[lilshinhwafreak]

Cyber War between Senior and Junior Singer Concerning U;nee's death.



Choi (left), Kim (right)

Due to singer U;nee's suicide, a cyber war has started between a senior and junior singer.

On the 24th, Kim Jin Pyo wrote on his homepage that U;nee's death was "eventually our (all singers) faults" and criticized the lack of respect and love when not many singers attended the funeral of the deceased singer. Then two days later, senior singer, Choi Baek Ho wrote a reply to Kim's message.

As an important member of the National Korean Association of Singers, Choi said, "I tried to contact Kim through his company, but they wouldn't give me his contacts," therefore, leaving his reply on Kim's homepage. In his reply, Choi started out with "Concerning the emotional and upset homepage entry that Kim Jin Pyo posted, I believe there are a lot of misunderstandings."

When Kim lashed out on the lack of singers at the funeral, Choi replied that "Neither U;nee nor Kim Jin Pyo were members of the National Korean Association of Singers. So a proper funeral address couldn't be made, but we sent a flower bouquet in representation of the Association."

To Kim's comment about how the Association of Singers has become useless, Choi said "Because the relationships between senior and junior singers have become rocky, the Association was created to mend the relationships, not to create problems."

Choi also defended Kim's comments concerning singers and producers.
"By criticizing singers and producers, he is only belittling the passion that these people have for music."
"Don't you also have the same passion for music and receive the same benefits as a singer?"

Based on Choi's strong objections, Kim didn't show any reaction. Kim's company said, "Kim read Choi's words, but didn't show a special reaction of any kind."

Meanwhile, netizens have split, giving support to both sides.

Those supporting Choi said, that Kim was being disrespectful, criticizing the Association in the manner that he did.
Those supporting Kim said it wasn't right for there to be no proper funeral address just because U;nee wasn't a member. They also mentioned, "Comedian Kim Hyung Eun wasn't a member of the Comedian Association, but she was given a proper farewell at the funeral by many."

credits to Sports Cho Sun + Naver new + lilshinhwafreak (translation)

I didn't translate Kim Jin Pyo's side, but will summarize.
So basically, Kim was very disappointed that so many singers ignored U;nee's death/funeral.
A couple of celebrities did show up, like So Yoo Jin and Diva's Lee Min Kyung, but more than half of the celebrities that showed up weren't singers. Also, Some of the celebrities who did show up, like Comedian Lee Shin Young and Lee Jong Gyu who have lost a colleague the week before, didn't even know U;nee, but wanted to pay respect to her and came to her funeral in the middle of the night right after their busy schedules. Kim was upset that the singers couldn't even pull 5-10 minutes from their busy schedules to bid farewell to U;nee on her last day on earth.

Kim criticized that although the singers tend to follow their own schedules individually, singers should have grouped together to grieve over a colleague's unfortunate death. Also he said the Society for Singers was useless because it didn't inform anyone of U;nee's death. He said he had to find out about the death and funeral home from an online article and was deeply disappointed for the lack of attention to the suicide. He also said singers will go to weddings and celebrations of people they don't even know to celebrate the event, but when it comes to someone's death, they don't, which is why he said "it's basically all our faults."

In a way, Kim was being disrespectful to all the other singers, especially to the senior singers, which is why Choi left his reasonings of not attending the funeral. Also, Choi thought if Kim had a problem with the Association, Kim should have come directly to the Association and complained, not publicly ridiculing every singer out there.

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[wasabi29]

I'm on Kim Jin Pyo's side though...By posting all these things about the association regarding Unee's death on his homepage would be a more effective way to garner attention from all those involved. Unee has already passed away, and truth to be told there really wasn't much celebs that came to her funeral if you compared it to Kang Ho Dong's wedding. Doesn't that show how lacking the association is in terms of effectiveness? He did the right thing. After all, South Korea is a democratic country, there is nothing wrong with him giving his two cents on the matter.

[elavndrc]

I'm kind of on Kim Jin Pyo's side after reading that article. It did seem that many people did not know about the funeral which didn't allow them to attend. I remember reading that Unee was close to many singers but at teh funeral I didn't see a lot of them...it seemed that if they had known they would've come to show their respects. Despite her not being in the organization of singres or whatever....there should've been notification ~ the association is of Korean singers...and she's a Korean singer so what does it matter if she's not a member?

[tokyo_chick]

I find that crazy how just because someone isn't apart of a association people don't go to the funeral??? Whats really good with that?

[Ella_Kwan]

Kim Jin Pyo is right.

That whole whole singer association thing isnt working anymore.

A singer is just a person & if someone dies you have to pay respect.

Some people who didn't even know her, still payed their respect & it was when they were mad tried be/c of their sch.

It makes me mad that some people/singers are soo stupid like that. What taking 5 mins out of your sch. to go pay your respect is soo differcult???

Honestly people/singers who do that, dont deserve their fame. they arent humble enough for it.

btw.. choi is a Senior right? well i understand him playing by the rules & such but times has changed & like Kim said, the singer assocation isnt working.

