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#2201 User is offline   kayem7289 

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:33 PM

Joyce, yahh...I'm finally here and I read your posts. I finally caught up with all the pages (boy there was a lot) and I'm still debating about whether I should post my two cents. After seeing how some people reacted to your harmless posts, I'm kinda afraid, too lol But whatever, what should I be afraid of? We're all MATURE ladies here and we can all reason without having to get all crazy fangirlish.

EDIT: Okay, I'm putting in my two cents because I feel the need to. To you obssessive JaeHo lovers, I suggest you not read this because you'll probably take it the wrong way and overreact, just like how some of you did to other posts that weren't even scathing, whatsoever...Just a suggestion...

Here's my take on JaeHo. (I AM a JaeHo lover, too, do not call me an anti)

I find it very offensive when fangirls call those who don't love JaeHo as much as other couples "homophobic." It's a rude statement to make when you don't know anything about the other person. Just because someone doesn't wish to see their crush or idol be with a person of the same sex DOES NOT mean they are homophobic! Think about it, I LOVE Song Hye Kyo and Yoon Eun Hye, they're both beautiful girls. What if they all of sudden became best friends and started hanging out with each other excessively, partying, shopping, sleepovers, etc. and people started referring to them as lesbians? How would you feel about that? Just because they like to be around each other doesn't make them lesbians, and I'm sure there's a lot of fans out there who would jump the bandwagon of "SHK+YEH= tears.gif" so does that make them lesbians?
I don't know about you guys, but if I have a crush on this really hot guy, and then there's this other really hot guy I like, I would NOT want them to be together. Simply because I would prefer them with me. It's fine for you to want them to be that way, but just because someone else doesn't doesn't give you the right to label them that way. We all know that JaeHo/YunJae is loved as a yaoi couple, what if I took another couple that was not known to be a yaoi couple (like MinHo) and started calling them "lovers" and such. I'm sure many of you would be like, "Ummm...They're really cute, but I don't like them that way..." Does this give me the right to call you a homophobe?

But back to the point, I think JaeHo would really appreciate the fact that you care so much about their relationship and observe them so much, but I think that some of you are to the point of just being plain ignorant. It's not necessarily that there's more "real" JaeHo moments, but it's the fact that you pay more attention to them more than any other couple, so naturally you'd tell yourself that there was more loving there. The "special moments" and chemistry some of you mention is just as applicable to other couples, but your biasedness alters your thinking. Pay attention to other couples and you'll notice that they have those "special" moments, too. It's perfectly fine being a total yaoi YunJae camper, but you'll have to face the facts that some might disagree with you and IT'S OKAY.

The thing that also irks me is how people always refer to JaeHo as being the "True" couple. WTH is that supposed to mean? You all talk about how there's all these haters out there who don't support JaeHo? But have you realized that you'd probably feel just the same way if someone else were to praise another couple more than JaeHo? How do you think that makes us YooSu, JaeMin, JaeChun, Hosu, etc. lovers feel when we're told that only JaeHo is a real couple?! To say that our couples are "Fanservices" and your's is not, is hypocritical. If you say stuff about your couple being the best, then we should have the right to claim how our couple is the best, too. This doesn't apply necessarily to JaeHo, but to just about everything in general. What YOU like, someone else may NOT like, don't say I'm wrong because I'll just say you're wrong right back.

Not to mention, the amount of JaeHo is excessive and obssessive. Honestly, the amount of fangirling and screaming for JaeHo is almost exaggerated. Seriously, I have seen MANY, MANY, MANY photos of them just simply STANDING next to each other, and people are already screaming, "OMG!! That is sooooo JaeHo love right there!" Like someone mentioned to me, JaeHo was simply wearing glasses this one time and it was deemed to be a "JaeHo moment." Really? Just standing next to each other is considered a "_____ moment" now? Wouldn't that mean that every single DBSK pic out there would have a YooSu, JaeChun, JaeMin, HoMin moment because of the order they stand in? It gets annoying when every single picture we see is labeled a JaeHo picture just because they are next to each other. I'm sure all of you would be annoyed if I cropped all my DBSK group pix into JaeChun only, posted them and then screamed about it, right? It's not even the full picture, they are simply standing next to each other, but yet I claim it to be a JaeChun moment, yeah...pretty annoying. Just stop with the overreacting already, we all notice real JaeHo moments just like any of you can recognize other couple moments, so there's no need to blow it out of proportion, it gets excessive.

