[inside]

it seems to me of all the asian countries Filipino's have the less pride of being Filipino, not saying all Filipinos have an inferior complex but in general it is sad to say it quite true.

I not trying to be judgemental, but if you have any sort of European blood, in the eyes of a filipino your status automatically rises. Philipines is a very poor country so in order to escape poverty they generally will marry a man of european descent to save them, I can't help but of 9/10 of Filipina women I have meet try to cling onto any sort of white man they can find. They said they see the european men as their saviour a way to escape and into a better life. One Filipina women said that "it is better than marry a Filipino man, all they do is drink beer and unemployment for 6 months of year".

Of course this is not true with all Filipina women, I have meet some independent Filipina who believes that marrying a man is not the only means of escape. But I had to say the sterotype of filipinos and their their inferior complex goes more than skin deep.

Why is it always, a grandparents always take great pride and honour to parade their mixed grandchildren but at the same time shun their full blooded grandchildren? And why is 99% of the Philippines celebrities are mixed european? We hardly see a celebrity that is full filipino.

I mean this is nothing new to anyone, but what do you think of People of the Philipines and their quest to be white?

[x ALWAYSPiNAY]

Wow, I've never come across this situation before, but I'm guessing it has to do with the Spaniards and Americans occupying the Philippines for long periods of time?

For me, I don't really try to avoid Filipinos, but end up doing it anyways. Filipinos lack a distinct culture.. Their modern culture consists mainly of American influence. There's not even a way to say "Hello." It's mainly just "Kumusta Ka?" or literally, "Hello." I guess that bugs me in a way. :|
Plus I don't go for Europeans. Hah, I'm guessing this doesn't really apply to me then, huh?

[MUGETSU]

hahahaha here we go...though this might be in the wrong section.

Yes, there is a problem with inferiority and "colonial mentality"

When over half the women of your country marry outside their own ethnicity - SOMETHING has to be going on. It just can't all be explained by "love and attraction".

Don't really know what to say, but that's just how they think. I can't change the way they perceive the white man as their saviors, as messed up as it is. I don't see women of other 3rd world countries throwing themselves at white people to be saved.

The Philippines was never that poor before (corrupt politicians starting in the 60s led to its downfall as an Asian power). It's actually looking up, the peso is getting stronger.

This question is always brought up in discussions about issues that the Philippines and Filipinos face.

This kind of mentality is destroying the country.

[joolee.]

Wow, I was never aware that there was such a situation going on. But I can see their point in doing so, it makes sense in a way. Everybody wants a better life and if it's to marry an European man, so be it. I'm sure there are a few Filipino men whom are successful also.

[Stevent]

What do you expect? The white man is always portrayed as the powerholder and people in low poverty parts of the world will strive to marry a white person to have their fair share of the wealth. As you said, it's nothing new, but with this kind of mentality it leaves no room for any other ethnicity to match up or even come close to that as a white person.

[ChunJin]

I remember watching Wowowee (I hate this show so much) with my mom and they were showing a thing with foreigners. Seems like a lot of Filipinas are marrying Australians/Americans/Canadians. That doesn't bother me too much... with me being mixed (but it is creepy when an old white guy is with a young filipina... that just makes me sick). But I really see why they would do that... my dad has really helped my mother & her family very well. I really feel bad that my dad had to take such a burden (like my moms family needed a lot of money for surgery he sent them the money.)

It's really hard to feel good about your culture when there aren't many other idols or many other people interested in your culture. It's isolated. I don't see many Japanese, American, Korean etc. listening/watching to tagalog music/movies/shows etc.

[정유미]

imo, you're being a bit judgmental by saying "I not trying to be judg[e]mental, but if you have any sort of European blood, in the eyes of a filipino your status automatically rises." i know what you mean. it doesn't apply to ALL filipinos, just like it doesn't apply to me, but... i mean, are you sure this is really the case? personally, i live in the philippines and am filipino and i hardly see this kind of attitude/way of thinking. but yeah, i do agree that some philippine women marry foreigners to have a better life. sometimes it disgusts me, too. but it doesn't happen in the philippines only, sweetie.

oh and i don't think 99% of philippine celebs are mixed.

[bellaboo]

wowzurz, i definitely knew someone would topic about this.

i am CURRENTLY in the philippines, just moved, and this "occurence"
is very common.. because i AM a foreigner (from the US, and WOW do they love US-citizens ALSO).

it's not that i haven't thought about this, it's just that i've come to a conclusion
(which is horrible) that the philippines is corrupted. i just think
that this is another impediment that THIS society is too blame (not that isn't a bad thing,
just to take responsibility.)

;P

[sarah_luisa]

It is kinda 50% true that Filipinas this days wants to marry a white guy. I hate that.

Personally, I prefer to marry a filipino/asian guy.

I feel that white men even they love you, their family still look down on you...

Inferiority Complex>> cause there's not much non-filipino person who are interested in our culture-- cause it's probably the same as others-- mix of different culture-- chinese, european and american...

