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#1 User is offline   wysiwyg 

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Post icon  Posted 03 August 2007 - 07:37 PM

I'm looking for a car alarm and would like your opinions. I'm probably gonna go shopping for one next week, so your suggestions/opinions will greatly be appreciated. If you know of another car alarm that isn't listed here, please feel free to recommend any other models. Thanks!

Clifford Car Remote Control (479X) - $149.99

Clifford Car Remote Control (479X)

Compustar Replacement Remote (2W8000FMRF) - $149.99



Nordic CS255 LCD 2-Way Replacement Remote - $179.99



Viper 479V Replacement Remote - $129.99



Viper Replacement Remote (7701V) - $149.99

Viper Replacement Remote (7701V)

Viper 5002 Replacement Remote - N/A


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Posted 03 August 2007 - 07:52 PM

anyone one of them is a good choice, when looking for one, look for the one with the pager alarm. Also, get some back up battery.
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Posted 03 August 2007 - 09:08 PM

Wait, i'm confused here, are you posting up pictures of remotes and the price of the remotes? If i remember correctly most the systems that you're looking at (judging by the remotes pictured) are in $200-300+ range.

Don't buy a system based on how cool the remote looks.... thats just silly. You can have one of these LCD remotes and still have a craptastic system... then again you can have a basic three button remote and have a crazy array of sensors and detectors...

In my first car, I had installed a Directed (DEI) Python system, and I thought that was pretty decent as a standard alarm and keyless entry.

Here is what I know about alarms:

No matter the system, make sure you have the right sensors and triggers for the car:

Tilt/Motion sensors - detects tilt (from a referenced angle when the car is first armed), which is useful if someone is trying to tow your car (for legal and illegal reasons), same goes with the motion detection. This also proves useful if someone is trying to jack up your car to steal the wheels. Do not buy the old mercury type ones because if broken they pose a serious health hazard

Shock Sensor - This is a pretty standard sensor, built in to some systems, which detects a sudden impact to the car, usually someone trying to take a hammer and chisel to smash out your lock. THIS BY NO MEANS SHOULD BE USED TO DETECT GLASS BREAKAGE, because it is not. If it was set to the sensitivity level of detecting glass breaking (impact of the blow), it might be too sensitive and cause false alarms...

Ultrasonic/Radar detectors - This is typically used on convertibles, where if the top was down, it can detect someone getting too close or getting into the car. This car also prove useful if you don't want someone getting too close to the car, as it usually has two outputs, a warning signal to the person or animal getting close to the vehicle, and a second if they came too close and sets off the main alarm.

Glass breakage sensor - This is basically a microphone hidden inside the car to detect glass breakage, by listening for specific sound frequencies associated with glass breakage, this needs to be adjusted properly as you don't want the alarm going off when rain drops hit it or so...

Cabin Air Pressure sensor - This is a interesting sensor, as it can be used almost in place of a glass breakage sensor. This too is a microphone sensing the air pressure inside the car, if the pressure were to suddenly drop, because a door is opened or if the glass is broken, causing a air pressure change in the car it will sound the alarm. This won't work if you left the sunroof open or ajar on a hot day or so...

Door/Hood/Trunk pin switches - This is basically a switch that is triggered when either the door, hood or trunk is opened, this is standard on all alarms and the most basic form of protection.

Make sure the alarm that you buy has a false alarm circuitry (also refered to as NPC), because if one of the sensor fails, and keeps setting off the alarm, neighbors or people nearby might get irritated and call the police on your car if it keeps sounding off constantly at night or so. So, most alarms have a detection circuit, that within a certain amount of time, that if one sensor keeps setting off the alarm, it will shut that sensor down and keep it from setting off the alarm unnecessarily. Usually this is three false alarms within a hour. Depending on your location, your car can be towed if the alarm goes off too many times or recieves too many complaints of false alarms, so make sure the alarm that you choose supports this false alarm circuit...

If the alarm system that you pick has remote start, make sure you read the manual on proper operation and safety precautions. You do not want to accidently start it and let carbon monoxide build up in your garage and house and possible harm or kill you or your family members. Most alarms will have a remote start kill switch in the car. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY AND PROPER USE OF REMOTE START SYSTEMS IF YOU HAVE ONE... and keep the remote out of reach of children tongue.gif .

Also, when you are at the installer or if you plan to install it yourself, have them (or you) use the car horns instead of the siren provided. It would cost a tiny bit more (they will have to install a cheap lil relay), but the effects are so much louder! The DEI siren that came with my alarm before was pretty wimpy, compared to my car's horn. I find that people tend to ignore a wailing siren, because it so typical of most alarms and its not that loud under the hood (which is where its placed). I find that sounding off the horn instead of a siren, is more effective because if the car is honking wildly, people look over, because one its down right annoying, and two its usually much louder than any siren (because car horns are placed optimally to be heard).

Also remind yourself to clean out your car and do not leave valuables in the car, because you still do not want to invite anyone to your car to steal something, even if you have the best alarm out there. For all you know, they can just smash your window, don't give a crap about your alarm, and take whatever they can. Also remind yourself to look and understand the system status LED mounted on your car (the blinking light), because it can provide some useful information about what happened when you were away (like if there was a alarm triggered), and this information is wiped when you start the car.







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Posted 05 August 2007 - 06:45 AM

These prices are in Canadian dollars listed on the Future Shop and Best Buy website. My car will be parked in the garage at all times. I am also considering buying a Club that hooks onto the steering wheel and pedals.

