[melOng-xP]

Who do you think should be leader of DBSK?

Me and my friend were discussing this today and she thinks Hero should be leader.

Traditionally , SM Town artists (and most k-pop artists) leaders are the eldest members of the group.
For example, Shinhwa's leader is the eldest: Eric, H.O.T's leader is the eldest: Moon Hee Joon etc.
But in DBSK's case the eldest is Jaejoong but Yunho (the second eldest) is the leader.

This got me thinking and overall I think Yunho is the best fit to be leader of DBSK.
Personally I think Yunho is the most popular member out of the group and has come out most in talk & variety shows. Also, if Jaejoong was the leader from the beginning I think it would've been very difficult. Jaejoong has very cold look (although this is NOT the case as he has a wonderful personality) and many of the members said that they thought Jaejoong was very cold at first. This wouldn't be a very good image for their group, I think Yunho has a more warmer face and would be more 'appealing' to the members of the public.

Also, if Jaejoong was the leader I think he would've had a very hard time being the leader.
As you know, Jaejoong has had many hardships during his time with DBSK. For example, when he hurt his leg in their Rising Sun days Jaejoong could not perform in nearly all performances. I don't think this would have been a good image for the group, not having their leader performing. And Jaejoong was also once caught drink driving. This isn't the best image for DBSK.

This is my opinion, please no bashing. Feel free to argue my point and add your opinion.

[LindySzeto]

Honestly, I don't think ither of them are fit to be leaders. Hero, his image is cold, but he truly is a sweetheart. Yunho, he looks mean & when I see him, my perceptions of him is that he is mean. He seems to be pretty controlling and abrasive.Yunho seems to be the only one who ever answers questions, no one else ever does. Unless it's directed towards them. *POINT is, it's like the rest of the members aren't allowed to speak, unless spoken too. If Yunho points to them, then they can speak.*Plus, I think the whole deal with making the oldest member the leader is just NOT right. This is just from what I see, I don't know them personally, not degrading them at all. I just don't see any good traits in ither of them. Honestly, with DBSK, it just seems like people, other authoritative figures are the ones telling Yunho to say/do this in the role of a Leader. A good leader would be someone like, LeeTeuk, he works hard, he has 12 other people to take care of. When he's hurt, injured, depressed, whatever it may be, he never shows his weaknesses. YeSung is also a good candidate for a leader as well. Leaders LEAD. I know Yunho leads, BUT it just seems like he's "leading" only by following.



*Just my opinion from what I SEE, but I could be D-E-A-D wrong.

[cc_yang]

i think it is good that YunHo is leader... in the very beginning when i got to know Dong Bang Shin Ki a little better... i said the same thing as well... i was like... how come JaeJoong isn't leader and YunHo is??? and then... i found out not too long ago that YunHo was leader because he talked really respectfully and proper... it was something like that... anyhow... i think the group is fine how it is... YunHo being leader is a great thing... if they were to debut with a different leader... i wouldn't really know what to say but that they were a really good leader... ...

[Chiidori]

I think Yunho is the best as leader. At first I thought it was Jaejoong too cuz he was always in the middle but from watching X-man I found out it was actually Yunho. He's really responsible and puts everyone else before himself. He's very hard working and sets a good example for the other members. He always does what's best for the group. SM made a good decision when they chose Yunho to be leader. Joongie seems to be more of the motherly figure and takes care of the members, and as many people have said before, his first impression is cold (even though we all know he's a complete dork XP).

[scaxmutt]

*POINT is, it's like the rest of the members aren't allowed to speak, unless spoken too. If Yunho points to them, then they can speak.*

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Honestly, with DBSK, it just seems like people, other authoritative figures are the ones telling Yunho to say/do this in the role of a Leader. A good leader would be someone like, LeeTeuk, he works hard, he has 12 other people to take care of. When he's hurt, injured, depressed, whatever it may be, he never shows his weaknesses. YeSung is also a good candidate for a leader as well. Leaders LEAD. I know Yunho leads, BUT it just seems like he's "leading" only by following.

