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#401 User is offline   funfunfun4every1 

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 08:29 PM

Wow I went through 20 pages of reading all your replies and honestly I'm so motivated. I've got a few questions that weren't answered (while I was looking through them I found so much repeated questions that pissed me off.. I mean people just can't look through the thread, can they?)

I might be the only girl in this thread that is trying to bulk up.. Not like scary body builder women though.. I need strength and muscle endurance for sports.

1) Is it good to do cardio everyday?
- This is because I push myself to the limits everytime I run and the next day my calves and hamstrings are hella sore. But I know I'd get used to this speed sooner or later but I'm worried that I'll screw up my muscles because I've read that you must let your muscles rest or else you're screwed.

2) How long do you wait between sets?
-When I wait 30-60 seconds I gotta do pyramid sets. Like the type where you do 10 in the beginning, then second time you do 8, third time you do even less. Is it more effective to do all of your reps the same but have a longer time interval between them?

3) Do you have to stretch after you work out?
-After a workout I am extremely tired and usually I can't do anything but lie on the mats in starfish position so I usually don't stretch.. Which leads us into the next question.

4) Is being sore okay?
-I'm usually extremely sore after a workout. People tell me that if I stretch properly I wouldn't be sore at all. Should I still work out every other day even if I'm sore?

5) How do you stretch your calves?
-I've tried stretching them like how I was instructed by my teacher but I've never felt the 'pull' that I do with my other stretches..


Thank you so much for this thread!! I've learnt so much. I hope you get well soon smile.gif
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 04:03 AM

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Hi!

I'm 5'3" and 120lbs. I used to swim a lot, but quit once I started college. I just want to get some help with the following things:

1) I'd like to tone up my midsection, my legs, and my arms, but don't have access to a gym. I have a treadmill at home and I've tried road running, but I've gotten injured from running (tendonitis in my ankles, knees, etc.) so many times that my dad tells me that I should stop running and start cycling instead (less hi-impact). What do you think? Do you have any other aerobic or cardio excercises that you would recommend?

2) Though I've stopped swimming, I still eat like a swimmer, which means TONS of carbs! I've tried eating smaller portions more frequently, but I end up just eating a lot of snacks. crazy.gif Also, do you have any suggestions for planning a relatively inexpensive but healthy diet for someone who is going to live in her own apartment soon? (No more dorm food! Yay!)

3)Like so many other girls, or I'm assuming they're girls, I'm very self conscious about my calves, because I have fairly toned thighs, but my calves are the same size. I know that you recommended calf raises, but can you give me a link on how to those at home without any excercie machines?

Thanks for taking your time to answer all these questions!
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Hi there!

I personally like to run, however, the reason you can suffer injury from running is from not running in the correct posture, and that will eventually lead to lower back pain, knees, ankles, etc. Check your shoes also, having the correct shoes size usually do wonders, about 1/2 inch bigger then normally for tennis or running shoes. Check your feet as well with a podiatrist, do you have pronated feet? are you flat footed? etc. Knowing these things will help you with your running and overall condition of your health. I would also like to recommend glucosamine tablets for you tendonitis. Glucosamine is an amino sugar that actually helps your joints by limiting pain and help increase the comfort joint and muscle cartlidges. There are tons of different aerobic exercises you can do, running ont he eliptical is great, so are step-classes, jump roping, since the weather is so nice try sprint swimming <<<<that is a killer! (since your a swimmer I'm guessing you already know that)happy.gif

Honestly to tell you the truth, eating healthy is not cheap and it can quite get expensive at times. Usually your going to need high protein and high fiber foods and that can actually chip your wallet pretty good. So imo your really going to have to spend some cheese on getting quality food. happy.gif

Well from home you can just do the standing calf raises if you got no equipment avaliable to you whatsoever.

http://walking.about.com/library/walk/blexcalf.htm

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QUOTE(xcuriousxgirlx @ May 15 2007, 08:13 PM) View Post
sweet =)
Hi!
i'm 5'2
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trying to tone up my stomach
i joined a gym last month
no clue what to do


Hi.

Please look through pages 2-4, you will find answers to this question in detail if you check those pages smile.gif

QUOTE(ilovesuperjunior @ May 15 2007, 08:22 PM) View Post
5'1" and my weight is ___. refuse to say. anyways, i really want to tone my stomach, thighs, and calves.
im thinking about waking up early to go on a 30 minute run before school. is that a good idea? anyother ways i can tone those areas?


