[Mr.Wyowang]

Barg at 3? I doubt it


PG-Ford
SG-MoPete
SF- Graham or Daniels
PF-Bosh, Barg
C-Rasho, Barg

let barg back up pf/c and let him start c in half season? and sign-trade Mike James for Marquis Daniels, what ya think?

[DOVAHKIIN]

I would do that, but I wouldn't see why Mavs would need James with Jason Terry sticking around, unless they wanna make him SG

[firelogic]

Seeing as how we have Ford, it's highly unlikely we'll be bringing back James to play backup, or even as an off-guard. Especially not at the ticket he's gonna be asking for.

Talent for talent, Ford and CV's numbers are almost identical. 12 and 6 assists, compared to 13 and 6 boards. Now people are ragging on BC now because they believe that CV is going to become an allstar (may or may not happen) but the bottom line is, we needed to do what's best for the TEAM right now and the simple fact is, we had (still have) too many forwards and a lack of guards, especially a true PG. Now whether or not CV turns into a monster ball player in the future doesn't matter because his PT woulda gone down with the addition of Bargnani and with Bosh demanding more attention as well so staying here would have been bad for him as well.

Basically, we got what we wanted and only time will tell if it was a bad deal but like i said earlier, if CV blows up in Milwaukee, there's no reason to believe that he would have if he stayed playing behind Bosh and Bargs.

And to all the naive fans out there (not on this board) who keep saying, "but CV wanted to retire as a raptor, he loved it here" i think you should take a reality pill. He may be telling the truth, I don't know but it's no reason to attach yourself to the guy. Athletes in every city say the exact same thing. It's a PR move. CV was repeating back exactly what Vince said and we know what happened there.

Put more trust in BC, the guy is no dummy and has built one of the most fun and successful teams in the league (Phoenix). Not to mention an NBA Exec of the Year award to boot.

/semi-rant.

[Mr.Wyowang]

Seeing as how we have Ford, it's highly unlikely we'll be bringing back James to play backup, or even as an off-guard. Especially not at the ticket he's gonna be asking for.

Talent for talent, Ford and CV's numbers are almost identical. 12 and 6 assists, compared to 13 and 6 boards. Now people are ragging on BC now because they believe that CV is going to become an allstar (may or may not happen) but the bottom line is, we needed to do what's best for the TEAM right now and the simple fact is, we had (still have) too many forwards and a lack of guards, especially a true PG. Now whether or not CV turns into a monster ball player in the future doesn't matter because his PT woulda gone down with the addition of Bargnani and with Bosh demanding more attention as well so staying here would have been bad for him as well.

Basically, we got what we wanted and only time will tell if it was a bad deal but like i said earlier, if CV blows up in Milwaukee, there's no reason to believe that he would have if he stayed playing behind Bosh and Bargs.

And to all the naive fans out there (not on this board) who keep saying, "but CV wanted to retire as a raptor, he loved it here" i think you should take a reality pill. He may be telling the truth, I don't know but it's no reason to attach yourself to the guy. Athletes in every city say the exact same thing. It's a PR move. CV was repeating back exactly what Vince said and we know what happened there.

Put more trust in BC, the guy is no dummy and has built one of the most fun and successful teams in the league (Phoenix). Not to mention an NBA Exec of the Year award to boot.

/semi-rant.

Great post

Man..I wish BC was our GM instead of Kevin Mcfail. I def can see Raps a contender in 2-3 years. Solid group of young players. If they can manage to get Durant or Young next year to play SF, Im gonna have to jump on the Raps bandwagon! haha!

[iyeiluj]

how is it crappy? o.O

i just dont think there were stand out players..like the number one draft pick was a foreigner..(granted, i dont know how well this dude plays)...

[Mr.Wyowang]

i just dont think there were stand out players..like the number one draft pick was a foreigner..(granted, i dont know how well this dude plays)...

Yao was a foreigner selected with the 1st overall pick

I agreed, this draft was a drop off after 8. First one to say Foye or Roy will win ROY!!!!

[EYJAYJAY]

wow im surprised..

tim thomas went to clips. and peja is considering going to hornets.. NOT because of the $60 million (5 yrs) deal they are offering him but because hornets has a chance to win. lmfao

[DOVAHKIIN]

Seeing as how we have Ford, it's highly unlikely we'll be bringing back James to play backup, or even as an off-guard. Especially not at the ticket he's gonna be asking for.

Talent for talent, Ford and CV's numbers are almost identical. 12 and 6 assists, compared to 13 and 6 boards. Now people are ragging on BC now because they believe that CV is going to become an allstar (may or may not happen) but the bottom line is, we needed to do what's best for the TEAM right now and the simple fact is, we had (still have) too many forwards and a lack of guards, especially a true PG. Now whether or not CV turns into a monster ball player in the future doesn't matter because his PT woulda gone down with the addition of Bargnani and with Bosh demanding more attention as well so staying here would have been bad for him as well.

