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#1251 User is offline   kipling 

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE(Sam Sik @ Nov 14 2007, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what do you girls think of guys with...mild/medium acne? I have acne thats the type that will eventually go away after I age more. Not that reddish type that has scarred my face. So you can't really see it until you're close up. I'm not asking if you guys prefer it over clean skin. I'm wondering if you don't mind it. Thanks.


I don't mind acne as long as it's not too out of control. Honestly, I'd give him moisturizer as a gift too tongue.gif


QUOTE(HKS457 @ Nov 14 2007, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok heres the situation ladies. assuming one of your guy friends is interested in you, initially however, you didnt like him that way. but as the 2 of you talk more, you slowly find him more interesting, even tho its still not at the "liking" stage yet.

so, how long does it usually take you to develope interest in beyond just a normal friend?
i guess its hard to give an exact answer, so a range in months will work =]

second question... i guess shes been sick lately, but i m begin next nice to her (like check up on her, buy her congee (chinese porriage), medicines n stuff) so i m pretty sure she knows i m somewhat interested in her. for whatever reason, i know shes putting up some kinda wall... but she doesnt avoid me or anything...

is that a good sign (like is it going well)?? cuz some of my friends say, sometimes girls take things slower so its perfectly normal n they told me to keep it up... but because of my own personality, i sometimes think shes just being nice and dont know how to reject.. (cuz i would do the same thing in a way, just be normal about it)... so ne advice would be appreciated =]


1] Some girls are quite fickle with their feelings and like boys really quickly (and stop liking just as fast dry.gif )
For me, it takes a while to like a guy for who they are. But when I do, it takes a lot to make me stop liking him.

2] It could be either/or. If you do all these nice things for her and it seems like she's just putting up a wall, then maybe she's trying to tell you that she just wants to be friends.
However, maybe she's a shy girl. What's her personality like? If she's on the shy side, then it just might be that she's trying to take it slow first.



QUOTE(angelxglo @ Nov 14 2007, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lately, there is this guy in my lectures that i find incredibly sexxy. He's really quiet, but yet, he doesnt get lost in the crowd. theres like 80+ students in that lectuture and yet, i can spot him very easily. he sits around my radius, either infront of behind me (the classroom is quite large in size. can probably seat 100). i dunno, yesterday we had a exam, before class started, he pulled out his text book, and i saw that he indexed all his chapters thats on the exam really neatly (he sat infront of me, to my right so i can see what he's doing really easily lols) and i dunno, i find that incredibly cute! it made me smile. yet, if anyone else would've done it, i would've thought differently.

i dunno what this feeling that i'm going through is. i mean, up until a couple of weeks ago, i rarely noticed him... so what is this now?


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Posted 14 November 2007 - 09:19 PM

QUOTE(HKS457 @ Nov 14 2007, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok heres the situation ladies. assuming one of your guy friends is interested in you, initially however, you didnt like him that way. but as the 2 of you talk more, you slowly find him more interesting, even tho its still not at the "liking" stage yet.

so, how long does it usually take you to develope interest in beyond just a normal friend?
i guess its hard to give an exact answer, so a range in months will work =]

second question... i guess shes been sick lately, but i m begin next nice to her (like check up on her, buy her congee (chinese porriage), medicines n stuff) so i m pretty sure she knows i m somewhat interested in her. for whatever reason, i know shes putting up some kinda wall... but she doesnt avoid me or anything...

is that a good sign (like is it going well)?? cuz some of my friends say, sometimes girls take things slower so its perfectly normal n they told me to keep it up... but because of my own personality, i sometimes think shes just being nice and dont know how to reject.. (cuz i would do the same thing in a way, just be normal about it)... so ne advice would be appreciated =]


ok, for the first part of ur question. It all depends on the girl. She can think of you as just a friend forever. I have tons of guyfriends that i find interesting, but whom i would NEVER date. For me, looks are just as important as personality, and so if i find a guy interesting but not attractive, i will NOT date that guy. However, if a guy is average-looking (not hott/sexy, but not ugly) then i eventually see the strong points of the guy and can start feeling attracted in around 4-5 months.

i HATE it when guys pay too much attention to me. I like to work hard to achieve the guy that i want. If she likes you, she'll work to get you, so dont be too giving and too generous with ur time b/c she can just use you and not return anything. It's sweet to drop off some congee. But don't come back an hour later with medicine as well. Give sparingly, but if you do, each one will be worth so much more. And don't make it too obvious that ur interested in her. Girls tend to be attracted to guys that seem a bit unattainable. (well, i am...)


