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Posted 05 April 2009 - 11:27 PM

Need some tips (please ^^).

Well, I've started private tutoring a student. She's a 3rd year middle school student who is trying to get into a "prestigious" high school. And I guess in order to get into that particular high school she will be particpating in a english essay contest type thing. So, as her tutor, I'm responsible in improving her skills in writing essays. And I've been told her main weakness is grammar. So, I went out and got a book on grammar.

So far, I only had one lesson with her. But how it went was I just read with her materials from the book (of course, added some personal comments here and there), and had her do the practice problems. I did this with about ten sections from the first chapter. I also had her practice brainstorming by making outlines/mind maps. Then practicing writing paragraphs. However, not only did I finish teaching before the 2 hours was up... but I admit my lesson doesn't have much content and seems kind of dull.

I was just wondering if any fellow teachers here had any tips. Lessons or activities to add. I'm not creative at all and I don't really know what else I can teach other than grammar and basic essay rules. Can you guys think of other things to teach for a tutor who's focus is Essay Writing?

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(Also, I already know private tutoring is illegal. I took this job being completely aware of that... so please don't comment about this. ^^ )
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Posted 06 April 2009 - 12:00 AM

QUOTE (ginger @ Apr 6 2009, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can I just stress again *how big of a difference a good PS co-teacher makes*? One of my co-teachers is on leave today because her son is going into the military, so the school had a sub come in. Before class, I went to her desk and explained what we were doing--very simple. Parts A and B in the book, and then a worksheet that I'd made on opposites (they were studying adjectives like "boring" and "fun", so it made sense).

She sits in the back the entire time, except for once, when she got up to walk around the room. I even asked her ten minutes into class (while the kids were practicing the dialogue) if she could help translate, and she said she would, but didn't...just sat there. A kid even *threw a book across the room at another kid's face* and she didn't do anything. You'd think that, when you see a foreign teacher trying to reprimand a kid who clearly doesn't know what I'm saying, you'd jump in and help with communication...but she just sat there. I called her up and asked her to explain to him that he had to come on Wednesday from 3:30-5:00, and also to explain to him that even though he said he was striking back at a girl who gave him the finger, unless I saw it, I couldn't do anything...and she nodded, said she would explain it, AND THEN JUST WALKED AWAY. I had to write down his punishment in *Korean*, and I hate to use Korean in the classroom, because the kids then assume that I'm fluent and only try to speak to me in Korean. What is the point of having a freaking co-teacher if she just sits there and doesn't do anything?

And the thing that really got me...at the end of class, she waited for me so we could walk back to the teachers' office together. She was like, "Wow, I'm so tired--that class was really stressful and bad, huh?" SHE DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING!!! HOW WAS IT STRESSFUL FOR *HER*??????????????????????????????????///////


I can't wait for my real co-teacher to come back.

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Ginger - what you do in that situation is quite simple. Get another teacher to write out a translation of the dialogue or whatever else you want translated and get a student to read it. Then the temp CT will really feel like a useless tit. As for the kid who threw the book, take him outside the classroom right away. You don't need to use any Korean to convey that what he did was not on because he knows himself it bloody well wasn't. You could tell him off in Swahili and it would have the same effect (maybe it works better coming from a big, scary white guy - I don't know). Leave him on his knees in the corridor to wonder what might happen if the wrong Korean teacher walks by and, more important than the message it sends to the kids is the message it sends to the new CT - you're in charge and don't put up with crap. She sounds like the type who would rather pretend there's no problem than deal with problems, thereby only creating bigger problems down the road.

Today my middle school schedule got changed and I had to teach my grade 1s without my usual CT. I usually work fairly closely with her with the grade 1s and 2s (she's generally a lot more help than hindrance, as opposed to some of the ones with whom I've worked). I may have been a bit more limited, but it was still quite do-able. Plus, the students have to rely on listening 98% in English and on getting help from the brighter students, instead of relying on a Korean to translate things for them. Having a good teacher would be even better, but in the case of the one you got I'd just as soon do it alone.


QUOTE (uwmissy @ Apr 6 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Need some tips (please ^^).

Well, I've started private tutoring a student. She's a 3rd year middle school student who is trying to get into a "prestigious" high school. And I guess in order to get into that particular high school she will be particpating in a english essay contest type thing. So, as her tutor, I'm responsible in improving her skills in writing essays. And I've been told her main weakness is grammar. So, I went out and got a book on grammar.