You would want to eat something before you do that run though. You need to eat some slow digesting carbs before any workout cause you can't exercise on an empty fuel, you need something in the tank to burn. Toning definition comes from a good diet and cardio, you need to do the weight training though to build muscle so you can burn more calories and actually have a defined look, you can't just do cardio.

Also please check pages 16-18, there you'll find some more answers in detail to that specific questions about your abs and such. happy.gif
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 04:39 AM

QUOTE(funfunfun4every1 @ May 15 2007, 11:29 PM) View Post
Wow I went through 20 pages of reading all your replies and honestly I'm so motivated. I've got a few questions that weren't answered (while I was looking through them I found so much repeated questions that pissed me off.. I mean people just can't look through the thread, can they?)

I might be the only girl in this thread that is trying to bulk up.. Not like scary body builder women though.. I need strength and muscle endurance for sports.

1) Is it good to do cardio everyday?
- This is because I push myself to the limits everytime I run and the next day my calves and hamstrings are hella sore. But I know I'd get used to this speed sooner or later but I'm worried that I'll screw up my muscles because I've read that you must let your muscles rest or else you're screwed.

2) How long do you wait between sets?
-When I wait 30-60 seconds I gotta do pyramid sets. Like the type where you do 10 in the beginning, then second time you do 8, third time you do even less. Is it more effective to do all of your reps the same but have a longer time interval between them?

3) Do you have to stretch after you work out?
-After a workout I am extremely tired and usually I can't do anything but lie on the mats in starfish position so I usually don't stretch.. Which leads us into the next question.

4) Is being sore okay?
-I'm usually extremely sore after a workout. People tell me that if I stretch properly I wouldn't be sore at all. Should I still work out every other day even if I'm sore?

5) How do you stretch your calves?
-I've tried stretching them like how I was instructed by my teacher but I've never felt the 'pull' that I do with my other stretches..
Thank you so much for this thread!! I've learnt so much. I hope you get well soon smile.gif


Lol, it's quite alright, I know people find it exhausting to go through the all the pages sometimes, especially on a topic quite as long as this one, but I'm glad you went through them and I'm glad you got some new questions for me. biggrin.gif

1. It's honestly quite difficult to maintain a program where you gain muscle gains while not neglecting your cardio and vice versa, usually you would want to do one or another first.

But Yes, it's ok to do cardio everyday if your training for a long distance compeititions or specifically trying to get lean, but is it ok to do cardio everyday for strength training and to build muscle mass? No. Generally you would want to do cardio about 3-4 times a week about 30-45min each session inbetween your weight training days. Any more then this and you'll seriously jeopardize your strength and muscle gains, and trust me on this from personal experience. Cardio overtraining is very common. Example, when you train with weights for an hour or so and do cardio an hour so with no rest, your muscles start to deteriorate as your body needs energy, and when the calories are all spent your body will go straight to where your healthy fats are stored and also targets your muscles, feeding off the tissue from it to get that energy it needs.

2. For mass, you tend to want to rest 2-3 minutes. Generally rest periods of these are likely to do with weight training that involves heavy muscle groups and/or olympic/powerlifting exercises. Strength and endurance; you need to separate the two specifically if you want to concentrate on each subject. There are exercises and programs that uses a method that can help in both categories but not to it's maximum as it's potential is limited. If you want explosive strength go heavy, and no you won't get 'bulky' as it is nearly impossible for women to get that stature of a physique unlesss they are on human growth hormone. Women just do that have that much testosterone and you women have certain homorones that conflict to gain that massive size. I would recommend you lift a weight where you can do 4-6reps each. And I hope your going up on the pyramid training and not down (I.E Bench press exercise 1st set=125pds at 12reps, 2nd set=185pds at 10reps, 3rd set= 225pds at 6reps, etc)

Now for endurance, you want to decrease the weight and increase the rep. The rep range for endurance is actually around 16-24reps, this is genearlly alot, for me personally on endurance, I usually do around 12-16reps. This is where you can rest about 30sec-60sec and incorporate drop sets as well that can also help you in the strength category as well. But beware as this training will cause great muscle fatigue and injury can be common if you don't becareful or go too fast.

3. Yes, it is important to relax and stretch before and after workouts. Now I understand that somedays you are dead tired and it's ok if you don't want to do it( I'm do it do, everybody does happy.gif), but generally it is good for to remotely stretch a little bit after workouts. Now you don't need to stretch your entire body like you would before exercising but just the the body parts you worked on after all the lifting.

