[HK Tequila]

BoA is probably the best female dancer your going to get in Asia. I actually think she could probably dance over most of the people anywhere in the world.

Even though when I watch Ciara I think she is a total wannabe of Aaliyah, however I do have to give her credit that she is pretty good dancer.

[*.:StarryEyeSurprise:.*]

OMG MIN IS AMAZING O__O
I mean WOW

[jho]

I've seen 19301 videos of Ciara and Beyonce, and honestly.. They don't impress me at all.
I'm not Korean, but I think that Korean celebs can outdance American celebs ANY DAY.

[KuYA II]

I think Stephanie from tszx is good
She's got skills in ballet and everything
and she could challenge those girls cuz she speaks really good english too

Cheon Mu Stephanie from The Grace

agree totally with stephanie,
but i'm not a fan of boa's dance moves.

i agree...stephanie is a great dancer in ballet that is...heres a link to stephanie's ballet performance:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=whAvMGOy4XM

pretty much impressed me =)

[EverCool]

why exactly did you make this thread.
When we give you good female dancers you just hate on them? your not open-minded and you give no reason why you think they arn't good dancers.

If you think U;nee doesn't dance with energy then you need glasses.

iYou say that a lot of american dancers dance with high heels, please name them... you say things and yet you give no proof.

Your completely closed minded to asian dancers and you won't give them a chance, no matter how good they are you still won't like them. I don't even understand why you made this thread, OBVIOUSLY you don't like asian dancers....GET OVER IT!

I live in America and I used to watch all the performances and music videos, it's all so boring now! Ciara's dancing is all the same! every performance she does the same moves. I don't understand why you put her on such a high pedestal, we (americans) are over the CIARA PHASE...come on now...

It's so sad how hypocritical you are. You say I'm ignorant and yet you won't give asian dancers the time of day. Your completely biased against asian singers. You think Aaliyah is a better dancer than U;Nee, don't make me laugh! Aaliyah danced like every other person in AMERICA no ORIGINALITY no different. U;Nee is very original her ability to use her flexibility and double jointedness really puts her HIGH on the *good dancer* list.

I was the one who started this thread first of all secondly, where exactly do you live in america to say everyone is over Ciara? When did that happen?

BoA is probably the best female dancer your going to get in Asia. I actually think she could probably dance over most of the people anywhere in the world.

Even though when I watch Ciara I think she is a total wannabe of Aaliyah, however I do have to give her credit that she is pretty good dancer.

I seriously hate when people say that. what proof do you have that she is a wannabe Aaliyah? Except for the fact that she is black, wears long hair, and is a great dancer? (i personally don't think aaliyah could dance a lick but if people want to make like she did because she died then i'll go long with it)

I agree with the Janet thing. Janet is a *HAS-Been* I don't know what generation some people are living in, but in this generation, Janet is nothing. There's too many singers that not only can dance as good as her, but better. I do thin Ciara can dance better than Janet, but I don't think Ciara is the best dancer.

She dances exactly how her background dancers dance. I saw the *Goodies* video and She didn't stnad out compared to her background dancers. Ciara isn't that great anymore at all, We are all over her. She is one of those one hit wonder. Her 1st album excellent, second one um..boing the exact same as first.

I don't think American female dancers are good. No one is original here in america, they all copy eachother, no one tries to be daring, if someone does something new, 20 thousand more people can do it.

I do believe asians can dance better. Asia is more going out and getting new dance moves. Just like Shim MIna, I think she is an excellent dancer, because unlike most americna dancers, she can bellydance.

OH AND LETS KEEP IN MIND! I rarely EVER SEE ANY AMERICAN FEMALE ARTIST dance with HIGH HEELS! Put some 5 inch heels on Ciara and lets see if she can still dance.

Asian artists like U;Nee, Mina, Bin have all mastered dancing in heels. They can do what Ciara does, but BETTA!

OH and for "LucasBunny" Janet doesn't have the best body *LAUGHS OUT LOUD* umm wasn't like a couple of months ago she was OBESE?!? hahah and now she still is thick.

I have nothing to say to you because it would be a waste of breath.

I've seen 19301 videos of Ciara and Beyonce, and honestly.. They don't impress me at all.
I'm not Korean, but I think that Korean celebs can outdance American celebs ANY DAY.

Thats exactly what I'm talking about name a korean female dancer who could. If you can't name anybody then hush up.










I'm starting to get a headache.