So far, I only had one lesson with her. But how it went was I just read with her materials from the book (of course, added some personal comments here and there), and had her do the practice problems. I did this with about ten sections from the first chapter. I also had her practice brainstorming by making outlines/mind maps. Then practicing writing paragraphs. However, not only did I finish teaching before the 2 hours was up... but I admit my lesson doesn't have much content and seems kind of dull.

I was just wondering if any fellow teachers here had any tips. Lessons or activities to add. I'm not creative at all and I don't really know what else I can teach other than grammar and basic essay rules. Can you guys think of other things to teach for a tutor who's focus is Essay Writing?

Please share unsure.gif sweatingbullets.gif


(Also, I already know private tutoring is illegal. I took this job being completely aware of that... so please don't comment about this. ^^ )



It's much easier to improve their organisation much faster than it is their grammar, so start with that. Ready to Write Iby Karen Blanchard and Christine Root is a good book to start with for paragraphs and book II is good for essay writing. There's a good chance she'll have to write a compare-and-contrast essay for her high school examination so get her working on some essays about that. Don't waste a lot of time on articles and prepositions apart from basic rules and phrasal verbs. Aim towards getting her prepared to write a five-paragraph essay with an introductory and concluding paragraph, and topic sentences for each paragraph. Also, don't correct everything to begin with - just focus on some things that are easy to explain and / or common mistakes she makes.


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Posted 06 April 2009 - 12:23 AM

Hi, I have been snooping around this thread for a while now.........Is anyone applying to teach abroad this year? Initially, I wanted to go with somebody but it looks like that person won't be making it, however, I would still like to teach in Korea (just not alone) Is there anyone who lives in the East Coast that would like to apply together to the same district and go through the process together? Pm me if anyone is interested wink.gif

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 01:54 AM

QUOTE (Nucleii @ Apr 1 2009, 05:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So far, my classes had been pretty good. One thing I find hard is going to doctors. Are there any good english speaking doctors in Seoul?

Also, since you guys have been in Korea for long, where would be best to exchange your Kroean won's to USD/CAD?I heard banks and airports are no go, but where else cfan you do it? uis it better to change the money here than back home?

Namdaemun has little counters in the street that will give you a better exchange rate than banks...but I'd recommend doing it for larger sums of money, if not, it's pretty inconvenient just to go to exchange money unless you're nearby.
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Posted 06 April 2009 - 03:41 PM

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Ginger - what you do in that situation is quite simple. Get another teacher to write out a translation of the dialogue or whatever else you want translated and get a student to read it. Then the temp CT will really feel like a useless tit. As for the kid who threw the book, take him outside the classroom right away. You don't need to use any Korean to convey that what he did was not on because he knows himself it bloody well wasn't. You could tell him off in Swahili and it would have the same effect (maybe it works better coming from a big, scary white guy - I don't know). Leave him on his knees in the corridor to wonder what might happen if the wrong Korean teacher walks by and, more important than the message it sends to the kids is the message it sends to the new CT - you're in charge and don't put up with crap. She sounds like the type who would rather pretend there's no problem than deal with problems, thereby only creating bigger problems down the road.

Today my middle school schedule got changed and I had to teach my grade 1s without my usual CT. I usually work fairly closely with her with the grade 1s and 2s (she's generally a lot more help than hindrance, as opposed to some of the ones with whom I've worked). I may have been a bit more limited, but it was still quite do-able. Plus, the students have to rely on listening 98% in English and on getting help from the brighter students, instead of relying on a Korean to translate things for them. Having a good teacher would be even better, but in the case of the one you got I'd just as soon do it alone.



Well, If I'd had any kind of warning that she'd be useless, I would have done something other than rely on her (get translations, etc). As it was, it was in the middle of class and it wasn't like there were any teachers around that I could enlist for help. This class also lacks standout English performers--of the eight classes, they scored the lowest. Their overall English score was a 56%!! The best class had around an 85%. None of us teachers can quite understand how that class in particular is so crappy. In some classes, my other co-teacher can be 10-15 minutes late, so the kids have to listen, and they're fine---very bright, very quick. But in this one, if they don't understand, they automatically zone out and stop caring.

Anyway, I just talked to my co-teacher (she's back!! Yay!!) about yesterday and I said that she didn't provide any translations. She was shocked, because she said she had told her repeatedly a week before to make sure to be active and translate. When I told her that even I had asked her twice to help out and she didn't, she looked pretty angry. When my co-teacher gets angry, she doesn't just sit around (she has the reputation of being kind of a bull when she's upset), so I don't reckon the school will be inviting the sub back any time soon.

