[r4nd0m4zn]

Which generation would you buy and why?

[azn akira]

either one doesnt really matter. personally i'd want an ap1 with the updated ap2 suspension links in the rear. more stable handling plus the novelty of a 9k redline

[simon82]

search ap1 vs ap2 on s2ki

this has been so overdone on those boards.

[sushiwhore]

AP2, more low-end torque makes it a more street-drivable car than the AP1, even if only slightly so. You could always remove the rev limiter if you really wanted an AP2..

[TKY]

AP1 for me...cause I have an Ap1.

[r4nd0m4zn]

either one doesnt really matter. personally i'd want an ap1 with the updated ap2 suspension links in the rear. more stable handling plus the novelty of a 9k redline

Which AP1s do you prefer? The 02 to 03 AP1s have revised suspension.

[Renesis]

If you like the Raw feel and the 9K rpm, the AP1 is the way to go. If you want an Ap1 get the 2003.

AP2 is more refined all-around.

[azn akira]

search ap1 vs ap2 on s2ki

this has been so overdone on those boards.

too bad the search engine on s2ki fails at life, really makes that site an inconvenience

Which AP1s do you prefer? The 02 to 03 AP1s have revised suspension.

doesnt matter as i wouldnt keep the suspension stock anyways. i dont have enough seat time in the various ap1's to make a good decision. either one is great, though i'd get an 03 or up for the glass window

You could always remove the rev limiter if you really wanted an AP2..

well the pistons speeds would be quite high (the piston speed of the f22c @ 8k is about the same as the f20c @ 9k) and stress rises exponentially with rpms. while it may be ok to run it that high i wouldnt risk it. plus it probably wouldnt make any power there because with factory cams and ecu its not meant to go that high.

[simon82]

too bad the search engine on s2ki fails at life, really makes that site an inconvenience

yeah, that's a shame. i don't even use the s2ki search functionality. just use google.

in google type:

"site:s2ki.com ap1 vs ap2"

[jdmj0]

my-03 ap1. best of the ap1s. ap1 exterior > ap2 exterior (especially the ugly ap2 stock rear bumper). 9k STOCK rev-limit. to whoever above said just remove the rev-limiter, better off reading this topic first before making comments like that: http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=254276.

[Bboy_CL1]

i would go with the AP2 , the engine became a 2.2L with more torque then the AP1 F20C unit. Torque is more important then horsepower

[azn akira]

i would go with the AP2 , the engine became a 2.2L with more torque then the AP1 F20C unit. Torque is more important then horsepower

would you care to support your claim with some data. after all its hp, not torque, that determains acceleration. low torque can be made up for with gearing (gearing will multiply torque). and in the case of the f22c vs the f20c being able to hold the revs for an extra 1000rpms can be advantageous. if torque were truely more important than hp all race engine would make more torque than hp, but they dont. truck motors do that...

dealing with the f20c vs f22c it doesnt really matter. depending on the turn one or the other will have the advantage. sometimes you need more power to pull out of a corner, sometimes you need to be able to hold the gear for that last little bit. the motors are too similar to definitively say one is better than the other

[jdmj0]

would you care to support your claim with some data. after all its hp, not torque, that determains acceleration. low torque can be made up for with gearing (gearing will multiply torque). and in the case of the f22c vs the f20c being able to hold the revs for an extra 1000rpms can be advantageous. if torque were truely more important than hp all race engine would make more torque than hp, but they dont. truck motors do that...

dealing with the f20c vs f22c it doesnt really matter. depending on the turn one or the other will have the advantage. sometimes you need more power to pull out of a corner, sometimes you need to be able to hold the gear for that last little bit. the motors are too similar to definitively say one is better than the other

and to add on to akira, a lot of s2k owners, well not a lot, but those that love to modify and still feel that the torque-less-wonder still needs better gearing often just swap out their final drives.