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Posted 15 November 2007 - 12:22 AM

QUOTE(chungmonkey629 @ Nov 14 2007, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it really depends on the rest of ur face lol. there are guys that have perfect skin and look absolutely horrendous. And then there are guys that look gorgeous, but have some acne.
I personally don't mind mild acne--but i get REALLY uncomfortable around guys with bad bad acne--like the pus-filled kind. it grosses the HECK out of me.
for the mild kind, that's ok. I find this guy in my math class reallly really REALLLLY attractive, and he has mild acne.



hey I was going to ask the acne question too! more girls please respond to this. Because acne really does lower your self esteem (i used to laugh at the acne awareness commercial... damn). So if you like him or he looks okay (attractiveness) then min/mild is acceptable? I still kinda have min. acne UGH(not puss-filled kind).. but it left some little scars. I keep thinking i'm ugly now hahah.
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 01:32 AM

QUOTE(HKS457 @ Nov 14 2007, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
second question... i guess shes been sick lately, but i m begin next nice to her (like check up on her, buy her congee (chinese porriage), medicines n stuff) so i m pretty sure she knows i m somewhat interested in her. for whatever reason, i know shes putting up some kinda wall... but she doesnt avoid me or anything...

is that a good sign (like is it going well)?? cuz some of my friends say, sometimes girls take things slower so its perfectly normal n they told me to keep it up... but because of my own personality, i sometimes think shes just being nice and dont know how to reject.. (cuz i would do the same thing in a way, just be normal about it)... so ne advice would be appreciated =]


I am a shy girl and if I liked the guy a lot.. and he's there for me during my sick days (bring me congee and stuff), then I don't think I'll be building a wall around him at all. Because if I build a wall at this stage (when it's obvious that he likes me), I would feel that if I don't hint or show that I appreciate him soon, I'll end up losing him. So.. no wall for me.. only if I only saw him as a friend.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE(Sam Sik @ Nov 14 2007, 03:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what do you girls think of guys with...mild/medium acne? I have acne thats the type that will eventually go away after I age more. Not that reddish type that has scarred my face. So you can't really see it until you're close up. I'm not asking if you guys prefer it over clean skin. I'm wondering if you don't mind it. Thanks.


I don't mind if a guy has mild acne.
This guy in one of my class has acne on his face..kind of a lot... but he has a cute face (as in AWW I almost want to pinch his cheeks), and if we sat near each other I wouldn't mind talking to him since he seems approachable.
I have some mild acne myself, on my T-zone, at certain times of the month *ahem*... not my fault. We're all human.



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lately, there is this guy in my lectures that i find incredibly sexxy. He's really quiet, but yet, he doesnt get lost in the crowd. theres like 80+ students in that lectuture and yet, i can spot him very easily. he sits around my radius, either infront of behind me (the classroom is quite large in size. can probably seat 100). i dunno, yesterday we had a exam, before class started, he pulled out his text book, and i saw that he indexed all his chapters thats on the exam really neatly (he sat infront of me, to my right so i can see what he's doing really easily lols) and i dunno, i find that incredibly cute! it made me smile. yet, if anyone else would've done it, i would've thought differently.

i dunno what this feeling that i'm going through is. i mean, up until a couple of weeks ago, i rarely noticed him... so what is this now?


You're interested in him?
Not something ordinary that guys do (or at least not that I'm aware of...), and he sticks out in your mind because of that! laugh.gif

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 11:37 AM

thanks for the responds megaSTEPxo, chungmonkey629, kipling (and dang i just realized i have hella typos lol)

ummm... i guess what i meant by putting up a wall is just the fact that shes not responding in a way that i want. like calls me to go hang out outside of school or something. really tho, shes busy 24/7 because she has after school activities on a daily basis. its just hard i guess that i want more, but knowing that i cant expect much. because i know anyone can make time for another as long as they are significant enough, just kinda hard for me to get started because we dont have that close of an connection to start with...


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Posted 15 November 2007 - 06:03 PM

QUOTE(HKS457 @ Nov 15 2007, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks for the responds megaSTEPxo, chungmonkey629, kipling (and dang i just realized i have hella typos lol)

ummm... i guess what i meant by putting up a wall is just the fact that shes not responding in a way that i want. like calls me to go hang out outside of school or something. really tho, shes busy 24/7 because she has after school activities on a daily basis. its just hard i guess that i want more, but knowing that i cant expect much. because i know anyone can make time for another as long as they are significant enough, just kinda hard for me to get started because we dont have that close of an connection to start with...


