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[q+a] Singing Tips & Recording Questions Post any questions regarding tips for improving singing or recording.

#2001 User is offline   lccyn 

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 02:11 AM

I have a question.

After so much of mixing for so many songs...
This is the first time i'm encountering such problems.

I have an instrumental that is running at the exact speed with the original music INITIALLY.
but when it gets near the middle and till the end... It runs faster than the original...
Anyone knows how I can deal with this problem???
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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:03 PM

I'm sorry if this was already asked before...I did look at the very first post and i did clicked the link to see that already asked questions but my computer is kind of...weird....so it took me back to the very first post.
so yeah... sweatingbullets.gif
for recording questions:
so, even if i record my voice, on a recorder, I can't put it in the computer??? to be able to put it in the computer, would I have to record my voice using a microphone that's plugged into the computer??
where do i plug in the microphone then?
do i need to use some kind of software too??
I never record anything in my life and never done anything like putting something recorded into the computer before...so I may need to know the basics. sweatingbullets.gif

uh...I can ask singing questions, right?? sweatingbullets.gif
When you sing, touch your cheeks. is it suppose to vibrate? does that mean i'm singing right? or does that mean i'm singing from my throat only??
(I tried seeing which one it was. I tried normal talking, and my cheeks vibrate. So I thought that if i'm sing, and my cheeks are vibrating...meaning i'm singing from my throat...which is incorrect. so does that mean when my cheeks vibrate, i'm singing from my throat??)
and when u sing, the diaphram is suppose to be hard, right???

also, is it normal to feel like u got something in ur throat??? u know when u swallow and stuff...i feel like there's something kinda stretchy, sticky thing that is stuck to the part, or my throat. I thought it may just be that i'm feeling my uvula...but are u suppose to feel it??? blink.gif or am I feeling something from my nose...(ahem...u know what i mean...when you got a runny nose and u sniff to keep it in there...) sorry if this grossed you out.

soo...whatever that's in the way...is that affecting my singing, somehow? whooo...i have no idea....

also, when you have a deep voice (btw, i'm a girl), which songs do you guys recommend? Like, I'm trying to make my voice sound more--I guess you can say more smooth--but since that isn't really my kind of voice, what are some songs for me that can help develop my voice?? (I'll try to make it sound more smooth when I have more experience of singing...)

thanks and sorry if these questions have already been answered! >_<! (darn computer)

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:54 PM

@lccyn
Is it a vocal cut? If it is then the problem is probably with the creation of the instrumental file. There is no practical way (that comes to mind) to fix that. You'll have to just consider remaking the instrumental file. If it persists, it's probably because the computer is lagging during file creation.

@love_fate&destiny
Depends what kind of recorder. Usually most digital recorders have an import function to transfer music to the computer. But the quality is usually quite low and depending on what type of digital recorder, some file type tweaking has to be done.

As for singing. Uh...I've heard of the nose vibrating...but I'm not too sure what the cheeks vibrating mean. And the diaphragm should be relaxed when you sing. And no, it's not normal to feel something in your throat.

For song recommendations...there's not really any specific or particular type of song that will help. I'm not really sure what you mean by smooth...but if you mean just not broken...I believe you mean legato. You could just try doing scales without breaking through the notes but make sure you hit eat note distinctly and clearly.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:49 PM

Fook You
thanks~

is there recorders that can be put into a computer???
I'm looking at Olympus recorders right now...it seems like you can import your recordings into the computer....
do you guys use recorders or microphones? which one is easier or better??
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 08:29 PM

well i'm a newbie to soompi's performer's section and i would like to know what is a
good mic to start with that's not overly expensive and is compatible with Windows Vista...
i hear that the sanson c01u is pretty good, but i don't think i can use it with my labtop.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 08:57 PM

love_fate&destiny
I personally use a microphone. Using a recorder or an indirect input is just too much of a hassle.

krstarjr
Samson C01U can be used with any computer if I remember correctly.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 01:16 AM

