Hi! I'm doing a project for my "Sociology of Family Problems" class and the topic I chose was "Marriage for Citizenship." Basically, people get married to obtain the rights of citizenship to the US. I need a lot of sources so I was wondering if anyone could help. Furthermore, it would be great if I had someone of a similar experience to interview in regards to this topic. That would be great! Anywayz, thank you guys for reading. =)
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 09:53 PM
well...
my older cousin was approach by her big sister,
and then that same cousin approach me.
there was a really nice dude who wanted to stay here in the usa.
i think the amount was.... $10,000 for 2 years. i think. i dont remember the exact numbers.
but something close to that.
my cousin and i said no.
first, we felt like it was fake.
our morals, the way our parents raised us,
we wouldn't do that. it would all be so fake and so unreal.
it's almost as lying.
and a legal marriage license is hard to get divorced.
you'll have to go through alllll those paper work.
and, my cousin and i dont want to get married twice.
even though the first one is for 'fake', we don't want 2 marriages on our history report.
and, we don't want that guy to get to stay here the easy way.
our parents had to study and take all them tests to become citizens.
it's kinda unfair for him to stay for $10,000.
i think, sometimes, that's a wrong thing to do.
there was a lot of other reasons and things that went through my mind.
i, personally, have to put love into a relationship, even if it's for 2 years.
cause i think 2 years is the legal time one has to be married to stay, right?
but.... wow. i can't believe that happened to me.
and i thought nothing happens to me.
good luck with your project.
take care.
my older cousin was approach by her big sister,
and then that same cousin approach me.
there was a really nice dude who wanted to stay here in the usa.
i think the amount was.... $10,000 for 2 years. i think. i dont remember the exact numbers.
but something close to that.
my cousin and i said no.
first, we felt like it was fake.
our morals, the way our parents raised us,
we wouldn't do that. it would all be so fake and so unreal.
it's almost as lying.
and a legal marriage license is hard to get divorced.
you'll have to go through alllll those paper work.
and, my cousin and i dont want to get married twice.
even though the first one is for 'fake', we don't want 2 marriages on our history report.
and, we don't want that guy to get to stay here the easy way.
our parents had to study and take all them tests to become citizens.
it's kinda unfair for him to stay for $10,000.
i think, sometimes, that's a wrong thing to do.
there was a lot of other reasons and things that went through my mind.
i, personally, have to put love into a relationship, even if it's for 2 years.
cause i think 2 years is the legal time one has to be married to stay, right?
but.... wow. i can't believe that happened to me.
and i thought nothing happens to me.
good luck with your project.
take care.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 10:25 PM
i heard the price is more, like $20,000-$35,000 depending. gosh, the things people will do 
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 11:40 PM
I'd do it for free for a friend.
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 12:15 AM
(slightly offtopic) i wouldn't do it.. it's illegal.
i always thought that there were tests that the government take.. to make sure they're not just marrying to get into the country?
such as background checks.. how long they've been together.. friends & family, etc.
maybe research into that? is there any way you can call your local marriage dept. and see if they'll answer your questions?
i always thought that there were tests that the government take.. to make sure they're not just marrying to get into the country?
such as background checks.. how long they've been together.. friends & family, etc.
maybe research into that? is there any way you can call your local marriage dept. and see if they'll answer your questions?
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 11:32 AM
ive heard some people do it and its like 30-40k. really good pay for 2 years. they do do background checks, so you might have to take some pics together to prove you two are together or something and explain how you got together and pretty much convince them it is forreal. they cant do any actual family frineds background checks. once they are in american you do have to be married for 2 years, you have to have same address and such. so they keep checking up on you in that way. but nothing else really they can atcually do. theres too many people for them to individually send out agent to watch you O_O'
i dont think id do it. but i suppose it is illegeal but much better then mexicans running acrtoss the border? theres no paper work to keep track of them or antyhing.
i dont think id do it. but i suppose it is illegeal but much better then mexicans running acrtoss the border? theres no paper work to keep track of them or antyhing.
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 12:33 PM
This reminds of I Pronounce You, Chuck and Larry, but it's more of a heterosexual case.
I don't think I've known anyone who ever got married just to stay in the US. I do know people that married their girlfriend/boyfriend because they wanted to stay here, but I feel like that's different from what you're talking about.
I don't think I've known anyone who ever got married just to stay in the US. I do know people that married their girlfriend/boyfriend because they wanted to stay here, but I feel like that's different from what you're talking about.
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 01:10 PM
Doesn't it only lower the number of years you have to wait to gain citizenship... it doesn't automatically guarantee it?
My friend's "boyfriend" married his girlfriend in high school so she could go to college (I guess she was illegal)
My friend's "boyfriend" married his girlfriend in high school so she could go to college (I guess she was illegal)
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 03:32 PM
My sociology professor was talking about how it's extremly hard to do this these days. I don't see why people don't just get naturalized citizenship or get a greencard (although that's really hard to get too).