4. No that's not true, stretching will not benefit you and help prevent you from getting sore. We get sore because our muscle tissues are destroyed and trying to repair after a hard intense workout. If your sore, do not work on the same area again the next day. This leads to overtraining and it can hurt you down the long line and completely screw up your program. The abs however has the most fastest recovery rate of any muscle group in our entire body and generally you can work them out in a couple of days again, but that won't work on your other body parts. Me, personally, when I work out a body part, I won't be able to touch it again for an entire week cause their so fried. My abs, like I said recovers alot quicker so I can hit them again in a couple days. The calves recover a bit quicker as well, but not as fast as abs and not fast enough to actually hit them 3 times a week, I can hit my calves on tuesdsay and they will be fully recovered where I can hit them again on sat or sun.

5. It's hard to actually explain it to without actually showing it to you, but there's a good amount of stretches you can do to your calves and their awesome, here's some of my favorites, I hope these animated pictures would be of help.

http://tms.ecol.net/Fitness/calfstr.htm

http://www.walkinghealthy.com/Stretching/CalfStretches01.asp

http://walking.about.com/cs/rwtechnique/a/rwcalfstretch.htm

There's one calf stretch I like to do but I can't find a picture of it so I'll try to explain it to you. Do the same thing, put your hands up against the wall, but put one leg forward (if you have something you can pull on and support your weight, you can use both legs at the same time) and take that leg and put your heel to the ground, toes pointed upward towards your face and slowly lean. This is a great stretch. Another one is where you can find a step or a stair, grab on to the rails and put your toes on the ledge while your heels are hanging off the step, and slow pull your heels down to the ground while your toes are still on the step pointed upwards, hope this made sense, lol it's hard without an illustration.

Anyways, hope this helped, pm me if you have anymore questions. happy.gif
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:51 AM

QUOTE(Nojeel @ May 15 2007, 06:48 AM) View Post
Try to stay away from junk food, and start eating whole foods. You don't want to eat just anything and everything, you need to consume more calories but with good source of fiber, carbs, fat and protein as well.
Try adjusting your diet, you don't great equipment to get great results. The treadmill is great but you must do more weight lifting. Try to make some time to go to a gym, it's a whole lot cheaper then buying all the neccessary equipment for home when you can go to a gym for a month with all the equipment for the same price as buying a 30pd dumbbell.
Nah, it shouldn't take too long, I'm actually healing surprising quickly. You come to hot springs for haircuts? lol, long drive, you must really like your stylist. biggrin.gif


muzu muzu salon tongue.gif the guy there knows how to deal with asian hair. all the other salons ive been too are crap so if i want a good haircut ill drive down there. plus i used to attend ASMSA down there and hotsprings is an interesting city in the first place, so im cool with heading there every now and then. which sushi resaurant do you go to in hotsprings?

also, i was reading through the HIIT program again and it has 3 different hm.. "schedules" as you can put it for bulking, cutting, or increasing endurance. is it possible to merge 2 of them together? or should i only work on 1 at a time
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:28 AM

QUOTE(ONe.ShoT @ May 16 2007, 11:51 AM) View Post
muzu muzu salon tongue.gif the guy there knows how to deal with asian hair. all the other salons ive been too are crap so if i want a good haircut ill drive down there. plus i used to attend ASMSA down there and hotsprings is an interesting city in the first place, so im cool with heading there every now and then. which sushi resaurant do you go to in hotsprings?

also, i was reading through the HIIT program again and it has 3 different hm.. "schedules" as you can put it for bulking, cutting, or increasing endurance. is it possible to merge 2 of them together? or should i only work on 1 at a time


I used to go to Fuji on Grand Ave. but now I go to Osaka on Central ave. I know the owner's there and the sushi chef there is awesome! Muzu Muzu salon? never heard of it, smile.gif Shouldn't there be someone in Little Rock who can style your hair the 'asian' way? There's a good amount of asians in little rock, i thought? Are you korean? mellow.gif

Honestly, you should just stick to one of the program, the HIIT program is mainly for an intense cardio routine that's mainly concentrated on adding more definition and to increase endurance, I really never heard of anyone use it as a 'bulking' method really.
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 12:55 PM

i dont know of ne gym near by. the only gym i know of is one on post (army base). and neither of my parents are in the army. so i cant go to the gym. so i dont have ne place to work out. do u know of nething u dont need a gym for?
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 05:06 PM

QUOTE(Nojeel @ May 16 2007, 07:03 AM) View Post
Please look through pages 2-4, you will find answers to this question in detail if you check those pages smile.gif
You would want to eat something before you do that run though. You need to eat some slow digesting carbs before any workout cause you can't exercise on an empty fuel, you need something in the tank to burn. Toning definition comes from a good diet and cardio, you need to do the weight training though to build muscle so you can burn more calories and actually have a defined look, you can't just do cardio.