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (ginger @ Apr 7 2009, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, If I'd had any kind of warning that she'd be useless, I would have done something other than rely on her (get translations, etc). As it was, it was in the middle of class and it wasn't like there were any teachers around that I could enlist for help. This class also lacks standout English performers--of the eight classes, they scored the lowest. Their overall English score was a 56%!! The best class had around an 85%. None of us teachers can quite understand how that class in particular is so crappy. In some classes, my other co-teacher can be 10-15 minutes late, so the kids have to listen, and they're fine---very bright, very quick. But in this one, if they don't understand, they automatically zone out and stop caring.

Anyway, I just talked to my co-teacher (she's back!! Yay!!) about yesterday and I said that she didn't provide any translations. She was shocked, because she said she had told her repeatedly a week before to make sure to be active and translate. When I told her that even I had asked her twice to help out and she didn't, she looked pretty angry. When my co-teacher gets angry, she doesn't just sit around (she has the reputation of being kind of a bull when she's upset), so I don't reckon the school will be inviting the sub back any time soon.

-ginger


Good to hear that - I had no idea how great my middle school co-teachers were until they went away for six-month training periods and got replaced by rookie temps. When they're around everything just seems to work and when they're not it doesn't; even though one of them's often not even in class when I'm teaching they just seem to get the kids taking public school English seriously. It really sucks to have to come along once a week and state 'I don't care what Miss Park lets you get away with - when I'm teaching you will not ___________________ [insert obnoxious Korean middle school behaviour here]'.

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 10:52 AM

My interview with SMOE is in six hours and I am feeling more and more nervous as it gets closer to the time.

On to my question, what are some of the better provinces/districts in Seoul to teach in? I was told they might ask me if there is a place I would prefer and I want to have some kind of answer.

I want to be around plenty of shopping/restaurants within a good distance...don't know if that helps.

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 04:18 PM

QUOTE (Bamidele @ Apr 15 2009, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My interview with SMOE is in six hours and I am feeling more and more nervous as it gets closer to the time.

On to my question, what are some of the better provinces/districts in Seoul to teach in? I was told they might ask me if there is a place I would prefer and I want to have some kind of answer.

I want to be around plenty of shopping/restaurants within a good distance...don't know if that helps.

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If you're in Seoul, you'll be around shopping and restaurants no matter what district you're in. But also, SMOE *does not* work with Gangnam-gu, the richest district in Seoul, so that one is an automatic no-go. I will say that the districts below the river seem more fun than the ones above, which have more touristy stuff. I live in Nambu district, which isn't anything like Gangnam, but is really fun. Sillim is really close, and that's become a really popular place south of the river. Gangnam is just 20 minutes away by subway. Hongdae is another 20 minutes away. It's also cheaper in my area than in most places north of the river. My friends work in the district on the right of Nambu (Naksongdae area) and enjoy it because there are lots of people their age around (many Seoul National Uni kids live there).

Good luck with your interview!!!

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:48 PM

I have a BS in Speech Pathology and lots of volunteer experience with children, including teaching dance (amongst other things) at a children's camp in Korea from the summer of 2007. However, I stupidly and unfortunately have a wet reckless under my belt. Should I even bother applying?

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 12:19 AM

QUOTE (jb86 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a BS in Speech Pathology and lots of volunteer experience with children, including teaching dance (amongst other things) at a children's camp in Korea from the summer of 2007. However, I stupidly and unfortunately have a wet reckless under my belt. Should I even bother applying?


It's hard to say. I've heard of people still getting accepted even with driving offences; but then I've heard of people from certain states having trouble explaining that speeding tickets that show up on their state checks are not criminal matters. Try talking to your nearest Korean consulate about it, and if you don't like their answer try again with a new representative another day, or try phoning a consulate in another city.

What is and isn't serious enough on checks to keep you out seems very arbitrary.

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Post icon  Posted 18 April 2009 - 11:10 AM

I was wondering if there are anyone here who went with SMOE? I have an interview with them in 2 days and I was wondering if anyone can share their interview experience? What kind of questions did they ask you? And how long did the interview take?

Thank you so much for answering!! ^^

Also has anyone went through Eduvisor / GA Education to get their teaching job in Korea? I saw a posting by them on here http://www.learn4good.com/jobs/language/en.../company/50929/ and it seems like they are a private academy and works in close alliance with elementary schools in the cities. Does anybody know if they are legit?

Thx! ^^


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Posted 26 April 2009 - 01:56 PM

Those of you who only worked in a summer camp, did you have to provide a criminal background check? Because I read that a criminal background check depends on the visa you have to get, and if it's for a short time...like a month for a summer camp, a background check is not necessary. However, I'm not sure if I trust this, so I just wanted to make sure. Thanks

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 04:56 PM

QUOTE (Psyche81 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was wondering if there are anyone here who went with SMOE? I have an interview with them in 2 days and I was wondering if anyone can share their interview experience? What kind of questions did they ask you? And how long did the interview take?

