[watcher]

Did anyone in here major in computer science? Do you think it's necessary for me to learn more java/c++ than what's taught? Or to put it another way, can I get a job with what I learn in school only?

you can find entry level positions, but if you want the higher level positions, you'll have to expand your skillset. what you learn in school are the basics of programming and some theory. but when you work, it's all about how you use your code to create software solutions. you'll have to get a firm grasp of building algorithms [which you might have learned in school] and use that as a basis to employ design patterns [which you might learn in school, but in most cases you'll learn on the job]. you'll also have to learn about different software frameworks and other re-useable software components to help aid you in your work.

anyways... software is constantly evolving, and so are the ways to build software. gotta keep learning to keep up in this field.

[Laxntiga]

Your education appears to be enough to land you in a graduate position in a top tier firm. Have you considered this path?

What did you do straight after completing your degree?

My GPA wasn't as high as I wanted. I graduated with a 3.0 in econ and a 3.4 in Chinese, cummulative I think I had a 3.1.

Right after I graduated I got recruited into a Korean company (top 5 in Korea) that had a branch in NJ. I traded steel for a year and then left because the atmosphere was a bit different from what I was used to.

A LOT of people have been getting laid off. The majority of my friends who went into banking/finance were laid off. Only the kids who got into Bloomberg are still on salary.

What do you do Pogichinoy?

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[Laxntiga]

I think illegal marriage is better pay off, I hear they start around 80k. You get 40k first and then the other 40 after the significant other gets their green card.

lol i keed i keed (not about the 80k though).

[Pogichinoy]

My GPA wasn't as high as I wanted. I graduated with a 3.0 in econ and a 3.4 in Chinese, cummulative I think I had a 3.1.

Right after I graduated I got recruited into a Korean company (top 5 in Korea) that had a branch in NJ. I traded steel for a year and then left because the atmosphere was a bit different from what I was used to.

A LOT of people have been getting laid off. The majority of my friends who went into banking/finance were laid off. Only the kids who got into Bloomberg are still on salary.

What do you do Pogichinoy?

I graduated with a bach in IT, majoring in ebusiness, and systems analysis.

I work for an engineering consultancy firm, Australian, but located international in a multitude of locations. Working in finance IT as a BA. Nothing flash, just doing my part, working up the ladder. According to our CEO, the company will be stable for the next 3 years at least, from what I've seen in our IT dept, theres been hiring and no one being laid off.

My plan is to stay here for 1 more year at least, if I'm not pleased with the working conditions, I'm jumping ship. So far so good though, for the time being I want more responsibilities and challenges.

None of my friends have lost their jobs yet, but I hear of many middle management positions being lost. Maybe the crisis has yet to hit our shores here.

[Laxntiga]

Yeahhhh IT is hot. Just watch out your job doesn't get outsourced to India.

[Pogichinoy]

Meh >_<

IT is ok, but I wish I had worked harder and chose a different course, getting bored here. Doubt I'd be outsourced, but I want to do something more interesting, or perhaps working as an ex-pat. That would be cool.

[kitty_N]

anyone with a bachelors working for a social services position? i want to get into social work/case management for right now. i know its rare to find this sort of job w/o msw but i really want to get some experience in the field before i actually do my msw. anything would help right now

[HSuke]

Yeahhhh IT is hot. Just watch out your job doesn't get outsourced to India.

IT is hot? Is it really? Everyday I hear about tech companies laying off huge percentages of their work force. The IT sector is entirely dependent on the needs of its customers. Without them, we don't have a job. But then, you might be right. Technology is becoming more and more specialized and complex.

I work in IT. My company's quite stable, if not a little too hiring-happy. Considering that its employee stay there for an average 8+ years, I don't think I'll be switching jobs anytime soon. Unfortunately, that means I won't be able to get raises as quickly. =(

[Laxntiga]

IT's a hella more secure than finance jobs.

[HSuke]

IT's a hella more secure than finance jobs.

That's like saying is swallowing knives is much safer than playing Russian roulette. Both are dangerous; it's just that one is much more so than the other.

Among jobs, high tech companies have rather high turnover and layoff rates. My dad's never stayed in the same job for more than 5 years. He's averaged around 2-3 years per company each time.

[gummybummy]

Hey guys,
just wanted to ask for some advice on the jobfront. I recently got offered a job within a fairly large company, but during the interview the lady that was conducting the interview said that I was overqualified for this position, but I said I did not mind that(seeing as the financial crisis has attributed to a bad jobmarket and unemployment).