Fook You; nope, its not a vocal cut. Its the piano version of perhaps love.
I realized that's no way I can fix that. I tried changing the speed to it.. but it sort of change the pitch as well.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 10:58 AM

QUOTE (Fook You @ Dec 28 2008, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
love_fate&destiny
I personally use a microphone. Using a recorder or an indirect input is just too much of a hassle.

krstarjr
Samson C01U can be used with any computer if I remember correctly.


oh ok...so when you get a microphone, do you also have to get some kind of mixing
program or does it come with it?
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 10:47 PM

im kind of ashamed that i was too lazy to look through about 101 pages of this ^___^;;
but i went through almost 10 i think :\
and i wanted to ask a few questions..

im curious about how to get a more steady and i guess the word is.. 'rolling' vibrato?
mines kind of fast and uneven, i guess?

also, how do you know you're singing from your diaphram?
when i hear things like, singing from your diaphram and not your throat, i get really confusedd.
how do you know you're singing from your diaphram?

ackk, and another question.
i just use the 'sound recorder' on my vista computer because im too lazy to get the recording program/and i dont know how it works.
whats the most user friendly program for recording/mixing?
i know you have opinions, but im just wondering about userfriendly..

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:21 PM

@lccyn
>< Oh darn. Well good luck finding an alternative! ^^

@krstarjr
I'm fairly certain no mixing software...well no decent mixing software wink.gif...comes with the C01U. And since it's USB and plugged directly into the computer...it doesn't require an external interface. I would assume that it comes with it's own control drivers, but no mixing software.

Oops, rambled. Short version of it is no, I don't think it comes with mixing software.

@sheennabear
Try forcing your vibrato...slower, and working up to a faster speed? Dunno. I can't really figure out what you mean by rolling vibrato, sorry.

As for knowing where you're singing from: Start talking. Stop. Start singing. If the singing sounds like your talking voice, you're singing using your chest voice. Easiest recognition I know.

Most user friendly program for mixing...kind of an oxymoron lol.

Audacity is the only free software I know of.
There are others like Cool Edit (Now Adobe Audition), Cubase, Sony Acid, are some just off the top of my head, but these all cost money.

User friendly depends entirely on the user. If you're willing to learn how to use the program, then everything is fine. There is no "Do it for you" mixing program. But the most simple would have to be Audacity. It's simple, but limited and not very flexible imo, but hey! It's free biggrin.gif.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:51 PM

QUOTE (Fook You @ Dec 30 2008, 02:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@krstarjr
I'm fairly certain no mixing software...well no decent mixing software ;)...comes with the C01U. And since it's USB and plugged directly into the computer...it doesn't require an external interface. I would assume that it comes with it's own control drivers, but no mixing software.

Oops, rambled. Short version of it is no, I don't think it comes with mixing software.

@sheennabear
Try forcing your vibrato...slower, and working up to a faster speed? Dunno. I can't really figure out what you mean by rolling vibrato, sorry.

As for knowing where you're singing from: Start talking. Stop. Start singing. If the singing sounds like your talking voice, you're singing using your chest voice. Easiest recognition I know.

Most user friendly program for mixing...kind of an oxymoron lol.

Audacity is the only free software I know of.
There are others like Cool Edit (Now Adobe Audition), Cubase, Sony Acid, are some just off the top of my head, but these all cost money.

User friendly depends entirely on the user. If you're willing to learn how to use the program, then everything is fine. There is no "Do it for you" mixing program. But the most simple would have to be Audacity. It's simple, but limited and not very flexible imo, but hey! It's free :D.


but i heard forcing your vibrato is really REALLY bad for your throat :O
is it okay?
haha, when i think of 'forcing vibrato', it seems kind of, FORBIDDEN.
ah, its fine, rolling, it just means like, fluent and good at it, i guess?

oh okay, i'll try audacity sometime, then :]

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 01:42 PM

Oh! I didn't mean forcing in that way. Oh boy I should really proofread my posts to make sure they make sense haha.