Lastly, please do not just call them gay because you want it that way. Sure you say there's a lot of evidence, but so what? This doesn't mean you should go around saying that about them. What if JaeHo read all your posts, think about how they'd feel? Each of us has our own wishful thinking, but it's not polite to apply it to real life. JaeHo likes to hold hands, touch each other's thighs, touching in general...Yeah, and??? That's the same with every other couple, they like to touch each other, PERIOD. Calling them a gay couple just encourages more anti-fans, and I as a JaeHo fan, am not very pleased with that. Do you all not read the nasty comments people leave on JaeHo/YunJae tributes on youtube? They are rude, crude, and completely uncalled for, but some of you enable all the hating and dissing to go on with all the discussions. For now, just keep your opinions to yourself so that newbies and anti's won't be able to say all that they say. Until I see them making out or something that CLEARLY states their sexual orientation, I choose to believe what the mojarity believes in. That they are just young boys who are overly affectionate. I don't care how obssessive and observant you are, you can even be just a JaeHo fan (And not a DBSK fan), have all their videos and pay as much attention as you want, but you DO NOT know them. Stop with the speculations. There was a girl who came here once and talked about Yunho+Stephanie, basically described all the special moments they had like how you guys describe the JaeHo moments, and she was bashed for speculating. Hypocrite much?

Like others said, Koreans in general are more touchy-feely. It's completely normal.

I'm not going to apologize beforehand because I, in no way, see this post as offensive in any way, shape or form. It's just an opinion that I'm sure many people feel, but are just too afraid to write up. If some of you feel offended, feel free to reply back with legitimate reasons. Don't just give me some, "If you don't like JaeHo then just go away!" Because I've already stated that I like JaeHo, not an obssessed fan, but I do find them very appealing. I'm sure that if we were to talk about another couple that we love besides JaeHo, some of you wouldn't even join in because I've rarely seen any of you here.

People have different opinions and likings than you, get over it. Don't attack someone or call her a hater because she doesn't agree with you.

I will; however, apologize for the long post.

...That's all.

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:37 PM

This is kinda out of the blue, but can someone explain to me wat the Artist Photo of the Month - March 2007: Dong Bang Shin Ki is. Is it just pictures of them during there 2nd concert?
I feel kinda stupid because i already bought it but i am asking this now. I also feel stupid because i accidently bought 2 copies of it so now i am going to have 2 sets.*no clue of wat to do the the extra one* I just found out the it is already sold out so i wanna say sorry for buying one extra because if i didnt then someone could have gotten one instead of now waiting for them to ship in more.


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*clap clap for kayem7289* Wow your words are so strong *in a good way* I totally agree with you.

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:40 PM

QUOTE(sillyHO @ Mar 13 2007, 11:24 PM) View Post
Question: Why does the boys not have girlfriends? I dont think they are that picky..and even if they are, well there are so many girls out there wanting to be their gfs.

I seriously hope the boys arnt in this sorta situation where SM controls everything they do. LSM cant be that badd heh heh......sry for my ranting. [/color] vicx.gif


(0. I'm also picky when it comes to potential boyfriends, duh sleep.gif. )
1. Its hard to keep the relationship alive despite their busy schedules.
2. I could also imagine them getting a little paranoid, cuz there are surely many girls out there who only wnat them for their fame & money
3. Fangirlz would KILL her (remember that one girl who got beaten up because she SUPPOSEDLY kissed Yunho!?)
4. I'm sure some of them also get their "fun" from time to time even if they are not in a committed relationship if you know what I mean sleep.gif
5. YES he can be that bad and I'm sure he IS. (its very common in the entertainment buissnes, i.e. Hello!Project (Tsunku), Johnny's Jimusho (Kitagawa Johnny))
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:46 PM

AHHH!! Thos pictures are so so cute!! I love htem all!! The Choosey Lover ones and the Magazine one!! Thanks for sharing!! And about this whole Jaeho prob. umm although I am not a fan, I don't mind it, I just don't like the fact that some people put them together as couple couples, but if just brotherly love then I am ok with it!!

