want to be unique in their tastes and when they find out that everybody else likes what they like, suddenly they're not unique anymore.
MUGETSU
well sometimes signing on to a major label forces bands to lose their creativity to fit in with the label's...vision for them.

thus they become sell outs and dont do the same music as they used to before getting popular and signed, which alienates many OG fans and make them act elite and hate the newbs.

supafly u got it right.
JF21©
lol most of the time people like that cant even name 3 songs from said artists

what i hate the most: when ur talking about a new band and their like I KNOW I HEARD THAT TOO! and you're like so what's ur favorite song..and they obviously never even heard of them..so they say all of them..but they ''aren't really into them that much anymore'' when u ask a follow up question..lol wtf....

Korowa
QUOTE(JuicyFruit21 @ Dec 14 2006, 10:43 PM) [snapback]4402553[/snapback]

lol most of the time people like that cant even name 3 songs from said artists

what i hate the most: when ur talking about a new band and their like I KNOW I HEARD THAT TOO! and you're like so what's ur favorite song..and they obviously never even heard of them..so they say all of them..but they ''aren't really into them that much anymore'' when u ask a follow up question..lol wtf....


LOL i definately love when that happens. I've seen that happen to about 4 people, who try to suck up to these artists, and then the artist asks what their favorite song is and couldn't answer.
juicy_couture
Its not really the band going mainstream I hate its the people who claim to like them cause some people only like the band cause they're all over MTV or the radio and claim to be a "really huge" fan when they only know like one or two singles and really know nothing about the band and their stuff before they went mainstream. And most band's music is wayyy better before they went mainstream. Bands change their music to more "pop"-ish (not all though) so that people who usually hates rock music would like them. Either they turn their music more pop like or just turns really bad..

Oh plus, when the band is playing a small venue, its hard to get tickets cause most of the people who "claim" to be fans who in reality only know like one or two songs get all the tickets!

And yea it does get "played out". EXAMPLE: I like Panic! at the Disco when they first came out (I'm a huge Fall Out Boy fan so I was one of the few who knew them before they were all over MTV), I really did and know songs other than "I Write Sins Not Tragedies", and when I liked them, it was wayyy before they were all over MTV, and people would be like who the f are they? Then maybe like an year later, they're all over MTV and EVERYONE is like "I love I write sins not tragedies" etc.. And I'm juss like to myself, dude that song is so f'en old now, and rolls my eyes..
petit_charat
indie music used to be all underground and played in small clubs and such. so in other words, it was 'relatively unknown music'. the people that went to see this music were somewhat of a cult following of the artitsts.
i know where your friend is coming from. i think its derived from jealousy because she may have thought she had claimed ownership of the band' so she feels she is obliged to be the number one fan forever and ever. and now that other people have started enjoying them she thinks that they're taking them away from her.
gah, i probably don't make any sense right now, but the point that i'm trying to get through is that she is trying to be a non-conformist. she wants to be unique because she doesn't listen to mainstream (which is what everyone listens to). so she is trying to stand out of the crowd.
i'm sure everyone has been like that at some point, discovering a great band yourself and then have loads of people start liking them....jumping on the bandwagon.
i think your friend needs an open mind and accept that you like that kind of music. there's no use holding a grudge against it because it's your own opinion and you have a right to like whatever the hell you want.
VersusVillain
There are trendwhore teens who try and act like they're not trendwhores, by hating the mainstream/popular, but in reality, they are trendwhores, because it's trendy to hate anything that's popular.

These people are most often referred to as "posers".
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