Fitness, diet, training Discuss
#1501
Posted 05 October 2008 - 06:08 AM
i eat a lot and i mean a lot.. red meat and vegetables dairy products etc... but the weight isnt coming on... i dont get it..
is there some sort of foods that will make me have more "meat" or is there any "artificial supplement" ???
#1502
Posted 05 October 2008 - 07:17 AM
i'm a 1st timer here, so please bear with my ignorance
well, im 5'3 and im weighin 120 at the moment. this is the heaviest i been since i hit 18 (23 now). well, diet is simply vegs, fruits, special k as bfast and fish n lil meat. i dont eat fast food or any junk food. my only sin is the odd choc or sweet here and there. i go cardio to the gym once a week and im at work the rest of the week which is pretty busy walking around n carrying stuff. i basically eat around 1500 calories a day, but i dont seem to be shiftting any weight at all.
and also i stopped smokin recently, from chain heavy smoker to cold turkey for 2 months now. can that be influencin my bodys metabolism ?? and yeah minimum alcohol since college days.
i just dont wana put on any more, and loose a little is possible. and i dont wana go excercisin any more as work keeps me too busy. i think i am doin everything by the book, which is either eat less or excercise more. what else can i do ??? it is upsetting that my efforts are nopt showin any results
By the book doesn't just mean what the surgeon general says (since this is often overly simplistic). What are you eating, not just how much and what are you doing when you go to the gym? Based on what you are describing, it looks like you probably won't have heart disease, but that doesn't mean you will look the way you want. Also, don't focus on weight as that is very superfluous. If you lose fat but put on muscle you will probably weigh more, but look much better. More info please...
#1503
Posted 05 October 2008 - 01:04 PM
#1504
Posted 05 October 2008 - 02:44 PM
i eat a lot and i mean a lot.. red meat and vegetables dairy products etc... but the weight isnt coming on... i dont get it..
is there some sort of foods that will make me have more "meat" or is there any "artificial supplement" ???
Start calorie counting. If you eat let's say 2500 calories now
then increase it to 3000. If that doesn't work then 3500 and so on.
You're probably doing the 3 meals a day also. Switch it up and get at
least 5-6 in a day. You should be able to gain at least 2lbs a week.
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#1505
Posted 05 October 2008 - 06:17 PM
then increase it to 3000. If that doesn't work then 3500 and so on.
You're probably doing the 3 meals a day also. Switch it up and get at
least 5-6 in a day. You should be able to gain at least 2lbs a week.
awesome ill be sure to eat 5-6 times a day
didnt think of that.. wat the hahaa
thanks man!!
#1506
Posted 13 October 2008 - 01:34 AM
my current weight is 60 kg and my height is 165 cm.i really want to lose weight but the healthy way.
so here is my plan.please tell me whether this will help or not
breakfast:a glass of milk and bread with jam
lunch:chicken with no skin and variety of veggies
dinner: meat n veggies
i'm also thinking of taking vitamin pills and exercise on treadmill for 30 minutes about 5 days a week.
will all these help me lose like 15 pounds or 10 before new year.
#1507
Posted 13 October 2008 - 07:45 AM
my current weight is 60 kg and my height is 165 cm.i really want to lose weight but the healthy way.
so here is my plan.please tell me whether this will help or not
breakfast:a glass of milk and bread with jam
lunch:chicken with no skin and variety of veggies
dinner: meat n veggies
i'm also thinking of taking vitamin pills and exercise on treadmill for 30 minutes about 5 days a week.
will all these help me lose like 15 pounds or 10 before new year.
There are barely any carbs in your diet. How are you gonna exercise
with no energy? lol. Anyways like i've said a billion and one times in this thread.
Adapt the 5-6 meals a day approach. Small meals of course. Calorie count.
Calculate maintenance using a calculator on google. Then make sure you're
200 to 500 below everyday. The diet you have so far is ok but you need to add
at least 2 more meals. Pre/post workout preferably with carbs/protein in both.
