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Posted 12 July 2007 - 10:53 AM

QUOTE(pachi_A @ Jul 12 2007, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes, i've got to say that's true.
same thing i do.



do u guys(Girls) expect, the guy to kno that ? =\ man..im confused like hell hahahha

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE(hked @ Jul 12 2007, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do u guys(Girls) expect, the guy to kno that ? =\ man..im confused like hell hahahha


Girls aren't as confusing as guys. tongue.gif
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 01:40 PM

QUOTE(tropical_star91 @ Jul 12 2007, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Girls aren't as confusing as guys. tongue.gif



Uhh actually I disagree. I think girls are more confusing than guys. Girls are so complex that they think guys are complicated, when in reality, guys are much simpler to understand. But being all complicated and tangled up, girls think guys are just bleh. Girls EXPECT guys to know the whole flirting less thing when usually flirtatious girls are around guys they like. But do guys know that? NooOOoOoOoOoo... and then it gets the girls all mad because they think guys are just plain stupid.

Ahh well.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 02:32 PM

QUOTE(hked @ Jul 12 2007, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how does a girl who is flirtatious or lets say very very nice to everyone.....convey her feelings to a man she actually likes ?


i think she would be very nervous around 'the guy she likes'
think about it-- if she's flirtatious to every guy, this usually means she's really open or outgoing.
i THINK that she's nervous around a guy or shy or whatever, she's straying away from her norm.
so...
I agree with the other girls-- lack of flirting = liking guy.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 02:32 PM

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Uhh actually I disagree. I think girls are more confusing than guys. Girls are so complex that they think guys are complicated, when in reality, guys are much simpler to understand. But being all complicated and tangled up, girls think guys are just bleh. Girls EXPECT guys to know the whole flirting less thing when usually flirtatious girls are around guys they like. But do guys know that? NooOOoOoOoOoo... and then it gets the girls all mad because they think guys are just plain stupid.

Ahh well.

Actually, guys and girls are both simple-minded, fundamentally speaking. It's because we just think on different wavelengths that we seem very complicated to each other.

So this is the spectrum:


l---------------women's thoughts wavelength----------------> (women over here)

l=======================================> (the "i-get-you" line)

l-----------------men's thoughts wavelength-----------------> (men over here)


And I think it's when we get to know each other and learn to compromise with each other that we begin to gravitate toward the center line. They're the same lengths because I couldn't show waves, which just translates to thinking relatively similarly in terms of simplicity of thoughts. If those lines were ever meet up, then you could say it's sort of like a perfect match. wink.gif

ps. The women's wavelength on top and men's on bottom has nothing to do with intelligence level or any of that. I just simply thought "ladies first."
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 02:37 PM

it's hard for girls to understand guys.. and it's hard for guys to understand girls.. the outcome of a subject might be the same.. but the way we think is different.. like what ieatpowder said.. the progress is where the difference starts.. but the conclusion are most likely the same..



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Posted 12 July 2007 - 04:21 PM

guys for me are easy to understand...

most girls kind of hide their true feelings or are really indirect...like...

*looks at tiffany necklace*
Girl: omg, thats such a pretty necklace...
guy:yeah...sure...
*girl's birthday*
*girl opens present and finds a purse she's never seen in her life*
girl: oh...OH! I lurve it!
*guy is satisfied*
*girl wishes he had gotten her the necklace*

***a month later, they get into an argument***

*bicker bicker*
girl: ...and you didnt even get me that necklace i wanted!!!
guy: *confused* what necklace?
girl *screams in frustration* THE TIFFANY NECKLACE!!!
guy: you never told me to get it for you!
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 05:58 PM

^^^ HAHAHAHA! So true...

I think some girls have an expectation where they want their man to be psychic. But the reason why this happens is because we want him to naturally do it instead of having to remind him (it's more romantic and we don't have to feel guilty about the gift since, without asking for it, it was technically his idea to get it).

Oh, and the best way to know if a girl likes you is to ask her best friend.

Best friends know almost everything and they're more likely to hint to you about the girl's true feelings since they have nothing to lose.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE(monchichi @ Jul 13 2007, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think some girls have an expectation where they want their man to be psychic. But the reason why this happens is because we want him to naturally do it instead of having to remind him (it's more romantic and we don't have to feel guilty about the gift since, without asking for it, it was technically his idea to get it).


That is sooo true, for me at least. I'm not just talking about gifts but thoughtful actions in general. I don't like to complain or bring up things that I THINK he should be doing or WANT him to do to be sweet, cuz then if I did mention it, and he did it, it wouldn't be from the heart. It would feel forced, cuz I brought it up. sleep.gif
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 07:20 PM

I am seeing this korean girl that I really like but I would like us to be more. She came to america from korea around jan of this year. I am not korean. I get the feeling she likes me but sometimes I am unsure how can I determine if she likes me the same way I like her?

She covers her mouth or tries to block her mouth when eating when she talks to me, What does this mean?


Should I touch her more and see how she reacts to it? (ie hugging, arm around her shoulders etc)


We have been seeing each other for at least once each month due to the distance(she's from NY, I am from NJ) I make a sacrifice to see her by driving to flushing should I keep doing this or should we meet somewhere closer?

