[d0wne]

u need to pay subscription fee to post on the FM buy/sell forums... but you are free to PM people willing to buy items.

I knew there was a fee like ebay, but I didn't know it was subscription based. I really like photography-on-the.net though.

[watcher]

I knew there was a fee like ebay, but I didn't know it was subscription based. I really like photography-on-the.net though.

it's pretty cool... whenever i'm out and about... and meet random DSLR owners, sometimes we end up talking about this site.
nowadays, i feel like the DSLR community have like this instant connection wherever you go. it's nice...

[surrrrreal.]

My little buddy.


We moved into a bigger house, so now my family's going crazy with Christmas. We actually have a REAL tree.

[mia1981]

Probably. I don't know who'd buy though +_+;

becareful when u sell ur stuff online.
i sold my xti to this guy back in october
and we met.
he gave me 500 cash.
next morning, he emails me saying that something was wrong
with the camera and then emails me again saying
that he didn't know that it was the xti, and he thought it was
a 40D.
wth. why the heck would i sell a 40D for 500 bucks? and it had just
came out from canon. and he claimed he knew a lot about cameras.
yeah if u can't tell the difference between the xti and the 40d...
it was a mess. after a while he gave up.
loser =P

if i were u, i'd keep it for the second body

[watcher]

becareful when u sell ur stuff online.
i sold my xti to this guy back in october
and we met.
he gave me 500 cash.
next morning, he emails me saying that something was wrong
with the camera and then emails me again saying
that he didn't know that it was the xti, and he thought it was
a 40D.
wth. why the heck would i sell a 40D for 500 bucks? and it had just
came out from canon. and he claimed he knew a lot about cameras.
yeah if u can't tell the difference between the xti and the 40d...
it was a mess. after a while he gave up.
loser =P

if i were u, i'd keep it for the second body

dunno where you sold to, but i've sold enough now to trust sites like POTN and FM to find buyers. i've already exchange several thousand dollars worth of camera equipment, and none have failed me. just make sure that they're active members in the forums, and in most cases, you should be fine.

[Nana.YahXD]

Oh these wwas that they were called
i was really interested in this cameras
but i don't have the slightest idea of anything about cameras and parts

Like i wanted to take up photograph...

but just wondering does anyone know any site with more information
and whats a good "beginners" dslr

[c_gunawan541]

^I'm a beginner myself and i'm lucky enough to get my dad to buy for me in hongkong soon.
I'm also trying to find out which Dslr cameras is better for me. But i'm pretty much decided to buy Canon Rebel XT(Southeast asia version) aka EOS 350D. I think i heard someone recommended this to me, and i saw an article when i was googling, it explains a lot about DSLR cameras to us beginners and i think i'm choosing Rebel XT since it's a pretty good choice for me.

I only want to learn and take some casual photos and sometimes, some serious ones...so Rebel XT kinda match those requirements.

Because it's one of the most affordable DSLR camera and it's not too hard to function(i think so).

http://photonotes.org/articles/beginner-faq/cameras.html
^that's the article i was talking about.

It's really useful because we got to know more about DSLR cameras, and definitely helpful to us, beginners.

---Caroline

[IxWiNdxI]

Oh these wwas that they were called
i was really interested in this cameras
but i don't have the slightest idea of anything about cameras and parts

Like i wanted to take up photograph...

but just wondering does anyone know any site with more information
and whats a good "beginners" dslr

How much are you looking to spend? a Canon Rebel XT or XTi would be good beginner dslr.
you can look up more information about cameras on: www.dpreview.com

dunno where you sold to, but i've sold enough now to trust sites like POTN and FM to find buyers. i've already exchange several thousand dollars worth of camera equipment, and none have failed me. just make sure that they're active members in the forums, and in most cases, you should be fine.

Hey, you're on POTN too? what's your username?

[mia1981]

^I'm a beginner myself and i'm lucky enough to get my dad to buy for me in hongkong soon.
I'm also trying to find out which Dslr cameras is better for me. But i'm pretty much decided to buy Canon Rebel XT(Southeast asia version) aka EOS 350D. I think i heard someone recommended this to me, and i saw an article when i was googling, it explains a lot about DSLR cameras to us beginners and i think i'm choosing Rebel XT since it's a pretty good choice for me.

