[Clix]

What's a good DSLR to start with? Looking to get into photography.

[erure]

What's a good DSLR to start with? Looking to get into photography.

Nikon D40 or Canon Rebel XT / XTi

[watcher]

canon might come out with a 450D in the spring... lol... things change so quickly. but right now, xt's the cheapest way to go with the most options. they're seriously dirt cheap right now... compared to all the other dslr options out there...

[lockinsocks]

Xarthan & watcher

Thanks for the suggestions.

I'd stick to actually having the money to afford it rather than taking out a loan. I don't want to fall in that percentage of people who are in debt. I'm not a fan of Canons and I don't understand why people like them so much, but I have always prefer Nikon. The pictures that are taken by Nikon cameras appear better in my opinion compare to pictures that are taken by Canon cameras.

just curious, how long has ppl in this thread been into photography? and did you take any classes on photography or did you just go out and shoot and learn?

I took a black and white film photography class last year and I learned quite a lot. As for right now, I'm not taking any classes, but I occasionally use my friend's Nikon D70 to learn more about DSLR.

[watcher]

Xarthan & watcher

Thanks for the suggestions.

I'd stick to actually having the money to afford it rather than taking out a loan. I don't want to fall in that percentage of people who are in debt. I'm not a fan of Canons and I don't understand why people like them so much, but I have always prefer Nikon. The pictures that are taken by Nikon cameras appear better in my opinion compare to pictures that are taken by Canon cameras.
I took a black and white film photography class last year and I learned quite a lot. As for right now, I'm not taking any classes, but I occasionally use my friend's Nikon D70 to learn more about DSLR.

nikon's great. with the new camera bodies out, it gives you some more incentive to go nikon, even if you dont get those. they've got a great lens lineup and flash photography with nikon is unmatched. but when it comes to primes and telephoto, nikon still falls behind canons. and though im not sure about the new nikon bodies yet, canon still consistently outperforms nikon in noise. that's potentially an extra stop of light you can gain. nikon tends to have a better light meter than canon and calculates exposure just a tad bit better. but being a dslr/slr user, this shouldn't be much of an issue! it's got controls on it for a reason! hehe

get a d50/d70 if you want to go nikon. i dont see why not?

ps. $600~$700 of debt is not really much... you should see what my friend's are paying from college/car loans!!! hehehe... heck, one of them pays that much per month for her car!!

[lockinsocks]

nikon's great. with the new camera bodies out, it gives you some more incentive to go nikon, even if you dont get those. they've got a great lens lineup and flash photography with nikon is unmatched. but when it comes to primes and telephoto, nikon still falls behind canons. and though im not sure about the new nikon bodies yet, canon still consistently outperforms nikon in noise. that's potentially an extra stop of light you can gain. nikon tends to have a better light meter than canon and calculates exposure just a tad bit better. but being a dslr/slr user, this shouldn't be much of an issue! it's got controls on it for a reason! hehe

get a d50/d70 if you want to go nikon. i dont see why not?

ps. $600~$700 of debt is not really much... you should see what my friend's are paying from college/car loans!!! hehehe... heck, one of them pays that much per month for her car!!

Yeah, Canon has less noise when it comes to night shots, but I don't think I'll be taking that many night photos. I guess we have different uses for the cameras. But I'm loving the Nikon's body a lot more. It's more rugged and seem more durable compare to Canon's plastic-feel-body.

I was thinking of those two, but I prefer what the D40 has to offer and especially the price.

Wow, your friends must be owing mad money. I definitely don't want to ow more than $500 because I don't make that much money even though I work a lot. $500 is already a lot to me even though it doesn't sound a lot to everyone else, but I'd rather not be in debt and owe money left and right. And you don't want to mess up your credit score at this age.

[EYJAYJAY]

eh.. i went over 1000 in debt for my stuff. im almost out of debt.. just a few hundred more, whew.

[watcher]

hmm... sigma hasnt been giving me the best customer service... if this is reflective of how they treat users... i may just sell my 30 and buy me the 28/1.8 instead. canon might be pricier, but they wont forsake me!!