Thank you so much for answering!! ^^

Also has anyone went through Eduvisor / GA Education to get their teaching job in Korea? I saw a posting by them on here http://www.learn4good.com/jobs/language/en.../company/50929/ and it seems like they are a private academy and works in close alliance with elementary schools in the cities. Does anybody know if they are legit?

Thx! ^^



I work with SMOE. My interview was about 30 minutes long. They asked me general teaching questions like:

If you have slow learners in the class, how will you deal with them?

What is the most important thing about teaching ESL for you?

What is your teaching style?

How will you deal with trouble makers in your classes?

Are you comfortable working in an environment where you are the only foreigner?

Er, they also asked me to describe my house, just so they had an idea about how I am with describing things? Kind of weird.

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 08:17 PM

QUOTE (Psyche81 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was wondering if there are anyone here who went with SMOE? I have an interview with them in 2 days and I was wondering if anyone can share their interview experience? What kind of questions did they ask you? And how long did the interview take?

Thank you so much for answering!! ^^

Also has anyone went through Eduvisor / GA Education to get their teaching job in Korea? I saw a posting by them on here http://www.learn4good.com/jobs/language/en.../company/50929/ and it seems like they are a private academy and works in close alliance with elementary schools in the cities. Does anybody know if they are legit?

Thx! ^^

My interview was 11 minutes long. It was ridiculous.

"Why do you take birth control?"
"So you're allergic to zithromax, huh?"
"Why are you a vegetarian?"

The most relevant question was "Would you prefer to teach elementary, middle, or high school?"


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Posted 01 May 2009 - 03:16 AM

hi. my name is Sue and I am 20 years old.

I am interested in teaching English to little kids (pre-school or kindergarten) in Korea someday (:
i am korean actually. i speak korean fluenty. but i can't write it really =( sucks..

i am planning on majoring in early childhood education (early chilhood & family studies) and i plan on being a pre-school/kindergarten teacher at a montessori school.

MY QUESTION IS:
can i teach in a kindergarten classroom in Korea even though I am Korean.. I became a U.S. citizen last year.
what age do you have to be to teach?

Sorry.. i'm just really confused with everything and just need some help =/
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Posted 01 May 2009 - 03:24 PM

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hi. my name is Sue and I am 20 years old.

I am interested in teaching English to little kids (pre-school or kindergarten) in Korea someday (:
i am korean actually. i speak korean fluenty. but i can't write it really =( sucks..

i am planning on majoring in early childhood education (early chilhood & family studies) and i plan on being a pre-school/kindergarten teacher at a montessori school.

MY QUESTION IS:
can i teach in a kindergarten classroom in Korea even though I am Korean.. I became a U.S. citizen last year.
what age do you have to be to teach?

Sorry.. i'm just really confused with everything and just need some help =/



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Posted 02 May 2009 - 07:57 AM

if you guys love teaching children there is an awesome school in the beautiful city of tongyoung.
the school is called ILS, run by a very very nice family.
the kids speak a lot of english and they're very motivated.
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Posted 02 May 2009 - 04:05 PM

Does anyone know anything about Lex Kim English School (http://www.lexkimjob.com/) in Kangnam? Their website says that they offer competitive salaries (I'm assuming nothing over 3 million won) but what appeals to me the most is that they offer a fully furnished studio apartment no more than 3 station stops away from the school. The pictures they have of their housing looks awesome and considering the area, I'd be ecstatic to live and work in such an area..but I'm weary of the legitimacy.
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Posted 02 May 2009 - 10:44 PM

Would I be automatically rejected if I apply to both EPIK and SMOE? The recruiter for SMOE said that.. I already applied to EPIK but worried for some reason I might get rejected.. so should I wait till I get a final answer from EPIK and then apply to SMOE?
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Posted 02 May 2009 - 11:00 PM

QUOTE (shotamerican @ May 3 2009, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if you guys love teaching children there is an awesome school in the beautiful city of tongyoung.
the school is called ILS, run by a very very nice family.
the kids speak a lot of english and they're very motivated.


Hope you like fish. My friend teaches in Tongyoung. Most of his students' fathers are fishermen, dockworkers, shipbuilders, and farmers. He tends to use the word 'monkeys' more often than 'students' to describe the individuals he teaches. But he does seem to like it down there and doesn't want to leave.

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