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#351 User is offline   jon 

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 07:40 AM

QUOTE (xmiyavix3kiritox @ Apr 12 2008, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i was wondering if anyone applied for UCSF. like, what is the average GPA and MCAT?
and what else is weighed?


I think being from California is important for all the CA med schools including the private schools. Having said that there are variations in GPA and MCAT, although I would think a 3.8 and 35+ would be competitve numbers.

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Posted 12 April 2008 - 07:56 AM

QUOTE (Jiae @ Mar 24 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Some questions:
-How competitive is Cardiac (heart) surgeons?
-How competitive is going into the Medical career? My dad would always say, if you really work hard, theres nothing stopping you in America. What do you think? Theres millions and millions of pre-med students, and only so much medical school space. What happens if no medical school takes you? Its my fear.. T.T I signed up to volunteer at a hospital. I worry so much about not beingi "accepted"; i even dreampt i didn't and it was jasdojifaoie. T.T I try to be optimistic..but i guess worries do come!

Are there any medical school students here? Or Residents (preferably Heart Surgeons/pediatrians?)
-What is a normal day like?
-How much hours do you work?[/font]


CT (cardiothoracic ) surgeons usually spend 7-8 years of additional training after medical school vs. 3 years for a general pediatrician. You have to have a certain mindset and determination to become a CT surgeon as the long years of training and long hours of work are not easy to take for most people. In summary, if you like sleep, then CT surgery is not for you. On the other hand, the 3 years of training to become a pediatrician can entail long hours, but getting into a pediatric training progam is not as difficult.

A lot of US pre-meds don't get into medical school. They either re-apply the following year or apply to other health professional programs (dental, optometry, pharmacy, etc.), go to graduate school in a biomedical field or apply to non-US medical schools.

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 06:05 PM

I'm currently attending a small, little-known private Liberal Arts university and had recently decided that I wanted to go into the medical field, which my university is ill-equipped for.
I've talked with friends and most of them have advised that I transfer out, so I've applied to transfer to neighboring UC schools.
When I expressed the concern of not being accepted to any, I was told that I should just attend my home-state university which is not really the 'greatest'...but offers much more than what my current university has to offer. Another friend was against that idea because she said that it'd be harder for me to get into any med school through my home-state university. At least with my current university, she said, it's in California, where I plan to attend med school as well. Another friend says that it doesn't matter what school I go to so long as I get good grades and get involved in a variety of extracurricular activities and volunteering/internships.
With every school, it's probably different, but what's the general consensus on accepting students from different universities? Is the university I attend a major or minor factor in being accepted into med schools?
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Posted 16 April 2008 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (GaeasX @ Apr 14 2008, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm currently attending a small, little-known private Liberal Arts university and had recently decided that I wanted to go into the medical field, which my university is ill-equipped for.
I've talked with friends and most of them have advised that I transfer out, so I've applied to transfer to neighboring UC schools.
When I expressed the concern of not being accepted to any, I was told that I should just attend my home-state university which is not really the 'greatest'...but offers much more than what my current university has to offer. Another friend was against that idea because she said that it'd be harder for me to get into any med school through my home-state university. At least with my current university, she said, it's in California, where I plan to attend med school as well. Another friend says that it doesn't matter what school I go to so long as I get good grades and get involved in a variety of extracurricular activities and volunteering/internships.
With every school, it's probably different, but what's the general consensus on accepting students from different universities? Is the university I attend a major or minor factor in being accepted into med schools?



Keep in mind that what I'm saying is totally my opinion.... I would assume that where you complete your undergraduate would not matter when applying for medical schools. I was in the same situation as you... originally at a small private liberal arts univ., but I transferred out into the public state school, and LOVE it. =)

anyway...the medical school where I live "converts" the private school gpa system into the medical school's gpa scale (if that makes sense).... for example, the small private liberal arts school had a gpa scale of +/- system while the medical school does not, so it would factor this in. They know that the private school is a little more challenging than the public school.

If you love your school, stay there, just make sure to be INVOLVED! Not only with school extracurricular activities, but also off campus activities (like at the hospital or something). This will show that you are well rounded and versatile. Also talk to your pre-health advisor, he/she might be able to help you.


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Posted 17 April 2008 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE (ni hao @ Apr 7 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone here have any experience or know of someone who did something totally different than bio and still got into med school?


my doctor majored in philosophy tongue.gif


and not to scare anyone but if anyone is having 2nd thoughts, follow your instincts...if there's the chance you think you may not be med school material, at least major in something other than bio/chem. unless you are truly interested in BIOLOGY because then at least you have other options that may interest you like field research, teaching, and the multitude of other possibilities
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Posted 17 April 2008 - 04:23 PM

I've got a question that can hopefully be answered by you guys smile.gif
I'm a freshman in her second semester, and a declared Biochemistry major, with an emphasis on neurology for my upper-level classes. I lovee that topic, and it interests me so much!
However, I made a mistake in taking an advanced introductory chemistry class, and ended up with a B. My first semester GPA ended up being 3.67. For this semester, I doubt I will be getting anything lower than an A-. Is that B going to really hurt me when I'm applying for medical school? I'm just worried...