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 04:21 PM
Because those are harder and takes longer to get.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:31 AM
lol. in australia the government has just introduced a "test" to take for citizenship.
it's like an exam, and has questions about our sporting heroes, wildlife, our mannerisms and 'way of life.'
none of my parents are citizens.. they're just "residents" - permanently staying here, but not a citizen. weird eh!
it's like an exam, and has questions about our sporting heroes, wildlife, our mannerisms and 'way of life.'
none of my parents are citizens.. they're just "residents" - permanently staying here, but not a citizen. weird eh!
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 04:06 AM
My g/f's parents pressured her into "marrying" her cousin (her mothers sisters' son) next year. At first I was sad, even if it's her own cousin..... can't explain but it still hurt to hear that. I'm only 22, but I guess it hurt in a sense that if I do want to marry to her later, I'd have to wait until her cousin gets his citizenship and get divorced before I could even get down on my knees to ask.... I don't even know how long that whole process takes.
Anyways, then the second thing that popped in my head was, is the government that stupid enough to believe that a 22 year old girl with a college education really wants to get married to a guy that she met during her "2 week vacation"? Do they not do DNA tests? I asked my g/f and apparently one of her sisters did the same thing and as long as they had different last names they don't care. But this was several years ago.
Personally I think it's not worth the risk and kind of afraid that my g/f would be punished if she gets caught. I don't know how the government lobbies this issue now a days, but any more info on this would be very appreciative from my own personal perspective.
Anyways, then the second thing that popped in my head was, is the government that stupid enough to believe that a 22 year old girl with a college education really wants to get married to a guy that she met during her "2 week vacation"? Do they not do DNA tests? I asked my g/f and apparently one of her sisters did the same thing and as long as they had different last names they don't care. But this was several years ago.
Personally I think it's not worth the risk and kind of afraid that my g/f would be punished if she gets caught. I don't know how the government lobbies this issue now a days, but any more info on this would be very appreciative from my own personal perspective.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 10:42 AM
QUOTE(mahcivicslow @ Nov 5 2007, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My g/f's parents pressured her into "marrying" her cousin (her mothers sisters' son) next year. At first I was sad, even if it's her own cousin..... can't explain but it still hurt to hear that. I'm only 22, but I guess it hurt in a sense that if I do want to marry to her later, I'd have to wait until her cousin gets his citizenship and get divorced before I could even get down on my knees to ask.... I don't even know how long that whole process takes.
Anyways, then the second thing that popped in my head was, is the government that stupid enough to believe that a 22 year old girl with a college education really wants to get married to a guy that she met during her "2 week vacation"? Do they not do DNA tests? I asked my g/f and apparently one of her sisters did the same thing and as long as they had different last names they don't care. But this was several years ago.
Personally I think it's not worth the risk and kind of afraid that my g/f would be punished if she gets caught. I don't know how the government lobbies this issue now a days, but any more info on this would be very appreciative from my own personal perspective.
Anyways, then the second thing that popped in my head was, is the government that stupid enough to believe that a 22 year old girl with a college education really wants to get married to a guy that she met during her "2 week vacation"? Do they not do DNA tests? I asked my g/f and apparently one of her sisters did the same thing and as long as they had different last names they don't care. But this was several years ago.
Personally I think it's not worth the risk and kind of afraid that my g/f would be punished if she gets caught. I don't know how the government lobbies this issue now a days, but any more info on this would be very appreciative from my own personal perspective.
They won't get caught and the government and much too busy to do something so insignificant as to do DNA tests. I mean if they're trying THIS hard to get to America, I say let them. They are in the system, they will be paying tax. I can't say the same to illegal ones running over here in california. It's not going to hurt the economy. I've heard people doing it and I've never heard of anyone getting caught. All I've heard being discussed is matter of time, how long it takes. My Uncle actally recently went over there to marry someone. A real marriage but same idea, they are very different in age and they didn't have a single problem. Took only like a year for her to be here already.
Don't worry too much or be jealous, your gf is only doing this to help her cousin. Family is important right? She'd probably do the same for you
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 12:52 PM
is there anyone i can get an interview from? thanks
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 02:55 PM
My friend actually married her bf so he can gain citizenship in this country...she's 19 and I think he is 23. I thought she was joking when she told me she was getting married.
They like each other, but it's kinda crazy considering they got married after 1 month of dating and 2 or 3 months of knowing each other? Something like that...
They are also holding the ceremony again and reception in order to take pictures and stuff to make it look authentic.
They like each other, but it's kinda crazy considering they got married after 1 month of dating and 2 or 3 months of knowing each other? Something like that...
They are also holding the ceremony again and reception in order to take pictures and stuff to make it look authentic.
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 03:23 PM
lol, i was about to make a thread for this cuz i'm in that situation. my mom wants me to marry me cousin. 
