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[q+a] Singing Tips & Recording Questions Post any questions regarding tips for improving singing or recording.

#2151 User is offline   5imply_5wt 

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 07:25 PM

^C01U is okay at long at you don't do vocal acrobatics =P
hum higher pitch~ i had that happen to me when i was recording with my digital camera.
i sound very chipmunky O.o
so maybe it's your sound card?
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Posted 08 May 2009 - 02:22 PM

i think i know what Jaeho is saying, i have the C01U and my voice sounds deeper on the speakers than with headphones. maybe it's because with headphones the sound is all up in our ears. i hate my C01U though haha, sometimes the computer just restarts out of nowhere when i try to record, and i hate how loosely the USB cable is plugged into the mic, it keeps freaking falling out lol. and when i plug it back in my computer freezes >___>

anyway, i don't know anything about mics and recording and everything, how do you make it so that the mic is really umm, not sure what the word would be...sensitive? like i see a lot of singers, when they record, their mic can be like a foot or two away from them yet the sound is still perfect. when i record i have to put my mouth pretty close to the mic and it's annoying..
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Posted 08 May 2009 - 06:06 PM

^ go to control panel -> sounds and devices -> audio -> sound recording ( select samson) -> volume ( you can turn it up all the way and then edit it when you are recording
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Post icon  Posted 12 May 2009 - 03:36 PM

the biggest thing in home recording is the fact that you need to have decent equipment...i would not suggest getting a usb microphone...because there are sound issues that will cause unwanted hums and other such noises to be recorded as well...i would suggest looking into a recording interface...preferably a firewire interface, but usb will work as well...its pretty much an external sound card...
prices range from about 70-150 and higher. (try to get something that has phantom power)

next is the microphone...
a decent microphone will cost about $100 on average. This will be a basic vocal mic but you will want to make sure that its right for you. You can test the mic out and see how it sounds (yes it is silly to sit in the local music store and watch someone else sing into the mics but it is necessary to find the right mic for you)

Headphones/Speakers:
DO NOT GET THE HEADPHONES THAT YOU PUT INTO YOUR EAR!!!!
get the ones that cover the ear. that way it will sound more like speakers for those who don't have speakers yet. (i.e. me haha)
speakers at a good price are hard to come by...you can just use your computer speakers, but unless you have really high quality speakers, it won't sound good and you'll blow them very quickly. average pair of powered studio monitors will cost about $100 for the pair...if you do a lot of hip hop/r&b/ or anything that has a lot of bass sounds, get a subwoofer as well...this way you will have speakers that last a very long time.

Now with all this you can get yourself started with a pretty good home setup. Its nothing professional but it will work very well!

I currently use:
presonus audiobox usb ($120 on ebay)
EV Blue Cardinal and EV Blue Raven Condensor mics ($200 Cardinal/$150 Raven)
Monster cable XLR (these cables last forever, seriously...$30)
Sonar Headphones (don't buy the in ear headphones, you must get the ones that cover the whole ear to clearly hear everything...$50)


And from there i use cubase sx3 for recording and mixing.
It takes a while to get everything collected together and sounding the way you want it, but if you want to seriously get into the whole hobby/lifestyle of a home recording studio, this is very important to start with. (i admit cool edit is cool and all, but not really the program to use with recording and mixing songs...)

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 09:25 PM

any reviews / comments about KCM USB-87 USB CONDENSER MICROPHONE?
coz i'm wanting to have a condenser microphone.. but i'm a cheap asian so i go for the cheap ones XD


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Posted 14 May 2009 - 11:05 PM

i'm a complete noob when it comes to using CEP...is there an easy tutorial for it?
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Posted 15 May 2009 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE (koreanangel149 @ May 15 2009, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'm a complete noob when it comes to using CEP...is there an easy tutorial for it?


There's a link on the first page of this thread.

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 06:10 AM

I was just wondering how to get the effect in Saturday Night's chorus where it sounds digital.
My voice is too innocent for this song's chorus parts. ph34r.gif
I'm using Audacity.

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 03:16 PM

Haha wow this is what happens when I'm out for a couple of weeks.

In my opinion a decent mic isn't about $100. $100 mics are good for starters in terms of recording. A decent equipment is going to require a lot more money and I'm talking about at least $500 - $1000 ranges. My new studio I'm opening this summer is almost $75,000 and that's not even considered "professional."