*Just my opinion from what I SEE, but I could be D-E-A-D wrong. I respect Yunho & Hero..so eh oh well. I just think that DBSK should be "free-lance," No leader. LOL JK...

good point but i've never see yunho points them to speak, never once... he maybe talking lots, but it's because it's his duty, he's the leader, he's supposed to know everything... how do you talk when you don't know?


a good leader would be someone like eeteuk... hey, they are from the same company, why would you think people will not controlling eeteuk as well as they did yunho?

yunho leads only by following... well, they are getting paid by the company... you couldn't lead anything without them


no offense, i just want to point that out... peace? ^__^V

[LindySzeto]

good point but i've never see yunho points them to speak, never once... he maybe talking lots, but it's because it's his duty, he's the leader, he's supposed to know everything... how do you talk when you don't know?
a good leader would be someone like eeteuk... hey, they are from the same company, why would you think people will not controlling eeteuk as well as they did yunho?

yunho leads only by following... well, they are getting paid by the company... you couldn't lead anything without them
no offense, i just want to point that out... peace? ^__^V

LOL, none taken. Feel free to say whatever =)

True, they are from the same company. Whether, they are "controlled" or not, I'm just saying that Leeteuk does a pretty swell job concealing it than Yunho does. What you mean they can't lead anything without them? They're getting paid and they're "told" to follow certain rules, but it doesn't mean they should be treated like dogs you know what I mean? (Not saying that they are, I'm just speaking in general)

[not_popular]

i think yunho it's agood leader. he's mature and takes care about the other members

but, well, i don't know that much about dbsk. this is just my perception

[riviera_cacharel]

Honestly, I don't think ither of them are fit to be leaders. Hero, his image is cold, but he truly is a sweetheart. Yunho, he looks mean & IS mean. When I see Yunho, based on a few events that I've seen him, he is pretty controlling and abrasive.

Most of the time, he's always answering questions, other groups, I've seen many members answering questions, not just the leader. *POINT is, it's like the rest of the members aren't allowed to speak, unless spoken too. If Yunho points to them, then they can speak.*

Plus, I think the whole deal with making the oldest member the leader is just NOT right. This is just from what I see, I don't know them personally, not degrading them at all. I just don't see any good traits in ither of them.

Honestly, with DBSK, it just seems like people, other authoritative figures are the ones telling Yunho to say/do this in the role of a Leader. A good leader would be someone like, LeeTeuk, he works hard, he has 12 other people to take care of. When he's hurt, injured, depressed, whatever it may be, he never shows his weaknesses. YeSung is also a good candidate for a leader as well. Leaders LEAD. I know Yunho leads, BUT it just seems like he's "leading" only by following.

*Just my opinion from what I SEE, but I could be D-E-A-D wrong. I respect Yunho & Hero..so eh oh well. I just think that DBSK should be "free-lance," No leader. LOL JK...

i respect your opinion ,but i'm going to have disagree on some points



i feel Sm made the right choice in making yunho leader

he is responsable and he is the nicest member ,he's by no means a mean guy or abrasive
and i'm saying that based on fan accounts ppl who have meet them in person


he's always mindful of ppl waiting for them ,showing that he apprecites they are there with a nod or a smile or a wave
it may not seem like much but when you've been waiting all day its a lot
yunho also know how to handle stressful situations
but he is willing to let members too talk in japan changmin does plenty of talking even more than the others

as for the red part

yunho has more than proven himself when it comes to taken care of others his members and fans

2006 has been a hard year for yunho he ruptured his ligaments and got poisend ,had problems with his teeth
when he ruptured his ligaments he still did his best to perform and not to show his in pain
after the poison event it was the same , and way he handled it was graceful

i have been a fan for 3 years and never have i heard him complain about anything ,whether he's sick ,in pain ,home sick or,sad ,angry.