Also please check pages 16-18, there you'll find some more answers in detail to that specific questions about your abs and such. happy.gif


alright. what do you suggest i eat? and if i want to lose like 20-25 lbs... that'll probably take a really long time right?


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Posted 16 May 2007 - 05:24 PM

will lunges make my calves bigger ? because i really don't want it to be bigger T_T its already so huge!!!!!!! D:
and how can i know how much calories i am taking in ? O_O
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Post icon  Posted 16 May 2007 - 06:23 PM

hi,
i started looking through the pages but it was just so much...
so my question might be repetitive. if it is, feel free to ignore or refer me to a page.

i'm 5'5 and about 150 lbs. and trying to lose 20ish or more pounds. i used to play sports year long in high school, and college totally threw me off.
I started this about 3-4 weeks ago, but I basically run 3-4 miles (30-45 mins) four times a week, and then I do core workout afterwards (crunches, leg lifts, etc.). And I've been eating proportionately (although its hard to keep track of exact calories with dorm food =_=) with about 5 small meals a day (and nothing from the grill thats greasy).

I'm sure I need to be patient to get back into the shape I was in, but I was wondering what else I should do (working out wise) or what would be more effective. (plus of course I would like to lose the weight as soon as possible and I haven't been really seeing results) I need to lose weight overall, but especially in the hips, stomach, and back.

thanks a bunch for your time. you're helping tons of people.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 06:50 PM

QUOTE(krnluvchica @ May 16 2007, 03:55 PM) View Post
i dont know of ne gym near by. the only gym i know of is one on post (army base). and neither of my parents are in the army. so i cant go to the gym. so i dont have ne place to work out. do u know of nething u dont need a gym for?


Work out at home, you can do workout videos, yoga, jump rope, natural workouts (i.e pushups, crunches, dips, chin ups, squats, etc.)

QUOTE(ilovesuperjunior @ May 16 2007, 08:06 PM) View Post
alright. what do you suggest i eat? and if i want to lose like 20-25 lbs... that'll probably take a really long time right?


Yes and no. It depends on what your bodyweight is right now and your fat%. Generally someone who has a high percentage of fat will be able to lose fat alot faster then someone who doesn't have as much.

The slow digesting carbs you should eat includes yams, wild rice, beans, oats, fruits, cottage cheese, apricots, milk, yogurt, brown rice, soy beverages, boiled potato, almost all dairy etc.

QUOTE(Mushroomx3 @ May 16 2007, 08:24 PM) View Post
will lunges make my calves bigger ? because i really don't want it to be bigger T_T its already so huge!!!!!!! D:
and how can i know how much calories i am taking in ? O_O


No, lunges are a solid workout for your entire legs, they will not makey our calves bigger. It is probably the second best leg workout behind squats. The main focus for the lunge exercise is primarily aimed for your hamstrings, it works the quads as well but the concentration is more at the hamstrings.

Use this calculator to help you calculate your calorie intake.

http://www.muscletech.com/CALCULATORS/CALO...ator.shtml?text
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE(downwithlove @ May 16 2007, 09:23 PM) View Post
hi,
i started looking through the pages but it was just so much...
so my question might be repetitive. if it is, feel free to ignore or refer me to a page.

i'm 5'5 and about 150 lbs. and trying to lose 20ish or more pounds. i used to play sports year long in high school, and college totally threw me off.
I started this about 3-4 weeks ago, but I basically run 3-4 miles (30-45 mins) four times a week, and then I do core workout afterwards (crunches, leg lifts, etc.). And I've been eating proportionately (although its hard to keep track of exact calories with dorm food =_=) with about 5 small meals a day (and nothing from the grill thats greasy).

I'm sure I need to be patient to get back into the shape I was in, but I was wondering what else I should do (working out wise) or what would be more effective. (plus of course I would like to lose the weight as soon as possible and I haven't been really seeing results) I need to lose weight overall, but especially in the hips, stomach, and back.

thanks a bunch for your time. you're helping tons of people.