So, is it better for me to just take the job even though I am overqualified, and I am sure it won't pay that much since it is a entry level position.
Or, should I risk it and wait for a better job and pay, even though I don't know when that is going to be. I don't want to be stuck doing a job that I feel is "beneath" me, if you know what I mean

What would you guys do if you were me???

[Laxntiga]

Hey guys,
just wanted to ask for some advice on the jobfront. I recently got offered a job within a fairly large company, but during the interview the lady that was conducting the interview said that I was overqualified for this position, but I said I did not mind that(seeing as the financial crisis has attributed to a bad jobmarket and unemployment).

So, is it better for me to just take the job even though I am overqualified, and I am sure it won't pay that much since it is a entry level position.
Or, should I risk it and wait for a better job and pay, even though I don't know when that is going to be. I don't want to be stuck doing a job that I feel is "beneath" me, if you know what I mean

What would you guys do if you were me???

I would take it, do it well, wait for better time to ask for a promotion and a raise.

You could always just work there and keep looking for something you really want.

[watcher]

Hey guys,
just wanted to ask for some advice on the jobfront. I recently got offered a job within a fairly large company, but during the interview the lady that was conducting the interview said that I was overqualified for this position, but I said I did not mind that(seeing as the financial crisis has attributed to a bad jobmarket and unemployment).

So, is it better for me to just take the job even though I am overqualified, and I am sure it won't pay that much since it is a entry level position.
Or, should I risk it and wait for a better job and pay, even though I don't know when that is going to be. I don't want to be stuck doing a job that I feel is "beneath" me, if you know what I mean

What would you guys do if you were me???

depends on your field of work

[zeram]

anyone with a bachelors working for a social services position? i want to get into social work/case management for right now. i know its rare to find this sort of job w/o msw but i really want to get some experience in the field before i actually do my msw. anything would help right now

I'm not in this field but it seems like the Association for Child Services (in NYC gov.) is constantly recruiting. This was a few years ago but I knew of someone who worked there with B.A. and they partially/fully? funded here MSW. I would think other large cities do the same--- probably more so since I imagine current economic stresses adds a lot of stress to families now-a-days and we need child protective services even more.

[gummybummy]

Thanks for your advice Laxntiga, I took the job, and I am gonna keep on searching for others as well, but who knows maybe I will like it.
But I'm wondering how long do you have to work at a company before you ask for a promotion?? Are there any guidelines to that...

[watcher]

Thanks for your advice Laxntiga, I took the job, and I am gonna keep on searching for others as well, but who knows maybe I will like it.
But I'm wondering how long do you have to work at a company before you ask for a promotion?? Are there any guidelines to that...

ask for a bi-annual performance review. this gives them a chance to assess your skills, and if you are good enough, you can ask to get your roles expanded. by the end of the year, assuming you have your 2nd successful review, you can request for something more, which should end up in a promotion or at least some kind of raise. if the company still doesn't present to you those options, then you can explicitly ask for it, but be sure to make your case.

however, be sure to check the status of the company. economy is rough, and if the company is sinking, it wont have more money to give you. and then you'll come with a choice to stick around till better times come, or find another place that will compensate your worth as well as allow you to keep growing.

the important part is constant communication and good work on your part. if you do it well, you may get your promotion sooner than later.

[gummybummy]

Thanks Watcher, I will ask for that when I start working. Yeah I guess it will be hard asking for a raise or promotion in these times. All I see in the papers now a days is how so many companies are downsizing and laying of thousands of employees. I feel really bad for people that are loosing their jobs, even in the news there was a situation where a familydad lost his job so he killed his entire family of 5 because he could not provide for them anymore

But for now I am satisfied with what I got.

[theedqueen]

blergh. I'm trying to apply for internships and now I want to shoot myself. The application process requires you to apply online through my school's career website, which I'm trying to do, but it's not letting me because my major doesn't match the one they're looking for. Oh and tonight is the due date. Why did I wait so long? Because I've been trying to perfect my resume and cover letter and some of the people who have been helping me only got back to me just this week. Why didn't I know about this sooner? Because I've applied to the companies that have done this a couple months ago and I was allowed to apply back then, I assumed it would be the same situation now. I guess because of the economy they're being way more restrictive. Thank goodness not all of them are doing this, but with this economy I wanted to apply to every single possible option. Now I'm freaking out and hitting myself for being so stupid >_<#

[watcher]

^ keep your head up and keep searching! good luck!