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[q+a] Singing Tips & Recording Questions Post any questions regarding tips for improving singing or recording.

#951 User is offline   xlilvietgrl 

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE(dark intuitions @ Jan 25 2007, 11:19 PM) View Post
xlilvietgrl:
I tend to use Audition to Centre Channel Extract the main vocalist out, and then listen over and over and over and over and over again.
Plus there are some basic patterns for harmony that you begin to pick up if you have an ear for it.


we can download that program for free right?
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 12:28 AM

QUOTE(blahxx @ Jan 26 2007, 02:03 PM) View Post
THANKS A LOT FOR THE INFO!

i tried to find some of the answers to my q's here, but there were so many posts + people were usually talking about the recording devices, etc..

are there certain people who can't hit high notes? i tried to sing as high as boa (i think she naturally has a high voice?) and my voice kept cracking, and my throat was sore for two days after. now im afraid that i may damage my voice or get singer's nodes or whatever it's called and i dont want to practice singing anymore (i guess that's what personal coaches are for). im resting my voice right now and trying to drink a lot of water. i want to practice singing, but im afriad that i might be doing it wrong and damage my voice. my throat was sore two times (for two to three days each time) the past two weeks already bc i practiced singing higher/stronger, and this never happened to me before. i thought the soreness was from a flu, it was that bad...and it also affected my speaking voice, it was deeper than usual and i couldnt speak in a firm/loud voice


First off, i would like to say that what "know" is all based on things i've read and understand, and i'm not always right. So, please forgive me if i give wrong info. shall i start? haha

they are many people who cant hit high notes naturally, but with practice you will be able to. there are also people who have natural high voices. I guess you can take boa for example but maybe its also because she has a lot of training, which enable her to be able to sing "high" comfortable or maybe thats her natural range. Natural range is the range you are born with. You can always have more "range", but without practice you wont be able to achieve it. Think of your vocal cords like muscles, you need to take it slow and train it so that you will be able to go higher (like lifting weights). Your throat is hurting is because your using your throat to sing which is very unhealthy.

You have to understand how the voice works (vocal cords, diaphram, etc) to be able to understand how to use them. do i make sense? :x sorry if i dont. take for example the vocal cord like a unhealthy muscle that we havent used often. that is why people have to practice year(s) to get a good sound because you have to train the vocal cords, with good practices everyday so it gets healthy and produce a good sound.

so you have to relax and take it slowly, well not literally, but you have to make sure you do warmups before you sing and dont push your self farther then you can. if your voice starts to hurt then you know that your doing something wrong, not always but most of the time. also drink alot of water 1-2hours before you sing. It takes about 2 hours for the water to get into your system and reach your vocal cords.

From what your saying, I'm guessing your not doing enough warmups or your not singing right(breathing,etc) because your throat shouldnt be sore from singing. And if you are, you might not be using the right "technique" to reach high notes. I dont really have much information on that part. That is why vocal coaches are recommended. They can help you more then i can.

My advice for you is, download that SLS cds around here somewhere and use them to warm up. Breathe from your stomache and when you sing, imagine the words(/notes) riding on the waves of your breath when you breathe out. You know like those little kids shows where it looks like musical notes on waves? haha yeah like that! As for singing higher you would have to practice scales, but i'm not sure. I know for me, I do scales and I can honestly say that I reached 1-2 notes that I couldnt reach before(2 months ago). Singing stronger, I'm not sure aobut this. I always thought it was on your natural voice but I have no idea. sorry sad.gif

Wow that was long eh? probably not even all of what i wanted to say but I hope you got the idea and what i tried to say. I hope this part has help you and many other people who might of had the same questions. and sorry if it seems as if things sounds repetitive, i seem to do that when i write. now onto the next part...

lets "sigh" together. haha


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is it true that you're suppose to sing with your chest and not your throat? how do you do that? like, the sound is suppose to come from your chest and up, and not from your throat and up
Its true, but you have 3 different "voices". Its all explained in EternallyFallen posts. You usually never sing with your throat because it'll end up hurting.

Here try this excersice: First, place your tongue behind the lower teeths, take a deep breathe in with your stomache, and breathe out holding out a hum also put one hand on ur chest.

If you are doing it right, you should feel the vibration in your chest, behind your upper/lower teeth, and lips. Your lips might tickle a little but that just means your doing it right. And from my understanding, what you feel on your chest is your "chest voice".

I might be wrong, but thats what I always thought it was. haha crazy.gif

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oh, and should i sing in a range of voice that's the most comfortable for me or should i get out of my comfort zone and sing in a different range? like beyonce..her speaking voice is deep but her singing voice is high..i want to sing in a voice that's higher than my speaking voice..how would i achieve this? i can sing high in a soft voice, but how do i make my voice strong singing high WITHOUT damaging my voice? thanks wink.gif


Most of the time you should sing with your comfortable range but if you want to try something different make sure that its not too out of your range. also make sure you had a good warmup before you try anything too much for your voice. From what you've said, I suggest that you get a vocal coach. The way you want to sing isn't impossible to achieve your self, but it will be very hard. You need to get a vocal coach to guide you and make sure your not doing anything wrong. Also teach you the right techniques.