Make sure the intensity you're running at is high. No one ever got anything
done by walking leisurely or jogging leisurely. Also weigh yourself once a week
in the morning, naked after urinating and before eating. Same day every week.
http://xbeastmode.tumblr.com/
#1508
Posted 13 October 2008 - 05:11 PM
with no energy? lol. Anyways like i've said a billion and one times in this thread.
Adapt the 5-6 meals a day approach. Small meals of course. Calorie count.
Calculate maintenance using a calculator on google. Then make sure you're
200 to 500 below everyday. The diet you have so far is ok but you need to add
at least 2 more meals. Pre/post workout preferably with carbs/protein in both.
Make sure the intensity you're running at is high. No one ever got anything
done by walking leisurely or jogging leisurely. Also weigh yourself once a week
in the morning, naked after urinating and before eating. Same day every week.
I actually disagree with your advice on this particular diet. There are quite a few carbs (jam and bread for breakfast and the veggies for dinner and lunch). With the exception of milk and bread it's a rather paleo diet. What you don't have enough of are healthy fats like nuts or fish. Biochemistry wise, and to prevent insulin resistant, you need to make sure you have an adequate amount of carbs, fat and protein. I would suggest you snack on fruit or nuts when you need it and make sure the protein is lean.
#1509
Posted 14 October 2008 - 12:54 AM
I started calorie couting like someone had told me to do before. It's not as bad as I thought it would be.
After counting breakfast, morning tea, lunch and anything I ate or drank in between I came down to approximately 797 calories in total (assuming water is zero calorie). I've been trying to cut down on the carbs so I'm basically eating vegetables, meat, some dairy and avoiding legumes and high GI fruits and carbs like bread and rice.
What do you think of my this, am I doing okay? I don't actually weight much to begin with. By lowering my calorie intake I was hoping my body would slowly eat its own fat or something.
#1510
Posted 14 October 2008 - 01:00 AM
#1511
Posted 14 October 2008 - 01:05 AM
I am eating lots, never hungry which is making me wonder what I've been doing these past couple of years.
I eat a little bit of rice for dinner.. if that counts.
Aren't most people meant to cut down on the carbs though?
#1512
Posted 14 October 2008 - 07:23 AM
I am eating lots, never hungry which is making me wonder what I've been doing these past couple of years.
I eat a little bit of rice for dinner.. if that counts.
Aren't most people meant to cut down on the carbs though?
Depends on what your diet was like before. Also nobody should
ever cut carbs out completely. It's a matter of controlling the carb intake.
So you're only eating 3 meals a day? How much do you weigh and
at what height? Give us a sample of what you ate yesterday throughout
the entire day.
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#1513
Posted 14 October 2008 - 10:18 AM
I am eating lots, never hungry which is making me wonder what I've been doing these past couple of years.
I eat a little bit of rice for dinner.. if that counts.
Aren't most people meant to cut down on the carbs though?
Most people don't utilize all the carbs they take in. ( average person: including the weekend warrior, beginner fitness, lots of hs athletes during offseason )
eating lots is good! exercise! sleep! repeat!
#1514
Posted 14 October 2008 - 02:38 PM
Carbs are bio-molecules composed of a carbon strand with hydroxl or OH attachments. They make up cellulose in plants and animal starch. They are also one of our most abundant sources of nutrition and are broken down into sugars our body can process, most importantly, glucose to use for energy.
Though carbs are not nutritionally essential, meaning we are also able to obtain energy from fat and protein, it is our only source of glucose which is required by our brain. Therefore, DO NOT CUT CARBS FROM YOUR DIET COMPLETELY! Excess glucose is stored in the body as glycogen which is simpler to breakdown than fat or protein (part of a complex process of why excess carbs can lead to retaining fat, it's easier and faster to use for energy than breaking down adipose (fat) stores.