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:58 PM

QUOTE(sillyHO @ Mar 13 2007, 06:24 PM) View Post
Question: Why does the boys not have girlfriends? I dont think they are that picky..and even if they are, well there are so many girls out there wanting to be their gfs. One of my older friends ( a musician ) said that the problem with signing contracts is that you pretty much sign your life away to a company for the period of time the contract states. This means that the company can control everything you do, including the songs you sing, the money you make from album sales and even little things like having a girlfriend. See, girlfriends can mean for dbsk that many of their fans wont be happy and they may not concentrate as hard, the company mite not like this. Of course it just mite be that the boys are too busy or simply dont want girlfriends right now..but I was just wondering ><, since a lot of other artists dont have girl/boyfriends.

I seriously hope the boys arnt in this sorta situation where SM controls everything they do. LSM cant be that badd heh heh......sry for my ranting. [/color] vicx.gif


hmmm it could be that they do have gfs and just hide it really well. But with all the stalker fans they have, they'd have to hide it REALLY REALLY well. I honestly don't mind if they get gfs, but we all know that there are a lot of fans who do and their popularity may go down because of that. I think that it might be SM but it may also be that the boys themselves do not want to lose popularity. They're still young so maybe its career first, love later? Because DBSK won't be this popular forever... they could be taking advantage of their fame for now and choosing to not focus on anything else. Girlfriends take time and that's something they don't really have a lot of. Keeping a relationship with them would be really hard. Anyway, I'm sure they have their flings and stuff, which is only healthy for guys their age.


Now about the Jaeho. No one should say "we know" anything because even if we're the most obsessive fan ever, we don't know ANYTHING when it comes to their personal lives other than what they choose to tell us. So it really doesn't matter what everyone believes because no one will know unless we hear it from their mouths (which even if Jaeho was real, they'd probably never say it).

Well one thing's for sure. Jaeho loves each other!! As well as Minsu, Jaechun, Homin, Yunchun, Hosu, Yoosu, Jaemin, Jaesu, Yoomin... hmm did I leave any out? Anyway, whether its in a romatic way or not, these boys all love each other to death... There's no point of trying to figure out what kind of love it is. Any kind of love is beautiful.

edit: I really don't think anyone should try to crush Jaeho believers. I mean I don't really care whether they're real or not but there are fans who do and why not just let them believe what they want? In the end, its just what they believe. They may have evidence but none of it is proof. If they get happy by seeing all these Jaeho moments, then why interfere? Does it really make you feel better to stomp on what someone else believes? Why bother with something you can never prove? What some Jaeho fans call "jaeho moments" may seem ridiculous to you but they may find it really cute or heartwarming. If you have your own favorite couple, then post their moments! No one is stopping anyone. Theres no reason to attack Jaeho fans. It's just that there seems to be more Jaeho fans than other couplings but no ones stopping anyone from liking other couples or calling them the OTP.

Gay or not... I love these boyssssss <3



My questions for them! I was late to school this morning because I had to do it before the deadline lol

1. Is there anything you guys regret about choosing this path (of a celebrity)?

2. If all of you fell into the ocean and no one knew how to swim besides you, who would you save first?

3. Do you guys ever plan to have a concert in the US? (US fans still really want to see you guys!)

4. How would you propose to a girl you wanted to marry?

5. When do you guys think Tohoshinki will end? Do you guys ever plan to retire from the entertainment industry?
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:06 PM

QUOTE(kanglui @ Mar 13 2007, 03:54 PM) View Post
regarding the question asking thingy on the yahoo! Live Talk. who else is sending in questions? and what are u guys asking?? i sure hope everyone takes part! this will increase our chances!! and we rarely have chances like that too!! one thing that is making me have a headache is what to ask. i have SO many questions, but dont knw if my question is appropriate.. GAHH!!! im juz downright weird.. *whattoaskwhattoaskwhattoask*

I sent a question but my questions never get picked in online interviews dry.gif I asked what everyone asked already, are you coming to [fill in country]? tongue.gif But more like do they intend to have a world tour? lol (they would never come in Belgium anyway...)