he always puts the need of his members 1ste
often denying himself a lot by doing so

he doesn't have the liberty to complain about someting

whether you lead 4 other ppl or 12 you have to see that both are hard to do

and yunho has done a great job in leading his members that i can say becuz
you can see the repsect and love the members have for each other

if yunho were a bossy jerk ,i don't think they wouldn't have left yunho as leader

Leeteuk and Yunho are both under the same company
if they control yunho's actions they will control leeteuk's as well and
their mangers cant control everything they do or say

but what i see is a young carrying his repsonsablity's well



ackkk long essay here sorry but i had to spit that

[LindySzeto]

i respect your opinion ,but i'm going to have disagree on some points
i feel Sm made the right choice in making yunho leader

he is responsable and he is the nicest member ,he's by no means a mean guy or abrasive
and i'm saying that based on fan accounts ppl who have meet them in person
he's always mindful of ppl waiting for them ,showing that he apprecites they are there with a nod or a smile or a wave
it may not seem like much but when you've been waiting all day its a lot
yunho also know how to handle stressful situations
but he is willing to let members too talk in japan changmin does plenty of talking even more than the others

as for the red part

yunho has more than proven himself when it comes to taken care of others his members and fans

2006 has been a hard year for yunho he ruptured his ligaments and got poisend ,had problems with his teeth
when he ruptured his ligaments he still did his best to perform and not to show his in pain
after the poison event it was the same , and way he handled it was graceful

i have been a fan for 3 years and never have i heard him complain about anything ,whether he's sick ,in pain ,home sick or,sad ,angry.

he always puts the need of his members 1ste
often denying himself a lot by doing so

he doesn't have the liberty to complain about someting

whether you lead 4 other ppl or 12 you have to see that both are hard to do

and yunho has done a great job in leading his members that i can say becuz
you can see the repsect and love the members have for each other

if yunho were a bossy jerk ,i don't think they wouldn't have left yunho as leader

Leeteuk and Yunho are both under the same company
if they control yunho's actions they will control leeteuk's as well and
their mangers cant control everything they do or say

but what i see is a young carrying his repsonsablity's well
ackkk long essay here sorry but i had to spit that

haha, ok girl. go ahead. Praise your leader. LOL.

Like I said, that was just what I saw of Yunho. I've never met him, but that's just how I see it from my p-o-v. But of course, you're a BIGGER fan than I am (Actually I'm not even a dbsk fan lol..Just micky) & you're probably right. The Leeteuk & Yunho deal, no comparison. =) I don't mean to offend any of yah YUNHO fans, so don't get the wrong intentions. Thanks for speaking your opinion though!

[riviera_cacharel]

^

LOL i'm sorry if i seemed mad or pushy
i was just trying to show he's a nice guy

everyone does have a different view on the members
some ppl think changmin is a bit mean ,must be teh UFO reply thing haha

(and yeah i like praiseng him hahah )

[Poetic_Goofy]

As for me, I think Yunho is a great leader. He takes care of the other members and he speaks well, and trying to calm down the rest of the members when they are..well, hyper xD

JJ is hyper all the time, eventhough he is the oldest. Changmin is more mature, but he is the youngest and maybe a bit too shy

[LindySzeto]

^

LOL i'm sorry if i seemed mad or pushy
i was just trying to show he's a nice guy

everyone does have a different view on the members
some ppl think changmin is a bit mean ,must be teh UFO reply thing haha

(and yeah i like praiseng him hahah )

hha yes, everyone has different views. I didn't look at it as if you were mad/pushy. I respect your opinion as well. You know how it is though, most girls, once you say something about their beloved idol, they totally take it the wrong way. You know? But yeah hehe

[Kirari]