[Odyism]

It's so sad how hypocritical you are. You say I'm ignorant and yet you won't give asian dancers the time of day. Your completely biased against asian singers. You think Aaliyah is a better dancer than U;Nee, don't make me laugh! Aaliyah danced like every other person in AMERICA no ORIGINALITY no different. U;Nee is very original her ability to use her flexibility and double jointedness really puts her HIGH on the *good dancer* list.

LMAO. I'm not even the one who made this thread.

But yes the artists you named are competent dancers.
I like them, but they're so insignificant, none of them have ever completely blown me away.
But when you say dancers like Min and U;Nee are better than any American female dancers, And that "No one is original here in america, they all copy eachother, no one tries to be daring, if someone does something new, 20 thousand more people can do it." I just can't take you seriously.
Do you not understand how American female singers/dancers ie. Janet Jackson and Tina Turner revolutionized the way we think of a female performer. When you see the influences of all these different artists across the board, many times America is the link between all of them. Notice how many Korean females are doing cover performances of AMERICAN songs with the AMERICAN choreographer.

U;Nee dances with energy, but Ciara puts so much more passion and energy in her performances.

Every female that was named in this thread has danced in high heels (Beyonce, Janet Jackson, Ciara, Aaliyah, etc.). Dancing in high heels doesn't make you a better dancer though, it's impressive but also so meaningless. It just looks cool :/

Guess what?
I live in America, I'ved watched the music videos, the live performances, everything.
I seriously think you just have yellow fever.
I can easily says artists like U;nee, Bin, Min, etc. dance the same ALL the time. They basically dance like Female american pop singers (mainly from a few years ago). Also I'm not putting Ciara on a pedestal, she's an underwhelming performer since her voice isn't too good. But in comparison to your favorite dancers, she is on a pedestal.
And please don't try to pull the "we americans are over Ciara". I'm American, my friends are american, plenty of people in America still listen to Ciara. So just because you are over Ciara, doesn't mean America is. So please don't try to speak for the rest of the population.

I'm not hypocritical at all. I give Asian music the time of day, why would I be on soompi otherwise? o___o;
You're just so blind T__T;
So because U;Nee is double jointed and flexible she is one of the best dancers?
Please.
I know people who dancer better than U;nee. I don't see your fascination with her, she's mediocre at best :/
I've seen all Aaliyah has had to offer, and she wasn't the best dancer of all time but she was definitely better than U;nee....she actually had passion while she danced (while maintaing a smooth, flowy, mysterious, vibe_)

[LucasBunny]

LMAO. I'm not even the one who made this thread.

But yes the artists you named are competent dancers.
I like them, but they're so insignificant, none of them have ever completely blown me away.
But when you say dancers like Min and U;Nee are better than any American female dancers, And that "No one is original here in america, they all copy eachother, no one tries to be daring, if someone does something new, 20 thousand more people can do it." I just can't take you seriously.
Do you not understand how American female singers/dancers ie. Janet Jackson and Tina Turner revolutionized the way we think of a female performer. When you see the influences of all these different artists across the board, many times America is the link between all of them. Notice how many Korean females are doing cover performances of AMERICAN songs with the AMERICAN choreographer.

U;Nee dances with energy, but Ciara puts so much more passion and energy in her performances.

Every female that was named in this thread has danced in high heels (Beyonce, Janet Jackson, Ciara, Aaliyah, etc.). Dancing in high heels doesn't make you a better dancer though, it's impressive but also so meaningless. It just looks cool :/

Guess what?
I live in America, I'ved watched the music videos, the live performances, everything.
I seriously think you just have yellow fever.
I can easily says artists like U;nee, Bin, Min, etc. dance the same ALL the time. They basically dance like Female american pop singers (mainly from a few years ago). Also I'm not putting Ciara on a pedestal, she's an underwhelming performer since her voice isn't too good. But in comparison to your favorite dancers, she is on a pedestal.
And please don't try to pull the "we americans are over Ciara". I'm American, my friends are american, plenty of people in America still listen to Ciara. So just because you are over Ciara, doesn't mean America is. So please don't try to speak for the rest of the population.