Btw, first time posting in this thread (too afraid to break a rule haha). TVXQ is actually one of the last band I thought I would like! One day, I saw one of the NG video of their Banjun drama on youtube and watched it (just because I like NG's) and I hadn't laughed like that in a long time even though I didn't know them! I really liked the humour in all their Banjun drama and the fact that they easily make fun of themselves. Unexpectedly I love their songs, especially Junsu's singing touches me a lot.

QUOTE(sillyHO)
Question: Why does the boys not have girlfriends? I dont think they are that picky..and even if they are, well there are so many girls out there wanting to be their gfs.

Didn't Micky have a girlfriend when he was already in TVXQ? Or maybe I got it completely wrong again...

edit: I like your questions zhenai smile.gif
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:08 PM

my first post heeere
well... hi i guess^^

QUOTE(Auralie @ Mar 13 2007, 11:40 PM) View Post
(0. I'm also picky when it comes to potential boyfriends, duh sleep.gif. )
1. Its hard to keep the relationship alive despite their busy schedules.
2. I could also imagine them getting a little paranoid, cuz there are surely many girls out there who only wnat them for their fame & money
3. Fangirlz would KILL her (remember that one girl who got beaten up because she SUPPOSEDLY kissed Yunho!?)
4. I'm sure some of them also get their "fun" from time to time even if they are not in a committed relationship if you know what I mean sleep.gif
5. YES he can be that bad and I'm sure he IS. (its very common in the entertainment buissnes, i.e. Hello!Project (Tsunku), Johnny's Jimusho (Kitagawa Johnny))


^soooo true!!
i mean really... if i were them, i would be picky too... but i don't think they actually have the time to date or even check girls out....
unless they're their makeup people or something...

.....and well changmin and his 'videos' .... i bet they talk about achem whatevertheywerewatching ...
and yeahh since they don't get actual affection, actually they do...from us fans yes, but we're just not close as well them ...
annddd... that's why they're just really close.... but.. brotherly .... from what i see ^^
they don't actually kiss... on the lips... dry.gif
it's either PSed or plain FUN, they ARE allowed to have fun... smile.gif
but mostly it's just the fans imagination and blah...

Fans really bashed a girl who supposedly kissed yunho?!

oooooook... crazy.gif


lastly... i would like to thank all yas for the information and pictures^^

oh. and .... what did were your Qs for the Yahoo! Live Talk thing?


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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:16 PM

QUOTE(yvonne83 @ Mar 13 2007, 04:06 PM) View Post
I sent a question but my questions never get picked in online interviews dry.gif I asked what everyone asked already, are you coming to [fill in country]? tongue.gif But more like do they intend to have a world tour? lol (they would never come in Belgium anyway...)

Btw, first time posting in this thread (too afraid to break a rule haha). TVXQ is actually one of the last band I thought I would like! One day, I saw one of the NG video of their Banjun drama on youtube and watched it (just because I like NG's) and I hadn't laughed like that in a long time even though I didn't know them! I really liked the humour in all their Banjun drama and the fact that they easily make fun of themselves. Unexpectedly I love their songs, especially Junsu's singing touches me a lot.
Didn't Micky have a girlfriend when he was already in TVXQ? Or maybe I got it completely wrong again...

edit: I like your questions zhenai smile.gif


hey there^^

Wecome to the thread! ^^

We are usually really nice in here hahaha :3

Yeah, a lot of people has known dbsg because of the banjuns Dramas... aahhh such classics XD

And yes, Micky did had a girlfriend when he was already in the group, in fact it was one of BoA's back-up dancer, and she was older than him :3 (i thinkshe was like 23 and Chun was like 18 or sth)



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QUOTE(jun;MON @ Mar 13 2007, 04:20 PM) View Post
It's hard for the boys to get girlfriends! Lol

It's true, Korean fans just might possible bash the girl if they found out they're dating the boys. :| I know.. scary.