The Samson C01U is distorting when you're belting because you are making it CLIP. This isn't just the Samson C01U but it's on every microphone as well. Every microphone has a capsule inside that catches sound vibrations and in the case of a USB mic it will do all it's Analog to Digital conversion and process it to your Digital Audio Workstation. To reduce clipping, you are going to need to lower down the GAIN of the microphone (aka volume). As a recording tip, one shotting through your rendition will give you a poor demonstration of your recorded vocals. Especially if you have breathing problems and loss of energy after belting, it will be noticed! Make sure you record on different tracks so you can adjust the gain if necessary when you are singing those high notes.

Now the reason why you sound deeper on your speakers is because apparently I'm sure none of your rooms are acoustically treated. Your sound from your speakers is also being transfered to the ground (probably your desk) which is causing the bass levels to be muddy and therefore creating more low-end sound being produced in the audio you are listening to. Now, us audio engineers use something called studio monitors which are relatively like speakers but ours is processed through SPDIF and an expensive external sound card while majority of your equipment consists of your speakers connected via RCA cables into your PC's internal standard stock sound card so the A/D conversion isn't the most accurate as well. Your speakers are fine, but your room isn't basically. If you want accurate sounding speakers then talk to me about it.

For those who currently record using the Samson C01U, I really recommend getting this digital preamp known as SoftPre: http://www.samsontech.com/main/misc.cfm?pageID=45
It allows you to control the volume of the Samson C01U digitally and provide some amount of Low Cuttage (or EQ) out the bass / low end to provide more richness on your sound. If you have any questions based on recording let me know.
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Posted 16 May 2009 - 05:01 PM

^ That was really helpful XD
I looked back a few more pages...
Okay, I lied. I looked through ALL the pages in a span of a week or so >>
And I decided on getting the C01U since it received mostly good reveiews x]

Yeah, it figures a good studio would cost a LOT
But I didn't think it'd cost THAT much...

Thanks for the information, hinsaru and dtguitarplayer ^^
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Posted 16 May 2009 - 05:33 PM

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 10:31 PM

anyone wanna recommend me a good mic??

im looking for a condenser mic, that's not a USB...
price ranging from 80-150$... anything??

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 01:07 AM

I have joined 3 collaborations before and even though I am psyched when I get a part, I get worked up about how I sound.

My voice is a bit deeper than the average girl (I'm twenty-one), but I have a soft voice. Unless I'm screaming, it is kind of faint.

.. because of my "deep" and "soft voice", I sound .. raspy at times?

Is there a way to make my vocals stronger? I know I should not use my throat to sing and a friend of mines say that I do.

Another friend told me that I need to sing louder and use the diaphragm more. Even when I try, I don't think I am doing it right.

It is annoying me since collaborations look fun and my friends tend to randomly break into singing. But I just sit there since I can't sing.
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Posted 17 May 2009 - 08:44 PM

*sigh*
i've been reading this thread for 3 hours straight now (pg 26)
trying to see if my question has already been asked TT.TT
but seeing that it's 109 pgs, you guys could excuse me if my question's been answered already? lol

i have a couple of (long)questions:
whenever i sing and i change from chest voice to head voice, there's always the feeling that there's something stuck in my throat, so i pause, clear my throat and try again. It's fixed and i can go on, but since i don't like the pause and hack, i end up "pulling from my chest" and it's to the point where it just feels natural and i don't know the difference between what my voice should be and what the "pulled voice" is... is there any explanation on how to resolve this issue?

when i first started becoming interested in singing, i started with SeeYa's songs. And for those of you who listen to them, they have immense amounts of vibrato (use immense amounts of vibrato?? lol not sure how to state this one..) so, being young and naive, i copied their vibratto. A couple of months down the road, i find this thread and i can't help but suspect that i'm doing something wrong with my voice and such, so i started over. Now when i'm singing, i can't lose the vibrato, maybe because i'm so used to it? *shrug*
i tried singing with a "straight voice" (just in case i was doing it wrong) but it's extremely hard and it ends up hurting my throat... is it possible that my vibrato is natural?