Sometimes we have akward silence when I am with her I find it difficult to talk to her sometimes because of the language barrier(English is a second language for her, but she is getting better at it)?

She usually likes to take pictures of us together or solo what does this mean?

We also had discussions why each of us has not yet had a boyfriend or girlfriend(I told her I had a girlfriend, and she told me she had one in korea) she says she likes someone and I told her the same but that's it nothing more, does this mean anything?

Is there anyway I can test her to see if she has stronger feelings for me ?


We may be meeting this weekend I'd like to get her something a gift, no flowers or chocolates(no consumeables, I want her to remember the gift and me as well I was thinking something for her hair she has long hair), any suggestions?
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 07:33 PM

^ Err I suspect she covers her mouth because it's full of food and I doubt you want a vision of her mashed up lunch. This is common etiquette... in Western countries too. Actually, it should be "don't talk with your mouth full."

If you think she won't react adversely... then go for it. Start lightly though. Perhaps when you part ways, hold your arms out and smile cheekily to imply that you would like a hug and if she wants one, then she'll go for it herself.

Not sure of the distance you're describing but hey, make sure she makes some effort to see you, too.

For me, a language barrier would be a HUGE obstacle. My brother is currently seeing a Korean girl and honestly, I don't know how they can do it. I want someone that I can speak to about ANYTHING, someone I can maintain a deep connection with, someone I can use "big words" with. I don't want to feel restricted or frustrated because he can't understand me. Sure, Se7en is cute but I don't think he's serious relationship material.

It could mean that she's a photowhore. But if I wanted solo pics of a guy, it'd be because I like him or I think he's good looking.

She told you she likes someone? Sorry, but that doesn't necessarily imply you.


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Posted 12 July 2007 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE(i n c _ m p l e t e @ Jul 12 2007, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ Err I suspect she covers her mouth because it's full of food and I doubt you want a vision of her mashed up lunch. This is common etiquette... in Western countries too. Actually, it should be "don't talk with your mouth full."

If you think she won't react adversely... then go for it. Start lightly though. Perhaps when you part ways, hold your arms out to imply a hug and if she wants one, then she'll go for it herself.

Not sure of the distance you're describing but hey, make sure she makes some effort to see you, too.

For me, a language barrier would be a HUGE obstable. My brother is currently seeing a Korean girl and honestly, I don't know how they can do it. I want someone that I can speak to about ANYTHING, someone I can maintain a deep connection with, someone I can use "big words" with. I don't want to feel restricted or frustrated because he can't understand me. Sure, Se7en is cute but I don't think he's serious relationship material.

It could mean that she's a photowhore. If I wanted solo pics of a guy, it'd be because I like him or I think he's good looking.


I usually hug her when we part. We talk or try to talk about korean movies though she knows the korean names and not the english names of the movies.

Also when we go out I usually paid for everything but she told me she felt uncomfortable when I did that so I took it easy on that. Last time we meet I got lost and we ended up going to a "town fair" she told me she could not walk to much because of her sandals they broke on her, so we walked a little and there was a shoe repair shop wink.gif so I took her in and we got her shoe fixed, $3 I only had a ten and the guy did not have any change sad.gif she ended up paying for it, we ended up eating at the fair I took car of the bill, then we drove to mitsuwa she bought me a drink that i was gonna pay myself....next time we meet i am gonna def ease up on the wallet...
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE(hked @ Jul 12 2007, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do u guys(Girls) expect, the guy to kno that ? =\ man..im confused like hell hahahha



actually i think you're just making us out to seem harder to understand than we are. if you guys hang out in the same group or you see her interacting with other guys often, pay a little more attention with the way she reacts to them or treats them. compare it with the way she reacts to you. i think seriously, you can tell when a girl is being shy or nervous vs when she's downright trying to avoid you because you're freaky. the way she reacts may seem similar but in fact are 180 degrees different. the reason why guys can't see the difference is usually because they're interested in the girl and are too nervous about their own actions/speech to notice her actions/speech.

if you want to test the water, try approaching her when she's alone. start up a conversation and then stay quiet. let the conversation run itself out and just sit there. don't seem like you're in a hurry to leave or anything, if she is interested, even if she's shy she'll TRY to say something to break the silence. if she's not interested she'll use the opportunity to just leave. of course there are exceptions to this but considering she's normally flirty and outgoing with other guys, eventually her true character will come out and she'll try something.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE(i n c _ m p l e t e @ Jul 12 2007, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She told you she likes someone? Sorry, but that doesn't necessarily imply you.


Definetly true. That's why I am afraid of taking the next step.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 09:03 PM

^ well then maybe you should talk with her directly.
ask her who she likes and see if its you.
i dunno, maybe its just me but i'd appriciate it if someone was straightforward with me...
because if you're confused maybe she is as well and shes just waiting for you to bring it up.


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Posted 12 July 2007 - 09:10 PM

Yeh, it wouldn't hurt to ask her - just keep your heart open and hope for the best, yet expect the worst.