BUT that doesn't stop me from wanting to date Junsu. la la la <3

I thought the whole Yoochun dating BoA's back dancer thing was a rumor. :x
He did previously had one back in the States. What was her name? Starts with the H or something.
-shrugs-


:x The boys probably haven't meet their dream girl. smile.gif Watch their all about DVD and watch them describe their dream girl again. Maybe it's you.
Edit: Good job kayem7289 well written. <3 smile.gif

V I thought it was rumor too, but then I saw this vid in Youtube with yoochun and this girl, with pics of them together, being a couple xD (she was sitting in his lap in one picture i think, and other they were like out on a trip and stuff) I really don't know where does pics came from, but well, those were rather old :x

Yoochun is now with me single xD rofl...


kayem7289 - I agree with your post and i think you are absolutely right, but i guess the problem is not that some fans are obssesive with yunjae, is because some people takes things too seriosly ,,,eeeekkk X.x

but whatever, i'm in a yoosu state of mind all the time xD *dorks around shamelessly like yoosu does*
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:20 PM

It's hard for the boys to get girlfriends! Lol

It's true, Korean fans just might possible bash the girl if they found out they're dating the boys. :| I know.. scary.

BUT that doesn't stop me from wanting to date Junsu. la la la <3

I thought the whole Yoochun dating BoA's back dancer thing was a rumor. :x
He did previously had one back in the States. What was her name? Starts with the H or something.
-shrugs-

:x The boys probably haven't meet their dream girl. :) Watch their all about DVD and watch them describe their dream girl again. Maybe it's you.


Edit: Good job kayem7289 well written. <3 :)

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE(yvonne83 @ Mar 14 2007, 12:06 AM) View Post
I sent a question but my questions never get picked in online interviews dry.gif I asked what everyone asked already, are you coming to [fill in country]? tongue.gif But more like do they intend to have a world tour? lol (they would never come in Belgium anyway...)


i'm not DBSK but I think I can answer it as well and the answer is NO. Simply not profitable enugh we all know that SM's 1# goal is profit.
They didnt even release album outside of asia because sm know they wont make much money with it so the changes that they even tour overseas is VERY little

QUOTE(jun;MON @ Mar 14 2007, 12:20 AM) View Post
He did previously had one back in the States. What was her name? Starts with the H or something.
-shrugs-


that "ONE" made me smile rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif *isn't implying anything phew.gif *
(I wonder if he himself remembers all of his "gf"'s names
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:41 PM

QUOTE(kayem7289 @ Mar 13 2007, 05:33 PM) View Post
Joyce, yahh...I'm finally here and I read your posts. I finally caught up with all the pages (boy there was a lot) and I'm still debating about whether I should post my two cents. After seeing how some people reacted to your harmless posts, I'm kinda afraid, too lol But whatever, what should I be afraid of? We're all MATURE ladies here and we can all reason without having to get all crazy fangirlish.

EDIT: Okay, I'm putting in my two cents. To you obssessive JaeHo lovers, I suggest you not read this because you'll probably take it the wrong way and overreact, just like how some of you did to other posts that weren't even scathing, whasoever...Just a suggestion...

Here's my take on JaeHo. (I AM a JaeHo lover, too, do not call me an anti)

I find it very offensive when fangirls call those who don't love JaeHo as much as other couples "homophobic." It's a rude statement to make when you don't know anything about the opther person. Just because someone doesn't wish to see their crush or idol be with a person of the same sex DOES NOT mean they are homophobic! Think about it, I LOVE Song Hye Kyo and Yoon Eun Hye, they're both beautiful girls. What if they all of sudden became best friends and started hanging out with each other excessively, partying, shopping, sleepovers, etc. and people started referring to them as lesbians? How would you feel about that? Just because they like to be around each other doesn't make them lesbians, and I'm sure there's a lot of fans out there who would jump the bandwagon of "SHK+YEH= tears.gif" so does that make them lesbians?
I don't know about you guys, but if I have a crush on this really hot guy, and then there's this other really hot guy I like, I would NOT want them to be together. Simply because I would prefer them with me. It's fine for you to want them to be that way, but just because someone else doesn't doesn't give you the right to label them that way. We all know that JaeHo/YunJae is loved as a yaoi couple, what if I took another couple that was not known to be a yaoi couple (like MinHo) and started calling them "lovers" and such. I'm sure many of you would be like, "Ummm...They're really cute, but I don't like them that way..." Does this give me the right to call you a homophobe?

But back to the point, I think JaeHo would really appreciate the fact that you care so much about their relationship and observe them so much, but I think that some of you are to the point of just being plain ignorant. It's not necessarily that there's more "real" JaeHo moments, but it's the fact that you pay more attention to them more than any other couple, so naturally you'd tell yourself that there was more loving there. The "special moments" and chemistry some of you mention is just as applicable to other couples, but your biasedness alters your thinking. Pay attention to other couples and you'll notice that they have those "special" moments, too. It's perfectly fine being a total yaoi YunJae camper, but you'll have to face the facts that some might disagree with you and IT'S OKAY.