whew~ lol
i'm done xD

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 06:12 AM

QUOTE (OHHxbby @ May 18 2009, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*sigh*
i've been reading this thread for 3 hours straight now (pg 26)
trying to see if my question has already been asked TT.TT
but seeing that it's 109 pgs, you guys could excuse me if my question's been answered already? lol

i have a couple of (long)questions:
whenever i sing and i change from chest voice to head voice, there's always the feeling that there's something stuck in my throat, so i pause, clear my throat and try again. It's fixed and i can go on, but since i don't like the pause and hack, i end up "pulling from my chest" and it's to the point where it just feels natural and i don't know the difference between what my voice should be and what the "pulled voice" is... is there any explanation on how to resolve this issue?

when i first started becoming interested in singing, i started with SeeYa's songs. And for those of you who listen to them, they have immense amounts of vibrato (use immense amounts of vibrato?? lol not sure how to state this one..) so, being young and naive, i copied their vibratto. A couple of months down the road, i find this thread and i can't help but suspect that i'm doing something wrong with my voice and such, so i started over. Now when i'm singing, i can't lose the vibrato, maybe because i'm so used to it? *shrug*
i tried singing with a "straight voice" (just in case i was doing it wrong) but it's extremely hard and it ends up hurting my throat... is it possible that my vibrato is natural?

whew~ lol
i'm done xD

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 09:43 AM

I'm thinking of buying a mic for my sister for her 21st birthday. Which is on wednesday..

I tried to get the C10U condenser mic but they said it was out of stock. They suggested the CAD U37. Anybody knows anything about it?

and what about the Shure SM58?

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 10:31 AM

QUOTE (Sponch @ May 19 2009, 03:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm thinking of buying a mic for my sister for her 21st birthday. Which is on wednesday..

I tried to get the C10U condenser mic but they said it was out of stock. They suggested the CAD U37. Anybody knows anything about it?

and what about the Shure SM58?

The Shure SM58 Beta requires phantom powering from memory. Be sure to ask the clerk/sales person what mic requires Phantom Power or not, because certain microphones require additional pricey equipment to be bought along with it.

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 12:44 PM

Shure SM58 does not require Phantom Power since it is a Dynamic Microphone.
Condenser mics need the 48+ Phantom Power inorder to have enough voltage to power up the microphone.
Unless you are getting a Shure Beta or Shure KSM series, an external source with 48+ volt phantom power is not required.

I've heard good mic reviews about CADs, but only on the higher end side (We're talking about $600 mics Dx).
But their USB mics I haven't been able to read any reviews about. But for me, I'm a huge fan of Audio Technica
microphones and some people using the AT2020USB has given me real positive feedbacks and surpassed my
expectation.
If you don't mind me asking though, I was wondering where were you looking to get the Samson C01U from?
I have several websites that can help you get the Samson C01U with lower prices wink.gif.

For mics that are around $80 - $150, there isn't much honestly. But after looking at some couple of sources,
I've noticed you can purchase my old microphone for less than $120 on Amazon (That's where I bought it from).
I have couple of demos featuring this awesome microphone and the ability it can do! I've used this microphone
for more than a year now before actually deciding to upgrade which I ended up purchasing an higher class version of it hahaha.
But this is a real good microphone: http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT303...8991&sr=8-1

I have some examples of me using this microphone, but once again I'm a rapper so I'm not sure if it will help you.
http://www.box.net/shared/f02hof8l29

Anywho, I have some demos recorded with vocalists, but only if you're interested I can send them through you via PM. smile.gif
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 10:53 AM

QUOTE (Sponch @ May 18 2009, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm thinking of buying a mic for my sister for her 21st birthday. Which is on wednesday..

I tried to get the C10U condenser mic but they said it was out of stock. They suggested the CAD U37. Anybody knows anything about it?

and what about the Shure SM58?



if she is doing podcasts then i would suggest a usb mic...otherwise i would suggest putting a little more money into actually get a decent mic she could use more than just at home...the sm58 is an awesome vocal mic, but you have to make sure you do have the extra things you need to do home recordings...other than that its a good choice to stick with the sm58...i would try to stay away from the usb mics as much as possible...
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 08:53 PM

Hmm..

I'm actually buying from a local shop cause I think it'll be cheaper. I haven't brought the mic yet, though it's wednesday already.

Actually, she's learning singing and she likes it . So I thought that If I brought a mic for her, she could practise at home.

If I really do buy the SM58, how much would it cost for everything roughly and what would I need?

And can you exactly do with a mic? Just recording and mixing or what?
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