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#2101 User is offline   KimHyunJoongOppaJiang<3 

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 11:55 PM

Hi I'm a freshman college student and have recently gained a bit of weight. I keep working out, cardio for about 30-45 minutes and i really do try to watch what i eat. But rather than fitting into my jeans better, i believe i've merely built muscle but not gotten rid of any fat at all. My legs do seem a bit firmer, but not slimmer. My goal is lose somewhere around 10 pounds and slim down about a jean size. My typical daily diet is either a wrap, deli sandwich, or salad for lunch and something substantial for dinner, such as pasta, chicken with rice, anything that would stop cravings later on in the evening. Yet i still find myself fighting off the urge to eat ramen at 2am. Oh, and breakfast is sporadic at best, maybe a muffin or like a powerade 2 mornings out of the week.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 01:15 PM

Hi.
I'm 142lb, 5'4 1/2, and F.
I've been working out at 24 hour fitness for like more than an hour for at least 5 days a week.
I just started working out, but i don't know which exercise stuff to start with.
I wanna lose all those fats on my thigh and stomach, or you can say that i just wanna tone them up without having those HUGE muscles popping out. >.<
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (itislorraine @ Feb 19 2009, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi.
I'm 142lb, 5'4 1/2, and F.
I've been working out at 24 hour fitness for like more than an hour for at least 5 days a week.
I just started working out, but i don't know which exercise stuff to start with.
I wanna lose all those fats on my thigh and stomach, or you can say that i just wanna tone them up without having those HUGE muscles popping out. >.<


Stick to cardio first to trim the fat. Make sure you eat lean protein with every meal, and most of your carbs should be primarily sourced through highly fibrous vegetables. Do not forget to take in fat. You need to consume fat to lose weight. Less carbs, more fat! Take your vitamins, and consume atleast 5g of fish oil every day. The only non-vegetable carb source that is allowed should be immediately after workout (20-30g).

In terms of caloric intake, count your current daily amount and subtract 500 from it. From there your prot/carb/fat should be around 50/25/25 or 60/20/20, or w/e. Key is to minimize the carbs and ensure atleast 20% of caloric intake from fats (olive oil, nuts, eggs, fish). The rest should be protein. Do this for a month, I'll guarantee that fat will melt off your body.

Once you lose the body fat, then you can start thinking about toning and sculpting your body.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 03:14 PM

hmm so what's the difference between exercising to lose weight/fat as opposed to exercising to gain muscle?

I think my waist has gotten smaller as I've been exercising a lot more these days, but my weight increased by ~5lb (T__T) and my legs are bulgier than ever...
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 04:32 PM

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Haha. Its always hardest to get there. But once it becomes a habit, you'll wonder how you ever did without working out. Keep us posted on your progress. Accountability is important. smile.gif


Okaay, thaanks I figured that because I was able to do that before, but it was so hard ! but I know I can do it !
I will try to keep a progress of how I am doing. Speaking of working out, I am just now leaving to run for 10 miles (:
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE (D_K @ Feb 18 2009, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dimples like a titleist golf ball? The only way i know is through lowering your bf %, sometimes to extreme levels for women. That or lipo.


Liposuction? tears.gif I don't think it's because I'm fat. I'm actually pretty thin? It's like two things where there is bone in the lower back? Like two indents where there's no fat in between the skin and bone? I actually tried to find it on the internet and somebody on Urban Dictionary said it was genetic or something. Or maybe I'm just deformed.

Also, my friend said I shouldn't eat before working out. How long before exercising should you eat?
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:47 PM

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Stick to cardio first to trim the fat. Make sure you eat lean protein with every meal, and most of your carbs should be primarily sourced through highly fibrous vegetables. Do not forget to take in fat. You need to consume fat to lose weight. Less carbs, more fat! Take your vitamins, and consume atleast 5g of fish oil every day. The only non-vegetable carb source that is allowed should be immediately after workout (20-30g).

In terms of caloric intake, count your current daily amount and subtract 500 from it. From there your prot/carb/fat should be around 50/25/25 or 60/20/20, or w/e. Key is to minimize the carbs and ensure atleast 20% of caloric intake from fats (olive oil, nuts, eggs, fish). The rest should be protein. Do this for a month, I'll guarantee that fat will melt off your body.

Once you lose the body fat, then you can start thinking about toning and sculpting your body.


Should i run for a long period of times? What kind of cardio should i start with? And i don't know which kinds of fibrous vegetables i should eat, lol.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE (jinny107 @ Feb 19 2009, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Liposuction? tears.gif I don't think it's because I'm fat. I'm actually pretty thin? It's like two things where there is bone in the lower back? Like two indents where there's no fat in between the skin and bone? I actually tried to find it on the internet and somebody on Urban Dictionary said it was genetic or something. Or maybe I'm just deformed.

