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The Official DSLR/DRF Threadâ“¥ Let's talk about photography

#4401 User is offline   omegach 

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 09:34 AM

QUOTE (8D_heeeeeeeee @ Sep 5 2009, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks omegach, I just blindly aimed the camera and my friend and let the shutter go. laugh.gif

I'll also be going on a car cursie at the end of the month, so let's see if I can produce some rolling shots just as good as yours :] I may have to give that flash technique zgnoud just suggested, because it'll be at night...

hmm, rolling shots at night will be very difficult, if not impossible. the best time to shoot is either at dusk or dawn, when you don't have to stop down to get nice, long shutter-speeds, but there's still enough light to shoot at a low ISO.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 09:41 AM

Took some pictures yesterday with my D40 (kit lens). Realized I suddenly want better zoom...The last one came out rather blurry, unfortunately. Please critique away so I can learn smile.gif








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Posted 06 September 2009 - 11:27 AM

hello everyone,

I own a Canon T1i (500D) about 1 month now, and looking for a lens upgrade. The lenses that I own are the 18-55 (f/3.5-5.6) kit lens and the 50mm (f/1.4) lens. I'm planning to buy the Canon EF-S 18-135mm (f/3.5-5.6) IS Lens, once it's available to replace my kit lens.

So what's a good Canon lens as my 3rd lenses? I don't plan to spend over $600 for any lens. Any suggestions would help.

Thanks.

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (omegach @ Sep 7 2009, 03:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm, rolling shots at night will be very difficult, if not impossible. the best time to shoot is either at dusk or dawn, when you don't have to stop down to get nice, long shutter-speeds, but there's still enough light to shoot at a low ISO.

Yeah, that's why I was contemplating investing in a SB600 flash. What I'm hoping is that I can pick up a 35mm f1.8 lens by then, and get some photos when we drive through the tunnels on the freeway, as that's probably the only time there'll be enough light.

When I said rolling shots, I really meant we'll be driving at 100km/h blush.gif There's only one way to see how this turns out, unless you've got some more tips you could give me laugh.gif
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 07:24 PM

Random question:

Is there a way to muffle or lessen the electronic shutter sound on a D60? =___=

Whyyyyy do they need this pointless sound. I can't get shots in public without people staring me down.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (Imeline @ Sep 7 2009, 02:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey guys! I've been following this thread for a while and I'm planning on getting an Dslr. However, I totally have no experience with it whatsoever and most of the camera's I have were point and shoot ones.

I'm really interested in photography and I've always been, but haven't had the chance to take it on as a hobby. I feel like this is the time to do so. Which camera would you guys recommend me ? Or is it better with my lack of experience to go with something like a Fujifilm FinePix S2000 HD ?

Also, I'm only seventeen at the moment so I do have a budget. However, I'm willing to invest in a dslr and little by little learn more and more about photography.


Since you say you are willing to invest in a dslr, why not try one of the lower end Nikons? They're pretty cheap right now. I didn't have a huge amount of experience with dslrs before I got mine and you can only learn more when you've got one to practise with right? I suggest you go do some research on some of the entry level dslrs since you're on a budget and read up on the technical things related to dslrs like shutter speed, aperture, etc. There are a lot of beginner dslr guides online which can be a great help because picking up a dslr can feel like picking up a new language.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (Imeline @ Sep 6 2009, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey guys! I've been following this thread for a while and I'm planning on getting an Dslr. However, I totally have no experience with it whatsoever and most of the camera's I have were point and shoot ones.

I'm really interested in photography and I've always been, but haven't had the chance to take it on as a hobby. I feel like this is the time to do so. Which camera would you guys recommend me ? Or is it better with my lack of experience to go with something like a Fujifilm FinePix S2000 HD ?

Also, I'm only seventeen at the moment so I do have a budget. However, I'm willing to invest in a dslr and little by little learn more and more about photography.


Go for it! I got my first SLR (mine was film) when I was 16 and I'd only used point and shoots before. It just takes a little bit of practice and patience. Get a book from the library and read up on basic photography~

I definitely recommend Nikon's entry level DSLRs, as I'm a Nikon girl through and through. I suggest getting a D40 (or D60, but it's more expensive), as it's a nice, basic SLR and you can use basically every Nikon lens made on it! If you want to autofocus on it, you can only use "AF-S" lenses, though.

However, definitely go out and try all of the different cameras in your hands! When I first went to buy a DSLR I was set on buying a Canon Rebel. I went to the store to try it out and I HATED how it felt in my hands and decided Nikon (the D50) was the camera for me.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 08:47 PM

Just a little picture I want to share from my trip to Florida, taken amidst a sightseeing tour in Disney's Animal Kingdom.



