[BrittanyKim]

HiHi
Are there different shutter lives for each camera?
If there is, what's the shutter life for a Canon Rebel xTi?

[awdark]

I believe I saw it was about 50,000 shots

[negitoro]

I like winter break, I have time to randomly read stuff. That transmitter set sounds nice and so much more "intelligent" than the ebay ones. But... after $100 you will still need to but the flash units which are inevitably expensive

How expensive is expensive? For slaves, just some Vivitar 285's for like $90 off B&H. I plan to get a transmitter set and 2 extra recievers, 2 new flashes and cheap lights stands, umbrellas and start playing Strobist LOL You can get it all done for less than 400 bucks.

[terrorist]

I believe I saw it was about 50,000 shots

nvm. lol

[awdark]

I sure hope so! I was just basing the numbers on http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=210384 but those are all just estimates

Hrmm ill look into those out of curosity. Don't a lot of those already pick up the IR blast from the flash though?

[dot1q]

^ My recollection is 50k for XT, XS, and XSi. I never heard anywhere where it states 100k. I believe the 5D is 150k.

In terms of flash, it really depends on your needs. Sometimes you just have to use radio as you have no line of sight from your master. I just use the built in IR on my pair of 580 EX II and it works great for my purposes. Naturally once you start getting in to more advanced setups, a radio trigger is required.

[epark1281]

Nope, canon xti or xti receives all lens =]
but that doesn't go for medium frame or full frame

xti,xti,xsi,30d.40d,50d all have small sensors.. so they'll accept all digital lens.
whats also great is. my friends uncle has adapter in order to put nikon lens on to a canon body..
which is awesome.. the only problem is that you have to manual focus =]

I'm not understanding...
What does sensor size have to do with the mount of a lens?
I use an OM adapter for my olympus OM lens. The OM camera (olympus manual) was a full frame camera. I use a 4/3's adapter which is much smaller than 35mm.
For instance, just because you own a D3 doesn't mean that all of a sudden the lenses that you've used on your D80 or D90 doesn't work. I thought that a lens fit according to the size and shape of your MOUNT, and for digital lens, according to the AF mechanism as well. Am I mistaken?

Yeah, just thinking about manual focusing on a viewfinder as small as that of the Rebels makes my eyes cringe.

I agree. Live view helps...but only so much. Especially if you have a lens that has a wide aperture...you never quite know for sure where the heck your focus is on.

[awdark]

The smaller sensor, allows them to have a smaller mirror. The EF-S lenses are slightly smaller, and protrude into the camera a little bit more while the EF lenses (for the full frame) are flush with the mount (where the focus chip and stuff goes) so if you were to put in a EF-S lens intent for a crop sensor onto a full frame camera... the mirror will collide with the back of the lens and cause a lot of damage.

Your 4/3 doesn't come with a mirror so its not an issue for you

[fiery4hand]

.....hey guys i was wondering wuts a good dslr for just vacation i have money yay xD...mmm any suggestions...im going to florida this new years and i dont want to just use my olympus digicam im giving that to my parentals....sooo dslr time...any good cams =p

...oo by the way i've owned a film slr soo im familiar with an slr....but it was getting old soo we decided to scratch the old cam....

[santarito]

i just bought a canon xsi from cirvuit city at half price... im excited but where do i start? do ido the regular point and shoot?

[erure]

I wonder if anyone remembers that B&H order I griped about not getting... It turns out that FedEx lost the package and then blamed it on B&H for not shipping when they did. So now they have to file a claim and everything, and I'm the only one losing out since I'm not getting what I ordered, probably for much longer now. I can't believe they could lose such a big package... My Gitzo legs, my release, and my remote control... All gone

[negitoro]

In terms of flash, it really depends on your needs. Sometimes you just have to use radio as you have no line of sight from your master. I just use the built in IR on my pair of 580 EX II and it works great for my purposes. Naturally once you start getting in to more advanced setups, a radio trigger is required.

The problem with IR is twofold in my opinion.

One is that your stuck in your camera's system. For Canon users, this means that I'm stuck with 430's and 580's at a premium. For my main flash I'd definitely use one, but if all I need is some light, these offer very little vs. a cheaper 3rd party flash. Second is that you're required to have a master flash. For Canon, this is either a 580 or a ST-E2. Both are expensive, and seem kind of a waste, if you just want to trigger off-camera.

Plus yeah, IR is limited to line of sight in reasonable lighting conditions.

[lxj91]

I want to buy my first DSLR, and I'm not sure which brand to choose.. Nikon or Canon or Sony? I really just want $400-500 range, so I'm choosing between Canon EOS Digital Rebel XS, Sony Alpha A300k, or Nikon D40. The lenses are all similar, probably 18-70 mm since I really just want to start off cheap.

Basically the important features for me are bokeh/blurriness, vivid colours, really good lighting. those are the key features I'm looking for in a DSLR.

Hope someone can help me!~~

[negitoro]

I want to buy my first DSLR, and I'm not sure which brand to choose.. Nikon or Canon or Sony? I really just want $400-500 range, so I'm choosing between Canon EOS Digital Rebel XS, Sony Alpha A300k, or Nikon D40. The lenses are all similar, probably 18-70 mm since I really just want to start off cheap.