Whenever i talk about philippines with other people they just say "oh, ok" -- make me sad

[M0GA]

..i can't say the same for filipinos in mi area
i find them to be proud even to the point of feeling they are a superior race.

which is probably why mi last two boyfriends were white.

i've seen a lot of successful full-blooded filipinos. since asia prefers that lighter, paler skin, i suppose the philippines favors mixed individuals that would usually achieve lighter skin by birth.

truthfully, the only reason i would actually have a set fast preference of a white guy over a filipino guy is so mi kids wouldn't have to be short like me ;D

[angelcadex]

...I`m Filipino.
And I have no idea what you are talking about
=/

I think they do look up to Western culture though?

[hippiehop]

I think 99% of the Filipino I know are mixed.

[uruchai]

well... what can I say, my sister's boyfriend is irish/italian. and the first guy i ever dated was polish-canadian.

although, in my defense, I wasnt feeling inferior of any sort. he just happened to ask me out and i liked him

i dont know what more can I add with that "colonial mentality". i see it as well. also, when i was younger i told myself I dont wanna marry a filipino guy. for what reason? I'm not too sure. perhaps it stems from the fact that when i was still in the phil, people often joke to me to marry a "foren-jer [foreigner]" so my kids wouldn't be a midget like me. ... though my perceptions have changed a bit now.

it's indeed true with the celebrities in the country nowadays. I just feel there's this certain awe the public feels with mixed celebrities. i mean even if the actor/actress can't act, they'd still become household names.

[badboy yardy]

i'm of Korean descent and I worked abroad and lived in the Philippines for about four months. I agree to some extent about this post, but I think you're missing one huge point.

Granted, everywhere you go in the Philippines you'd see some fat, old white european or american with a young petite Filipina wrapped around his arms. I almost never saw a white guy walking by himself, i'd always see a girl half his age with him.

The point is, the Philippines is a poor country. There is a huge disparity between the rich and the poor. There also seem to be a disparity between educated men and women. Education is the start of success. I feel many Filipinas believe that their men, just aren't educated enough. This stereotype leads to the fact that Filipinas want to marry people of other ethnicities.

With this being said, it's really about success and money. For Filipino women living in the Philippines, the highest factor would consider for marriage is the success of her future spouse. That is why you see such young, pretty, smart filipinas being in the arms of her old, fat, white spouse. Being a different ethnicity almost always equate to the guy having some money hanging around his neck.

In the U.S, we'd call it "gold-digging" but in the Philippines, it's literally about survival.

Lastly, it's not about a guy being "white" the men that would get the most amount of females clamoring for them are actually rich Filipinos that are educated at the highest levels, and are successful in business. I could also add, that I've been to other Asian countries, and you see girls in Vietnam, Indonesia with the same type of older white males. It's really no different than in the Philippines, because they are all poor countries.

[ly*chee]

ROFL. Maybe for some filipinas, but thats a big generalization.
I myself am Filipina...and I've never gone for or dated a white man.
Not to say I'm racist, but if I were to date one I'm not about to look through his pocket book for how much extra change he has.

And I agree about the post of how it is survival for some. And it's not only Filipino's who do this...and actually this is news to me...since most Filipino's I know, in Canada and Philippines... don't / haven't date white men...

[xiam9]

The only reason why I'd marry a western guy is to have beautiful babies. ROLF!
Not that Filipino men can't give me one, just that mixed ethnicities are quite interesting.

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Here in the Philippines there's a huge wall dividing the rich from the poor.
Corruption and lack of quality education (NOTE: Public schools are only
attended by the poor, it is a very rare case to see even middle class people
sending there kids to public schools), are the main reasons why these poor
people doesn't progrees in life at all.
For the middle/upper class, there's always hope for us because we receive
good education. Meaning, we will always be a ble to find a job that pays enough
to support ourselves.
Poor people on the other hand don't have much to look
forward to. Sometimes, the only way they can think of to survive life
is to find someone who can give them one.

These Filipino woman doesn't marry White guys so they'd have someone
to buy them a mansion, expenive cars wtv. They do this to support their
family in the Philippines, be able to send their younger siblings to school
or have their aged mothers/grandparents sent to the hospital.

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Filipino woman/ Filipinos who struggle to find better lives abroad, believe it or not
are the PRIDE AND JOY OF OUR COUNTRY. "OFW"
We're not gold diggers,we just happen to love a family so much to the point that
we'd sacrifice everything, even our pride and dignity just to have our parents and siblings live
a much more comfortable life.

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One more thing, I don't know about Filipinos abroad, because I've never lived
anywhere oustide my country, but despite colonial mentality, Filipinos here take
great PRIDE in our culture. We love our country dearly.

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Forgive my random paragraphs.

[wasabi29]

i'm of Korean descent and I worked abroad and lived in the Philippines for about four months. I agree to some extent about this post, but I think you're missing one huge point.