I guess a better way to put it is just "take it slow". Try thinking about how you're gonna fix your vibrato step by step. Like...breathing exercises first, then voicing, then...well yeah etc etc.

Gaaahh haha dangit xD. That's what crappy vocab leads to :<.
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Posted 30 December 2008 - 06:50 PM

ahhaha, i see, thanks ^__^
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:50 PM

ok sry, if i'm being repetitive, but i've got just a couple more questions to be cleared up...

#1. Has anyone used or is using any or the M-Audio mics/software? Is it good? I looked at some
of their products and they seem pretty reasonable.

#2. (This is probably a dumb ques., but I wanna know)
How do people do a collaboration? Do they each record their own part and someone
puts it all together, or like do they somehow get together and record??

#3. When you get a mic, (let's say it's a usb mic) does that record or do you have to record in
a recording program?

#4. How do you sustain a note longer w/ losing the tone/pitch? I can hold a vibratto but sometimes
it gets off tune at the end and kind of falls off\. Oh yea, and how do you keep from being "choppy" when you sing? Like when your singing a ballad or something and you want to sustain a note...maybe w/ vibratto but you end up breathing at weird places b/c you used ur breath for that note.

-Well that was more than a couple of questions, but I give my appreciation & kudos for your help^^
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:56 PM

i just bought a new digital camera, the panasonic lumix DMC-TZ5
the picture quality is good, but the mic/recording is really bad.
if you record something where there's no noise, and you replay the video
all you hear is extremely loud static, (reminds me of the movie white noise 0.0)
and when im singing it picks up my breathing really badly, so like in some parts
you hear me taking a breath, & its extremely loud, and im not taking hard breaths how
it comes out
any tips.suggestions. avoiding this problem?

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 08:17 PM

@krstarjr

#1 Personally not a fan of m-audio products. Reasonably bad quality. Just an opinion as I've had an m-audio mic fail on me a few times.

#2 Everyone records their own part.

#3 Record in a recording program.

#4 The holding is pretty much just lung capacity. It all comes down to the fact that the more conditioned your lungs are, the more air you can hold in, and the longer you can sing. Sometimes it's natural, sometimes it's hard work. But just know that long notes isn't a thing that "Everyone can do in 3 easy steps". There's plenty of ways to enlarge your lung capacity though, so it's not a dead end smile.gif. And the falling out of tune at the end seems like you are "tapering" (as i like to call it) your note at the end. I think the best analogy I can draw is a 100-meter track race. Some times people have a tendency to slow down when they're nearing the end. Obviously they won't get their best time since technically they weren't running their fullest the entire time. Same thing applies to this dilemma you have. You just need to use the same amount of breath from beginning to end, then cut it off quickly when the note ends.

@ohdangchang
Ok, all audio recording machines have this thing called "natural feedback". It's not ambient noise, but rather noise the machine itself makes. This is why people will spend heaps of money on microphones that don't seem that much better than some others. So really all I can say is that there's no way around this. It's a hardware problem. I remember when I bought my first mic I was told by a friend of mine "Crappy hardware gives you crappy stuff. Live with it. You're gonna end up spending lots of money on the high end stuff. So forget the shortcuts" Uh...sounds kind of mean now that I just typed it. BUT it was funny when he said it lol.

What I mean is...a digital camera was not made for recording great audio, so therefore, it won't.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 08:50 PM

@Fook You Thanks so much! You're a life saver^^
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 08:28 AM

hi I was wondering if anyone had a guide or any tips on how to change the key of a instrumental
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:40 AM

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hi I was wondering if anyone had a guide or any tips on how to change the key of a instrumental
thanks ^^

it depends on which recording program you use :]~

just post which one, and im sure someone can help you out.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 04:12 PM

Most programs list it either under "Effects" or "Edit" as something related to "Pitch". So just search the toolbars for something "Pitch ____blank_____"
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