The thing that also irks me is how people always refer to JaeHo as being the "True" couple. WTH is that supposed to mean? You all talk about how there's all these haters out there who don't support JaeHo? But have you realized that you'd probably feel just the same way if someone else were to praise another couple more than JaeHo? How do you think that makes us YooSu, JaeMin, JaeChun, Hosu, etc. lovers feel when we're told that only JaeHo is a real couple?! To say that our couples are "Fanservices" and your's is not, is hypocritical. If you say stuff about your couple being the best, then we should have the right to claim how our couple is the best, too. This doesn't apply necessarily to JaeHo, but to just about everything in general. What YOU like, someone else may NOT like, don't say I'm wrong because I'll just say you're wrong.

Not to mention, the amount of JaeHo is excessive and obssessive. Honestly, the amount of fangirling and screaming for JaeHo is almost exaggerated. Seriously, I have seen MANY, MANY, MANY photos of them just simply STANDING next to each other, and people are already screaming, "OMG!! That is sooooo JaeHo love right there!" Like someone mentioned to me, JaeHo was simply wearing glasses this one time and it was deemed to be a "JaeHo moment." Really? Just standing next to each other is considered a "_____ moment" now? Wouldn't that mean that every single DBSK pic out there would have a YooSu, JaeChun, JaeMin, HoMin moment because of the order they stand in? It gets annoying when every single picture we see is labeled a JaeHo picture just because they are next to each other. I'm sure all of you would be annoyed if I cropped all my DBSK group pix into JaeChun only, posted them and then screamed about it, right? It's not even the full picture, they are simply standing next to each other, but yet I claim it to be a JaeChun moment, yeah...pretty annoying. Just stop with the overreacting already, we all notice real JaeHo moments just like any of you can recognize other couple moments, so there's no need to blow it out of proportion, it gets excessive.

Lastly, please do not just call them gay because you want it that way. Sure you say there's a lot of evidence, but so what? This doesn't mean you should go around saying that about them. What if JaeHo read all your posts, think about how they'd feel? Each of us has our own wishful thinking, but it's not polite to apply it to real life. JaeHo likes to hold hands, touch each other's thighs, touching in general...Yeah, and??? That's the same with every other couple, they like to touch each other, PERIOD. Calling them a gay couple just encourages more anti-fans, and I as a JaeHo fan, am not very pleased with that? Do you all not read the nasty comments people leave on JaeHo/YunJae tributes on youtube? They are rude, crude, and completely uncalled for, but some of you enable all the hating and dissing to go on. For now, just keep your opinions to yourself so that newbies and anti's won't be able to say all that they say. Until I see them making out or something that CLEARLY states their sexual orientation, I choose to believe what the mojarity believes in. That they are just young boys who are overly affectionate.

Like others said, Koreans in general are more touchy-feely.

I'm not going to apologize beforehand because I, in no way, see this post as offensive in any way, shape or form. It's just an opinion that I'm sure many people feel, but are just too afraid to write up. If some of you feel offended, feel free to reply back with legitimate reasons. Don't just give me some, "If you don't like JaeHo then just go away!" Because I've already stated that I like JaeHo, not an obssessed fan, but I do find them very appealing. I'm sure that if we were to talk about another couple that we love besides JaeHo, some of you wouldn't even join in because I've rarely seen any of you here.

People have different opinions and likings than you, get over it. Don't attack someone or call her a hater because she doesn't agree with you.

I will; however, apologize for the long post.

...That's all.

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Nicely said although your friend should have posted her thoughts in a more eloquent way because her original post was rather offensive to Jaeho fans. No one is imposing the view of liking Jaeho into anyone here at all. We just don't want to be cornered as crazy, fangirls because of supporting our favorite couple. Your post was rather insightful I might say. smile.gif I'd like to see who said that only Jaeho is the true couple while others are not because I support Minsu, Yoomin, etc as well.