Granted, everywhere you go in the Philippines you'd see some fat, old white european or american with a young petite Filipina wrapped around his arms. I almost never saw a white guy walking by himself, i'd always see a girl half his age with him.

The point is, the Philippines is a poor country. There is a huge disparity between the rich and the poor. There also seem to be a disparity between educated men and women. Education is the start of success. I feel many Filipinas believe that their men, just aren't educated enough. This stereotype leads to the fact that Filipinas want to marry people of other ethnicities.

With this being said, it's really about success and money. For Filipino women living in the Philippines, the highest factor would consider for marriage is the success of her future spouse. That is why you see such young, pretty, smart filipinas being in the arms of her old, fat, white spouse. Being a different ethnicity almost always equate to the guy having some money hanging around his neck.

In the U.S, we'd call it "gold-digging" but in the Philippines, it's literally about survival.

Lastly, it's not about a guy being "white" the men that would get the most amount of females clamoring for them are actually rich Filipinos that are educated at the highest levels, and are successful in business. I could also add, that I've been to other Asian countries, and you see girls in Vietnam, Indonesia with the same type of older white males. It's really no different than in the Philippines, because they are all poor countries.

Ditto.

[liliduh]

Well, let me be another notch on that belt labeled "non-stereotypical."

I'm not surprised by this thread since it's true to some extent. It's already been mentioned, but it's important to remember that the Philippines isn't the only country that clings to the white male ideology. Richer Fililipinos are expected to have light, white skin - either because they don't work outside under the sun or they try and use those whitening lotions. It's seen as more attractive, and I'm guessing it's due the fact that the only successful people are white to some brown eyes. As for the famous artists, who are are you talking about? Regine Velasquez and Lea Salonga are pretty puti (white), but that's skin, man. It doesn't change the fact that they are heavy in the Filipino blood. (Heh. I think dark skin is attractive like crazy, though.)

That and absolutely no one is pure anything if you look at their roots extensively. I'm not saying we're all from Africa at this point, but we're all mixed to some degree and it's not out fault our genes decided to hide some of it.

If you're poor, you struggle to survive to make ends meet -- even if it means marrying someone of a different color. That's how it works for some people because from what they've experienced, there's no other way. By that I mean, the Fillipinos aren't the only ones who do it. Most definitely not.

I got pride, yes I do, I got pride like OD, foo. Like you won't believe. There aren't many Filipinos in my areas, so I do my best to be explosive in my culture - and yes, we do have a culture. Every culture borrows from another, but there are definitely some distinct features about the Filipino community that others do not have. My old-roomy goes "BAKIT WHY" to me now. LMAO.

As for my interests in guys? Dude, personality. That's all. 8D

Well, now I'm just rambling. I'm pretty sick right now but this thread presented a new topic for me to re-explore, lol.

[Tailo]

As anyone can see, so far, there are many mixed feelings about this topic. This goes to show that the original issue is not concrete, nor is everyone aware of it.

If you ask any random Pilipino anywhere in the world if they're proud to be Pilipino, more often than not, they'll be the proudest of all ethnicities. (I say 'more often than not' because as for myself, I have a love/hate about being Pilipino.) But being proud about being Pilipino has its limitations. Ask them why their proud and it'll be difficult to answer.

The case with the Philippines and its people is not an isolated case. Think of the U.S. as well. Think of what influences people's thinking. Many attribute it to the media: television, movies, magazines, newspapers, etc. The popular culture tends to sway the populace. It's the same in the Philippines--and it's a whole cycle. The people think that white/mestiz@ is good, so the media perpetuates it in the people they hire and the topics they cover, so more people see it and think the same way.

It's true, and I firmly believe this, that the Philippines' colonial history is heavily responsible for the current way of life and current attitudes of the people. The Spanish brought religion and created this culturally-based Christianity. Then, the U.S. came and replaced the Spaniards: they committed a form of cultural genocide (along with physical genocide) and began teaching English in public schools, and started molding the minds of the people that the 'Americans' were the "good guys," the "saviors." The U.S. gave the Philippines their salvation. They "saved" us from the Spanish and "saved" us from the Japanese. In part, they even "saved" us from Martial Law.

When most of the heroes of the Philippines comes from the 19th century, there isn't much to be proud of. The issue of Pinays marrying western personalities (U.S. white, European, etc.) is just another byproduct of the larger picture. Yes, it is survival for the poor. For the better-off, it's been imbued in their minds.

Are the white people responsible? It certainly is easy to point fingers in that direction. Are the Pilipino people responsible? It's impossible to not put responsibility on ourselves. So what's the final answer? There isn't one yet. For now, how it 'is' is how it will most likely stay for years, decades, and longer.

[( BEAUTIFUL; life )]

..i can't say the same for filipinos in mi area
i find them to be proud even to the point of feeling they are a superior race.

that's definately how they are where i'm from :x
but when they find out i'm (half) filipino then they start to warm up to me. :|
(most of them being "fobs" - the ones that were born&raised here are just like everyone else so it's like.. whatever)


but other than that.

..

idunno:x