Also, my friend said I shouldn't eat before working out. How long before exercising should you eat?


They're called back dimples. Nothing to worry about. They're actually a good thing.
If I were you, I wouldn't be trying to get rid of them. They're actually an attractive feature.

Eating before and after working out is a GOOD thing. You can eat anything up to an hour before
working out. If you want to eat a lot then eat 2 hours prior so it can digest mostly before training.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 06:07 PM

QUOTE (Makaveli @ Feb 19 2009, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They're called back dimples. Nothing to worry about. They're actually a good thing.
If I were you, I wouldn't be trying to get rid of them. They're actually an attractive feature.

Eating before and after working out is a GOOD thing. You can eat anything up to an hour before
working out. If you want to eat a lot then eat 2 hours prior so it can digest mostly before training.



Really? My aunt says eating before working out is a bad thing.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (jinny107 @ Feb 19 2009, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Liposuction? tears.gif I don't think it's because I'm fat. I'm actually pretty thin? It's like two things where there is bone in the lower back? Like two indents where there's no fat in between the skin and bone? I actually tried to find it on the internet and somebody on Urban Dictionary said it was genetic or something. Or maybe I'm just deformed.

Also, my friend said I shouldn't eat before working out. How long before exercising should you eat?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimples_of_Venus

Dimples of Venus is considered sexually attractive and girls want it. The end.

I'm not replying to your friend since your friend is stupid, anywhere between 1-4 hours it depends on your stomach. Though protein shakes can be taken within 20-30minutes.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:22 PM

^^^
I meant that it feels better if you exercise on empty stomach? I dunno, i'm just repeating what my aunt says.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (itislorraine @ Feb 19 2009, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^^^
I meant that it feels better if you exercise on empty stomach? I dunno, i'm just repeating what my aunt says.


oh! is it your aunt that wants advice? ^^^ in the end do whatever ya want! biggrin.gif its your body and life this is just a forum!!! plenty of people exercise on an empty stomach and I advocate it at certain times as well. Either way I don't think anyone is interested in having a discussion with your aunt unless she is gorgeous and single!
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:32 PM

Current Workout Schedual:
Sets: 3
Reps: 8~10
Monday (Squats, Curls)
Tuesday (Bench Press, Skull Crushers)
Wednesday (Military Press, Rows)
Thursday (Forearm Curls, Shrugs)
Friday (Bench Press, Skull Crushers, Squats)
Saturday (Military Press, Rows, Curls)
Sunday: Rest

Abs and core every other day

AfterWorkout: 30g whey protein mixed with 2~3 cups of milk

Its currently 25 days into the 100 day I set for myself for summer :]
I went from previously 123lbs to 127lbs o.O hurray ^-^

questions:

how much musclemass/growth rate should i expect within any certain time period?
is it natural if one arm is slightly bigger than the other?
should i add any other workout into my routine?
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE (kinein @ Feb 19 2009, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh! is it your aunt that wants advice? if she has a hot body and makes teenage boys drool then I don't think you need to be on this thread ^^^ in the end do whatever ya want! biggrin.gif its your body and life this is just a forum!!!



LMAO.
But i would like some helpful advices and suggestions here on soompi though (:
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (jinny107 @ Feb 19 2009, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Liposuction? tears.gif I don't think it's because I'm fat. I'm actually pretty thin? It's like two things where there is bone in the lower back? Like two indents where there's no fat in between the skin and bone? I actually tried to find it on the internet and somebody on Urban Dictionary said it was genetic or something. Or maybe I'm just deformed.

Also, my friend said I shouldn't eat before working out. How long before exercising should you eat?


Oops. My bad! I was referring to ass dimples - i.e., cellulite.

QUOTE (Danni3 @ Feb 19 2009, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Current Workout Schedual:
Sets: 3
Reps: 8~10
Monday (Squats, Curls)
Tuesday (Bench Press, Skull Crushers)
Wednesday (Military Press, Rows)
Thursday (Forearm Curls, Shrugs)
Friday (Bench Press, Skull Crushers, Squats)
Saturday (Military Press, Rows, Curls)
Sunday: Rest

Abs and core every other day

AfterWorkout: 30g whey protein mixed with 2~3 cups of milk

Its currently 25 days into the 100 day I set for myself for summer :]
I went from previously 123lbs to 127lbs o.O hurray ^-^

questions:

how much musclemass/growth rate should i expect within any certain time period?
is it natural if one arm is slightly bigger than the other?
should i add any other workout into my routine?