truthfully some girls (like myself) want guys to make the first step to hang out and such. like, for example, the guy that i like barely makes those efforts but thats just the type of person he is; it frustrates me because if guys don't make effort then it feels to girls as if there is no interest ya know? like the guy would be indifferent to whether they hung out with the girl or not. so i say just keep up your niceness and initiate the first hang out. BUT...ONE WARNING. know the line between making and effort and seeming clingy. one guy i had interest in a while ago initiated hangouts and all that stuff but ontop was TOO CLINGY..like constantly calling, constantly texting, and constantly asking when we were going to meet. be subtle and good luck :]
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 06:38 PM

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thanks for the responds megaSTEPxo, chungmonkey629, kipling (and dang i just realized i have hella typos lol)

ummm... i guess what i meant by putting up a wall is just the fact that shes not responding in a way that i want. like calls me to go hang out outside of school or something. really tho, shes busy 24/7 because she has after school activities on a daily basis. its just hard i guess that i want more, but knowing that i cant expect much. because i know anyone can make time for another as long as they are significant enough, just kinda hard for me to get started because we dont have that close of an connection to start with...


same prob here dude, the girl i like is very busy at work (like until 2330) which makes it hard for me to ask her out sleep.gif although i think that if she has interest she will try to make time for u. (same for my case i guess haha)
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Posted 19 November 2007 - 12:27 AM

HKS457.. well in this case, then I think you will have to make the initiative to ask her to hang out! Since she's so busy, simply ask her when she's available to hang out and see if she'll arrange a time. If you just ask her her schedule without indicating that you want to hang out.. then she probably won't get the hint. Yeah, like everyone said.. I am sure if she liked you enough, she'll somehow arrange a time for you. And same as xCandeex, I would definitely want a guy to initiate a meet especially on the first meet so.. you gotta make the first move lol. Maybe for the 2nd meet, you can expect her to ask you smile.gif

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Posted 19 November 2007 - 06:58 AM

hey im really puzzeled over this thing. Anyways theres this chik i kinda liked before, different unis so dont get to see each other alot druing semesters. but the thing is, during semesters breaks she always goes something like wanting to spend more time with me, hang out more etc etc so natrually i would call her out to do stuff, ie. movie, k. but when the time actually comes shes always seem to find some excuse to dog wat i called her out for. shes know i like her corse i like to be more straight foward instead of being subtle, i made it pretty obvious after we got to know each other and made friends. so the thing is, if she didnt like me, y does she not tell me instead of leading me on then dog it and if she did like me, y dog everything we planned to do.

neways ne1 got any insight into this matter? thanks in advance and appreciate it ^^
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Posted 19 November 2007 - 08:15 AM

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hey im really puzzeled over this thing. Anyways theres this chik i kinda liked before, different unis so dont get to see each other alot druing semesters. but the thing is, during semesters breaks she always goes something like wanting to spend more time with me, hang out more etc etc so natrually i would call her out to do stuff, ie. movie, k. but when the time actually comes shes always seem to find some excuse to dog wat i called her out for. shes know i like her corse i like to be more straight foward instead of being subtle, i made it pretty obvious after we got to know each other and made friends. so the thing is, if she didnt like me, y does she not tell me instead of leading me on then dog it and if she did like me, y dog everything we planned to do.

neways ne1 got any insight into this matter? thanks in advance and appreciate it ^^

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Posted 19 November 2007 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE(yellow103 @ Nov 19 2007, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey im really puzzeled over this thing. Anyways theres this chik i kinda liked before, different unis so dont get to see each other alot druing semesters. but the thing is, during semesters breaks she always goes something like wanting to spend more time with me, hang out more etc etc so natrually i would call her out to do stuff, ie. movie, k. but when the time actually comes shes always seem to find some excuse to dog wat i called her out for. shes know i like her corse i like to be more straight foward instead of being subtle, i made it pretty obvious after we got to know each other and made friends. so the thing is, if she didnt like me, y does she not tell me instead of leading me on then dog it and if she did like me, y dog everything we planned to do.

neways ne1 got any insight into this matter? thanks in advance and appreciate it ^^

In all honesty, she may just be playing around with you. She may just be making plans with you because she likes the feeling of other people wanting to hang out with her. Or she could be playing hard to get. Or she could actually just be scared of commitment like suju_fanatic said.