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 01:19 AM

QUOTE(hked @ Jul 12 2007, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do u guys(Girls) expect, the guy to kno that ? =\ man..im confused like hell hahahha


^ Girls can be confusing.
But guys can be confusing too, it really all just depends on the individual seriously smile.gif
Usually, when a girl points something out saying its really cute or nice or something they'd want;
they expect you to take note for you to get it in the near future mellow.gif
AND when you offer to get it and they say no its OK, they really mean yes I want it but I don't want to be direct or obvious unsure.gif


QUOTE(contro @ Jul 12 2007, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am seeing this korean girl that I really like but I would like us to be more. She came to america from korea around jan of this year. I am not korean. I get the feeling she likes me but sometimes I am unsure how can I determine if she likes me the same way I like her?

She covers her mouth or tries to block her mouth when eating when she talks to me, What does this mean?
Should I touch her more and see how she reacts to it? (ie hugging, arm around her shoulders etc)
We have been seeing each other for at least once each month due to the distance(she's from NY, I am from NJ) I make a sacrifice to see her by driving to flushing should I keep doing this or should we meet somewhere closer?

Sometimes we have akward silence when I am with her I find it difficult to talk to her sometimes because of the language barrier(English is a second language for her, but she is getting better at it)?

She usually likes to take pictures of us together or solo what does this mean?

We also had discussions why each of us has not yet had a boyfriend or girlfriend(I told her I had a girlfriend, and she told me she had one in korea) she says she likes someone and I told her the same but that's it nothing more, does this mean anything?

Is there anyway I can test her to see if she has stronger feelings for me ?
We may be meeting this weekend I'd like to get her something a gift, no flowers or chocolates(no consumeables, I want her to remember the gift and me as well I was thinking something for her hair she has long hair), any suggestions?


^ Covering her mouth, is being polite when she's eating and I'm sure its common courtesy that she's accustomed to from Korea smile.gif
When you're talking about touching, I think its fine if you're hugging and holding hands type thing; whichever she's comfortable with.
Each girl has her own personal pace of how fast/slow she wants to go in a relationship.

And about the distance, I think meeting half way would be nice or sometimes you go there other times she goes to where you are >0<
So its not always ONE WAY where you have to travel x amount just to visit her.

Awkward silences are definitely normal because English isn't her first language.
So you're saying you guys aren't really together but it seems as if you're putting in a whole lot of effort.
I think maybe you should talk to her about this, try to use simple direct English for her to understand >0<

Taking pictures, can be a sign of either A) she likes to take pictures or cool.gif she wants pictures with you <3

I think its really sweet you're thinking of getting her something, maybe a silver hair clip/pin that would match her? ^^
Hard to really explain and everything >0<

If you're uncertain about her feelings, I suggest talking with her like I mentioned.
Because testing someone to me is just really immature ph34r.gif
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Posted 13 July 2007 - 01:40 AM

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i catch this girl glancing at me a lot during class. meaning....?


O___O; NOOOOO.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions, if I were you.
Thee was a guy on the bus who thought I liked him just because I was staring his way -__-;
I really couldn't help it, he was in my line of sight and I didn't feel like looking out the window (no matter how many times I stare, it's always going to be the same..)or anything so I'd just blankly stare through him at times, and he'd usually be in front of me.
It was so awkward, cuz I had to explain it and some guys are so dense, one actually thought I was playing hard to get.
The guys at my school... =___=;

But then, she might like you. If you're interested, look for any other signs other than her glances?

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man that is so confusing ==" ... ill never understand girls....

.. I usually act indifferent to the guy I like, but I'd sneak glances hehe >>;
They probably think I'm weird, now T__T;
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Posted 13 July 2007 - 04:39 AM

QUOTE(deportedkorean @ Jul 12 2007, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
guys for me are easy to understand...

most girls kind of hide their true feelings or are really indirect...like...

*looks at tiffany necklace*
Girl: omg, thats such a pretty necklace...
guy:yeah...sure...
*girl's birthday*
*girl opens present and finds a purse she's never seen in her life*
girl: oh...OH! I lurve it!
*guy is satisfied*
*girl wishes he had gotten her the necklace*

***a month later, they get into an argument***

*bicker bicker*
girl: ...and you didnt even get me that necklace i wanted!!!
guy: *confused* what necklace?
girl *screams in frustration* THE TIFFANY NECKLACE!!!
guy: you never told me to get it for you!



HAHAHAHA i love that example!!!! so trueeee sad.gif
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Posted 13 July 2007 - 06:11 AM

Ladies, although there may be a very obvious answer to this question, I was wondering if you'd like more than one answer to your questions in the 'Ask the Fellas' thread?

I tend to overlook the ones that have been answered, but because there havent been too many complaints, I've began to believe that one answer was enough to satisfy.

I'm well aware of the ratio difference between women and men, and how much easier it is to get multiple responses here.. but for some reason, it just feels unfair to me.

This is solely on my behalf, and I'd be willing to break the habbit of ignoring the answered questions and actually provide my input, if the answer to this question calls for it.

^of course, with the multiple number of questions, i'll have to limit myself to the unanswered and interesting(no offense) questions that come about. Thanks in advanced smile.gif
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