Not only that, but I'm involved with about 4 organizations on campus, have an internship lined up for the summer, and am currently riding for my town's EMT during the school year. Does it help that I'm in so many things on campus? It keeps me running around all the time, and it does affect my grades a tiny bit...for example, an A- instead of an A. Are those activities worth that change in the grade? My ultimate goal is medical school, but I do those activities because I like volunteering, etc. However, if having a 4.0 is more important than a 3.7 with activities, then I'm willing to sacrifice my other interests. What do you guys think?

Thank you guys! This thread is immensely helpful!!
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Posted 17 April 2008 - 06:22 PM

^^ yep, i also have similar question. is having a higher gpa more important than lower but with more activities? or high gpa but with less or little (like just volunteering at one place, perhaps shadow doctor, summer reserach, but no head of clubs or anything else)?


because i'm pretty sure i'm not going to be able to get a high gpa for my science classes if i'm too involved/busy with activities. So right now i'm thinking of just volunteering at hospital, shadow doctor, and research over summer. But what else do other people do?
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 06:54 PM

how much in-debt are people usually after med school? do you get much financial aid?
also, what kind of classes do you take in med school? are the schedules really packed?
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 12:48 AM

if i go to college instate, is it difficult to get into a med school out of state afterwards? i wanna go to UW but they only have 2 med schools in washington. if i dont get into either...than am i just screwed?
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 11:34 AM

GPA and MCAT are priorities. Although, having great EAs (such as research, clinical experience, etc.) to boast is definitely a thumbs up. Not to sound harsh but, there are people out there who have great MCAT score(s) and GPA whilst having lots of EA under their belt as well. EAs will only get you so far if you don't have the GPA/MCAT to back it up. Having that said, if you were to co-author a published scientific paper or something along those lines (anything that will raise some eyebrows), it may prove to have been worth your time, if you get my drift.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 01:32 PM

Any advices for nursing ? I will going to college this fall semester . I don't know my major yet , but I want to be a RN (Registered Nurse) . Is it really hard to be a RN ? Do I have to be good at Biology , Chemistry & Physic ? I heard some people said that it took about 3-4 years to become a RN and get the Bechelor Degree right ? Does any one know who makes more money : RN or MA (Medical Assistant)?
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 02:10 PM

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there is a whole nursing thread but it's not pinned so its prolly on page 2 or so

oki here

http://www.soompi.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3190
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 10:52 PM

QUOTE (mz.carolyn @ Apr 17 2008, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've got a question that can hopefully be answered by you guys smile.gif
I'm a freshman in her second semester, and a declared Biochemistry major, with an emphasis on neurology for my upper-level classes. I lovee that topic, and it interests me so much!
However, I made a mistake in taking an advanced introductory chemistry class, and ended up with a B. My first semester GPA ended up being 3.67. For this semester, I doubt I will be getting anything lower than an A-. Is that B going to really hurt me when I'm applying for medical school? I'm just worried...

Not only that, but I'm involved with about 4 organizations on campus, have an internship lined up for the summer, and am currently riding for my town's EMT during the school year. Does it help that I'm in so many things on campus? It keeps me running around all the time, and it does affect my grades a tiny bit...for example, an A- instead of an A. Are those activities worth that change in the grade? My ultimate goal is medical school, but I do those activities because I like volunteering, etc. However, if having a 4.0 is more important than a 3.7 with activities, then I'm willing to sacrifice my other interests. What do you guys think?

Thank you guys! This thread is immensely helpful!!



QUOTE (chiluvskk @ Apr 17 2008, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^^ yep, i also have similar question. is having a higher gpa more important than lower but with more activities? or high gpa but with less or little (like just volunteering at one place, perhaps shadow doctor, summer reserach, but no head of clubs or anything else)?


because i'm pretty sure i'm not going to be able to get a high gpa for my science classes if i'm too involved/busy with activities. So right now i'm thinking of just volunteering at hospital, shadow doctor, and research over summer. But what else do other people do?



you want to be as well rounded as possible. With that said, good grades and good test scores show medical schools that you are capable of handling the tough course load and passing your boards. However, if you have a 4.0, with hardly extra curricular activities, no leadership positions, no experience in the health-related field etc. then more than likely you won't be accepted. On the other hand, if you have too low of a gpa, less than 3.0, then it shows that you might not be able to handle medical school, and being a physician.

It's all about BALANCE. Do what you feel like would be best for you. But make sure your activities are consistent, meaning don't just have a "grocery list" of activities. Quality over quantity is preferred. AND make sure you keep your grades up and do well on your MCAT.