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Posted 19 November 2007 - 05:46 PM

thanks suju_fanatic and Joe.KuRr for the replies : )

but yeah when i say time actually comes as in liek we plan go movies or something on say tuesday, and then on the day she goes shes busy and dogs it.

anyways, im pretty sure shes not a player corse shes studies a alot and is what ppl would call "the quiet type". so i thought so was just playing around with me. but the thing is what does she get out of doing it except to get me disappointed. its really puzzling me, corse all i wanted to do was to spend some time with her and get to know her more, i dont think i pushed her into anything. but yeah thanks, this is one of the things that i never straighted out lol.
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 12:22 AM

::update and more advise needed::

i had a deep talk with her few nights ago and... here goes the convo... (right before she went to sleep)
hks457 (1:25:38 AM): nice talking to u
hks457 (1:25:53 AM): i got some stuff outta my chest = ]
GIRL (1:25:57 AM): haha
GIRL (1:26:00 AM): good, im glad
GIRL (1:26:02 AM): same here
hks457 (1:26:04 AM): really?
GIRL (1:26:15 AM): a little. cuz i wasnt sure where things were going
GIRL (1:26:35 AM): so i was like... mmmmm, i should kind of hint it
hks457 (1:26:49 AM): hint that...?
GIRL (1:27:19 AM): that we're just friends
GIRL (1:27:22 AM): at least for now
hks457 (1:27:29 AM): ya, agree
GIRL (1:27:46 AM): "cuz the last time we talked. we werent looking for anyone. and we were going to wait till transfering anyways. at least, thats still my game plan"
that whole thing ^ ^ ^
hks457 (1:27:46 AM): ^ ^
GIRL (1:27:51 AM): ya
GIRL (1:28:04 AM): so yea. i will ttyl night

when we first started talking months ago (before i got kinda interested in her) , 1 of the things we talked about were how it is better that for us individually to be in a relationship after transfer (we are both transfering fall 08, same school hopefully)

last week before this convo, she agreed to come to my place and hang out on this coming thursday morning, just to watch movie n stuff. iono how much this conversation with her changed the situation. so the question is... when shes should i flirt with her at all? or be completely normal as simply just a friend when she comes over?


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Posted 20 November 2007 - 12:53 AM

there is this girl, she got a lot of guys that want her, but she never goes out wit anyone.

a lot of my friends like her, i dont think she is ALL THAT special, she is nice and pretty tho.

w/e i stop talking to her she tells me she is sad that i stop. she turns into that needy girl, ppl tell me she never acts different then that happy smiling girl to anyone except when it comes to me.

so told her i'd take her out on a date and take her somewhere nice. she said yes, but w/e i say hurry up now or never girl, she says she is busy, so i just take someone else.

and if i ever get lazy and just stop talking to her she gets sad again.

i am to nice of a guy to turn away someone who is actualy sad, but to weak to handle things themselves, but im wondering, is she really that weak minded that she cant even skip a day of studies or other commitments to go out for a nice dinner with me when she asked many times in the past when im going to take her out or next time we are gonna do somthing special.


i am going to leave her alone soon, cuz i will help those who first help themselves and if she cant do that, then she can be alone.





also, i asked this other girl out. she was excited. and for the first time in a long time i was kinda looking forward to when it would happen, but as the days went on. i jsut couldn't set a date. for some reason i cant get myself to do it.

its not a nervousness thing, its just the opposite. why arent there any girls out there that will make me nervous? why cant anyone make my heart beat faster?

ppl complain all the time about how they hate that feeling. i never had it. why not?! im so envyous of ppl who fall in "love" and cry and cry and get hurt and scream.

i've only felt that saddness for a girl when mine died many years ago.

many ppl who kno about this problem say its probably because that incident made my heart colder and harder.

thats not fair. why is it that i can take girl's breathe away, but there is no girl out there that can take mine.

i am never alone, but there is never anyone special for me. no one i can think about all the time and turn into a total looser for.

i want to loose my cool and say dumb things i will regret. i want to get over emotional and yell and argue and get angry. i want to hug and cuddle and not get bored and yawn and look away while she isn't paying attention.

i feel like my youth has been dryed up way be4 it's time.

there should be more skillfull girl players out there who can take my heart and break it. why is it that they always give up on me, why is it that they always fail and loose their confidence? why ?
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 01:04 AM

^^
This seems more like a rant than a question.
It's obvious the problem is you and not other people.
It's you that won't let your heart surrender to love, not other girl's inability to make you fall in love.
I went through that phase before when I despised guys. When your heart is set on closing itself to the possibilites out there, you're just making it difficult for yourself. Open up and give other people a chance to love you.
And I remember when...
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 01:07 AM

so many girls had that same reputation and guess what i made them surrender to "love"

its not fair why cant a girl do that to me? why cant there be some pro ass girl who can show me that i am still very low in teh world.

show me from my own eyes. show my from my own expirence that there is still a world of ppl i still do not understand.


many times i try to force myself to like someone. i try so hard, it gets frustrating. so its not like i am not trying. i am giving my effort as hard as i can. sometimes when friends tell me. hey... dont lie to urself. she isn't the one. u kno it. and i say to them. im gonna try, cuz she likes me to much for me to leave now. im gonna try till i got no more sweat to shed or blood to spill.



