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#1801 User is offline   OMGHIyori2U 

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (taintedtears @ Jan 23 2009, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pein is Jiraiya's student? WTH?



did u not read the part when Jiraiya fought Pein and died?







Honestly, sage mode shouldn't wear out as long as Naruto has a clone hiding somewhere gathering up natural energy while the fight is going on.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:57 PM

QUOTE (taintedtears @ Jan 24 2009, 07:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pein is Jiraiya's student? WTH? Does that mean he's like the fourth or soemthing? i'm confused. Damm, it's getting pretty intense.


Maybe you should go back to reading the previous manga chapters before being desparate about next week. vicx.gif
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#1803 User is offline   Aurelius 

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 12:20 AM

hmmm.. the god realm pein is still alive so he can technically revive all of the other deceased peins.
and i don't think that naruto will so easily rely on the kyuubi at this point. no matter what, knowing naruto, he still has chakra left.
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 03:38 AM

QUOTE (OMGHIyori2U @ Jan 23 2009, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
did u not read the part when Jiraiya fought Pein and died?







Honestly, sage mode shouldn't wear out as long as Naruto has a clone hiding somewhere gathering up natural energy while the fight is going on.


however naruto's clone is only at 10 - 30 % strength . they will be able to gather only a limited amount of natural energy . and the way, the Real naruto fighting ( like the FRS dat he threw)
he is using more energy then what he gathered.
its gonna be about time his sage mode runs out. he is exhuasted wacko.gif

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 12:30 PM

QUOTE (hksinglaw @ Jan 24 2009, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
however naruto's clone is only at 10 - 30 % strength . they will be able to gather only a limited amount of natural energy . and the way, the Real naruto fighting ( like the FRS dat he threw)
he is using more energy then what he gathered.
its gonna be about time his sage mode runs out. he is exhuasted wacko.gif

When a ninja uses shadow clones, his/her chakra is divided evenly among the number of clones created. So one clone hiding out should gather about 50% chakra. While Naruto is out of sage mode, he can still access his Nine Tails chakra. Its been a very long time, but he did learn how to use it properly so maybe he can use that.

Also, for some reason, I feel Sasuke is gonna appear out of no where in this fight.
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Posted 25 January 2009 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE (sHiNHaWk @ Jan 25 2009, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When a ninja uses shadow clones, his/her chakra is divided evenly among the number of clones created. So one clone hiding out should gather about 50% chakra. While Naruto is out of sage mode, he can still access his Nine Tails chakra. Its been a very long time, but he did learn how to use it properly so maybe he can use that.

Also, for some reason, I feel Sasuke is gonna appear out of no where in this fight.

that's not true, naruto hasn't learned to use kyuubi properly at all. if he did, he would be as strong as killer bee in full release. naruto loses control after 4 tails, so it's nowhere near under control.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:03 AM

^ that's true... if only Naruto can contorl his 9 tail chakra that would be nice... he would kick pain all the way to mars and back.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:38 PM

hopefully "the key" will give him full use of the kyuubi or maybe even itachi's crow will help
QUOTE (Krn_Track_Star @ Jan 13 2009, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
also the g can already run mid 13s stock and the hks intakes adds an estimated 10 extra hp and the exhausts add like 8 so yeah it should shove off about 1.5 to 2 sec off my times

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 04:11 PM

speaking of "The Crow" ^ what does it do?

my guess its a genjutsu canceller . just for the uchiha boy sasuke

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 04:38 PM

When is Killer Bee's family going to get involved in the story, you think? Weren't they going to make a conference?

Maybe they will somehow help Naruto figure out how to control his nine tails because maybe they know how Killer Bee did it?

There is also Sasuke and Kabuto (w/ Orochimaru) and a bunch of other things that have to get figure out...hmmm

People at school said Kakashi is dead, but that's not confirmed right? I thought when Kakashi told his dad in the crossroad b/w life and dead, "Let me tell you a story..." it seemed like he would come back to life when he finished his story. I mean, why did he stop there? It's just a very non conformational death....
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Posted 28 January 2009 - 09:30 PM

spoilers for chapter 433:



妙木山に仙人モード?の影分身を置いといてフカサクが逆口寄よせでナルトが仙人モードでまた戦 い始めます
間違ってすいませんm(__)m
Naruto left at Myobokusan, senin mode? kagebunshin fukusaku reverse summons another naruto in senin and the battle begins again. I made a mistake sorry m(__)m
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it's hard to see...
影分身に戦術チャクラを練りこませて待機させ、巻きもので妙木山から口寄席した。口寄席したら 影分身解いて 仙術チャクラをオリジナルに還元している
The bunshins are moulding chakra awaiting orders, with the scroll they prepared to be summoned from myobokusan. If they waiting in the kuchiyose seat(?) when the bunshin was dispelled the senjutsu chakra returns to the original.


風遁螺旋シュリケンは1回の仙人モードで1回しか使えない。
naruto can only use FRS once in sennin mode
ナルトは妙ぼく山に影分身を残していて、あと2回、仙人モードが使える。天道復活。
naruto left bunshin in frog world and he can go sennin twice more. Tendou recovers.
最後は人間道倒しておわり
at the end he kills Human realm (that's what is says people don't ask me!!!)