I only want to learn and take some casual photos and sometimes, some serious ones...so Rebel XT kinda match those requirements.

Because it's one of the most affordable DSLR camera and it's not too hard to function(i think so).

http://photonotes.org/articles/beginner-faq/cameras.html
^that's the article i was talking about.

It's really useful because we got to know more about DSLR cameras, and definitely helpful to us, beginners.

---Caroline

if ur getting the xt, just get the upgraded xti.
there's a huge difference btwn the xt and the xti.
and do u live in the states?
if u do, then u should get it in the states for warranty issues

[paperbunny]

I'm thinking of getting a Canon digital rebel XTI but i have a few questions
Is there a difference between SLR and EOS? (if so, what?)
What do you mean by lenses? Like what do they specifically do?

Thanks smile.gif

[erure]

I'm thinking of getting a Canon digital rebel XTI but i have a few questions
Is there a difference between SLR and EOS? (if so, what?)
What do you mean by lenses? Like what do they specifically do?

Thanks smile.gif

SLR = single lens reflex
EOS is a line of cameras from Canon and it does not pertain to photography as a term - it's just a brand.
And if you don't know what lenses are or what they do, then you definitely need to do more research before spending hundreds of dollars on an XTi, imo.
Look up "slr camera" on wikipedia

[mia1981]

I'm thinking of getting a Canon digital rebel XTI but i have a few questions
Is there a difference between SLR and EOS? (if so, what?)
What do you mean by lenses? Like what do they specifically do?

Thanks smile.gif

honestly, i don't think u should buy a rebel if u don't know the difference between an SLR & EOS.
EOS is just a series from Canon.
and especially if u don't know what lenses are... i think u should start with a little point and shoot digital camera.
those also have lenses.

[c_gunawan541]

if ur getting the xt, just get the upgraded xti.
there's a huge difference btwn the xt and the xti.
and do u live in the states?
if u do, then u should get it in the states for warranty issues

But sadly i'm not in states...i'm in Asia T^T The model in Asia for XT is 350D and for XTi is 400D.
I'm now kinda stuck between 350D and 400D.....(because if i'm getting a 350D, might as well get a 400D)
the lenses are what i'm confused at. I need to check up on the lenses again.

Any recommendations on lenses? And what kind of lenses that are good?
I mean, what lenses suitable for what type of photography? What kind of lenses do most of you use??

I just found another useful article on lenses:
http://photonotes.org/articles/beginner-faq/lenses.html

Warranty issues and those voltage issues are getting on me. *sigh*
Because i may be moving to Seattle next year if i get accepted in the community college. But US have different voltage from Asia.
I may need to buy a voltage changer machine/adaptor in US if i really get accepted in CC.
Warranty issues...if i buy in Asia....it will be quite inconvinient. *scratches head in frustration*
My dilemma~

Lenses are difficult to choose T_T some of them are so expensive and me this beginner doesn't know all my needs yet.
Maybe i should just buy 3 different types of lenses so that i know what to buy next time =p. But i will be broke by that time. XDD

---Caroline

[watcher]

But sadly i'm not in states...i'm in Asia T^T The model in Asia for XT is 350D and for XTi is 400D.
I'm now kinda stuck between 350D and 400D.....(because if i'm getting a 350D, might as well get a 400D)
the lenses are what i'm confused at. I need to check up on the lenses again.

Any recommendations on lenses? And what kind of lenses that are good?
I mean, what lenses suitable for what type of photography? What kind of lenses do most of you use??