[EYJAYJAY]

hmm... sigma hasnt been giving me the best customer service... if this is reflective of how they treat users... i may just sell my 30 and buy me the 28/1.8 instead. canon might be pricier, but they wont forsake me!!

donate it to me please

[watcher]

haha.... the 30, i have to admit, is a gem of a lens!! focuses fast and accurate. it needs to get cleaned out. i noticed it squeeks a bit when i point upwards and try to focus. but other than that, silent, smooth, fast and accurate. nice colors and bokeh too. perfect for low light photography up close!!! heck... it's also great for any light photography... it's taken some of my time with my 24-105 L!!!

if only i can get close enough to hyori....

[phasion]

damn this thread. makin me wanna get my own dslr

having friends that shoot for models doesnt help either haha.

[watcher]

damn this thread. makin me wanna get my own dslr

having friends that shoot for models doesnt help either haha.

just get it. why fight it?

[negitoro]

I just got my Rebel XT like 2 months ago as a present and I'm finally starting to remember why I stopped photography as a hobby all those years ago... I'm going broke from buying all these new toys!

It's just one of those hobbies where that 'next upgrade' keeps calling out to you constantly

Man... to be able to afford L glass... *sigh*

[EYJAYJAY]

I just got my Rebel XT like 2 months ago as a present and I'm finally starting to remember why I stopped photography as a hobby all those years ago... I'm going broke from buying all these new toys!

It's just one of those hobbies where that 'next upgrade' keeps calling out to you constantly

Man... to be able to afford L glass... *sigh*

i feel your pain

[watcher]

i'll let u know now...
once you get your first L, there's no turning back...
there will be few lenses you will look at and consider buying after an L , especially when it comes to primes...

[negitoro]

I'm sure. But first I have to find money to buy my first L

I don't even have a full kit yet. I'm sure once I get a set of lens that covers all the necessary focal ranges then I'll start with replacing them one-by-one with L's

[watcher]

I'm sure. But first I have to find money to buy my first L

I don't even have a full kit yet. I'm sure once I get a set of lens that covers all the necessary focal ranges then I'll start with replacing them one-by-one with L's

unless u need those focal ranges immediately, might as well start with an L. and upgrade your L glass accordingly

[negitoro]

LOL I'd love to do that if my budget allowed for it. First priority for me though is that 10-22.

I do admit, that after the 10-22 my next item on the list is a short tele and that 70-200 f/2.8 L IS looks insanely tempting

First though, got to brush up my photography skills. I've become rusty since I dropped the hobby in the film days LOL The pictures I've taken lately, no amount of L glass would save.

[watcher]

LOL I'd love to do that if my budget allowed for it. First priority for me though is that 10-22.

I do admit, that after the 10-22 my next item on the list is a short tele and that 70-200 f/2.8 L IS looks insanely tempting

First though, got to brush up my photography skills. I've become rusty since I dropped the hobby in the film days LOL The pictures I've taken lately, no amount of L glass would save.

i upgraded from the 70-200/4 L to the 70-200/2.8 IS. what i did was buy during rebate period as well as look for special deals from different shops. i bought it as low as possible, and sold during a non-rebate period. i was able to sell my lens at the price i bought it! i only paid for shipping. hehe

the 10-22 is a nice lens. i'd get that too if i used it enough... i think i'll just settle for borrowing a friend's copy from time to time. i know he'll be using my 7-2 IS once in a while.

[Kaga]

I can't wait for the new Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8 lens coming out in Nov. I've been happy with my 12-24mm f/4, but that one extra stop I can lower down to is a huge difference even if I do have rock steady arm stability. It's a shame though that Nikon is still behind in terms of implementing their VR tech to most of their lenses. It seems like Canon has enough money to chuck IS at pretty much every range they offer... T.T

I'm also excited about the new D3.. not so much for myself but for Nikon. I think they've given Canon something to really worry about for the next gen bodies. I doubt I'll go buy a copy though.. but maybe when the D3xs or D4 comes out eventually. But yea, lens far outweigh bodies for me when it comes to purchasing decisions. I think I realized that the most when I sold my D2xs and downgraded for a D200 and I still got the same if not better quality of shots.