Basically the important features for me are bokeh/blurriness, vivid colours, really good lighting. those are the key features I'm looking for in a DSLR.

Hope someone can help me!~~

What exactly do you mean by "really good lighting"? Like a good flash or something?

Bokeh has much more to do with the lens than the body. Color contrast also has a good deal to do with the lens.

Given the cheap kit lenses, neither 3 will offer a significant advantage over one another.

[hippo_sleekz]

I'm ready to convert from nikon to canon! LOL
I went to best buy today and tried out the 50D. it was so beautiful. I really wanted to try the MRK II but the batteries in it must have died.
I liked the functionality and the simplicity in the controls. and it felt to comfortable in your hands. it felt hella nice. I'm not sure if i really need all the features in the MRK II but the 50D should suite me just fine.

[epark1281]

The smaller sensor, allows them to have a smaller mirror. The EF-S lenses are slightly smaller, and protrude into the camera a little bit more while the EF lenses (for the full frame) are flush with the mount (where the focus chip and stuff goes) so if you were to put in a EF-S lens intent for a crop sensor onto a full frame camera... the mirror will collide with the back of the lens and cause a lot of damage.

Your 4/3 doesn't come with a mirror so its not an issue for you

Hold the phone.
My 4/3 camera HAS a mirror box. And to my knowledge, any camera can compensate for the length of the mirror by simply adding a few mm of space in front of the mirror box.
ALL DSLRs have a mirror box. That's why they're called DSLRs. Are you confusing the 4/3's system with the MICRO 4/3s?
I'm sorry, but i don't agree with this one. THE OM system is a full frame camera. I'm using an OM lens on a 4/3's sensor, which is HALF the size. This is a testament to the fact that the SIZE of the sensor has nothing to do with the MOUNT of the camera.
As i remember it correctly, both Nikon's and Canon have a crop factor of 1.6. That being the case, Why, then can you not use Canon lenses on Nikon cameras?
Because the MOUNT and AF mechanism are not the same!

[Mani4ever]

Hi everyone!

Want to say that I love this thread <3

Can you guys post your best advice/tricks how to achieve great shots, etc so we can post them on the first page?

[dot1q]

Hold the phone.
My 4/3 camera HAS a mirror box. And to my knowledge, any camera can compensate for the length of the mirror by simply adding a few mm of space in front of the mirror box.
ALL DSLRs have a mirror box. That's why they're called DSLRs. Are you confusing the 4/3's system with the MICRO 4/3s?
I'm sorry, but i don't agree with this one. THE OM system is a full frame camera. I'm using an OM lens on a 4/3's sensor, which is HALF the size. This is a testament to the fact that the SIZE of the sensor has nothing to do with the MOUNT of the camera.
As i remember it correctly, both Nikon's and Canon have a crop factor of 1.6. That being the case, Why, then can you not use Canon lenses on Nikon cameras?
Because the MOUNT and AF mechanism are not the same!

I think he's just refering to Canon specifically where the two things just happen to coincide (meaning mount and sensor size).

[epark1281]

I think he's just refering to Canon specifically where the two things just happen to coincide (meaning mount and sensor size).

in that case, i still think it's a bit inaccurate. The fact that you can use legacy lenses (35mm sensor, Film SLR) on both 4/3's and APS sensor camera bodies (2x crop and 1.6 crop, respectively) proves that only the mount matters.

[awdark]

in that case, i still think it's a bit inaccurate. The fact that you can use legacy lenses (35mm sensor, Film SLR) on both 4/3's and APS sensor camera bodies (2x crop and 1.6 crop, respectively) proves that only the mount matters.

wow so passionate!
lol Im just saying that EF-s lenses (white dot) and EF lenses (red dot) have the same mount. And the crop cameras like the XT, XTI etc can use both but the full frame ones like the 5D can not use the EF-S (digital specific lenses) without causing internal damage. (stand corrected, sounds like new models can support it, but the older pre-2003 full frame cameras would run into that issue)

Your 2x crop and 1.6 crop is just magical stuff, it could be the cameras with the smaller sensors are just designed for backward compatibility. Hrm... do you know if you can use your 4/3's specific lens on a 35mm camera?

Let me quote a possibly less reliable source but will probably make more sense

The EF-S lens mount is a derivative of the EF lens mount created for a subset of Canon digital single-lens reflex cameras with APS-C sized image sensors. It was released in 2003. Cameras supporting the EF-S mount are backward-compatible with the EF lens mount. Only Canon cameras with the APS-C sized sensor released after 2003 support the mount. All other cameras do not support it.

The "S" in EF-S stands for "short back focus", which means that the rear element of the lens is closer to the image sensor than on regular 35 mm SLR cameras. The proximity of the rear element to the image sensor greatly enhances the possibilities for wide angle and very wide angle lens, enabling them to be made smaller, lighter (containing less glass), faster (larger aperture) and less expensive. Most current Canon EF-S lenses are wide angle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF-S_lens_mount