I personally do dumbbells or hammer-strength machines for chest exercises. Occasionally I'll utilize flat barbells but you see the most shoulder injuries with flat barbell. It isn't the end all of developing a chest. See Makaveli's statement ~ I also like smith machine work since I don't need a spotter for the most part. After a certain point it can get dangerous to do barbell work by yourself at higher weights.
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#2251
Posted 09 March 2009 - 07:02 PM
I personally do dumbbells or hammer-strength machines for chest exercises. Occasionally I'll utilize flat barbells but you see the most shoulder injuries with flat barbell. It isn't the end all of developing a chest. See Makaveli's statement ~ I also like smith machine work since I don't need a spotter for the most part. After a certain point it can get dangerous to do barbell work by yourself at higher weights.
#2252
Posted 09 March 2009 - 07:16 PM
Thnx for the reply, Makaveli also. I'm glad to hear. The reason i made this thread is because i always use flat barbell benchpress as my main/heavy chest exercise when im fresh, and I think i stressed my shoulder a little bit so i'm trying to stay away from that now.
#2253
Posted 09 March 2009 - 07:36 PM
i've been here before.. but lost it.. or cant find it >.< sorry~~
i just wanted to make sure i was doin fine..
I'm 15 years old ~female, I go to school so i dont have alot of time to workout
53 pounds~ 5'2
Your 53lbs?!
There isn't anything wrong with tossing that exercise out for 3-6 months and going back to it if you want to later
#2254
Posted 09 March 2009 - 11:13 PM
i thought i'd give this a shot, too.
Age: 18
Height: 5'3" (almost 5'4")
Weight: 115~118lbs (haven't weighed myself in a while)
Experience with sports: none really
Any athletic experience ( even cheerleading or competitive dog chasing ):
Diet: usually cafeteria food (i attend university and live on-campus, so that means a generally inconsistent diet in terms of what I eat and when i eat. it's pretty safe to say that it's unhealthy.)
my body type is kind of weird esp. for an asian girl. my arms and legs are pretty skinny (which leads most people to think that i am skinny) but my upper arms are very weak, with no muscle and are just flabby. my upper body is, i feel, somewhat heavy - i'm a c cup and have a lot of stomach fat.
basically i don't feel that i necessarily need to lose weight, but rather, i need to tone up. not gonna lie, i think my stomach fat is really gross and have been self-conscious about myself because of it for years. i'd like to focus on getting rid of the stomach fat (slimming down the top) and losing fat in my arms- i know that i'll need to do a lot of cardio either way though because i hear spot training doesn't work?
it's hard for me to go and exercise because the gym is pretty far from where i am on campus, and my days are very busy. running at night would be optimal but usually the friends i go running w/ are very busy also.. plus there was recently two rapes on my campus at night (by non-students) and the rapists haven't been caught yet, so i'm kinda paranoid. but still, i really do wanna commit to exercising, and have resolved to work at it more.
okay, sorry that was long. advice pls?
#2255
Posted 10 March 2009 - 12:28 AM
I've been thinking of changing the smith machine shoulder press for the barbell overhead press...or should i change it to seated DB press? I have noticed my traps haven't grow that much...so I was thinking of starting to do barbell upright rows?
And my last question, I have noticed my back has been growing pretty big... I don't really want a huge back 'cause of my height [5'7'' tall] which it would make me shorter? I just want a lean body. I've been thinking...that the reason that it seems pretty big, at the moment, is because I'm gaining some fat while bulking. So, it will look better [not that big] once I start my cutting phase? Am I right?
You can change your main press to anything you want. You're shrugs probably just suck ~ work on just pulling upwards ( seated shrugs with dbs ) with traps and controlling it down but never letting your traps rest.
Your workout doesn't look back I would have someone examine your technique. If you are worried about a thicker back then just use only 1 row per session. Sure you are right - fat gives the bulky look. Most people just don't grasp how much fat they actually have to lose though.
If there are any people that have bodyparts you admire you should ask them between sets or after their workout real quickly and be very courteous and hope they don't mind you asking them to review your form.
Or pay a good trainer or a bodybuilder/fitness person that works out at your gym to review your technique and form.. 45$ for an hour of review is reasonable for just a regular lifter with a nice body they should do it ~ you show them your lifts and they correct all your lifts.
#2257
Posted 10 March 2009 - 06:37 AM
Yes people who are small can still be beasts. I only weight 160lbs but I'll bet my next paycheck that if DK went out and PTed with us I could break him mentally and physcially.