Not the best I guess but pretty funny to look at, haha.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 09:43 PM

two-legged deer! awesome!
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 11:01 PM

QUOTE (DarkWaltz @ Sep 7 2009, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just a little picture I want to share from my trip to Florida, taken amidst a sightseeing tour in Disney's Animal Kingdom.


Not the best I guess but pretty funny to look at, haha.


wow look how lean it is.. and those dainty legs to support the whole body weight ohmy.gif

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Posted 07 September 2009 - 03:49 AM

QUOTE (yuns @ Sep 7 2009, 04:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since you say you are willing to invest in a dslr, why not try one of the lower end Nikons? They're pretty cheap right now. I didn't have a huge amount of experience with dslrs before I got mine and you can only learn more when you've got one to practise with right? I suggest you go do some research on some of the entry level dslrs since you're on a budget and read up on the technical things related to dslrs like shutter speed, aperture, etc. There are a lot of beginner dslr guides online which can be a great help because picking up a dslr can feel like picking up a new language.



QUOTE (echoism @ Sep 7 2009, 05:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go for it! I got my first SLR (mine was film) when I was 16 and I'd only used point and shoots before. It just takes a little bit of practice and patience. Get a book from the library and read up on basic photography~

I definitely recommend Nikon's entry level DSLRs, as I'm a Nikon girl through and through. I suggest getting a D40 (or D60, but it's more expensive), as it's a nice, basic SLR and you can use basically every Nikon lens made on it! If you want to autofocus on it, you can only use "AF-S" lenses, though.

However, definitely go out and try all of the different cameras in your hands! When I first went to buy a DSLR I was set on buying a Canon Rebel. I went to the store to try it out and I HATED how it felt in my hands and decided Nikon (the D50) was the camera for me.


Thanks! Another question though (hope I'm not being annoying ^^; I'm just really interested). I looked up the D40 and although it's not as expensive as the others, I still cannot invest in one right now (I'm the typical poor student). Should I practise on photography with a substitute camera right now? One less expensive, but still gives me room to learn more about photography. Some people recommended to me start with lomography or just DSLRs with film. What do you guys think? If you think it's better, what camera should I get then?
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 06:16 AM

QUOTE (8D_heeeeeeeee @ Sep 6 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When I said rolling shots, I really meant we'll be driving at 100km/h blush.gif There's only one way to see how this turns out, unless you've got some more tips you could give me laugh.gif

Since you're going so fast, you might want to use cruise control on both cars (at the same speed), so you don't need to worry about it moving around during your shot. Don't forget to rear sync the flash if you want to use it or youll get lights trailing in front of the car.

QUOTE (albasian @ Sep 6 2009, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Random question:

Is there a way to muffle or lessen the electronic shutter sound on a D60? =___=

Whyyyyy do they need this pointless sound. I can't get shots in public without people staring me down.

The sound isnt from the electronic shutter, but the mirror hitting the camera when it flips up. By itself, the shutter is very very quiet. You might want to look into rangefinders if you want a quiet camera. They lack a mirror, and are famously known for street shooting (cartier-bresson, e.g.)

QUOTE (Imeline @ Sep 7 2009, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks! Another question though (hope I'm not being annoying ^^; I'm just really interested). I looked up the D40 and although it's not as expensive as the others, I still cannot invest in one right now (I'm the typical poor student). Should I practise on photography with a substitute camera right now? One less expensive, but still gives me room to learn more about photography. Some people recommended to me start with lomography or just DSLRs with film. What do you guys think? If you think it's better, what camera should I get then?

Personally, I wouldn't go with lomography because the whole point of lomography is cheap cameras that have fixed exposure settings. Basically it comes down to guess-and-shoot. It's more of a novelty/for-fun than anything else. If you really want to learn about cameras and photography go with a film SLR (no such thing as a dslr with film ;D). They come by real cheap. Only problem is finding great film to use... haha.
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 07:15 AM

QUOTE (Imeline @ Sep 7 2009, 07:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks! Another question though (hope I'm not being annoying ^^; I'm just really interested). I looked up the D40 and although it's not as expensive as the others, I still cannot invest in one right now (I'm the typical poor student). Should I practise on photography with a substitute camera right now? One less expensive, but still gives me room to learn more about photography. Some people recommended to me start with lomography or just DSLRs with film. What do you guys think? If you think it's better, what camera should I get then?


Don't do lomography. The DSLR is expensive but a good camera. The LOMO cameras are expensive crappy, plastic ones. What is your budget like? I can better recommend a film camera if I have some idea.
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 11:24 AM

QUOTE (8D_heeeeeeeee @ Sep 6 2009, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, that's why I was contemplating investing in a SB600 flash. What I'm hoping is that I can pick up a 35mm f1.8 lens by then, and get some photos when we drive through the tunnels on the freeway, as that's probably the only time there'll be enough light.