Dude. 6 days a week with 1 day of rest? When are you going to rest your body so that it can grow? You're missing the mother of all exercises: deadlifts.

You don't need to do forearm curls, and you can squeeze in shrugs with your shoulder or back day. If I were you I'd do full body compounds 3xwk with equal rest days in between workouts.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 09:43 PM

Question! What is the best combination for slim legs?
I go running up to 5 or 6 times a week, but I feel like my legs have become bulkier.
What exercises help slim and lengthen leg muscles?
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 10:01 PM

QUOTE (Danni3 @ Feb 19 2009, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Current Workout Schedual:
Sets: 3
Reps: 8~10
Monday (Squats, Curls)
Tuesday (Bench Press, Skull Crushers)
Wednesday (Military Press, Rows)
Thursday (Forearm Curls, Shrugs)
Friday (Bench Press, Skull Crushers, Squats)
Saturday (Military Press, Rows, Curls)
Sunday: Rest

Abs and core every other day

AfterWorkout: 30g whey protein mixed with 2~3 cups of milk

Its currently 25 days into the 100 day I set for myself for summer :]
I went from previously 123lbs to 127lbs o.O hurray ^-^

questions:

how much musclemass/growth rate should i expect within any certain time period?
is it natural if one arm is slightly bigger than the other?
should i add any other workout into my routine?


Holy mini cooper you're soo under weight. I think you should combine some of the exercises together on the same day, and compress your workouts. Maybe do 2 sets instead of 3 if you're gonna combine, lets say monday + tuesdays?


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Posted 20 February 2009 - 01:12 AM

A couple of dietary questions for you fitness gods:

First, what's the healthiest oatmeal to eat? Is instant oatmeal ok? How much of a difference does it make if you get the flavored kind vs. the plain kind?

And right now I am a dedicated, hardworking college student (rolleyes.gif) and on Tues/Thurs I have class from 10:30 to 1:30 and 2:30 to 4:30. I eat 2 eggs, toast, broccoli (yes, broccoli), half of an avocado and yogurt for breakfast before class, but within the next hour or two I'm already hungry. All I take to school for "lunch" in that hour break I have is an apple, banana, a couple oranges, and a mixture of almonds, walnuts and raisins, but usually I'm still hungry afterwards so I end up spending $2 for a Cliff bar (are those even really healthy?). sleep.gif Does have anyone have any suggestions for a quick/healthy/filling lunch that I can easily take to school with me?

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 01:29 AM

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so today I had my first track practice (I'm really just joining for the exercise, not the competition--i'm definitely not anything near fast haha) and we ran for a long time (or what seemed like a long time?). in the middle though I suddenly had this feeling like I was going to throw up and my nose was going to start bleeding and my brain was going to explode?
i'm assuming this is just because I'm kinda unfit right now + the sudden burst of exercise just kinda killed me? Or something like that? xD

but now my legs are really, really, really sore and I can barely walk properly...any tips on becoming less sore? I stretched before/after I ran, too! sad.gif


A lot of running injuries happen to people who stretch before running ~ just something I recall a coach once stating for track practice. I think do a little but don't over emphasize it pre-workout. Decreasing soreness ~ rest, make sure you have a good meal afterwards ~ it is vitally important you have protein afterwards - there are many many many many references about protein on this thread and on various health sites, nutrition sites.. so I expect you to do your homework. Along with pasta, simple carbs such as juice.gatorade.etc or a banana!

Sounds like you are "capable" of pushing yourself ~ you won't just die - you hit your "current" tolerance level as you noted. This develops much like your lungs and heart and muscles. It is your PIGHTING spirit. wink.gif

QUOTE (jinny107 @ Feb 18 2009, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Makaveli~
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Anywho, I have a new question but it may not be appropriate for this thread? Not sure. But I am trying to get rid of these umm (don't really know what to call them) they're like dimples only right above the butt region? sweatingbullets.gif Does anybody know what I'm talking about? I hate them and thought they'd go away once I started exercising, but they're still there!


YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REMOVE THE SEXY VENUS DIMPLES. DO NOT PASS GO. IMMEDIATELY RETURN BACK TO HOME!

QUOTE (NEW*AGE @ Feb 19 2009, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Question! What is the best combination for slim legs?
I go running up to 5 or 6 times a week, but I feel like my legs have become bulkier.
What exercises help slim and lengthen leg muscles?


You feel has nothing to do with reality - buy a tape measure. Measure once every 2-3 weeks. Best combination for slim legs? lose more bodyfat ~ Do more elliptical work, row machine and non impact cardio biggrin.gif

QUOTE (itislorraine @ Feb 19 2009, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LMAO.
But i would like some helpful advices and suggestions here on soompi though (:


Well if you keep bringing up your aunt then it doesn't sound like you actually want advice or suggestions tongue.gif

QUOTE (krngirl26 @ Feb 19 2009, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm so what's the difference between exercising to lose weight/fat as opposed to exercising to gain muscle?