Choosing YunHo as leader was the best choice back then. Jeajoong wasn't all that talkative like he is now and I find the other members too young/immature to be a good representative towards the media.
If they were to pick a new one now, I would vote for Jaejoong.
I see the role of a band leader differently from you guys above I guess. I don't find being a good caretaker for the group/members a necessity to be qualified for leadership. Coz if so, everyone in DBSK can be leader. They all respect and take good care of eachother, I don't believe that they do that any lesser than YunHo. And just like leader-shi none of them ever complain about being tired or sick.
A good leader in my opinion needs to be the group's moodmaker and I find Yunho lacking a bit in that department. He just often acts so serious and it restrains the other members sometimes to show their funny crazy side. Does he have to be so formal? When the members starts to laugh around a bit, Yunho would usually try to make things more serious again. That makes the group boring and lose its appeal during interviews. That's what I felt about them in their early days.
But now the others are like whatever.. and just goof around whenever they want and have more fun in interviews & coverages. The leader thing is just a formality now.

He seems to be pretty controlling and abrasive.Yunho seems to be the only one who ever answers questions, no one else ever does. Unless it's directed towards them. *POINT is, it's like the rest of the members aren't allowed to speak, unless spoken too. If Yunho points to them, then they can speak.

I agree with you in that point, but not that YunHo is controlling. He just doesn't know how to guide an interview so that everyone can join in the talk. Leeteuk par example does that well, but hey.. the guy is radio DJ and MC. It's a hard thing to do. And besides, it doesn't occur all that often anymore that Yunho is the one who does most of the talking and then passes the mic around.

Leaders LEAD. I know Yunho leads, BUT it just seems like he's "leading" only by following.

Yeah, but they all get media training and has certain guidelines from their management to follow so you can't really say that YunHo doesn't know how.


I'd pick JJ because he's a witty guy, crazy sometimes but that makes the group seem fun. His cool looks is rather fitting for a leader. I loved his appearances on Xman and Star King and other Japanese shows. He seemed like a very warm person. But JJ is still quite shy sometimes so I don't know. YooSu are too giggly and into eachother so.. disqualified. YunHo is a responsible guy, I have no problems with him staying leader.



ugh.. shouldn't have made this such an essay.

[pink-bubble]

i dunno about other's opinion, but i think that SM did a good pick out for leader in DBSK...i wouldn't change a thing cause i think U-know, thoug may look cold and mean at times, has the personality to be the leader. He seems more mature and less playful than the other members.... how he show himselves in front of an audience is also very formal like. He may seems mean by being too bossy at times, but i think he's just trying to make DBSK become the best they can be. IT's good to have a leader that cares and tries to pull everyone to the same level. And i think that sometimes it's fustrating to be the leader too because you have more responsiblities than the other members...i think u-know did a great job. Though i like Jae joong more..i still think U-know is a fit leader. Jae Joong='s Love and happiness to the group!!!! so i think he has the greatest postition already!!!! ehheheh LOL

[kangeroo]

a leader leads...
and Yunho's an amazing leader!!
He ensures stability within dbsk..and i think SM made the wisest decision to make him leader!!

Being a leader expresses lots of hardships...and i think he's the only one capable of filling that spot in dbsk.
Of course all dbsk love eachother..and would do anything for eachother..i am not arguing against that..i just feel Yunho has shown himself to be the best at it.
Like many fan and non-fan accounts alike, he's the nicest member. I think one of the biggest difference between yunho and the other members are that no matter what Yunho always thinks about the other dbsk members and the fans as No. 1 priority. Fan accounts from the airport shows that Yunho can't say no to fans nor can he ignore them..he's just too sweet. and he can be feeling like crap..but he puts himself last.
He doesn't express any weaknesses...and he's unselfish.
Even when he's hurting...he doesn't burden anyone...yet smiles and says everything's okay.
Plus..he's amazing speaker and so charismatic at that.
2006, he still performed during a concert eventhough he shouldn't have..and then he ended up hurting himself..and not perform with the others for like 2 months??
when he was poisoned..all he worried about was the fans..and even the anti-fan. He easily forgave her cruel actions..which isn't easy to do.
I think he's the most unjudgmental person...because he really talks to just about everyone.
I think that's why they call yunho THE DAD of dbsk..because he really does protect his babies..and his fans.