When I said rolling shots, I really meant we'll be driving at 100km/h :blush: There's only one way to see how this turns out, unless you've got some more tips you could give me :lol:

flash doesn't really work for rolling shots because it will freeze the spinning wheels and portions of the road. the tunnels might provide enough light and make for pretty cool shots though.
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE (echoism @ Sep 7 2009, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't do lomography. The DSLR is expensive but a good camera. The LOMO cameras are expensive crappy, plastic ones. What is your budget like? I can better recommend a film camera if I have some idea.


Thanks for the advice. You too, Baatar. My budget at the moment would be at the most around $400 if I dig deep into my pockets T.T
*sigh* how the hell did I come up with starting a hobby that is so expensive haha laugh.gif
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 01:43 PM

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Thanks for the advice. You too, Baatar. My budget at the moment would be at the most around $400 if I dig deep into my pockets T.T
*sigh* how the hell did I come up with starting a hobby that is so expensive haha laugh.gif


You might as well save up for a DSLR with that budget. ;D If you buy refurbished or used, you can easily get a D40 body for ~$250 and the kit lens for less than $200.

But, since I love film and think everyone should shoot it, here's my real recommendation, haha. I like manual cameras so most of these you'll have to do everything yourself, like focusing and setting aperture and shutter speed (awesome practice!) I suggest starting off with a 50mm prime (f/1.8 of f/2). Instead of zooming you have to move your body to compose the shot.

Nikon FM or FE: These things are solid metal. The FM is my favorite of the two, and is completely manual. The FE has auto-exposure and exposure compensation. They both can use pretty much every single Nikon lens except for the G series. They tend to go for $100 ~ $200 without lenses. HOWEVER, with patience and obsessive craigslist/ebay stalking you can find good deals. I paid less than $45 for the FE and only $30 for the FM.

If you want autofocus, I think most of the autofocus Nikon bodies are good and not that different unless it's a pro body. Mine was a N75, and you can get it for about $60 these days. Also good are the N80 and N90, both of which are around the same price.

Pentax Spotmatic: This is a classic camera (also manual). It uses screwmount lenses, which are very versatile and work on many brands of cameras (which also means many brands of lenses to choose from). However, because this is a very old camera the light meters are sometime broken. Also, it was made to take mercury batteries so you have to find replacement ones. Bodies go for around $100.

Canon AE-1: Another classic camera (manual). Canon changed lens mounts so you can't use modern Canon lenses on it, but the lenses for this camera can be found very cheap. Goes for about $50 ~ $100, lenses are often included. This camera constantly pops up on craigslist.

Olympus OM10 is another very popular film SLR, but to be honest I don't know much about it. Goes for around $50 body only.

Most lenses, especially the basic 50mm lens, can be found for these cameras for around $100 or less.
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 03:18 PM

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i need tripod opinions please

and/or recommendations

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Posted 07 September 2009 - 06:08 PM

^ OMG, I WAS ABOUT TO ASK ABOUT TRIPODS!

can anyways tell me what to look for when looking for a tripod? i hear a lot about ball heads and grip heads and etc, these kinds of things. if i were just looking for a tripod, nothing expensive or highly professional, which would you recommend?
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 09:03 PM

Hey guys, I'm a dslr newbie.

I got my Canon Rebel XS in july and I love it. I've used my camera on events and just when I'm going for walks. But my dads been on my back, saying I should be using my camera even when I'm hanging out with my friends. He's totally right, I should be using it more but I get worried I'm going to drop it or bang my lens against it. I also hate lugging it around. So my question is, Do you guys take your Dslr with you when your just hanging out with your friends? and do you feel comfortable with it?



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Posted 07 September 2009 - 09:19 PM

QUOTE (oliviak712 @ Sep 8 2009, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey guys, I'm a dslr newbie.

I got my Canon Rebel XS in july and I love it. I've used my camera on events and just when I'm going for walks. But my dads been on my back, saying I should be using my camera even when I'm hanging out with my friends. He's totally right, I should be using it more but I get worried I'm going to drop it or bang my lens against it. I also hate lugging it around. So my question is, Do you guys take your Dslr with you when your just hanging out with your friends? and do you feel comfortable with it?


I think it's all personal preference. I don't normally bring mine to uni or when I hang out with friends because I don't like carrying around it along with my books/other stuff. It's really up to you and what kind of shots you want. Sometimes it's a compromise between how much time you spend with your friends and how much time you spend taking pictures of what your friends because you might end up so focused on taking pictures that you don't really hang out with your friends. In the end, for me it's whether or not I can be bothered to lug my dslr around haha.
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