I just found another useful article on lenses:
http://photonotes.org/articles/beginner-faq/lenses.html

Warranty issues and those voltage issues are getting on me. *sigh*
Because i may be moving to Seattle next year if i get accepted in the community college. But US have different voltage from Asia.
I may need to buy a voltage changer machine/adaptor in US if i really get accepted in CC.
Warranty issues...if i buy in Asia....it will be quite inconvinient. *scratches head in frustration*
My dilemma~

Lenses are difficult to choose T_T some of them are so expensive and me this beginner doesn't know all my needs yet.
Maybe i should just buy 3 different types of lenses so that i know what to buy next time =p. But i will be broke by that time. XDD

---Caroline

for beginners, just get the kit lens: 18-55/3.5~5.6
use that and figure out what your needs are from there

[c_gunawan541]

for beginners, just get the kit lens: 18-55/3.5~5.6
use that and figure out what your needs are from there

Hehe, yeah. I think the camera that i will be buying will include the kit lens.

Suggested Retail Price:
EOS 400D Body : $4,780
EOS 400D Lens Kit : $5,480 (with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II Lens)
EOS 400D Lens Kit : $7,680 (with EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Lens)

(As in HK dollar. XDD)

Maybe i just buy the 18-55 mm one. the 17-85mm seems EXPENSIVE.
Don't know how much it costs in indonesia(aka my location now)....

---Caroline

[watcher]

Hehe, yeah. I think the camera that i will be buying will include the kit lens.

Suggested Retail Price:
EOS 400D Body : $4,780
EOS 400D Lens Kit : $5,480 (with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II Lens)
EOS 400D Lens Kit : $7,680 (with EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Lens)

(As in HK dollar. XDD)

Maybe i just buy the 18-55 mm one. the 17-85mm seems EXPENSIVE.
Don't know how much it costs in indonesia(aka my location now)....

---Caroline

the 17-85 lens is quite convenient... but i'd say go with the 18-55 kit, and buy a better lens later on.

[paperbunny]

sorry about that >.< i dont have a lot of knowledge on digital cameras. i own 3 canon powershots and i just want to upgrade it because i love photography xP

thanks for all your help though ^^ ive done some research

[watcher]

sorry about that >.< i dont have a lot of knowledge on digital cameras. i own 3 canon powershots and i just want to upgrade it because i love photography xP

thanks for all your help though ^^ ive done some research

look up fredmiranda and photography on the net.
make an account and start asking questions.
the people there are generally kind enough to answer in greater detail

[c_gunawan541]

the 17-85 lens is quite convenient... but i'd say go with the 18-55 kit, and buy a better lens later on.

Yeah~i was thinking of that too.
Another question, if i want to capture the photos of a bird/plane flying and wanna see their facial features clearly.
What kind of lens is that? 100mm? or something? LOL~

My mom was asking....

How about those kinds of wide lenses, how do we know how many mm considered as wide lenses?
I'm confused...or they have some specific model code/number on the lenses to label as different type of lenses?

---Caroline

[watcher]

Yeah~i was thinking of that too.
Another question, if i want to capture the photos of a bird/plane flying and wanna see their facial features clearly.
What kind of lens is that? 100mm? or something? LOL~

My mom was asking....

How about those kinds of wide lenses, how do we know how many mm considered as wide lenses?
I'm confused...or they have some specific model code/number on the lenses to label as different type of lenses?

---Caroline

if you want to take close up pics of birds and planes far away, i'd suggest at least 200~300mm. you can probably get by with 150~200mm and cropping out the subject, but i find it much better to get the shot with a longer lens.

as for wide angle, it really depends on the type of camera you have. but before i say what is wide and what isn't, i gotta give you a quick background:

there are two major types of sensors out in the market right now for DSLR's. one is full frame, and the other is APS-C. without getting into technicalities, full frame sensors are bigger than aps-c sensors. this just means full frame can get more of the picture, while aps-c gets less.

with that said, with a full frame sensor, a wide angle would be in the 15~40mm range. with an aps-c sensor, wide angle would be from 10~25mm.

most likely, you will be buying an aps-c sensor DSLR (mainly because full frame cameras are quite expensive, and most beginners will stray away from the huge costs).

also, for lenses, the main things you should look for in a lens is the focal length (denoted by mm) and it's aperture (which can range from 1.2 ~ 5.6). there are other notations for lenses that are specific to each vendor, like USM (which is canon's designation for ultra sonic motor). these things you can learn as you go, but just be sure to get the aperture/focal length down first, as that will be your starting point.