I'm not hypocritical at all. I give Asian music the time of day, why would I be on soompi otherwise? o___o;
You're just so blind T__T;
So because U;Nee is double jointed and flexible she is one of the best dancers?
Please.
I know people who dancer better than U;nee. I don't see your fascination with her, she's mediocre at best :/
I've seen all Aaliyah has had to offer, and she wasn't the best dancer of all time but she was definitely better than U;nee....she actually had passion while she danced (while maintaing a smooth, flowy, mysterious, vibe_)

Everything I was going to say

I think that there are k-pop males that can outdance some american
males,....but as for females I've yet to see one.

[L.Li-style]

to be honest...ive never seen BoA freestyle...now uv pointed it out..and HOLY CRAPP~!! U;Nee is such a good dancer!! I thought Koda Kumi was too...but just not anything...TOO sexy....*cough*

[UNee4Life]

I've seen all Aaliyah has had to offer, and she wasn't the best dancer of all time but she was definitely better than U;nee....she actually had passion while she danced (while maintaing a smooth, flowy, mysterious, vibe_)

have you seen U;Nee dance? Everything you said Aaliyah had, is the exact what U;Nee had except U;Nee is versitle and Aaliyah only did HIP HOP! I do think Aaliyah can dance just as good as her backup dancer, there is nothign that seperated her from her backup dancers. U;Nee on the other hand threw her own little spin in with all her dances. Even if it was choreographed she still threw in her own hand movements and her signature moves. Well your not a fan of U;Nee's dancing so I wouldn't expect oyu to know that, but since she is my favorite singer I've noticed and a lot of other soompiers noticed her unique above average dance style.

The only reason why you say american dancers are better than U;Nee, Mina and other asian dancers is because asian dancers lack passion and energy. Come on now, you obviously haven't seen them dance. They dance from their HEAD TO THEIR TOE! with facial expressions and their own unique style. Ciara doesn't express anything with her face, nor does Aaliyah. I just watched *Goodies* and *We Need a Resolution* and saw no facial expressions at all. Aaliyah danced with no energy. Ciara was not smooth and flowy. They knew their choreography very well and that's about it.

If you can't see how good asian dancers are by now, then you never will no matter how good they are.

Every female that was named in this thread has danced in high heels (Beyonce, Janet Jackson, Ciara, Aaliyah, etc.). Dancing in high heels doesn't make you a better dancer though, it's impressive but also so meaningless. It just looks cool :/

Please show me a link where Ciara danced with heels? How about Janet? or Aaliyah? I haven't seen one clip of them dancing with heels. It's very impressive and it does show how good a dancer is. It takes a lot of balance for them to do it with heels. I hear women complain all the time how they cna't imagine running in shoes and yet asian dancers dance jup around and practically do flips with high heels on.

And please don't try to pull the "we americans are over Ciara". I'm American, my friends are american, plenty of people in America still listen to Ciara. So just because you are over Ciara, doesn't mean America is. So please don't try to speak for the rest of the population.

HAHHAHAHAHA *throws up in my mouth* you guys are OUTDATED! hhaa just because you guys like Ciara still doesn't mean she is still cool. Hahah many people I talk to say how she is very boring now, ehr songs are all the same, her dancing is all the same, her voice isn't good. She is going to be a one-hit wonder. Well haha she already is one. Of course I'm not saying that you should stop liking her, but really putting her above U;Nee is just a JOKE! I'm sure if korea would allow it, U;nee would have been Popping her booty all up over her music videos and performances too. She already can do the splits and everything else Ciara does it's just that they have to limit their SEXY creativeness do to koren conservatives.

So because U;Nee is double jointed and flexible she is one of the best dancers?
Please.
I know people who dancer better than U;nee. I don't see your fascination with her, she's mediocre at best :/

You say U;Nee is mediocre but you don't say why. I said why I think Ciara is lame now, but you can't explain why U;nee is just mediocre. She break dances, pop, hip hops, all over the place and in heels. She works not only her body but her HAIR! Ciara doesn't use her hair at all, Hair is a very valuable part for a woman to use during dancing esspecially when trying to get attention. U;Nee was actually the first korean felame dancer to break the stereotype that women can only dance cute. She busted out with breakdancing, sexyness and flawlessness and everyone was impressed. Anyone who sees U;Nee dances is AMAZED she could just stand there and and bop her head and it'll be so amazing. U;Nee has energy and passion in all her dances. She is expressing herself through her dancing, it's pretty amazing.

to be honest...ive never seen BoA freestyle...now uv pointed it out..and HOLY CRAPP~!! U;Nee is such a good dancer!! I thought Koda Kumi was too...but just not anything...TOO sexy....*cough*

Ha I'm glad you see the light! yeah Koda Kumi is an excellent dancer too. She perfects the SEXY dance haha her song *Juicy* had some of the craziest sexy dance ever haha.

