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#551 User is offline   Millou 

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 01:57 AM

ok thanks for the explenation J79.

But i have another question (it's my first time using a laptop). It's about the battery, what's the best way to preserve it? Some people it's better not to charge it when using the MBP, but others say it's ok to charge the battery while using the laptop.
And can someone explain what Apple means with the cycle thing, about charging battery's...? I don't really understand what they are saying...When does a new cycle begins? When i charge the battery till 100%?
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#552 User is offline   j79 

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 10:13 AM

QUOTE (Millou @ Apr 26 2008, 03:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok thanks for the explenation J79.

But i have another question (it's my first time using a laptop). It's about the battery, what's the best way to preserve it? Some people it's better not to charge it when using the MBP, but others say it's ok to charge the battery while using the laptop.
And can someone explain what Apple means with the cycle thing, about charging battery's...? I don't really understand what they are saying...When does a new cycle begins? When i charge the battery till 100%?


In the past, laptop batteries used NiMH technology. With these, you had to fully charge and then fully drain the battery to extend the life. If you charged the battery, and then recharged the battery at half drain, the battery could develop a "memory" issue. This was actually a hardening of the material inside the battery (the battery would crystalize) - Almost all new batteries use Lithium Ion (or Li-ion) which does not suffer the NiMH memory issue (no hardened crystals.) Inside a Li-ion battery is a microchip that basically tells the computer how many times the battery has been charged, the remaining life of the battery, etc.

There are some people who will say you shouldn't charge your battery if it's full - but, this stems from the days of NiMH - it's okay to charge your battery while using your laptop with Li-Ion batteries.

However, with Li-Ion batteries, you do want to re-calibrate your battery at least once a month. While it doesn't suffer from the NiMH-type "memory" issue, the microchip inside can become "confused" and start reporting inaccurate numbers to your laptop. Re-calibrating is easy, and Apple has a page explaining here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?pa.../en/mh2339.html

One thing, though: Li-Ion batteries begin degrading the moment they're manufactured. So, if you bought a laptop that was sitting on a shelf for a year (doing nothing), there's a good chance it's lost anywhere from 4 - 15% of it's charge (depending on battery charge and temperature)

Even worse! The hotter it gets, the quicker your battery will die. So, you can probably imagine the effect laptops have on Li-Ion batteries tongue.gif Especially after a year of using it in a MBP! Haha...
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#553 User is offline   `tsochi_foo 

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 04:00 PM

When I was using the video in Photo Booth with Macbook, it said it was recording and when I stopped only a few seconds came out.

Like it would say 4:30:24 and then when I clicked the button it would say 9 seconds.

Is there something wrong with my photo booth or is that just how it is?

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#554 User is offline   dorkiee__ness 

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 11:15 PM

i am a mac user! since july 07 =)

hmm..lets see i bought the Middle mac book. you know there's one with no dvd writer and then there's the middle one which is white and has a dvd writer and then there's the black one. i updated to leopard a while back ago too.
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#555 User is offline   j79 

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 11:39 PM

QUOTE (`tsochi_foo @ Apr 26 2008, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When I was using the video in Photo Booth with Macbook, it said it was recording and when I stopped only a few seconds came out.

Like it would say 4:30:24 and then when I clicked the button it would say 9 seconds.

Is there something wrong with my photo booth or is that just how it is?


I didn't know you could record video in Photo Booth???
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#556 User is offline   `tsochi_foo 

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 04:36 PM

Yeah it does. Its the same quality as the camera..its good just that tiny time issue.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 01:26 AM

hehe wow this is like my first time in the tech section..
i have a macbook in white!!
also, i posted one of the problems that im having with my macbook in the troubleshooting section..
would it have been better if i posted it here? >_<
well here is the link for it.. it would be great if someone could help me out!

http://www.soompi.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=214972
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 10:27 AM

I'm currently working with an iBook G4 (v. 10.4.11)
with 1.33 GHz PowerPC G4, 768 MB DDR SDRAM, 80GB HDD... etc.
but next year summer, I will have a macbook!T_T hopefully,
they come out with a new and improved macbook by then.^^
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 11:56 AM

Oh my God I want the new iMac so bad... The education discount saves me $200 which is awesome...

By the way, is it pointless having both airport extreme and time machine? I don't know if I should just get time machine or get airport extreme and an external hard drive from elsewhere. I haven't heard good things about time machine ._.
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 01:45 PM

My PowerBook died recently. The hard drive just crashed and whoosh, everything was gone. Luckily, sometime during the fall, I backed up many of my important files. Now, I may not be updated with my music, but the programs that I've used for years now are backed up, as well as the majority of my pictures. I would have been greatly depressed if I had lost my pictures. Oh so precious pictures. As I shuffled through my old files on my "backup hard drive" (also known as my old 3G 30GB iPod), I couldn't help but to mutter to myself, "Oh you are so smart. So, so smart. SO, so smart." Hah!