Being a beast in the gym means nothing when you can't run 100yds without huffing and puffing.
#2258
Posted 10 March 2009 - 06:55 AM
age ; 22 yrs old
height ; 5'4
weight ; 142 lbs
i want to get lean, so i am going to try doing jumproping, about 1000 per day...
is that too much, and also will i bulk up?
#2259
Posted 10 March 2009 - 09:09 AM
age ; 22 yrs old
height ; 5'4
weight ; 142 lbs
i want to get lean, so i am going to try doing jumproping, about 1000 per day...
is that too much, and also will i bulk up?
Read the last 30 pages or so ~
Bulking is a myth where fat people exercise only a little and fail to apply fat-loss principles in exercise and DIETARY HABITS ~ Don't listen to out of shape people that can't strip down to their undies in a second. They can't demonstrate real world results ~ just stuff "they heard or saw on mtv".
#2260
Posted 10 March 2009 - 01:25 PM
i thought i'd give this a shot, too.
Age: 18
Height: 5'3" (almost 5'4")
Weight: 115~118lbs (haven't weighed myself in a while)
Experience with sports: none really
Any athletic experience ( even cheerleading or competitive dog chasing ):
Diet: usually cafeteria food (i attend university and live on-campus, so that means a generally inconsistent diet in terms of what I eat and when i eat. it's pretty safe to say that it's unhealthy.)
my body type is kind of weird esp. for an asian girl. my arms and legs are pretty skinny (which leads most people to think that i am skinny) but my upper arms are very weak, with no muscle and are just flabby. my upper body is, i feel, somewhat heavy - i'm a c cup and have a lot of stomach fat.
basically i don't feel that i necessarily need to lose weight, but rather, i need to tone up. not gonna lie, i think my stomach fat is really gross and have been self-conscious about myself because of it for years. i'd like to focus on getting rid of the stomach fat (slimming down the top) and losing fat in my arms- i know that i'll need to do a lot of cardio either way though because i hear spot training doesn't work?
it's hard for me to go and exercise because the gym is pretty far from where i am on campus, and my days are very busy. running at night would be optimal but usually the friends i go running w/ are very busy also.. plus there was recently two rapes on my campus at night (by non-students) and the rapists haven't been caught yet, so i'm kinda paranoid. but still, i really do wanna commit to exercising, and have resolved to work at it more.
okay, sorry that was long. advice pls?
The greatest flaw people have is the inability to manage their time effectively and organize their daily and weekly schedules so that they have time for themselves. To learn more about themselves, to think, to play, to socialize, to garner new friendships and enhance or develop ones they already have.
You need to stop making excuses ~ I understand night time being scary and I am NOT saying you should go workout at night unless you go with a group of friends. But there is time in the morning and afternoon as well. Also you can do exercises at home.
Cafeterias usually have a deli section and also you can modify your eating habits with the buffet options you have ( I love Uni cafeterias ) - just cut down on the carbs and strip burgers to patties and the vegetables involved etc. Delis you can make yummy sandwiches or stick to just the vegetable and meat cut portions etc. I've eaten at Uni Cafeterias this is not reason to say you have no healthy options.
Your body type is actually common. There are plenty of girls whom are predisposed to distributing fat toward the midsection with skinnier legs and arms thus giving an illusion that they are skinny. This is the skinny-fat syndrome that can be as bad or WORSE then being obese because it is misleading. Such as the girls that only take face shots and there is never one clear picture of their midsection.
You should feel it is necessary to lose body-fat and build healthy muscle to increase the quality of your life and the longevity of your health in the future and further on ( fortunately I suspect you aren't thinking how gorgeous you want to be in 2-3 years ~ you should! Exercise and body changes are year to year based on consistency!
It sounds like you have the potential to have a very nice body if you apply yourself with consistent exercise. Nice legs can be built, nice calves that are well defined can be built, good posture can be re-inforced and support for breasts and elimination of lower back aches and pain, lean toned arms can be built, boobs are more of a nutritional gamble where parents have to make sure their children are fed properly from infancy into their early teens - so your LUCKY AS HELL. I recommend you spend sometime to review the last 20 or so pages. After reading and reviewing posts I or Makaveli have made along with the other well-written responses feel free to repost any further questions you may have. Also if your serious I also recommend you read all the pages and make sure to pay attention to Nojeels posts as he made several really good replies and because he tried so hard I decided I'd help out once he more or less left soompi.