Basically, we got what we wanted and only time will tell if it was a bad deal but like i said earlier, if CV blows up in Milwaukee, there's no reason to believe that he would have if he stayed playing behind Bosh and Bargs.

And to all the naive fans out there (not on this board) who keep saying, "but CV wanted to retire as a raptor, he loved it here" i think you should take a reality pill. He may be telling the truth, I don't know but it's no reason to attach yourself to the guy. Athletes in every city say the exact same thing. It's a PR move. CV was repeating back exactly what Vince said and we know what happened there.

Put more trust in BC, the guy is no dummy and has built one of the most fun and successful teams in the league (Phoenix). Not to mention an NBA Exec of the Year award to boot.

/semi-rant.

Just got the chance to read it all. I agree with everything you're saying.

All my friends were "WTF WHAT A DUMB DEAL" but I pointed out that Raptors had too many big men with insufficient ball distribution.

Then they shutted up

[jurassic5]

will be a good trade for Toronto as long as TJ's health problems are over with....



Sixers contacted the agents of Jared Jeffries and Ben Wallace. hmmmmm....going after Big Ben??? could the Sixers really be holding onto AI for one more year? (why trade away AI, but sign a 32 year old Big Ben?) hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[joonage]

i just dont think there were stand out players..like the number one draft pick was a foreigner..(granted, i dont know how well this dude plays)...

Well ... you don't exactly get a great pick with all the hype when you have one of the last picks of the first round. xD

I hope Ben stays will Detroit. Must keep Detroit intact.

Peja at Hornets. hmmm that'll be pretty nice.

Paul + Peja + J.R. + Mason + PJ + others - the Birdman. haha

[flipdragn]

Vladimir Radmanovic Going to the Lakers

wow im surprised..

tim thomas went to clips.

hmm...haven't heard about that one yet

Paul + Peja + J.R. + Mason + PJ + others - the Birdman. haha

hopefully j.r. will actually get some playing time this season

isn't chris andersen(the birdman if i remember correctly) still suspended for drug abuse?

[jurassic5]

looks like the Clippers are working on replacing the Lakers as the team to go to in LA. wonder if they are gonna keep Cassell as well.


check out realgm for the updated newsheadlines from around the country...has the article about thomas leaving PHX
http://www.realgm.com

[Mr.Wyowang]

Well ... you don't exactly get a great pick with all the hype when you have one of the last picks of the first round. xD

I hope Ben stays will Detroit. Must keep Detroit intact.

Peja at Hornets. hmmm that'll be pretty nice.

Paul + Peja + J.R. + Mason + PJ + others - the Birdman. haha

J.R might not be a Hornet come next season,

Projected starters, I like it..

Paul
Snyder or Smith(if they dont trade him)
Peja/Mason
West
Armstrong

[tjadl6386]

Isn't Andersen banned from playing in the NBA for that drug violation?

[xkrndreamer]

Vladimir Radmanovic Going to the Lakers

yes...he will be a good addition to the lakers roster!

[joonage]

Vladimir Radmanovic Going to the Lakers
hmm...haven't heard about that one yet
hopefully j.r. will actually get some playing time this season

isn't chris andersen(the birdman if i remember correctly) still suspended for drug abuse?

yeah ... That's why I did - (minus) >.<

I guess he wanted more hops after the humiliating dunk contest

[flipdragn]

oh, sorry. lol i wasn't sure what that meant.

yeah he took a long ass time to do that and it wasn't even really that good. who took more tries: chris andersen or nate robinson?

[tjadl6386]

That dunk contest was hilarious. I think Nate Robinson's dunk was pretty hard to perform and the fact he's 5"9' makes it less embarassing for him as it was for Birdman.

[joonage]

That dunk contest was hilarious. I think Nate Robinson's dunk was pretty hard to perform and the fact he's 5"9' makes it less embarassing for him as it was for Birdman.

well the birdman was white so he does have an excuse. jk jk

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2506579

^ Melo makes a verbal agreement with the Nuggets. Five year - $80 Million.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2507013

^ Peja makes a Five Year - $80 Million Verball agreement with the Hornets
while Vlade makes a verball agreement with the Lakers. Five year - $5 Million mid-level/worth in excess to $30 Million.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2506941

^ Bargani signed to his rookie contract with Toronto. $7.78 Million for first two yeras. More than Vlade.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2506660

^ Terry makes a verbal agreement to resign with the Mavs. Reports $50 Million for six years.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2506087

^ James still hasn't agreed to the $80 Million Five year deal from the Cavs. Decision likely on July 12th.

[gary]

wow. the nba is going crazy. i love it.

my only problem with the villanueva/ford trade is that i feel that villanueva has much more potential than ford. and its not like he's not going to use that potential, being stuck behind people. his one year of experience will probably warrant him more playing time than the rook. but the raptors finally got the pass-first point guard they need, so we'll see what happens.