QUOTE (christine101 @ Apr 18 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how much in-debt are people usually after med school? do you get much financial aid?
also, what kind of classes do you take in med school? are the schedules really packed?


It depends on what medical school you go to. Also depends on being in-state or out-of-state. I would say that most debts on average would be between $50,000-$200,000. Somewhere in those ranges. Medical school is pricey!

Medical schools do offer scholarships, merit and need based. But since not everyone can receive them, they're highly competitive. The amount varies depending on the medical school & also how much they want to give you.

You can go to the medical school's website to see their courses. Most schools have classes in anatomy/physiology, biochemistry, ethics, pharmacology, microbiology, pathophysiology, clinical skills, cell biology, etc. (varies on school). Majority are SCIENCES!

Classes are usually from 8-5. (not back to back) You spend most of your days in classes and labs. So you have to STUDY A LOT! because of the intense workload.

Again, you can go to specific the medical school's website to see what the schools classes and days are like.


QUOTE (breadispan @ Apr 19 2008, 03:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if i go to college instate, is it difficult to get into a med school out of state afterwards? i wanna go to UW but they only have 2 med schools in washington. if i dont get into either...than am i just screwed?


Being accepted to a public out-of-state medical school is much more difficult than being accepted into a public in-state school. Most in-state schools (public) give preference to the in-state students. This means that if you're applying for to an out-of-state school, you HAVE to be a top-notch and strong applicant because you are competing for a smaller number of availability spots. For example, an in-state student applying to an in-state school might have a 20% of being accepted, while an out-of-state student would have a 5% chance of being accepted to that same school.

As for private schools, I would say, most of them are fair game. The chances of being accepted are more equal among students compared to the chances of being accepted to an out-of-state medical school.

Are you a Washington resident? Then your chances will be higher. If you're out of state, according to UWSOM,
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Based on past experience more than 90% of acceptances are applicants from Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana or Idaho (WWAMI). Applicants from outside this region who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and/or who have demonstrated a commitment to serving under-served populations will be considered.
. Don't just apply to 2 medical schools, you want to broaden your chances, unless you are 100% sure that those 2 medical schools in Washington are the ONLY schools you want to go to. Also keep in mind, that most applicants that apply their first year are not accepted. So strengthen your application and yourself, and reapply the following year.

Good luck to all! =)




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Posted 27 April 2008 - 01:27 AM

QUOTE (springyi @ Apr 22 2008, 02:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you want to be as well rounded as possible. With that said, good grades and good test scores show medical schools that you are capable of handling the tough course load and passing your boards. However, if you have a 4.0, with hardly extra curricular activities, no leadership positions, no experience in the health-related field etc. then more than likely you won't be accepted. On the other hand, if you have too low of a gpa, less than 3.0, then it shows that you might not be able to handle medical school, and being a physician.

It's all about BALANCE. Do what you feel like would be best for you. But make sure your activities are consistent, meaning don't just have a "grocery list" of activities. Quality over quantity is preferred. AND make sure you keep your grades up and do well on your MCAT.

Gotcha! Thank you so much!!
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 03:45 PM

im scared....
i want to be pediatrician, if i am to be a doctor.
but i cant, for the life of me, do chem or physics. maybe i'll do better in college when i dont have seniorities?
i was planning to major in english and take pre med classes. too much?
i dont knowwwwww. *pulls hair*


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Posted 28 April 2008 - 07:27 PM

QUOTE (pinkieboox3 @ Apr 28 2008, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im scared....
i want to be pediatrician, if i am to be a doctor.
but i cant, for the life of me, do chem or physics. maybe i'll do better in college when i dont have seniorities?
i was planning to major in english and take pre med classes. too much?
i dont knowwwwww. *pulls hair*

It shouldn't be that bad. smile.gif If you enjoy writing papers, then I say go for it!!
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 04:53 AM

this is a weird question..but did you guys gain weight when you went into med school? i gained about 5-10lbs! i don't know how to lose weight again. i started taking the stairs instead but nothing's changing ph34r.gif
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 12:01 PM

Hah I wouldn't mind gaining weight in med school, as long as I get INTO med school... tears.gif
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE (francesivy @ Apr 30 2008, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this is a weird question..but did you guys gain weight when you went into med school? i gained about 5-10lbs! i don't know how to lose weight again. i started taking the stairs instead but nothing's changing ph34r.gif

QUOTE (MINJI.v @ Apr 30 2008, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hah I wouldn't mind gaining weight in med school, as long as I get INTO med school... tears.gif


Hahaha MINJI.v I totally agree with you xD
But to francesivy..I'm guessing you're really stressed out, and since you're just studying all the time and sitting there, it's not a big surprise that you've been gaining weight. It's faster to gain weight than to lose...which sucks. tongue.gif
I recommend hitting the gym. Not only will you lose weight, but working out will increase oxygen flow to the brain, making you feel more alert and helps with studying.
Good luck!
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