You really can't determine which couple is truly real or not just by obssessive fans or how you consider yourself as dedicated fangirls of DBSK. Only the guys in DBSK know, not us, not the press or whoever. I just feel that there is a sense of hostility everytime we discuss about Jaeho. Yet when fans fantasize about being married to the guys or having children with them, or pairing the boys with other girls are ok.

We do welcome discussions of Jaemin, Jaechun, Yoosu, or other couples in the thread but there are rarely any that I have seen. So you can't really blame us for not taking part in the discussions besides Jaeho. Why don't some of you start discussing about Yoosu or whoever and I'd be gladly put in my input. smile.gif
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:46 PM

kayem7289: Very well written. I agree with you on every single one of your points. <333

Truthfully, this whole JaeHo/YoonJae thing brings on a tremendous sense of deja-vu because I've seen similar pairing debates pop up in pretty much EVERY fandom I've ever come across. It's just the way fandoms roll I guess. tongue.gif

As for the boys getting girlfriends...

I'd feel all at once jealous and sorry for the girl... mostly sorry, because the fans would absolutely slaughter her. x_x Even if that weren't the case, dating celebrities are generally very stressful for both parties. And with the boys' already jam-packed schedules the last thing they want is an extra burden like that.

I really do hope that they'll eventually get married and settle down, cuz they absolutely deserve all the happiness they can get.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:50 PM

BTW, asserting that someone might be gay shouldn't be considered an insult. There is nothing wrong with being gay.
Also, none of those JaeHo spazzers called JaeHo gay; they just fervently wish it. lol

.. I'm defending JaeHo and I'm not even a fan. gah vicx.gif

QUOTE(*Callie* @ Mar 13 2007, 03:41 PM) View Post
Nicely said although your friend should have posted her thoughts in a more eloquent way because her original post was rather offensive to Jaeho fans. No one is imposing the view of liking Jaeho into anyone here at all. We just don't want to be cornered as crazy, fangirls because of supporting our favorite couple. Your post was rather insightful I might say. smile.gif I'd like to see who said that only Jaeho is the true couple while others are not because I support Minsu, Yoomin, etc as well.

You really can't determine which couple is truly real or not just by obssessive fans or how you consider yourself as dedicated fangirls of DBSK. Only the guys in DBSK know, not us, not the press or whoever. I just feel that there is a sense of hostility everytime we discuss about Jaeho. Yet when fans fantasize about being married to the guys or having children with them, or pairing the boys with other girls are ok.

We do welcome discussions of Jaemin, Jaechun, Yoosu, or other couples in the thread but there are rarely any that I have seen. So you can't really blame us for not taking part in the discussions besides Jaeho. Why don't some of you start discussing about Yoosu or whoever and I'd be gladly put in my input. smile.gif


You took the word right out of my mouth.

Seriously, if some of you don't like the JaeHo talks, ignore it and talk about something else. People have a right to talk about what they like from the group and you have a right to ignore them. You do NOT have the right to impose your own beliefs on them or pressure them to stop discussing something that is within the rules. It's not even excessive.
I actually dislike JaeHo a lot, but I don't think it'll be fair to make other people stop discussing the issue just because I don't feel comfortable with it.


Regarding those girlfriends questions.. every time someone mentions 'girlfriend' and 'DBSK' in a sentence nowadays, I immediately think of that hoochie barbie JunSu dressed up. lol
Seriously, I'd crack up so bad if he wants his gf to dress like that, leopard prints and all.



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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:50 PM

Boy all this fighting over such an innocent topic like JaeHo? All I can say is this, if you don't like JaeHo, ignore the comments made about them. If you know in your own mind that their relationship is nothing more than friendship, don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. But keep rude comments and opinions to yourself, and this goes for both ends of the arguement. I am not pin pointing this as anyone's fault, all I am saying is that both sides may need to stop bringing up the topics they now know can start a heated arguement. JaeHo lovers, mention JaeHo love if you want, but remember not to overkill it so that the people who don't care for it won't be offended. JaeHo haters, just try and keep your anger and rude comments inside. I hope I am not sounding like a you-know-what here, but I just don't like all the fighting that is going on here, it is making this thread look bad.

Sorry if I offended anyone, I am just trying to bring the two sides to a compromise. I know my comments aren't the reflection of everyones here either, I am mostly just wanting the argueing to stop.