You need to be doing other weight training besides just doing core training. You do core training to help you to become more stablized when doing your other weight training on different body parts. I see your eating proportionately, but you really need to add more nutrients to your diets. Are you getting the right amount of protein/carbs/fats in your body? Are consuming enough water also? Your diet is so important, alot of people don't realize but every little thing you eat and what time you consume those foods effects you in some way. Starting to cook your own meals all the time is very important, it sucks, but it's diffcult to get all the nutrients you need from take out or just 'whatever's avaliable' happy.gif
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 07:32 PM

Hi, I'm 5"1 and weight around 125 pounds. I'm trying to lose at least 15 pounds by July 14. It is possible to lose that much in that amount of time? XD I don't eat breakfast everyday caz I dont have time and I only eat lunch at school and dinner at home. I just started running and walking 5 laps each around my apartment for like 30-40 min in the last 3 days. (does it make my claves muscular if i run that much everyday?) does running help lose that much weight in that amount of time? is there any extra exercises I need to do to in order to reach my goal weight? I also want to slim down my thighs, claves, shoulders and waist. I'm currently a freshman in my high school and is in school most of the days and I got exams coming up so is there any type of excerise that takes only 20 mins or less to traget those areas? please help me out. x.x
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 07:42 PM

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Hi, I'm 5"1 and weight around 125 pounds. I'm trying to lose at least 15 pounds by July 14. It is possible to lose that much in that amount of time? XD I don't eat breakfast everyday caz I dont have time and I only eat lunch at school and dinner at home. I just started running and walking 5 laps each around my apartment for like 30-40 min in the last 3 days. does running help lose that much weight in that amount of time? is there any extra exercises I need to do to in order to reach my goal weight? I also want to slim down my thighs, claves, shoulders and waist. I'm currently a freshman in my high school and is in school most of the days and I got exams coming up so is there any type of excerise that takes only 20 mins or less to traget those areas? please help me out. x.x


That is quite difficult for a girl your size, as you are pretty petite as it is. Even though it is 2 months, and you would naturally think that is plenty of time, but in realistically, that is very hard to lose that much weight (cause of your height) and fat and actually be at a level you want. But what I can say is you will be able to notice a difference and see some small results if you actually be consistent with your weight/aerobic training and dieting. You can't just slim down your thighs, calves, shoulders, and waist specifically, when you lose body fat, your losing it from everywhere, we burn calories throughout our whole body, you can do all the crunches you want, but it's not going to get toned from doing millions of situps.

You need to eat breakfast everyday, you need to be consuming around 6-8 times daily, small portioned meals throughout the entire day; and each meal should have a set amount of carbs/fats/protein. Doing eliptical training exercises are great if your short on time, you can burn up to around 220-300calories in those 20min depending on the level of intensity you perform the exercise on.
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:14 PM

i dont like to be to big cuz then i lose speed, and speed is very important to me during a street fight ...... i get in fights alot. so i just lift 35 lb dumbbells to keep nice form on my arm, ill start building up more muscle by lifting heavier things soon i will probably do it slowly so i cant defeat my opponents with power and speed =D SHHII SHHII SHHAWWWW
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:47 PM

Hello!
wow 21 pages! you should dub yourself the official soompi fitness trainer!
haha

well anyways, I'm also 5"1 and around 125 lbs,
and I run cross country and track, plus i like to bedroom rave, so my calves and thighs are a a bit larger than most. but my thighs still have fat. how can i trim that down? (sorry if you've answered this already I'm just busy and can't go through all 21 pages) when I walk, my thighs rub against each other and I don't like that feeling when wearing skirts. what workouts can i do? should I keep distance running? I have a pretty steady diet except for going chocolate every now and then which screws up my trying to lose weight.




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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:49 PM

I do crunches & situps, but my stomach looks the same.

What can I do that will make my stomach flat?

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:41 PM

Hi there!

The areas that I would like to work on are my abs and obliques. Over the course of 5 months of weight training (3 to 4 sessions a week targeting most muscle groups except for abs) and increased caloric intake, I've managed to gain about 15 pounds of muscle. However, I've also recently plateaued at about 150 pounds.

My question is: what should I do in order to get that six-pack and decrease body fat while also continuing to gain muscle mass?

Thanks for all your help.
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 07:25 AM

oh thank you! happy.gif buti meant like , how do i know how much calorie is in my food? like the things i cook and stuff there are no labels :{
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:42 PM

hey thanks so much for making this thread. your so awesome.
ok so..

i've been working out a lot lately...running, cardio, abs, etc etc...
and i definately see refinement in my calves...but having already muscular calves i really don't want them to get bigger.
so my question is...if i run or do jumprope, will they keep getting bigger?

how do i slim them down? i hate my overly-muscular calves.
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE(ashleyx @ May 16 2007, 09:49 PM) View Post
I do crunches & situps, but my stomach looks the same.

What can I do that will make my stomach flat?



Doing crunches and situps alone won't make your stomach "flat".

You probably need to add a bit of cardio in your workout too :X , and also eat well

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