QUOTE (Krn_Track_Star @ Jan 13 2009, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
also the g can already run mid 13s stock and the hks intakes adds an estimated 10 extra hp and the exhausts add like 8 so yeah it should shove off about 1.5 to 2 sec off my times

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 02:12 PM

Man... chpater 433 was good but why the cliff hanger at the end... dang it... now I got to wait till next week...
Pain powers has return to him and now I wonder what is going to happend... I hope by this fight... naruto can control the 9 tail fox within him... my gosh, it's getting so good but so slow for me...
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Posted 30 January 2009 - 03:41 PM

this was an amazing chapter. and if naruto has sage mode, i doubt he needs kyuubi chakra. sage mode > kyuubi...or at least i'd like to think so.
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Posted 30 January 2009 - 06:40 PM

which Pein did Naruto hit in the last page?

And which ones are left?
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Posted 30 January 2009 - 07:27 PM

Actually, i didn't read the jiraiya vs pein chapters. I used to stick to the anime and recently started the manga (I'm still back tracking though). Sorry that my ignorance bothers you. By the way, why can't i be desperate for the next chapter? forget it.

The latest chapter was really cool. Naruto and the frogs. ;D I guess the next chapter will be even more intense considering they'll be fighting at their best. Naruto also figured out the purposes of the different clones so it'll also be strategic.

I'm a little confused though. So before naruto left, he left behind two kage bunshins and when they're summoned to the battle scene, the sage powers that were divided and apart of them, returns to naruto? That's pretty clever but still slightly confusing. ><"



kyuubi prevents him from fusing. i don't remember but does that mean he can not use kyuubi at the same time as sage mode as well?
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Posted 30 January 2009 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE (taintedtears @ Jan 30 2009, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a little confused though. So before naruto left, he left behind two kage bunshins and when they're summoned to the battle scene, the sage powers that were divided and apart of them, returns to naruto? That's pretty clever but still slightly confusing. ><"




The 2 clones are sitting there gathering up sage chakra. When real Naruto summons one of them, he automatically receives any bonuses/experience/extra chakra that the clone gathered. Since the clone was gathering up sage chakra, that allows the real Naruto to go back into sage mode. When he uses up all the sage chakra, he can summon the last clone that's still gathering sage chakra in the toad world and return to sage mode again.


QUOTE (taintedtears @ Jan 30 2009, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kyuubi prevents him from fusing. i don't remember but does that mean he can not use kyuubi at the same time as sage mode as well?


Under normal circumstances, in order to go into Sage Mode, u need somebody to gather up natural energy (or sage chakra). To do this, u would normally have the 2 sage toads sit on the person's shoulder, fuse with him, and gather sage chakra. The only way to gather sage chakra is to sit and be completely still. That's impossible to do when fighting, so the toads act as the sage chakra gatherers while sitting still on the person's shoulder. Fusing simply means that they are combining and gathering their chakra for the person to use Sage powers. That way the person can go into Sage Mode and fight at the same time.

The Kyuubi in Naruto won't allow the 2 toads to fuse with Naruto. So the only way Naruto can gather sage chakra is to have clones sit still somewhere safe and gather sage chakra for him.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 08:18 PM

I"m confused with Pein. I didn't read the manga so maybe they explained, but Pein has 6 bodies and the body that was first shown is actually Yahiko? So which body is really Pein? Or is Pein actually not one of the 6 bodies and controlling all of them and they havent shown him yet?
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Posted 30 January 2009 - 08:28 PM

I think the real Pein is still in the City of Rain in the tower/tomb ala the Matrix and is controlling the 6 bodies through those chakra sticks.

I could be wrong though.
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Posted 30 January 2009 - 10:45 PM

QUOTE (OMGHIyori2U @ Jan 30 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
which Pein did Naruto hit in the last page?

And which ones are left?


he killed hell realm (the one that revives) with the double rasengen and it looked like naruto smashed in hungry ghost's (the one that absorbs) face.

Only a full powered God Realm is left


QUOTE (heartbreakkid @ Jan 30 2009, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I"m confused with Pein. I didn't read the manga so maybe they explained, but Pein has 6 bodies and the body that was first shown is actually Yahiko? So which body is really Pein? Or is Pein actually not one of the 6 bodies and controlling all of them and they havent shown him yet?


The 6 peins are just dead bodies being controlled by Nagato at a different location. The bodies are probably being controlled in a similar method like Kisame during his fight with Gai when he released the 6 gates.
QUOTE (Krn_Track_Star @ Jan 13 2009, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
also the g can already run mid 13s stock and the hks intakes adds an estimated 10 extra hp and the exhausts add like 8 so yeah it should shove off about 1.5 to 2 sec off my times

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 10:53 PM

Some people are suggesting that to control the 6 peins, you need to be fairly close to them hence Nagato is probably near Konoha itself as Konan is there too.


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