many ppl guys and girls often tell me, "man, are u ever goign to get married? cuz i imagine u getting older with a bachler pad with a different girl every night"

and im like wtf that is totaly not the life i want to live. wat waste. w/e ppl say that, i guess they think they are giving a compliment, but i see it as a horrible insult. saying im not the type to raise a kid and take care of a family.

prejudge me to much sleep.gif,




oh yea. i dont dispise girls. i like them a lot. i show them a good time and even if its boring i show a smile they say "omg ur smile is so adorable, from first sight i wouldn't have guessed u had a nice happy smile"

but inside im like zzzzz


i am friendly i laugh, but when it comes time to be whooped like a love sick dog. im just like.... uh why should i do that, so i just kinda smile and motion with my head "no" and sometimes its fine for a long time. but in the end i just look at them and say to myself. i want someone else.

its not like im super shallow looking for better and better lookin ggirls. if that was the case i would have stayed with one be4 my last.

the girls who have reps as plyers of able to get teh guys, they usualy feel defeated when they realize i find no interest in them and they loose their confidence and many times end up trying to avoid.

but the other kinds of lady players that are just love attention. they are better, but they end up not feeling defeated, they end up wanting to date, but they are to busy getting attentino from toher dudes and by the time they are really rdy, im already gone and they get sad and i cant hold time still while she is doing her own little busyness.
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (HKS457 @ Nov 20 2007, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
::update and more advise needed::

i had a deep talk with her few nights ago and... here goes the convo... (right before she went to sleep)
hks457 (1:25:38 AM): nice talking to u
hks457 (1:25:53 AM): i got some stuff outta my chest = ]
GIRL (1:25:57 AM): haha
GIRL (1:26:00 AM): good, im glad
GIRL (1:26:02 AM): same here
hks457 (1:26:04 AM): really?
GIRL (1:26:15 AM): a little. cuz i wasnt sure where things were going
GIRL (1:26:35 AM): so i was like... mmmmm, i should kind of hint it
hks457 (1:26:49 AM): hint that...?
GIRL (1:27:19 AM): that we're just friends
GIRL (1:27:22 AM): at least for now
hks457 (1:27:29 AM): ya, agree
GIRL (1:27:46 AM): "cuz the last time we talked. we werent looking for anyone. and we were going to wait till transfering anyways. at least, thats still my game plan"
that whole thing ^ ^ ^
hks457 (1:27:46 AM): ^ ^
GIRL (1:27:51 AM): ya
GIRL (1:28:04 AM): so yea. i will ttyl night

when we first started talking months ago (before i got kinda interested in her) , 1 of the things we talked about were how it is better that for us individually to be in a relationship after transfer (we are both transfering fall 08, same school hopefully)

last week before this convo, she agreed to come to my place and hang out on this coming thursday morning, just to watch movie n stuff. iono how much this conversation with her changed the situation. so the question is... when shes should i flirt with her at all? or be completely normal as simply just a friend when she comes over?


n thanks again to those that replied =]

If she flirts with you then flirt back. Just don't overdo it.

Here & now is where I want to be.
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:43 PM

Hmm, so I'm really confused.
Lately, a lot of girls have been wanting me to go hang out with them or whatever.
Last week the day before we left for Thanksgiving break, I'm saying good bye to one girl and she says: "Will I be seeing you? (during the break)"
Another girl randomly hugs me when she greets me now and says that she's missed me, all the while touching my arm and such.
And another, an ex from a long while back but we're still best friends, always leans onto my body, puts her head on my shoulder and hugs me from behind and stuff.
Is this just normal, or something?
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Posted 21 November 2007 - 03:50 AM

QUOTE (mojomunkeez @ Nov 20 2007, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, so I'm really confused.
Lately, a lot of girls have been wanting me to go hang out with them or whatever.
Last week the day before we left for Thanksgiving break, I'm saying good bye to one girl and she says: "Will I be seeing you? (during the break)"
Another girl randomly hugs me when she greets me now and says that she's missed me, all the while touching my arm and such.
And another, an ex from a long while back but we're still best friends, always leans onto my body, puts her head on my shoulder and hugs me from behind and stuff.
Is this just normal, or something?


hmm i would say..
the girl who said "Will I be seeing you? (during the break)" is probably just a friendly person, just normal
the girl who hugged and said she missed you is either really flirtly or into you..but to me its more of a flirt
your ex..id say shes still interested..i dont even hug my close guy friends like that...hugging from behind id say its something alright
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