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#1 User is offline   fatsoko 

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 03:50 PM

Okay. Here's the deal. I'm writing an opinionish article on Hmong for Hmong History Month and I would like some input. If you are Hmong, you do not need to take this poll (but commenting would be fine). It will be titled, "Lost in the Population", an insight on the lack of awareness of the Hmong culture and the unappreciated (and for me, incomprehensible) dislike for the entire community.

Okay. Here we go.

Q: Do you know what Hmong is?
(...unless you are Hmong--please don't answer this question if you are)

a: Yes. (explain)

b: I've heard of Hmong, but not really sure what it is. (Elaborate)

c: Nope. What the heck is it?

Q: (If you answered A for the first question, continue.) What is your opinion about Hmong? (You can be honest. I promise I won't bash on you..no matter what.)

a: I hate them. They are the lowest of all Asians. (PLEASE explain)

b: It's all cool. (Why?)

c: I don't care.

Okay. Final Question.

Q: (If you answered A or B answer this question too.) Do you understand the History of the Hmong people?

a: General Vang Pao (Tell me what you know without looking it up online or asking someone)

b: History? Vietnam War right? (Anything else?)

c: Who cares? (Why don't you care?)

Okay. This should be sufficient. I'd like to explain the details of my article, but for now, answer please!

Thank you very much.

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 03:54 PM

Q: Do you know what Hmong is?

b: I've heard of Hmong, but not really sure what it is. (Elaborate)

Well...uhhh...I've just heard of them..can't really elaborate cause I don't know much about them? o_O

Q:Do you understand the History of the Hmong people?

c: Who cares? (Why don't you care?)

I don't care cause the other 2 options didn't fit me.
Come on "vietnam war"? Is that part of your history?

Clearly I can only choose C.

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 05:21 PM

^ The Vietnam War is actually part of the Hmong people's history.
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 05:22 PM

yah. vietnam war is part of the hmong history.
that is why they are here in the usa today.

i cant take this poll. hint. hint.

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 06:06 PM

Q: Do you know what Hmong is? (...unless you are Hmong--please don't answer this question if you are)
b: I've heard of Hmong, but not really sure what it is. (Elaborate)
how do I elaborate on something I've only heard a bit about?


Q: (If you answered A for the first question, continue.) What is your opinion about Hmong? (You can be honest. I promise I won't bash on you..no matter what.)

a: I hate them. They are the lowest of all Asians. (PLEASE explain)

b: It's all cool. (Why?)

c: I don't care.

Okay. Final Question.


Q: (If you answered A or B answer this question too.) Do you understand the History of the Hmong people?
d: I'm not a fan of history in general, but "Who cares" sounds really mean
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE(Tetra @ Apr 4 2007, 06:54 PM) View Post
I don't care cause the other 2 options didn't fit me.
Come on "vietnam war"? Is that part of your history?

Clearly I can only choose C.


this is sad we Hmong people ALWAYS get overlooked in the Vietnam War...seriously first we get left behind to die by the hands of the enemies, then we come here to America "Land of the Free" and we get prosecuted...hey I love my own Hmong people but I feel that we're like the unknown or Atlantis race of the Asians...no home no place but in our hearts...you really have to give us credit for being a race of people coming from the mountains and forests becoming who we are today, but yet we have a LONG ways to go
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 08:34 PM

Yes. ^ I agree with Xiongboi_J!
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 08:37 PM

QUOTE(Xiongboi_J @ Apr 4 2007, 10:15 PM) View Post
this is sad we Hmong people ALWAYS get overlooked in the Vietnam War...seriously first we get left behind to die by the hands of the enemies, then we come here to America "Land of the Free" and we get prosecuted...hey I love my own Hmong people but I feel that we're like the unknown or Atlantis race of the Asians...no home no place but in our hearts...you really have to give us credit for being a race of people coming from the mountains and forests becoming who we are today, but yet we have a LONG ways to go


Maybe it's some of the customs that gives people a bad impression.
The first thing that introduced me to hmong culture was the whole forced-marriage thing + stories.

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Unpleasant.

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 09:51 PM

I am Hmong.

My opinions of Hmong people? Can't really say, I can't give the WHOLE population of Hmong people an opinion.

I know a good amount of Hmong history...dating back to the wars against the Han.
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 10:10 PM

Q1) A-Yes. School and some I know.
Q2) C(ish)-Some are cool and some are stereo-typical AND some just prove those stereo-types right.....
Q3) B(ish)-Yes. Its difficult....so yeah...meh.
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 10:15 PM

QUOTE(Tetra @ Apr 4 2007, 11:37 PM) View Post
Maybe it's some of the customs that gives people a bad impression.
The first thing that introduced me to hmong culture was the whole forced-marriage thing + stories.

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Unpleasant.


I don't blame ya about the stories and forced marriage thing...but I mean you can look at any race and say OH DANG THAT'S MESSED UP HOW THEY DO THAT...(sorry to topic starter for commenting so much sweatingbullets.gif ) I'd really like to hear these stories you have heard though...PM em to me if you have the time smile.gif
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Post icon  Posted 05 April 2007 - 03:18 PM

QUOTE(Tetra @ Apr 5 2007, 12:37 AM) View Post
Maybe it's some of the customs that gives people a bad impression.
The first thing that introduced me to hmong culture was the whole forced-marriage thing + stories.

...

Unpleasant.