Some things you can do at home ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQOcFk0t-sU...feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCzlrFGoKO8...2AB&index=9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-BeUdtDZgI...re=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1Y7DFAX-M...feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpXRodXtek4...feature=channel
Here are some exercises you can do at home. Friend of mine has a gym in Fremont, California.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=GOPBal...amp;view=videos - more vids from him
Other workouts you can do @ home - there is a good p90(x) thread by pink1e on soompi~ check it out.
http://soompi.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=269869
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Great videos found here as well ~
http://www.youtube.com/user/Starbodies
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=scooby...amp;view=videos - he does a good job explaining how to do exercises right ~ this is great as a reference.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=charli...amp;view=videos - she has a lot of interesting exercises
http://www.youtube.com/user/Amysuds1969 - she is very knowledgeable as well
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cbathl...amp;view=videos - he teaches a lot of bodyweight exercises you can do at home as well!
http://www.youtube.com/user/SculptedbyDana - Dana is a cheerful and energetic instructor
#2261
Posted 10 March 2009 - 01:41 PM
i've been here before.. but lost it.. or cant find it >.< sorry~~
i just wanted to make sure i was doin fine..
I'm 15 years old ~female, I go to school so i dont have alot of time to workout
53 pounds~ 5'2
Stuff i usually eat:
B: cereal with milk or an apple/banna w' soymilk
S: crackers/gushers
L: a ham sandwhich
S: crackers or fruits or left-over food <--most likely this >.<
D: rice with chicken breast (its probably in an asian, indian, baked, style) rarely deep fried
S: tea
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I usually am able to get 1200-1300 calories.. I dont drink alot of water though.. which might be a problem O.o
I run 2-3 miles for 35-50 mins, 5x a week, walking *3.5 mph/running *6.2 mph intervals
I also do the 8 min ab workout everday >.<
~so far i've lost 2 pounds in 3 weeks >.>
i just want you to.. critique? my workout.. suggestions? any mistakes?
FYI i'm just trying to loose body fat all over and loose inches...
and i have a question ^^, i heard to tone up my arms i'd need to use dumbells?
won't that make my arms bulky or something? i just want them thinned *no flabby arms..
i actually tried dumbells before (the really light ones), like liftng them up and down LOL but seriously i didn't feel anything >.<
should i start weight training? i don't exactly know where to start with that.. thats why i never do it
my mom said it'll stop me from growing or im too young or something
Read the last 20 pages. The light dumbbells that you don't feel anything are useless ~ go heavier. At about 16 girls stop growing so your time to feed your body - infancy til early teens is about over ~ unless you have a time machine where you can go back and eat a lot of protein 4-6 times a day you're genetic time limit is about up. Your eating habits suck though. But you got like another year so... GANBAREH YO!
Protein every meal ~ gushers won't contribute to positive growth
Your cardio is fine ~ Weight-training will do wonders. Youtube - search toning arms should give you some good exercises. Pour on the chickenbreast shortie you got at least 1 good meal out of all of them! The ham sandwich is a snack. If you are losing weight you are doing something right!
More protein x 100,000 - remember carbs mainly will be extra energy but if you aren't working out much besides running you should keep it to breakfast and before/after workout ~ though if you really must.. then you can have more carbs in the morning and at lunch before 1pm
So pour on the protein : chicken fish red meat shrimp etc
Pour on the veggies : broccoli asparagus spinach etc
Pour on the water ~
Oh you've been lazy - read the last 20 pages. Better snack - a handful of almonds with raisins ( nuts of any kind - preferably unsalted ) fruits are fine just make sure to exercise! Celery sticks! Carrots! Baby Tomatoes!
Just remember if you cheat or splurge go pay it off with some extra exercise!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQOcFk0t-sU...feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCzlrFGoKO8...2AB&index=9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-BeUdtDZgI...re=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1Y7DFAX-M...feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpXRodXtek4...feature=channel
pink1e is moderating a great p90 thread! check it out
http://soompi.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=269869
Here are some exercises you can do at home. Friend of mine has a gym in Fremont, California.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=GOPBal...amp;view=videos - more vids from him
#2262
Posted 10 March 2009 - 05:32 PM
isn't a ham sandwich protein? the ham part.. hahahaha.. and its a snack???
and ayt
thanks~~
#2263
Posted 10 March 2009 - 06:35 PM
#2264
Posted 10 March 2009 - 06:49 PM
isn't a ham sandwich protein? the ham part.. hahahaha.. and its a snack???
and ayt
thanks~~
hehe rock it ;) feel free to post again and keep in touch!