Simple (process sugars, white flours, corn syrup) carbs can also affect your glycemic index, causing a spike in glucose in your blood. This is due to the ease with which these particular carbs are broken down into sugar. The exact process is a not straight forward (the endocrine system is anything but simple) but huge quantities of simple carbs or high glycemic carbs have shown a correlation with obesity and high cholesterol among other things. Regular high insulin spikes (to absorb the excess glucose) can also lead to type II diabetes and can also be responsible for your mid day crash or the crash you feel after a sugar rush.
Now that the science is behind us; what this means for you is that you need to eat carbs. Keep in mind that many of those low carb diets were originally created using college athletes, who are not you and I. We probably don't need as much protein in our diet, though lean protein is very beneficial to have in our diet. Also, you do not need to carbo load just because you are working out. Endurance athletes can sometimes reach a glycogen debt where they use all their glycogen stores and this is the reason marathon runners will carbo-load. So unless you are training to be the next Lance Armstrong, you do not need to ingest high amounts of carbs before a workout.
Okay, so you are eating carbs. Make sure you eat the right carbs. The problem is that our society has evolved much quicker than our digestive/ endocrine systems have. Our ancestors did not have access to as many processed carbs as we do now (the same could be said for fat and protein...I don't know about you, but I personally don't hunt my dinner every night). Historically our ancestors were mostly hunters/gathers and majority of their diet was non-meat based. This is pre-agriculture, so I don't mean wheat or corn. Instead I mean nuts, berries, fruit and vegetables which are non-processed and a complex source of carbs (the nuts are a great source of fat too).
Looking at our diet from an evolutionary perspective, you could also make the argument against eating regular meals of equal portion at the same time each day, but is a whole other discussion.
To summarize: Eat carbs; eat healthy complex carbs like vegetables, whole grains, and fruit. When you knock out the processed simple sugars in your diet like jam, candies, soda, pastries and white bread, you will realize how much of your diet was unhealthy, easily accessible simple carbs and you will probably cut down to a healthy standard of carbs.
I hope this was helpful and not too confusing.
#1515
Posted 14 October 2008 - 05:06 PM
#1516
Posted 14 October 2008 - 10:03 PM
Breakfast: wholemilk; around 200 mL
Morning tea: 1/2 Le Rice approx. 147 calories
Lunch: Salad with chicken, some sort of veg (carrot, cheery tomatoes etc.) 2 hardboiled eggs
Afternoon: juice of 2 freshly squeezed grapefruit
Dinner: white rice and something Asian/ it's hard to say what I eat at dinner because my mother cooks something different everynight.
Plus an apple at night if I get hungry.
It may seem like dinner is a big meal but I don't sleep for at least 5 hours after dinner so I'd get hungry fairly fast.
And I am around 44~46 kg. It fluctuates like mad. I'm only around 152 cm tall though. (99ish pounds, 5"something)
I'm not aiming to lose weight but fat mass and then build on some muscle later.
#1517
Posted 14 October 2008 - 10:30 PM
Breakfast: wholemilk; around 200 mL
Morning tea: 1/2 Le Rice approx. 147 calories
Lunch: Salad with chicken, some sort of veg (carrot, cheery tomatoes etc.) 2 hardboiled eggs
Afternoon: juice of 2 freshly squeezed grapefruit
Dinner: white rice and something Asian/ it's hard to say what I eat at dinner because my mother cooks something different everynight.
Plus an apple at night if I get hungry.
It may seem like dinner is a big meal but I don't sleep for at least 5 hours after dinner so I'd get hungry fairly fast.
And I am around 44~46 kg. It fluctuates like mad. I'm only around 152 cm tall though. (99ish pounds, 5"something)
I'm not aiming to lose weight but fat mass and then build on some muscle later.
Sounds ok but i'd recommend eating some solid foods instead of just drinking
milk. Anyways if you want to put on muscle you gotta eat more protein.