The whole forced-marriage thing wasn't invented by Hmong people. Even people hundreds of years ago did the same thing. It may be wrong, but before you think that something is unpleasant, maybe you should be more informed of the culture first. And by the way, just because someone happened to post a thread about how horrible their marriage life is at age 15, it doesn't mean that such marriage customs goes to everyone in the Hmong community. It's just really that *&*(^%$ person's own fault for taking the wrong and stupid step. This is like judging a book by its cover. dry.gif



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Posted 05 April 2007 - 11:18 PM

Q1. b
i heard brenda song is and some people on soompi are hmong ^^

Q2. uhh .. between B and C. dont really know where the place is located and never heard of it before i went on soompi >.< doesnt really affect me> i dont have any hmong friends so i dont really know about them. . (forced marriage? topic on soompi. . >.<)

for Q3. i dont know anything about their history. i basically skipped the whole ASIA'S history b/c i switched counties (different curriculum) uhm i think its in asia..

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Posted 06 April 2007 - 03:06 PM

By the way I'm Korean.

Q: Do you know what Hmong is? (...unless you are Hmong--please don't answer this question if you are)

a: Yes. They are an ethnic group from the mountains of Laos whom the CIA contacted to help run a guerilla war against the communist regime of Laos during the Vietnam War. To help overthrow a government that was friendly towards North Vietnam

Q: (If you answered A for the first question, continue.) What is your opinion about Hmong? (You can be honest. I promise I won't bash on you..no matter what.)

Ummm. I live in Minnesota. (Minnesota having a huge number of Hmongs) I have Hmong friends, and they're like any other race. There are smart Hmongs, dumb Hmongs, nice Hmongs, mean Hmongs etc. I mean they're no different from any other race. I'm cool with them, no more or less than I am with any other race. But it seems true that they're all short.

Okay. Final Question.

Q: (If you answered A or B answer this question too.) Do you understand the History of the Hmong people?

a: General Vang Pao (Tell me what you know without looking it up online or asking someone)
The dude that led the guerilla war during Vietnam. He was the only guy more or less that America helped evacuate...

b: History? Vietnam War right? (Anything else?)
That they did not come from Mesoptoamia or anywhere else. They are Asian, not from Siberia etc. And yes I've already explained the Vietnam thing tongue.gif
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Posted 06 April 2007 - 05:59 PM

Q: Do you know what Hmong is? (...unless you are Hmong--please don't answer this question if you are)

a: Yes. (explain)
Hmong people are like Mien people who live in the mountains

Q: (If you answered A for the first question, continue.) What is your opinion about Hmong? (You can be honest. I promise I won't bash on you..no matter what.)

My opinion is that they are underrepresented like mien people

Okay. Final Question.

Q: (If you answered A or B answer this question too.) Do you understand the History of the Hmong people?

I don't know much about them
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Posted 06 April 2007 - 09:32 PM

QUOTE(DaAzNkIgGa627 @ Apr 6 2007, 06:06 PM) View Post
But it seems true that they're all short.


blink.gif I'm Hmong and I'm standing at 6'1 haha =P but it's good to know that you have knowledge about us =D
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Posted 06 April 2007 - 09:41 PM

XD. 6'1. That's huge man. Well I'm 5'8 and all my Hmong friends are no higher that 5'4. I dunno, it seems all the Asians at our school are short. I think I might just be the tallest one 0_o. Off topic though, but yeah.

Lol, yeah the Hmong are pretty interesting though. It's really sad that Americans as a whole don't know/appreciate what the Hmongs did during Vietnam to help American troops. It's sad how the American government betrayed the Hmong by deporting some Hmong were deported from refuge camps in Thailand back to Laos. The American government can't thank it's troops well. (Walter Reed, Hmong etc.)

Oh yeah and I forgot to add this. In the 1910's ish, I remember the Hmong fought against the French. And the French killed the Hmong leader and stopped the revolt more or less. I don't know much about that though.
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Posted 07 April 2007 - 08:46 AM

great poll. i think in a society where asians are considered a monolithic group (which isn't true), we need to learn about each group.

1) Yes, it is group of people inhabiting southeast asia. however, they're kinda disperesed.

2) I'd pick B, but in reality, its a group of people I don't really think about.

3) c)
Now that I think about it, it be interesting to learn about them

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Posted 07 April 2007 - 07:47 PM

QUOTE(DaAzNkIgGa627 @ Apr 6 2007, 06:06 PM) View Post
Q: (If you answered A for the first question, continue.) What is your opinion about Hmong? (You can be honest. I promise I won't bash on you..no matter what.)

Ummm. I live in Minnesota. (Minnesota having a huge number of Hmongs) I have Hmong friends, and they're like any other race. There are smart Hmongs, dumb Hmongs, nice Hmongs, mean Hmongs etc. I mean they're no different from any other race. I'm cool with them, no more or less than I am with any other race. But it seems true that they're all short.


I agree with what you said. That is so true, every single race, no matter what race a person is from, it is really about what kind person and character the individual is. We're all human beings, there are the bad and good people (no matter where they are orginally from).

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Posted 07 April 2007 - 08:17 PM

No body knows about hmong involving in the Vietnam War cuz' it's called the "Secret War" for the part of bringing the Hmong people into battle...something like that...

And obviously...some people don't bother to care about the history of Hmong...why?

Why bother when the country from where the Hmong people inhabited is not sufficiently stated although I know it's somewhere from China. And the history of Hmong is so extinctive that all the information about them is clearly from people's opinion. Some Hmong children don't even know their holy background not to mention the fact that some completely abandoned their culture and become so white--americans. In fact, some kiddo don't even know what the secret war is and who the heck is Vang Pao! It's not those of others who are not interested. Even 'some' (not all) hmong people are so discriminative of their own nationality. So...the reality history dates back only to when the people fled from Laos where the cruelity is so partly what is always mentioned.

---anyway..this is clearly from my perspective so ummm...if it sound a little off the max, don't feel offended.

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