So I jumped the gun and purchased a new MacBook. I love it thus far. Of course, the two greatest challenges for me right now is: A. Trying to adapt to the new operating system. I went from 10.3 (What is that, Panther?) to 10.5. According to some Mac enthusiasts, the jump is monumental. I don't disagree. B. Trying to figure out how to change the fricken time zone. For the past hour, I've been keeping track of what time it is in pacific time zone. That's great for when/if I move there, but currently, it is a pain to keep thinking, "Oh wait, it is only 2. Whew~"

Mac OS X 10.5
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I'm glad that with the student discount, purchasing the extra 2 GB of RAM was actually worth it. It feels nice that my computer just flies by now whereas merely two weeks ago, I would have to smack my forehead in disappointment that merely turning my laptop on is a chore.
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 06:54 PM

QUOTE (MINJI.v @ Apr 30 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh my God I want the new iMac so bad... The education discount saves me $200 which is awesome...

By the way, is it pointless having both airport extreme and time machine? I don't know if I should just get time machine or get airport extreme and an external hard drive from elsewhere. I haven't heard good things about time machine ._.


Well most of the time, you want an External Harddrive if you are gonna use Time Machine anyways.
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:56 PM

Why would I get an external hard drive AND a time machine? A time machine is an external hard drive O_O
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (MINJI.v @ Apr 30 2008, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why would I get an external hard drive AND a time machine? A time machine is an external hard drive O_O


Actually, Time Machine refers to the software in OS X that does the back up. Apple sells "Time Capsule", which is a wireless router with either 500GB or 1TB HDD built in that allows you to sync/backup wirelessly. If you don't need the wireless router, Time Capsule isn't the right product.
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 08:42 PM

white macbook (:
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80GB HDD, replacing it soon w/ a 120GB biggrin.gif
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i'm trying to sell it and buy a new one xD
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 09:01 PM

QUOTE (Trungy @ Apr 30 2008, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I jumped the gun and purchased a new MacBook. I love it thus far. Of course, the two greatest challenges for me right now is: A. Trying to adapt to the new operating system. I went from 10.3 (What is that, Panther?) to 10.5. According to some Mac enthusiasts, the jump is monumental. I don't disagree. B. Trying to figure out how to change the fricken time zone. For the past hour, I've been keeping track of what time it is in pacific time zone. That's great for when/if I move there, but currently, it is a pain to keep thinking, "Oh wait, it is only 2. Whew~"


I could imagine!! After I upgraded from 10.3 to 10.4, I helped a friend out with her iBook that was running 10.3. It was foreign to me! Haha. I can't even imagine going back to 10.3 now....

You may have figured this out, but to change the Time Zone, go to System Preferences, click Date & Time, choose Time Zone, and click roughly the location of where you want to set the Time Zone for. biggrin.gif
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 07:49 AM

QUOTE (j79 @ Apr 30 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, Time Machine refers to the software in OS X that does the back up. Apple sells "Time Capsule", which is a wireless router with either 500GB or 1TB HDD built in that allows you to sync/backup wirelessly. If you don't need the wireless router, Time Capsule isn't the right product.

Oh you're right! blush.gif I mix those two up all the time T^T Sorry darkmafiaguy blush.gif
Anyway so should I get time capsule AND airport extreme? Or airport extreme and a different external HDD? +_+
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 08:07 AM

QUOTE (MINJI.v @ May 1 2008, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh you're right! blush.gif I mix those two up all the time T^T Sorry darkmafiaguy blush.gif
Anyway so should I get time capsule AND airport extreme? Or airport extreme and a different external HDD? +_+


Time Capsule is basically an Airport Extreme with a Hard Drive inside.

What I did was, hooked up an External HD to my Airport Extreme and voilia! A Time Capsule is born! lol smile.gif
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 09:15 AM

QUOTE (Xarthan @ May 1 2008, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Time Capsule is basically an Airport Extreme with a Hard Drive inside.

What I did was, hooked up an External HD to my Airport Extreme and voilia! A Time Capsule is born! lol smile.gif

Yeah I was thinking about doing that because I heard Time Capsule isn't that good.
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 11:54 AM

QUOTE (MINJI.v @ May 1 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I was thinking about doing that because I heard Time Capsule isn't that good.


why isn't it good?
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (j79 @ May 1 2008, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I could imagine!! After I upgraded from 10.3 to 10.4, I helped a friend out with her iBook that was running 10.3. It was foreign to me! Haha. I can't even imagine going back to 10.3 now....

You may have figured this out, but to change the Time Zone, go to System Preferences, click Date & Time, choose Time Zone, and click roughly the location of where you want to set the Time Zone for. biggrin.gif


Ah, yes, I figured it out last night. Thanks anyhow.

Although there are a lot of new features, it isn't a drastic difference between operating systems.
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