from the start...the others were too shy..to even consider being a leader.
Jaejoong admits that he's cold for first impressions..he might be a little fragile.
Micky..may be a little to emotional for leader.
Junsu and min...possibly..but at that time i think they were still too shy.

i think yunho's been put up to the test..he's passed with flying colors. i wish no one would discredit his hardwork and responsibilities as a wonderful genuine leader. i don't think yunho talks too much..ultimately i think he's forced to speak because he's the leader..and the other members may be shy. right now..i think all members have broken out of their shell..which is why they all do a lot of talking instead of during hug or rising sun days.

He's the perfect role model.

don't mistake his aspirations for perfection to be bossy or mean.


LyndaNMicky

what's weird is that from watching suju..i didn't know who the leader was.
and i thought....why sm pick him...because eeteuk didn't exude leadership to me. to me, he seemed kind of overshadowed by the other members.
but..like you probably don't watch much dbsk things..i don't watch many suju things either....that can be why i don't see eeteuk as a model leader. i guess we need to watch more things before just assuming things.

[LindySzeto]

a leader leads...
and Yunho's an amazing leader!!
He ensures stability within dbsk..and i think SM made the wisest decision to make him leader!!

Being a leader expresses lots of hardships...and i think he's the only one capable of filling that spot in dbsk.
Of course all dbsk love eachother..and would do anything for eachother..i am not arguing against that..i just feel Yunho has shown himself to be the best at it.
Like many fan and non-fan accounts alike, he's the nicest member. I think one of the biggest difference between yunho and the other members are that no matter what Yunho always thinks about the other dbsk members and the fans as No. 1 priority. Fan accounts from the airport shows that Yunho can't say no to fans nor can he ignore them..he's just too sweet. and he can be feeling like crap..but he puts himself last.
He doesn't express any weaknesses...and he's unselfish.
Even when he's hurting...he doesn't burden anyone...yet smiles and says everything's okay.
Plus..he's amazing speaker and so charismatic at that.
2006, he still performed during a concert eventhough he shouldn't have..and then he ended up hurting himself..and not perform with the others for like 2 months??
when he was poisoned..all he worried about was the fans..and even the anti-fan. He easily forgave her cruel actions..which isn't easy to do.
I think he's the most unjudgmental person...because he really talks to just about everyone.
I think that's why they call yunho THE DAD of dbsk..because he really does protect his babies..and his fans.

from the start...the others were too shy..to even consider being a leader.
Jaejoong admits that he's cold for first impressions..he might be a little fragile.
Micky..may be a little to emotional for leader.
Junsu and min...possibly..but at that time i think they were still too shy.

i think yunho's been put up to the test..he's passed with flying colors. i wish no one would discredit his hardwork and responsibilities as a wonderful genuine leader. i don't think yunho talks too much..ultimately i think he's forced to speak because he's the leader..and the other members may be shy. right now..i think all members have broken out of their shell..which is why they all do a lot of talking instead of during hug or rising sun days.

He's the perfect role model.

don't mistake his aspirations for perfection to be bossy or mean.
LyndaNMicky

what's weird is that from watching suju..i didn't know who the leader was.
and i thought....why sm pick him...because eeteuk didn't exude leadership to me. to me, he seemed kind of overshadowed by the other members.
but..like you probably don't watch much dbsk things..i don't watch many suju things either....that can be why i don't see eeteuk as a model leader. i guess we need to watch more things before just assuming things.