I think my waist has gotten smaller as I've been exercising a lot more these days, but my weight increased by ~5lb (T__T) and my legs are bulgier than ever...


It gets very technical if you want a real answer and unless you buy me passion fruit iced tea *half sugar* and also spoil me with all you can eat bbq I refuse to at this point and time elaborate tho I am sure others may be of help.

Suffice it to say ~

One can primarily focus on losing fat (which means protecting as much muscle as possible) to avoid skinny-fat syndrome and getting sicker as a result ( though you'll see a lot of soompiers are great examples!!! ) also a lot of chinese girls and korean girls.. occasionally theres a couple that learn but yah.. asian people are still learning how to eat properly to maximize genetic potential. So... whatever!!!

Congratulations about "thinking" your waist as gotten smaller ~ now if you can actually bring up a viable example like an extra 1/2 inch or inch of room in your jeans waist line or a tape measurement wink.gif then we are rolling ... BUT BUT BUT ~ I believe you based on your earlier descriptions of your exercise ~ your worth the benefit of the doubt and I shan't write you off!

Weight fluctuates by 5-10lbs a day based on food water and rest. Also ~ your first 3 months of hard work and exercise can see the most biggest # changes ~ then the rest is fine tuning and detail work! Don't be scurred ~ eat right, work hard, and pight-o pight-o

I don't believe nada about your legs without pictures ~ too many people are deluded by their own self-perception. ;D avoid this at all costs.


QUOTE (NEW*AGE @ Feb 19 2009, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Question! What is the best combination for slim legs?
I go running up to 5 or 6 times a week, but I feel like my legs have become bulkier.
What exercises help slim and lengthen leg muscles?

No pictures or measurements over 3 months = BLAH!!!!!
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 01:40 AM

QUOTE (KIM_SAYS: @ Feb 20 2009, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A couple of dietary questions for you fitness gods:

First, what's the healthiest oatmeal to eat? Is instant oatmeal ok? How much of a difference does it make if you get the flavored kind vs. the plain kind?

And right now I am a dedicated, hardworking college student (rolleyes.gif) and on Tues/Thurs I have class from 10:30 to 1:30 and 2:30 to 4:30. I eat 2 eggs, toast, broccoli (yes, broccoli), half of an avocado and yogurt for breakfast before class, but within the next hour or two I'm already hungry. All I take to school for "lunch" in that hour break I have is an apple, banana, a couple oranges, and a mixture of almonds, walnuts and raisins, but usually I'm still hungry afterwards so I end up spending $2 for a Cliff bar (are those even really healthy?). sleep.gif Does have anyone have any suggestions for a quick/healthy/filling lunch that I can easily take to school with me?

Thanks!


Steel cut ~ uh fiber content, sugar content etc.. BUTTTTTTTT ~ starting simple and forming good habits is #1 then adjusting your habits to be more effective is #2.

You aren't eating enough protein, add another egg or make sure to include whole wheat toaste and 1/2 a cup 1 cup of oatmeal! The added protein and fiber will keep you satiated longer in the morning and throughout the day ~ Keep in mind that breakfast sets the tone for a persons entire day of eating. There is more to it but you are better off reading articles and findings on your own ~ feel free to pm me for links if you really want to read more on nutrition.

Easily take to school ~ I assume you drive and have a car therefore have room to fit a small cooler to pack drinks, a shake, and sandwiches and small tupperware. Boiled eggs, grilled chicken breast, tunafish sandwiches, egg salad sandwiches ( whole wheat bread ), peanut butter and jelly sandwiches ( as long as you exercise and eat a clean diet the jelly is fine ~ unless your trying to get skinnier but I don't think you have that problem - your metabolism seems to be working A-Okay and as long as you keep it fed and don't turn into a sloth your good to go (exercise is importante of course as maintenance!!)

Oh and other sandwiches like a roast beef sandwich etc just make like batches of sandwiches. Generally speaking they should last at least 3 days after prep as long as you seal them up and keep them cool ( see refrigerator for more details ) I like to toss in cucumbers into lots of my sandwiches and other things ~ you can be creative with the veggies of course ;) Avoid the prepackaged avg supermarket meats and only deli meats for sandwiches if you have any fat issues ~ otherwise enjoy away! ;D

TADA! cliff bars.. uhhhhhhhh ...... uhhh.... if your appearance is getting worse it could be worse but for the same price you could have a few boiled eggs.. or 2-3 cans of tuna... etc biggrin.gif


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