Thanks kelvin6 for the awesome amount of info you listed. Don't worry, I'm not purchasing a car alarm based on looks. I want to buy one that will be worth the money and does a good job of properly of securing my car.
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Posted 05 August 2007 - 12:59 PM

You really don't need the club device... because its almost redundant to have it. Most alarms, basic or toherwise, have immoblizers or starter kill. When armed, the car cannot be started because the connection from the key to the starter is cut. Typically if installed properly, it will take a theif way too long to hot wire it (if its even possible). Don't bother with the wheel club, because all it takes is a hack saw to cut your steering wheel to pull it out. And the pedal one is annoying.

If your car is relatively newer, you probably already have some sort of car immobilzer such as a factory alarm or a chip transponder in the car key (which is typically a simple resistor or a RF diode). Today's cars are much harder to hotwire and drive away with. Its more common to see people trying to tow your car away...
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Posted 05 August 2007 - 01:17 PM

The car alarms I listed, do they have immobilizers or starter kill? If not, could you recommend ones that do have them? Thanks.
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Posted 05 August 2007 - 01:49 PM

They all should have a immoblizer or starter kill. Even the most basic modern alarms have them...

BTW, what kind of car do you have?

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 06:32 PM

I just purchased a '99 Civic DX Hatchback. After filling out some paper work, I might get it next week (Thursday or Friday).
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Posted 05 August 2007 - 08:31 PM

seems like a lot of effort put towards a '99 civic. unless it's a hot commodity.
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Posted 05 August 2007 - 08:58 PM

Hmm... I still don't think the Club bars are necessary, in fact I would think it would become annoying to unlock and lock and put on and off each time you drive the car...

The immobilizer or starter kill (another name) is good enough to prevent anyone from driving away with your car.

CAUTION: The installer will give you the stickers from alarm system that say "Protected by Viper Systems" or something like that... DO NOT STICK IT UP. If they are aware of a specific security system they may know how to specifically break into and disable that system. Give them a surprise and it might save your car... do not put up the stickers. The blinking LED on the dash should give them warning about a security system already...

As I mentioned above, you could invest in additional sensors, which could be added at the same time as the install. You don't need ALL those sensors, but I do recommend the Tilt/Motion sensor, as it is inexpensive and it for preventing wheel theft, and someone towing your car away... most alarms will come with a shock sensor, which can detect and shock impacts from people trying to break in to your car to people who hit your car while parking or similiar...

Just be reminded that no alarm can prevent acts of vandalism or a really focused theif to steal stuff from your car... it only deters them (or at least tries to).
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Posted 06 August 2007 - 08:08 AM

viper/cliffords are produced by the same company, DEI. honestly, they're just rebadged units under DEI which are targeted towards different demographics of automobile enthusiasts. i like the compustar brand.. the underdog takes the cake here. the reason why i like compustar is because they company ONLY WORKS ON car alarms. no branded my happy poopoo, no different branches... just 1 company working on 1 marque. recently, DEI has fallen off the pedestal as the car alarm king as they're working on other marques such as televisions and car audio.

i have the viper vsx7900 and i must say, i am NOT content with it. the remote has a bright oled color interface with cool beeps and bops, however there are a lot of problems with the transmitter and receiver as they're not entirely compatible and the range is pretty limited. other than that, it has general features such as starter kill/immobilizer, shock sensor and a cool sticker to boot. sleep.gif

i should have gone with compustar.
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Posted 06 August 2007 - 08:26 AM

QUOTE(wysiwyg @ Aug 5 2007, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just purchased a '99 Civic DX Hatchback. After filling out some paper work, I might get it next week (Thursday or Friday).


There better be something worth protecting in that hatch. Like a swapped B-series and whatnot.
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Posted 06 August 2007 - 12:35 PM

QUOTE(hailing from ny @ Aug 6 2007, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
seems like a lot of effort put towards a '99 civic. unless it's a hot commodity.

The reason why I'm getting an alarm is because a lot of Civic's get broken into/stolen, and the car has a history of 2 break-ins (previous owner). The only thing that was done to the car is tint (30%), stock exhaust, Koss in-dash cd (which I'm gonna get rid of), and a K&N filter.

QUOTE(panda @ Aug 6 2007, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
viper/cliffords are produced by the same company, DEI. honestly, they're just rebadged units under DEI which are targeted towards different demographics of automobile enthusiasts. i like the compustar brand.. the underdog takes the cake here. the reason why i like compustar is because they company ONLY WORKS ON car alarms. no branded my happy poopoo, no different branches... just 1 company working on 1 marque. recently, DEI has fallen off the pedestal as the car alarm king as they're working on other marques such as televisions and car audio.

i have the viper vsx7900 and i must say, i am NOT content with it. the remote has a bright oled color interface with cool beeps and bops, however there are a lot of problems with the transmitter and receiver as they're not entirely compatible and the range is pretty limited. other than that, it has general features such as starter kill/immobilizer, shock sensor and a cool sticker to boot. sleep.gif

i should have gone with compustar.

Thanks for the advice. I already decided to go with Compustar. I'll probably get the alarm installed next week.

QUOTE(Clix @ Aug 6 2007, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There better be something worth protecting in that hatch. Like a swapped B-series and whatnot.

The car is stock but since I live in a bad neighborhood, I have no choice but to have an alarm. I'm also planning on modding my car so, I might as well get the alarm first before I start.
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