I'm not saying that I've never watched anything or just like 1-2 takes of DBSK. Actually, I've seen probably more than enough to state a fair opinion. It's just that, the way Yunho leads his group leaves no interests to me at all. I can't sit there and listen to Yunho talk. I can sit there and listen to Leeteuk though. At first, I, myself did not know Leeteuk was the LEADER as well. Same with Yunho. A lot of people thought Leeteuk wasn't suit to be a leader, but he proved everyone wrong. I see nothing, but Leadership on him. I respect your opinion, and yeah, watching more of these two leaders would help in deciding who's a leader and who's not. It's totally off topic, Leeteuk has nothing to do with this, Hero is completely "shadowed" here. hehe

[kangeroo]

I'm not saying that I've never watched anything or just like 1-2 takes of DBSK. Actually, I've seen probably more than enough to state a fair opinion. It's just that, the way Yunho leads his group leaves no interests to me at all. I can't sit there and listen to Yunho talk. I can sit there and listen to Leeteuk though. At first, I, myself did not know Leeteuk was the member as well. Same with Yunho. A lot of people thought Leeteuk wasn't suit to be a leader, but he proved everyone wrong. I see nothing, but Leadership on him. I respect your opinion, and yeah, watching more of these two leaders would help in deciding who's a leader and who's not. It's totally off topic, Leeteuk has nothing to do with this, Hero is completely "shadowed" here. hehe

from the things i've watched of suju..i always thought kangiin was leader.
but yeah..talking about suju is off topic..
so yeah...i guess to me dbsk and suju are two very different groups.
suju is a lot of fun..
dbsk on the other hand...i feel like sm portrays them as more serious and mature...so i guess that's why i think yunho is fitted to be leader for DBSK (since he's really professional)..and probably the same with Eeteuk as leader for SUJU (since they can all show they bright personalities.) it probably just differs depending on what group it is..and what they are to stand for.

[engot02]

I am more than satisfied of YUNHO being the leader of dongbangshinki<33;;

[hseliz]

im more than satisfed of YunHo being a leader too.

i respect your opinion ,but i'm going to have disagree on some points
i feel Sm made the right choice in making yunho leader

a leader leads...
and Yunho's an amazing leader!!
He ensures stability within dbsk..and i think SM made the wisest decision to make him leader!!

reading what you guys wrote makes me teary eyed.
YunHo went through a whole lot of hardship last year..
and still he put his priority to the members and fans.
i remember seeing captions of their first tour concert in thailand or some other place where his hand was bleeding when performing.
im not being biased here even though im a fan of YunHo.

[crazyfrog]

want to say first of all i think Yunho makes a great leader and is probably a wise move by SM not to choose JJ. sorry JJ, but you're too instinctive. he just blurts out stuff... XD

Honestly, I don't think ither of them are fit to be leaders. Hero, his image is cold, but he truly is a sweetheart. Yunho, he looks mean & when I see him, my perceptions of him is that he is mean. He seems to be pretty controlling and abrasive.Yunho seems to be the only one who ever answers questions, no one else ever does. Unless it's directed towards them. *POINT is, it's like the rest of the members aren't allowed to speak, unless spoken too. If Yunho points to them, then they can speak.*Plus, I think the whole deal with making the oldest member the leader is just NOT right. This is just from what I see, I don't know them personally, not degrading them at all. I just don't see any good traits in ither of them. Honestly, with DBSK, it just seems like people, other authoritative figures are the ones telling Yunho to say/do this in the role of a Leader. A good leader would be someone like, LeeTeuk, he works hard, he has 12 other people to take care of. When he's hurt, injured, depressed, whatever it may be, he never shows his weaknesses. YeSung is also a good candidate for a leader as well. Leaders LEAD. I know Yunho leads, BUT it just seems like he's "leading" only by following.
*Just my opinion from what I SEE, but I could be D-E-A-D wrong.

i see what you're trying to say and i agree with some of them. it's true that Yunho is firm with his leadership but i think other members also get a fair go at answering questions. i think the part about others telling them what to say apply to all entertainers. they have people who tell them what to do and tell them what not to say, i'm sure all artists have been trained to a certain degree how to do it.

in terms of LeeTeuk and Yunho's leaderships, i think they both have pros and cons. imo, Yunho leads with hard paternalism while LeeTeuk leads with more soft paternalism. or Yunho like a father and LeeTeuk like a mother, if you will.