For me, i know plenty of people that came here by marriage. One of my friend is offered 30,000 and another was offered 15,000.
i don't want to get married to someone i don't know and that's related to me. but then i understand what it's like for them. The reason why people are so desperate to get a citizenship here is because it sucks where they are at. The country my relatives are in is like a third world. It's like living in the street and barely getting by. it really suck for these poor countries and it's something a lot of us in America can't even imagine.
put yourself in their position. you're poor and live in a place where it's difficult to get a job and all. in order to get out of, you get to marry someone who's a citizen and bring you to America, the dream country and the land of opportunities. i would be grateful if someone was to marry me and get me out of that hell.
i know this but i'm still selfish and i don't wanna get married cuz i think you should marry the one you love. so for now i'm thinking about that but i don't know whether i'll go through with it or not.
also, people that applies for citizenship normally take YEARS. Our immigration system sucks(at least in my area) that's why they marry into citizenship rather than apply normally.
For me, i know plenty of people that came here by marriage. One of my friend is offered 30,000 and another was offered 15,000. i don't want to get married to someone i don't know and that's related to me. but then i understand what it's like for them. The reason why people are so desperate to get a citizenship here is because it sucks where they are at. The country my relatives are in is like a third world. It's like living in the street and barely getting by. it really suck for these poor countries and it's something a lot of us in America can't even imagine.
put yourself in their position. you're poor and live in a place where it's difficult to get a job and all. in order to get out of, you get to marry someone who's a citizen and bring you to America, the dream country and the land of opportunities. i would be grateful if someone was to marry me and get me out of that hell.
i know this but i'm still selfish and i don't wanna get married cuz i think you should marry the one you love. so for now i'm thinking about that but i don't know whether i'll go through with it or not.
also, people that applies for citizenship normally take YEARS. Our immigration system sucks(at least in my area) that's why they marry into citizenship rather than apply normally.
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 03:32 PM
QUOTE(likeYOUknow @ Nov 3 2007, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This reminds of I Pronounce You, Chuck and Larry, but it's more of a heterosexual case.
I don't think I've known anyone who ever got married just to stay in the US. I do know people that married their girlfriend/boyfriend because they wanted to stay here, but I feel like that's different from what you're talking about.
I don't think I've known anyone who ever got married just to stay in the US. I do know people that married their girlfriend/boyfriend because they wanted to stay here, but I feel like that's different from what you're talking about.
Chuck and Larry was a funny movie, but it depends I guess. I might do it. I might not. I guess it depends on the scenario.
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Posted 07 November 2007 - 10:04 PM
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lol, i was about to make a thread for this cuz i'm in that situation. my mom wants me to marry me cousin. For me, i know plenty of people that came here by marriage. One of my friend is offered 30,000 and another was offered 15,000.
i don't want to get married to someone i don't know and that's related to me. but then i understand what it's like for them. The reason why people are so desperate to get a citizenship here is because it sucks where they are at. The country my relatives are in is like a third world. It's like living in the street and barely getting by. it really suck for these poor countries and it's something a lot of us in America can't even imagine.
put yourself in their position. you're poor and live in a place where it's difficult to get a job and all. in order to get out of, you get to marry someone who's a citizen and bring you to America, the dream country and the land of opportunities. i would be grateful if someone was to marry me and get me out of that hell.
i know this but i'm still selfish and i don't wanna get married cuz i think you should marry the one you love. so for now i'm thinking about that but i don't know whether i'll go through with it or not.
also, people that applies for citizenship normally take YEARS. Our immigration system sucks(at least in my area) that's why they marry into citizenship rather than apply normally.
For me, i know plenty of people that came here by marriage. One of my friend is offered 30,000 and another was offered 15,000. i don't want to get married to someone i don't know and that's related to me. but then i understand what it's like for them. The reason why people are so desperate to get a citizenship here is because it sucks where they are at. The country my relatives are in is like a third world. It's like living in the street and barely getting by. it really suck for these poor countries and it's something a lot of us in America can't even imagine.
put yourself in their position. you're poor and live in a place where it's difficult to get a job and all. in order to get out of, you get to marry someone who's a citizen and bring you to America, the dream country and the land of opportunities. i would be grateful if someone was to marry me and get me out of that hell.
i know this but i'm still selfish and i don't wanna get married cuz i think you should marry the one you love. so for now i'm thinking about that but i don't know whether i'll go through with it or not.
also, people that applies for citizenship normally take YEARS. Our immigration system sucks(at least in my area) that's why they marry into citizenship rather than apply normally.
Oh yeah, my mother wants me to marry my cousin from vietnam so she can live in canada. She ask me when i was 16...I WAS LIKE HELL NO>>That's incest. But now that i'm 18 and much more grown up, I don't mind marrying her so she can live in canada. Come on, you can change / save a person from distress and since she is in my family, without a doubt i will do it. Canada is much easiyer to bypass then in america.
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