From my experiences:

I'm still new to all this singing stuff, but I was really new 2 months ago. I couldnt reach certain notes and even if I could I would put a lot of stress on my throat and jaw which isnt good, but after doing some SLS excersice and a month or so I started to understand my voice more and figured out what I was doing wrong. If you just started singing, I think the first months or so is all about understanding your voice, and learning more about the voice. Like breathing, how it feels when you put stress on your jaws and the throat muscles when you sing higher, etc. I think thats all I have to say for now, my mind wondering off thru out this whole post so sorry if things doesnt make sense.







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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:01 PM

OH! and i have another question! Is Goldwave better or is Adobe Audition better in your opinion? Cause I'm not sure of which one to use...sweatingbullets.gif


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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:16 PM

uhmm well i have questions bout recording songs onto computer..
like i kno yu need soundclick..and thats teh only thing i know..
like what else do you have to do?

can someone help me? :x ;;;

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 02:26 AM

can someone help me
where i could get some
other programs so i could
record coz my goldwave expires...
T_T and i'm thinkin of usin other programs

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 12:47 PM

ok, i think i get what you're saying! lol.

what does SLS stand for? ill dl it and try the warm up..i think im beginning to notice my voice more when i sing whereas before i would just sing without much thought. and i need to drink more water. a LOT more. thanks again!
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 03:47 PM

SLS=speech level singing

sungiebaby--try Audacity, completely free and people in here seem to be coping with it. Or, obtain Audition if you want to take things seriously.

Dreams--you need a recording program and a mic. I recommend Adobe Audition if you're serious about things, or Audacity if you aren't. (Audition costs money if you obtain it legally, Audacity doesn't and is easy to use). Microphones wise--i use a desktop mic, but i'm not serious about recording. Quality is improved by decent mixing.

xlilvietgrl--I'm biased because I've been using Audition all the time. Multitrack programs are useful when you want to do harmonies and such. You can download a trial version of it for free.

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 08:45 PM

^ where i could dl Audacity or Audition?
i'm not really serious about singin but all
i want its jus sing that all hehe ^^

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 09:03 PM

sungiebaby--google is your best friend. ^^ well, it's my best friend anyway

Hmm...wondering (asking the people in charge actually)...hmaster's tutorials on the front page of this thread have expired...Should I re-upload?
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 01:02 PM

i just started to use audacity.. im singing with the music in the background.. but when i record my voice and play it.. i sing after the orginal singer is singing..its not the right timing. can anyone help me please?

oh and how do you take out the singer's voice and just let the instrumental play. or do i need to dl a seperate instrumental clip for the song?
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:14 PM

i have a very vague general question!!!!!

how do you improve your singingg in general?

from going from..sucking..to mediocre..and then good???

i heard vocal lessons were vital....but they teach something..so i was wondering what it could be...

please reply soon
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 04:03 AM

QUOTE(dark intuitions @ Jan 29 2007, 12:03 AM) View Post
sungiebaby--google is your best friend. ^^ well, it's my best friend anyway

Hmm...wondering (asking the people in charge actually)...hmaster's tutorials on the front page of this thread have expired...Should I re-upload?


could i dl it free?

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 03:41 PM

^yeh you can.

nd .. i have a few questions...
uhmm well i just downloaded audacity, do i just use a microphone, since thats all i have. and plug it in my computer?
and..i dunno how to use it..can someone teach me how?
nd like...for the instrumentals/background music, do i just play it wen i sing, or do i have to put it in audacity or something?

lols..im pretty confused bout this >__<;
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 05:26 PM

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Yea. Just plug your microphone into the computer. Open up audicity. If you have an instrumental, go to "Project > Import Audio" or just press Ctrl+I. Then just press the record button. Hope that helped
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 07:09 PM

Dreamss:
really u could dl it free
where u dl it at?

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 07:22 PM

^ well i went to google like that person said, and i put down
download audacity, and then i pressed the first result. and yeh. you can download it from there, and its free.

uh..i pressed Ctrl + I

but ..it doesnt show up..:/ ..
does it only work for the beta version ?
cuz i downloadded another version i think?
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 07:44 PM

^ well... wut version did u dl?

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 08:15 PM

I know this was asked many times but Im a lazy backlogger :x

how do you improve your headvoice? coz I really suck with it everytime I try high notes using my head voice I crack up and the notes gets soooo bad...thats why I use falcetto when I sing in high notes :x

any suggestions or tips how to improve it so I can use it for high notes instead of using falcetto?
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 09:41 AM

Hello, I came here to ask a question about vocals.

I trained myself home for 4 years singing BoA songs. Yes, My voice is high as hers. My parents said I've got a very high voice that nobody can immitate or follow, But I kind of regret now... I want to have a strong and powerful vocals as Christina Aguilera, Whitney Houston, and Zhang Li Yin but I can't seem to sing those kind strong and powerful songs. It doesn't suit my voice. Can I get a stronger and powerful vocals by practicing?
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 12:52 PM

^ I say definitely. (:

If you wanted to try then instead of training with Boa's techniques, attempt with one of the others. Since your already have a high voice, it shouldn't be a challenge to sing a Christina song until you meet the really high climax notes. I think practice would be the main focus along with working little by little as to not strain your voice and throat. Good luck. (:
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