Not exactly sure as to the nutritional content of whole milk but I do believe it
contains quite a bit of fat. It would be wiser to drink like 2% or 1% milk along with
some whole food for bfast. For lunch why don't you add more chicken and move
the hardboiled eggs to the afternoon so you're always getting protein from every meal?
I'd suggest eating something with protein at night vs an apple because you don't want
to be eating carbs before bed. It would be better to put the apple onto your bfast.
Again these are just my opinions. Use at your own discretion.
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#1518
Posted 15 October 2008 - 04:42 AM
Carbs are bio-molecules composed of a carbon strand with hydroxl or OH attachments. They make up cellulose in plants and animal starch. They are also one of our most abundant sources of nutrition and are broken down into sugars our body can process, most importantly, glucose to use for energy.
Though carbs are not nutritionally essential, meaning we are also able to obtain energy from fat and protein, it is our only source of glucose which is required by our brain. Therefore, DO NOT CUT CARBS FROM YOUR DIET COMPLETELY! Excess glucose is stored in the body as glycogen which is simpler to breakdown than fat or protein (part of a complex process of why excess carbs can lead to retaining fat, it's easier and faster to use for energy than breaking down adipose (fat) stores.
Simple (process sugars, white flours, corn syrup) carbs can also affect your glycemic index, causing a spike in glucose in your blood. This is due to the ease with which these particular carbs are broken down into sugar. The exact process is a not straight forward (the endocrine system is anything but simple) but huge quantities of simple carbs or high glycemic carbs have shown a correlation with obesity and high cholesterol among other things. Regular high insulin spikes (to absorb the excess glucose) can also lead to type II diabetes and can also be responsible for your mid day crash or the crash you feel after a sugar rush.
Now that the science is behind us; what this means for you is that you need to eat carbs. Keep in mind that many of those low carb diets were originally created using college athletes, who are not you and I. We probably don't need as much protein in our diet, though lean protein is very beneficial to have in our diet. Also, you do not need to carbo load just because you are working out. Endurance athletes can sometimes reach a glycogen debt where they use all their glycogen stores and this is the reason marathon runners will carbo-load. So unless you are training to be the next Lance Armstrong, you do not need to ingest high amounts of carbs before a workout.
Okay, so you are eating carbs. Make sure you eat the right carbs. The problem is that our society has evolved much quicker than our digestive/ endocrine systems have. Our ancestors did not have access to as many processed carbs as we do now (the same could be said for fat and protein...I don't know about you, but I personally don't hunt my dinner every night). Historically our ancestors were mostly hunters/gathers and majority of their diet was non-meat based. This is pre-agriculture, so I don't mean wheat or corn. Instead I mean nuts, berries, fruit and vegetables which are non-processed and a complex source of carbs (the nuts are a great source of fat too).
Looking at our diet from an evolutionary perspective, you could also make the argument against eating regular meals of equal portion at the same time each day, but is a whole other discussion.
To summarize: Eat carbs; eat healthy complex carbs like vegetables, whole grains, and fruit. When you knock out the processed simple sugars in your diet like jam, candies, soda, pastries and white bread, you will realize how much of your diet was unhealthy, easily accessible simple carbs and you will probably cut down to a healthy standard of carbs.
I hope this was helpful and not too confusing.
but i thought our early ancestors ate meat too? they killed animals and ate their meat, no?
#1519
Posted 15 October 2008 - 09:27 AM
What I mean is that meat was not a consistent staple in their diet. They would go through phases of eating large quantities of meat and then not very much at all. When you hunt your food, it's not possible to rely on a constant supply. Also, I am referring to nomadic and not agricultural societies which would not be able to cure large quanities of meat of later consumption.
Again, the point of my earlier post is that you should eat carbs, but complex carbs. Protein and fat are also important staples of our diet, but animal fat and protein doesn't have to be present in every meal.



