Glad to be of service ~ cheers to a brighter more vibrant and quite enjoyable future and a summer that you wish would never end! MUAHAHAA ~ Now I must crawl back into my dungeon and meditate @ the iron sanctuary.
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Your welcome to you both.
#2265
Posted 11 March 2009 - 08:13 PM
will be good, if you can insist on this exercise, you will be successful.
#2266
Posted 12 March 2009 - 01:30 AM
will be good, if you can insist on this exercise, you will be successful.
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#2267
Posted 12 March 2009 - 01:47 AM
I train late at night, and only have time for a post-shake and sometimes 1 meal before I go to bed. Do you reckon this is hindering my gains a bit only managing to get a shake or a shake + a small meal before going to sleep?
Wow I just saw this got pinned, grats guys.
#2268
Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:30 AM
I train late at night, and only have time for a post-shake and sometimes 1 meal before I go to bed. Do you reckon this is hindering my gains a bit only managing to get a shake or a shake + a small meal before going to sleep?
Wow I just saw this got pinned, grats guys.
The gains depend on your training and what the rest of your diet is like for the day.
If you can get in a shake post-workout it should be fine as long as your diet for the rest
of the day is good.
http://xbeastmode.tumblr.com/
#2269
Posted 12 March 2009 - 10:06 AM
I've been thinking of changing the smith machine shoulder press for the barbell overhead press...or should i change it to seated DB press? I have noticed my traps haven't grow that much...so I was thinking of starting to do barbell upright rows? You'd want to do either DB or Barbell shrugs if you want to grow traps. Dead lifts also help your traps grow as well. Barbell upright rows target your deltoids more than traps and they're an OK exercise as long you're doing them light. Doing them heavy is a sure-fire way to get your shoulder injured.
And my last question, I have noticed my back has been growing pretty big... I don't really want a huge back 'cause of my height [5'7'' tall] which it would make me shorter? I just want a lean body. I've been thinking...that the reason that it seems pretty big, at the moment, is because I'm gaining some fat while bulking. So, it will look better [not that big] once I start my cutting phase? Am I right? Weightlifting won't make you any shorter. I dunno where you got the idea that a huge back will make you look shorter. Yes, your back will look much better once you cut down. Your back will look much leaner and definition will be more pronounced. That's the best thing when cutting down body fat.
Monday - Shoulders and Triceps
Shoulders
Exercise Sets Reps
Smith Machine Shoulder Press 4 12,10,8,8
Dumbbell Lateral Raise 4 12,10,8,8
Dumbbell Reverse Fly 4 12,10,8,8
Dumbbell Shrugs 4 12,10,8,8
Triceps
Exercise Sets Reps
Lying Tricep Extension 3 10,8,8
One Arm Cable Extension 3 10,8,8
One Arm Dumbbell Extension 3 10,8,8
Tuesday - Back
Back
Exercise Sets Reps
Wide Grip Pull Up 4 12,10,8,8
Close Grip Pull Down 4 12,10,8,8
One Arm Dumbbell Row 4 12,10,8,8
Bent Over Barbell Row 4 12,10,8,8
Thursday - Chest and Biceps
Chest
Exercise Sets Reps
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press 4 12,10,8,8
Barbell Bench Press 4 12,10,8,8
Incline Dumbbell Flys 4 12,10,8,8
Cable Crossovers 4 12,10,8,8
Biceps
Exercise Sets Reps
Incline Dumbbell Curl 3 10,8,8
Preacher Curl 3 10,8,6
Standing Hammer Curl 3 10,8,8
Friday - Legs
Quads, Hamstrings & Glutes
Exercise Sets Reps
Squat 4 12,10,8,8
45 Degree Leg Press 4 12,10,8,8
Leg Extension 4 12,10,8,8
Stiff Legged Deadlifts 4 12,10,8,8
Calves
Exercise Sets Reps
Seated calf Raise 3 10,8,8
Standing Calf Raise 3 15,12,10
#2270
Posted 12 March 2009 - 12:13 PM
T_T does this mean i shouldnt be doing these strength workouts such as this:

/ exercises involving squats + weights?><
grr what my doctor said really crushed my dream to become toned.



