[LucasBunny]

Hahah many people I talk to say how she is very boring now, ehr songs are all the same, her dancing is all the same, her voice isn't good. She is going to be a one-hit wonder. Well haha she already is one. .

sorry I just had to say this

but ummmm Ciara is not a one hit wonder lol

she has 2 albums and many hits

Like a Boy
Promise
Get Up (featuring Chamillionaire)
Goodies
1,2 step
Oh


all on the billboard charts

so she's not a 1 hit wonder

how did Ciara's hits get involved anyway??

I thought this was about dancing
If u wanna discuss Ciara's record sales and stuff she has her own thread, just don't go bashing her in her own thread.
http://www.soompi.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=93625

this thread just got so ridiculous

[EverCool]

have you seen U;Nee dance? Everything you said Aaliyah had, is the exact what U;Nee had except U;Nee is versitle and Aaliyah only did HIP HOP! I do think Aaliyah can dance just as good as her backup dancer, there is nothign that seperated her from her backup dancers. U;Nee on the other hand threw her own little spin in with all her dances. Even if it was choreographed she still threw in her own hand movements and her signature moves. Well your not a fan of U;Nee's dancing so I wouldn't expect oyu to know that, but since she is my favorite singer I've noticed and a lot of other soompiers noticed her unique above average dance style.

The only reason why you say american dancers are better than U;Nee, Mina and other asian dancers is because asian dancers lack passion and energy. Come on now, you obviously haven't seen them dance. They dance from their HEAD TO THEIR TOE! with facial expressions and their own unique style. Ciara doesn't express anything with her face, nor does Aaliyah. I just watched *Goodies* and *We Need a Resolution* and saw no facial expressions at all. Aaliyah danced with no energy. Ciara was not smooth and flowy. They knew their choreography very well and that's about it.

If you can't see how good asian dancers are by now, then you never will no matter how good they are.
Please show me a link where Ciara danced with heels? How about Janet? or Aaliyah? I haven't seen one clip of them dancing with heels. It's very impressive and it does show how good a dancer is. It takes a lot of balance for them to do it with heels. I hear women complain all the time how they cna't imagine running in shoes and yet asian dancers dance jup around and practically do flips with high heels on.
HAHHAHAHAHA *throws up in my mouth* you guys are OUTDATED! hhaa just because you guys like Ciara still doesn't mean she is still cool. Hahah many people I talk to say how she is very boring now, ehr songs are all the same, her dancing is all the same, her voice isn't good. She is going to be a one-hit wonder. Well haha she already is one. Of course I'm not saying that you should stop liking her, but really putting her above U;Nee is just a JOKE! I'm sure if korea would allow it, U;nee would have been Popping her booty all up over her music videos and performances too. She already can do the splits and everything else Ciara does it's just that they have to limit their SEXY creativeness do to koren conservatives.
You say U;Nee is mediocre but you don't say why. I said why I think Ciara is lame now, but you can't explain why U;nee is just mediocre. She break dances, pop, hip hops, all over the place and in heels. She works not only her body but her HAIR! Ciara doesn't use her hair at all, Hair is a very valuable part for a woman to use during dancing esspecially when trying to get attention. U;Nee was actually the first korean felame dancer to break the stereotype that women can only dance cute. She busted out with breakdancing, sexyness and flawlessness and everyone was impressed. Anyone who sees U;Nee dances is AMAZED she could just stand there and and bop her head and it'll be so amazing. U;Nee has energy and passion in all her dances. She is expressing herself through her dancing, it's pretty amazing.
Ha I'm glad you see the light! yeah Koda Kumi is an excellent dancer too. She perfects the SEXY dance haha her song *Juicy* had some of the craziest sexy dance ever haha.

In order to be a one hit wonder you gotta have one hit!!! So shut up about her being a one hit wonder you don't even know what it means


BTW to prove this stupid point to you about dancing in heels make you a great dancer here is Ciara's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDgARlKDjo

And Beyonce live in heels its a known fact that she does cartwheels in heels how true this is i don't know but its sure is impressive!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3kXVHjCBlQ

There not any dancing really but she is jumping really high in heels and its sure is impressive..