[x_estherrrrrr_x]

kim jin pyo.
who cares if she was part of an association.
if u had a friend from another school die,
does that mean u dont attend bc they dont go to ur school?
bs.
r.i.p

[nom de plume.]

I'm with Kim Jin Pyo. It's the least a singer can do, to pay respects for someone's death if they know the person or not. She may have been close with singers but, like some mentioned, hardly ever showed up. Now if they truly cared about her, they would've taken time from their busy lives to at least say goodbye to a good person. They lack the respect to honor that as a friend.

What Kim did was right, it can make a person realize that the action of one person can affect another. Choi may be the senior, but playing by the book shouldn't stop him from acknowledging someone's death because "they're not a part of the association".



...I make no sense whatsoever *falls*

[Dah_jOkA]

Kim, since wen does a association have to tell u if u can or cannot pay ur last respects?

[MythnoonA]

I think they both raised good points. Or maybe-=neither. I'm more on the hoobae's side though.

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I do think the reason many people didn't go to her funeral is that they didn't know about it, not that they were being disrespectful by not attending...gasoo or not. I think more people were aware of Kim Hyung Eun's funeral, and they knew about her accident unfortunately leading up to her passing. I'm sure there were some people representing certain groups there--but it was mostly her friends an people she worked with...people who loved her. Random people just don't go and cry hysterically at just anyone's funeral. Unee's funeral was held only a short time after she died. I guess maybe her family didn't have time to contact everyone. I've read that some of her friends (famous and non-famous) didn't even know until they heard it on the news, or read it in their friend's journals.

and no--we can't say we know exactly what happened--so we really shouldn't say much about anyone who didn't go.

[jmouse]

kim jin pyo.

heck the association, she was a fellow singer, so who cares if she was a member or not.
i dunno if kim really critisized other artistes or not... both sides have their points...
but i'm on his side cos the asosciation should've informed others of her death, if artistes are already that busy, they might not even know of her death, and that's why an association is needed in the first place... to create awareness for their welfare, etc, no?

[jack jack attack]

I'm definitely on Kim Jin Pyo's side. If it's true that celebs went to Kim Hyung Eun's funeral even though she wasn't part of the Comedian Association, then that's really wrong of them. How come they visited someone's funeral even though one was not part of that group, but they can't do the same for another? I find it really disrespectful. Those two hosts(?) was able to go even after their hectic schedule. They went at midnight just to pay their respects, yet those other celebs couldn't do the same. I don't know the reason why they didn't go .. maybe they didn't know about it or was simply wayyyyy too busy, but they should at least do something special to make up for not attending the funeral. A little gathering and a moment of silence for the deceased would be nice. >_< Sorry .. this is just my opinion .. and if they did do something of the sort .. then ignore my post. ^^;;

[Yumi -]

Kim Jin Pyo.

He's right. No matter what, they should at least pay their respects.
it's just...common sense. and manners.

[jahye]

I don't even have to say whose side I'm on because it's obvious who I agree with.
I followed the coverage of Kim Hyeong Eun's death when it happened. In fact I posted a ton of pictures and videos in the 웃찾사 thread if anyone cares.
Anyways, I saw the amount of support given to Kim Hyeong Eun's family and all the people that came out to grieve over her.
I really only expected the gagmen and women from 웃찾사 to come out, but was glad to see practically everyone in the gag community give their respects and/or go to her funeral.
Not just people from 웃찾사, but from the other gagshows and all the MCs like Shin Dong Yup, Kim Jae Dong, Yoo Jae Suk, Jung Sun Hee, and practically everyone else.
The people closest to her felt a huge loss, but there were a lot of people she wasn't very close to that still came out and that shows her death was not just a loss to her family and closest friends, but a huge loss to the gag community.

After witnessing how deaths are handled in the Korean entertainment business through Kim Hyeong Eun's passing away, I expected the same thing for U;nee's death. Of course her family and closest friends would come, but I also expected singers in general to come and pay their respects just like everyone in the gag/mc community came out for Kim Hyeong Eun. But when I browsed through the pictures, there weren't many people at all. In fact, like the article said, there were more actors/actresses like So Yoo Jin and Park Yeh Jin and non-singers than singers. I was shocked and just diappointed with the gayo community that they didn't even have the decency to take a little time out of their day to pay their respects. It only makes it worse that her cause of death was suicide.. she left this world because she felt alone and then to have very few people give their condolences? That's messed up.

Some people give an excuse that the suicide was so sudden and it might have taken too long to get the word out.. B.S.! Do you know how fast news can travel? Especially about something so horrific and tragic like suicide?? I bet the whole music community, everyone from singers' managers to the singers themselves, heard about U;nee's suicide the day it happened. And they couldn't come out for 15, 20 minutes the next day and give their condolences?!
So what if U;nee wasn't as popular? That's not excuse to just disregard her death.
Kim Hyeong Eun wasn't even on 웃찾사 when she passed away. In fact, she left the show a long time before and stopped doing work as a gagwoman for a while because she was busy preparing to be a singer. But the whole gag community still gave their respect to her when she passed away.

This isn't about who had more friends or was more popular. It's about the difference between the gag/mc community (the comedians) and the music comumunity (the singers). The difference is the comedians know how to give respect and the singers don't.

