[gary]

if kobe reallllly wanted to have a great signing, he would reconstruct his contract but of course kobe wont do that

that's actually a good idea and seems plausible for kobe who has huge endorsement deals, and so i tried looking it up, and you can't renegotiate a deal.

In no event may a Team with a Team Salary at or above the Salary Cap renegotiate a Player Contract.

the CBA doesn't allow players to amend their contract if the team is above the salary cap, sucks for the lakers.

[GO!zilla]

they should allow contract reconstructions in nba. afterall if a player is "willing" to take less money, why the heck not.

like in mlb '

[plusone]

the CBA doesn't allow players to amend their contract if the team is above the salary cap, sucks for the lakers.

really?
how bout buying out players then (like cwebb and eddie jones)... thats an amendment to their contracts and they were certainly above salary cap

[res0nate]

The MLB can allow players to take a pay cut, but more often than not, the Players Union steps in saying it's bad for everyone else that's looking for "market money."

Superstar makes 10 /year
Free agent uses said superstar salary as an example of what he's worth.
He signs for 3 / year instead.
Rest of the FA market "suffers" b/c of one mans generosity; it's lowering the benchmark.

[GO!zilla]

the mlb players union can suck my bawls because they get overpaid anyways.

players have too much power in both nba and mlb... but i also don't want to see another lockout.

[DOVAHKIIN]

they should allow contract reconstructions in nba. afterall if a player is "willing" to take less money, why the heck not.

Yeah, so the Lakers can pull a T-Wolves - Joe Smith.

[GO!zilla]

u can put carl malone in that equation too. soooo sad

[helenmelon]

oh my goodness. scratch that! detroit won game 1. so bad so bad.

[DOVAHKIIN]

u can put carl malone in that equation too. soooo sad

Players are allowed to take paycuts, as long as it doesn't appear suspicious and verbally agreed before hand. Malone was very old and by standards, a paycut for one year was acceptable.

It was also during (Kevin) McHale's reign that the Timberwolves were punished by the NBA for making a secret deal with free agent forward Joe Smith to avoid the league's salary cap rules. Before the 1998-1999 season, Smith agreed to sign three one-year contracts with the Timberwolves for less than his market value. In return, Smith received a promise that the Timberwolves would give him a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract before the 2001-2002 season season.

In 2000, after word of the secret agreement got out, NBA commissioner David Stern voided Smith's final one-year contract with the Timberwolves, making Smith a free agent. Stern also took away the Timberwolves' next three first round draft picks and fined the team $3.5 million. Smith signed with Detroit for one season, but came back to Minnesota before the 2001-2002 season as a free agent.

This is what the Wolves tried to pull off, very different from the Lakers just signing Malone who wanted to win a ring for a low salary.

[plusone]

^where'd you get that?
i was under the impression that they were already giving him money under the table when they caught him.

[DOVAHKIIN]

Got it from wikipedia, not the most reliable source, but ehhh

[gary]

really?
how bout buying out players then (like cwebb and eddie jones)... thats an amendment to their contracts and they were certainly above salary cap

i don't know. they didn't really amend it did they? look at what i quoted, it says they can't renegotiate the contract. buying out the contract is entirely different. they don't add money or take away money, they just pay the remainder of what's left on the contract.

[DOVAHKIIN]

Basically "here's $X of your remaining salary, get off our team"

[res0nate]

Yeah, buying out contracts are a whole different matter.

And gg Bulls.

[plusone]

^aiite thanks for clearing that up; i think i get it now
so theoretically, can you buy out kobe and resign him to a veteran's minimum for salary cap purposes? because when you buy out, you no longer count against the salary cap i think

not gonna happen, but just curious.

[res0nate]

I don't know if Kobe has an option or eto built into his contract. Too lazy to google his salary and such.

If he doesn't, then he isn't viable for the buyout stuff iirc.

[GO!zilla]

not worth it... if nba finds they were in violation of something... sorry to say i dont want anything to happen like what happened with twolves. first round picks are deadly.

[jurassic5]

first round picks are deadly.

yeah..that kwame brown is a killer.


kobe most likely does not have a buy-out option....he does have an opt-out option after this next season (or is it the next).....so if the lakers don't step it up...i would not be shocked to see kobe somewhere else.


and yes..unfortunately..buyouts such as webbers still count against the cap....thank God that after 2008, he will be off the books!

[GO!zilla]

ehh kwames only 25 and was hampered with injuries this season... but yes kwame is a baby in a muscular body.

[plusone]

and yes..unfortunately..buyouts such as webbers still count against the cap....thank God that after 2008, he will be off the books!

then theres no difference between a waiver and a buyout O.o