Might I note that her vocals was extremely good in this perforance? Jumping Up and Down with Heels? She is a gOD!!!!!

[UNee4Life]

In order to be a one hit wonder you gotta have one hit!!! So shut up about her being a one hit wonder you don't even know what it means
BTW to prove this stupid point to you about dancing in heels make you a great dancer here is Ciara's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDgARlKDjo

And Beyonce live in heels its a known fact that she does cartwheels in heels how true this is i don't know but its sure is impressive!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3kXVHjCBlQ

There not any dancing really but she is jumping really high in heels and its sure is impressive..

Might I note that her vocals was extremely good in this perforance? Jumping Up and Down with Heels? She is a GOD.

I ment that Ciara is just a person that was really big for a couple of seconds but is dying down, fast.

Didd you see the link of Ciara that you posted for me to watch? She was barely dancing haha you think thta proves how EXCELLENT and how she dances so well in heels? hm.... interesting. This is the type of dancing I'm talking about... U;NEE!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcB4KUCm-Tw

Ciara was just walking around, doing barely any dance moves...BARELY!

I do like the Beyonce one, it is pretty impressive that she is doing so much with heels on, but I don't think Beyonce can dance so even if she was dancing evey dance with heels on I wouldn't be impressed because Beyonce is just a butt shaker.

And I was completely wrong about no maericans dancing in heels. Wow Christina Aguilera in her *Dirrty* style WOAH very impressive, she has some MAD SKILL up on her. Ciara, Beyonce, Janet, and others need to learn from her.

[Odyism]

I have yellow fever, and can't see past my own fandom.

You really need to get over U;Nee.
She's mediocre at best.
Her dancing is forced, cheesy, and overall generic. She always looked like a little girl trying way to hard be sexy, but failed.
I see no unique style to her...
Not to mention her voice sucks :/
And you do realize that in the clip of her dancing to Lose My Breath, THE MAJORITY OF THE MOVES ARE FROM DESTINY'S CHILD'S CHOREOGRAPHY. The rest are basic stripper moves...


And it's amazing that you can call Koda Kumi a good dancer...while you criticize artists like Ciara for popping out their butts? Kumi humps bottles and stuffs them in her skirt in music videos.


But for now, I'm done in this topic (not quite though).
I should have left this topic a long time ago. D:

Hrm...in the end Stephanie and BoA are few of the female asian singer-dancers that could go toe to toe with American female singer-dancers...(although they would still lose to the best of the best :X )


p.s.

Wow Christina Aguilera in her *Dirrty* style WOAH very impressive, she has some MAD SKILL up on her. Ciara, Beyonce, Janet, and others need to learn from her.

LMFAO!
You are obviously insane xD

[UNee4Life]

Hrm...in the end Stephanie and BoA are few of the female asian singer-dancers that could go toe to toe with American female singer-dancers...(although they would still lose to the best of the best :X )

hold up you think BoA is a good dancer? she can go head to head with american, wow...

oh and don't ever bring up U;Nee's singing again. and you shoulld listen yourself more often. "But for now, I'm done in this topic.
I should have left this topic a long time ago. D:"

[Odyism]

^I love how you erased the (not quite though)

I also love how your username is Boasbiatchleo.

Lmao. Why shouldn't I bring up her singing? Because it's even more mediocre and filling than her dancing?

And in terms of singers who are dancers, BoA's still one of the best females in Asia. I'd like to see other artists try to pull of the dance in Over the Top, Midnight Parade, Dakishimeru, Key of Heart, etc.
She is certainly better than U;Nee, Min, etc :X

[*.:StarryEyeSurprise:.*]

BoasBiatchLeo really irks me
always putting unee and mina on a high pedestal while dissing other performers that are obviously better
you say 'it's sad how hypocritical you are' but seriously, the irony You are the hypocrite
do you even think when you type stuff out?
you always diss other performers and when some ppl criticise and express their opinion
you practically bite their head off

[UNee4Life]

BoasBiatchLeo really irks me
always putting unee and mina on a high pedestal while dissing other performers that are obviously better
you say 'it's sad how hypocritical you are' but seriously, the irony You are the hypocrite
do you even think when you type stuff out?
you always diss other performers and when some ppl criticise and express their opinion
you practically bite their head off

I like how you talk as if you know me so well. I don't diss all artist. I like all the sexy ones. I likED ciara but i'm over her. I like Aaliyah a lot, I just think Beyonce is overrated. I'm sorry that I don't like the typical singers everyone else likes and I don't praise and worship them. I like who i like and always will so get over it.