[YELL;OH]

It only makes it worse that her cause of death was suicide.. she left this world because she felt alone and then to have very few people give their condolences? That's messed up.

you pretty much covered everything i wanted to say~~

::sigh::
this is sad. all of it.

[himang34]

i stand on kim junior side..
hmmm.. popular or not, belong to the community or not..
is it that important??
i mean this is the funernal.. isnt it the least bit of the thing tt can be left to
do for her is to pay their last respect to her, to pray tt she is in the hands of god..
resting peacefully in heaven now??

[angel2nyt]

first and foremost, kim jin pyo also cannot deny the fact that most singers are under their management's control.. so going away with schedule is not a good idea for them..
however on most parts he is right, i mean come on.. just because unee wasnt part of the association doesnt mean she cannot be given the same respect as those members

now we see a lot of sides of things when unee died, first the uncontrollable bashing of korean netizens, then this

[litt0piggy]

I was shocked and just diappointed with the gayo community that they didn't even have the decency to take a little time out of their day to pay their respects. It only makes it worse that her cause of death was suicide.. she left this world because she felt alone and then to have very few people give their condolences? That's messed up.

this news makes me so mad, hurt, and disappointed all at the same time! you totally said the main thing i wanted to same.. its so sad and heartless of them to do this to her after her death which is a suicide of depression for lonelines! she had depression because she felt as if no one cares for her and that she is walking her life by herself. now that she pass away no one even bother to came and especially announce it to the stars (aka the association)! yet now they try to defenses themselves by making excuses! dont they feel self-conscience for doing this? I'M DEFINITELY TAKING KIM'S SIDE FOR THIS, he is not being disrespectful to the elders but he is showing warm love to U:NEE. besides its a free country (i think?) for them to express their thinking, especially this case is very necessary to be said. from what i read about Choi and the so-called association, it seems like they dont care about her at all. this so DISRESPECTFUL TO U:NEE and this is making it even sadder for her family! i feel like crying now, i pity U:NEE so much! all she wanted was love and caring attentions yet they failed to do this as her last wish! RIP U:NEE, even if they dont care we do care for you!

[XhoXho]

Association or not, it's about being respectful towards the deceased. If someone famous of my profession died. Whether or not they were in my company, I'd pay my respects.

[~lin~]

I also was wondering why there was not a lot of people there at her funeral... not only the singers but actors/actress as well... when there is a wedding you see all kinds/sorts of people there but then when there is a funeral I dont see much people there and the ones that did attend her funeral... I don't really know any of them at all.

[lilshinhwafreak]

I don't even have to say whose side I'm on because it's obvious who I agree with.
I followed the coverage of Kim Hyeong Eun's death when it happened. In fact I posted a ton of pictures and videos in the 웃찾사 thread if anyone cares.
Anyways, I saw the amount of support given to Kim Hyeong Eun's family and all the people that came out to grieve over her.
I really only expected the gagmen and women from 웃찾사 to come out, but was glad to see practically everyone in the gag community give their respects and/or go to her funeral.
Not just people from 웃찾사, but from the other gagshows and all the MCs like Shin Dong Yup, Kim Jae Dong, Yoo Jae Suk, Jung Sun Hee, and practically everyone else.
The people closest to her felt a huge loss, but there were a lot of people she wasn't very close to that still came out and that shows her death was not just a loss to her family and closest friends, but a huge loss to the gag community.

After witnessing how deaths are handled in the Korean entertainment business through Kim Hyeong Eun's passing away, I expected the same thing for U;nee's death. Of course her family and closest friends would come, but I also expected singers in general to come and pay their respects just like everyone in the gag/mc community came out for Kim Hyeong Eun. But when I browsed through the pictures, there weren't many people at all. In fact, like the article said, there were more actors/actresses like So Yoo Jin and Park Yeh Jin and non-singers than singers. I was shocked and just diappointed with the gayo community that they didn't even have the decency to take a little time out of their day to pay their respects. It only makes it worse that her cause of death was suicide.. she left this world because she felt alone and then to have very few people give their condolences? That's messed up.

Some people give an excuse that the suicide was so sudden and it might have taken too long to get the word out.. B.S.! Do you know how fast news can travel? Especially about something so horrific and tragic like suicide?? I bet the whole music community, everyone from singers' managers to the singers themselves, heard about U;nee's suicide the day it happened. And they couldn't come out for 15, 20 minutes the next day and give their condolences?!
So what if U;nee wasn't as popular? That's not excuse to just disregard her death.
Kim Hyeong Eun wasn't even on 웃찾사 when she passed away. In fact, she left the show a long time before and stopped doing work as a gagwoman for a while because she was busy preparing to be a singer. But the whole gag community still gave their respect to her when she passed away.

This isn't about who had more friends or was more popular. It's about the difference between the gag/mc community (the comedians) and the music comumunity (the singers). The difference is the comedians know how to give respect and the singers don't.

VERY WELL SAID.
if the singers really couldn't come out to the funeral, they should have at least written something on the internet, wishing her to rest in peace or something
i havent seen any of those either, except from her closest friends