(This is coming from an outsiders point of view, since I like JaeMin, not JaeHo.)


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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:54 PM

I hope everyone participates in the YAHOO! JAPAN Live english question sending to Tohoshinki 8D <3

oh and I wanted to say about the JAEHO stuff..

It's called FANSERVICE people. rolleyes.gif Don't take it so seriously.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE(kayem7289 @ Mar 13 2007, 04:33 PM) View Post
Joyce, yahh...I'm finally here and I read your posts. I finally caught up with all the pages (boy there was a lot) and I'm still debating about whether I should post my two cents. After seeing how some people reacted to your harmless posts, I'm kinda afraid, too lol But whatever, what should I be afraid of? We're all MATURE ladies here and we can all reason without having to get all crazy fangirlish.

EDIT: Okay, I'm putting in my two cents. To you obssessive JaeHo lovers, I suggest you not read this because you'll probably take it the wrong way and overreact, just like how some of you did to other posts that weren't even scathing, whasoever...Just a suggestion...

Here's my take on JaeHo. (I AM a JaeHo lover, too, do not call me an anti)

I find it very offensive when fangirls call those who don't love JaeHo as much as other couples "homophobic."
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People have different opinions and likings than you, get over it. Don't attack someone or call her a hater because she doesn't agree with you.


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rolleyes.gif I SECOND THAT!

I LOVE MY XIAH JUNSU. He is my Dolphin! my dolphin's duckie butt! so HOT HOT HOT!


04/09/2007: I NEED HELP! BTW, Does anyone know if the J-Movie "Boku wa Imouto ni koi wo suru" aka "I love my little sister" *ing Jun Matsumoto is out already in dvd with english subs ? Anyone here from Japan?
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 04:05 PM

I found another picture that needs explaining...I'm pretty sure this pic is just two look-a-likes, because I think the guy who is suppose to be Jaejoong is to skinny..buuuut, it looks real...take a look:



Well? Is that really Jaejoong and Yunho KISSING!! Like fully making out...either way it's kinda hot...but it really can't be them, can it?
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 04:06 PM

QUOTE(Ettawen @ Mar 13 2007, 07:05 PM) View Post
I found another picture that needs explaining...I'm pretty sure this pic is just two look-a-likes, because I think the guy who is suppose to be Jaejoong is to skinny..buuuut, it looks real...take a look:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Ett...ow20Kissing.jpg

Well? Is that really Jaejoong and Yunho KISSING!! Like fully making out...either way it's kinda hot...but it really can't be them, can it?


You can rest assured that those are not Jaejoong and Yunho. I believe they were coplayers or something similar to that.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 04:07 PM

hi ^^ 1st time posting here hehe blush.gif or did i post something here before ? haha *bad memory*
about the yahoo! JAPAN live-talk, we can ask as many questions as we want right ? haha i dont even know what 2 ask but i came up with 2 questions =]
i dont think its too late now because the timezone there is just around 1 PM.
i hope mine will make it but i havent send it yet haha sweatingbullets.gif
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 04:07 PM

sorry for posting in soompi again.

I sent my questions for YAHOO JAPAN thing already. But when will it be aired? Is it coming on TV or in the radio? I hope someone will upload it in Youtube as soon as it is aired... I wanna see if my questions get answered.. I want answers to all of them..

Hey, anyone knows why they are not learning English? Is it true that in Korea, English is not taught? I mean not seriously from kindergarten? I mean I m not Korean and neither am I American or European but still we were taught English very well. I wonder how it was with DBSK.


and i just saw this post of pics just above my post.
Hey, why do u guys wanna create controversies by posting those pics? They are not DBSK Members. Please dont do it any further....

EDIT: DANG! Why is it always with me? I didnt get to own page 112.. i m the last one in this page.. oo nooooo... I sud have waited a few seconds...
EDIT: hehe.. but i owned page 141 !! oooooo at last!! another one that i own!
I LOVE MY XIAH JUNSU. He is my Dolphin! my dolphin's duckie butt! so HOT HOT HOT!


04/09/2007: I NEED HELP! BTW, Does anyone know if the J-Movie "Boku wa Imouto ni koi wo suru" aka "I love my little sister" *ing Jun Matsumoto is out already in dvd with english subs ? Anyone here from Japan?
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