[pinkstripes]

Hm, I don`t post too much on Soompi but I thought this was kinda hilarious.
I couldn`t help myself.

HAHHAHAHAHA *throws up in my mouth*

Could you stop throwing up in your mouth? Thanks.
It`s kinda gross.
Even if you do, no need to share it with the world.

Hahah many people I talk to say how she is very boring now, ehr songs are all the same, her dancing is all the same, her voice isn't good.

Uh, and U;nee`s is?

She break dances, pop, hip hops, all over the place and in heels. She works not only her body but her HAIR! Ciara doesn't use her hair at all, Hair is a very valuable part for a woman to use during dancing esspecially when trying to get attention. U;Nee was actually the first korean felame dancer to break the stereotype that women can only dance cute. She busted out with breakdancing, sexyness and flawlessness and everyone was impressed. Anyone who sees U;Nee dances is AMAZED she could just stand there and and bop her head and it'll be so amazing. U;Nee has energy and passion in all her dances. She is expressing herself through her dancing, it's pretty amazing.

Uh, she doesn`t pop. I`ve never seen her breakdance either? And hip-hop? What a joke.
Hip-hop is what Ciara does. Not U;nee.

And she works her hair? Oh WOW.
Honestly, spinning around her hair adds to the sluttiness of her dances. It`s almost to the point where it seems like that`s what attracts people`s attention. Not her dancing.
She may have been the first Korean female dancer to break that stereotype but people like Tina Turner and Janet Jackson broke it loooong before she did.


Honestly, U;nee can`t dance. All she does is stick out her chest and her butt a few times, throw her hair around a few more times and do a split ever now and then.

Ciara and Janet Jackson, they have flow. They don`t need to dip down low to look sexy.
They`re movements just have grace in them.
The way their feet move and their arms. Everything is like water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcB4KUCm-Tw
Look how awkward some of U;nee`s moves look. The way she kicks her legs and stuff?
It`s all so jerky. She can`t flow the way Ciara does.

Just because she has energy, doesn`t mean her dancing is good.
Hell, I have energy when I dance and no way am I up to anyone`s level.
It`s how well your body flows.
Ciara`s slow dancing may not have as much energy but it`s a whole lot sexier to watch than U;nee`s ass-popping.

And don`t you know that these women run on treadmills in heels?
And what do you mean by they don`t dance in heels?
As far as I`m concerned, Beyonce`s all heels.


You say people here are biased but wouldn`t that be kinda hypocritical of you?
I mean, you said so yourself and I quote

but since she is my favorite singer

isn`t that why you`re giving her such a high name?

[HK Tequila]

I seriously hate when people say that. what proof do you have that she is a wannabe Aaliyah? Except for the fact that she is black, wears long hair, and is a great dancer? (i personally don't think aaliyah could dance a lick but if people want to make like she did because she died then i'll go long with it)

First off, my comparison of Ciara to Aaliyah had to due with her style of singing, which Ciara herself has been asked about her similiarity to Aaliyah. I'm simply pointing out the similarity not dissing. And to whoever said that Ciara's popularity is fading is really out of touch, I would be quicker to say that Beyonce is starting to fade.

Back to the main topic of female dancers. There is a big difference between someone who can dance to some choreography that they have been taught to learn, and to a dancer who at the drop of a hat could simply start dancing and look good doing it.

Probably 99% of female Korean stars who might be good at dancing to choreography are probably quite crappy when asked to simply dance. Usually the only American artists who you see dancing are the ones who can dance with and without choreography.

[LucasBunny]

First off, my comparison of Ciara to Aaliyah had to due with her style of singing, which Ciara herself has been asked about her similiarity to Aaliyah. I'm simply pointing out the similarity not dissing. And to whoever said that Ciara's popularity is fading is really out of touch, I would be quicker to say that Beyonce is starting to fade.

Back to the main topic of female dancers. There is a big difference between someone who can dance to some choreography that they have been taught to learn, and to a dancer who at the drop of a hat could simply start dancing and look good doing it.

Probably 99% of female Korean stars who might be good at dancing to choreography are probably quite crappy when asked to simply dance. Usually the only American artists who you see dancing are the ones who can dance with and without choreography.

I agree with u
every last thing you said
thas what I been trying to say that majority of korean/asian female artists rely on choreography