[raiseplus]

this dude wrote a song called "눈을 감아도" himself..n many others since he was in highschool.. went on show surviver [쇼서바이벌]
da song "even if i close my eyes" was released with album in 2006 for an ost for a movie.. although he didnt get recognize too well cuz he was a newbie and a contestant on a show.. i think it was wrong for da chinese artist to copy this song illegally..

i kno this because SUNG WOO bin himself wrote in his cy.. dat even if little things like big bang's lie gets attacked for being copied from a smaller portion of da song.... how come his music that he worked on hasnt been even recognize for being copied from... he felt that he was robbed off from..
its up in his cyworld too..


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viMHtdh6D9A[/media]

honestly..i've never felt soo bad for the guy..but yea i dont understand y he hasnt done anything.. maybe he hasnt the big company to back him up like jyp or sm.. but a smaller not well known company..but still really feel bad for da guy.. n sorta resentment towards da chinese..actually alot.. i mean honestly..how many illegal songs does it take for da chinese entertainment to finally understand how to make original songs. most ppl would gradually learn to evolve n make own music.n improve n wat not.. but i guess its no da case for chinese. this is prolly da final proof for me..to be hellza biased towards chinese/taiwanese music..honestly.. my opinion but its too much illegalness..

[jackthe]

haha wow.. another one.. hm... i dont think this will change da chinese from copying more korean music.. i jus wish sometimes they would do it legally n credit da ppl who worked hard on making the song.chinese entertainment,,, they have no respect. only selfishness. disrespectful

[wowwowthere]

damn!!!! serious?? for reall..??? i remember listening to this song.. dat guy's twin brother is actor lee tae yeong right??? i feel bad for him. da song is hella good too damn... dats messed up right there... i feel for him

[summerdamsel]

i guess let's just leave everything to the law
cause.. as far as i know..
kpop really has no right to go proud about being original at all
i LOVE LOVE LOVE kpop a whole LOOOOOT
that's why i'm here..
but i just gotta be real..
even the composers admitted it..
they were like.. 'composers are always being rushed.. its really hard to produce something out of nothing so we "borrow" melodies from foreign songs..' saw it on tv..
about this guy.. really.. he should do something about it..
out of all the companies that does major plagiarism.. why him.. right? ><

[wowwowthere]

i guess let's just leave everything to the law
cause.. as far as i know..
kpop really has no right to go proud about being original at all
i LOVE LOVE LOVE kpop a whole LOOOOOT
that's why i'm here..
but i just gotta be real..
even the composers admitted it..
they were like.. 'composers are always being rushed.. its really hard to produce something out of nothing so we "borrow" melodies from foreign songs..' saw it on tv..
about this guy.. really.. he should do something about it..
out of all the companies that does major plagiarism.. why him.. right? ><

but there is a differece between getting permission n doing it totally illegally n gettin credit for it.

[raiseplus]

yes i also do agree that artists in korea do borrow melodies..n stuff but atleast they get real permission for doing it. n if they which is rarely.. they get really bashed by their own media so its a risk to not get permission,,,but this case da chinese dude totally took da whole song n translated it n didnt even credit the person who wrote the song. i mean wtf is with that welcome to the 21st century have some effing respect. how many chinese artists in china hk taiwan havent remade/copied korean song..??? koreans usually think 90% of em do or have done.but im sure there are some..original good chinese music out there

[sushii]

^from what i know chinese/taiwanese artists do credit when they remake singles.
i don't think you should say that chinese are disrespectful and selfish just because of one guy.
who ever stole his track was wrong and should get sued for it.
but you shouldn't generalize that the chinese don't have originality.
i know a lot of singers in china and taiwan that compose their owns songs, and very original.[edit- i just saw you wrote that there are some original good singers in china, so forget this part of my post, just read the rest]
overall i do agree with you, that it was wrong that someone copied his song.
it just irks me that you said that about chinese.

[urgh..i don't think my short paragraph made any sense, its early in the morning.my brain isn't functioning.]

[raiseplus]

^from what i know chinese/taiwanese artists do credit when they remake singles.
i don't think you should say that chinese are disrespectful and selfish just because of one guy.
who ever stole his track was wrong and should get sued for it.
but you shouldn't generalize that the chinese don't have originality.
i know a lot of singers in china and taiwan that compose their owns songs, and very original.[edit- i just saw you wrote that there are some original good singers in china, so forget this part of my post, just read the rest]
overall i do agree with you, that it was wrong that someone copied his song.
it just irks me that you said that about chinese.

[urgh..i don't think my short paragraph made any sense, its early in the morning.my brain isn't functioning.]

it is da chinese artists who basically do copy most of da songs..wat do u want me to say that it was some irish artist who copied it when it was da chinese.?? but stereotype like that comes from facts not outta some's butthole. from wat i see mos chinese/taiwanese artists copy/remake korean songs.. n they dont even credit them n then chinese ppl go off saying koreans copied them. have some respect for that. neway china ent should fix their problems with all this illegal copying of music from korea.

[sookyung]

it is da chinese artists who basically do copy most of da songs..wat do u want me to say that it was some irish artist who copied it when it was da chinese.?? but stereotype like that comes from facts not outta some's butthole. from wat i see mos chinese/taiwanese artists copy/remake korean songs.. n they dont even credit them n then chinese ppl go off saying koreans copied them. have some respect for that. neway china ent should fix their problems with all this illegal copying of music from korea.

i'm a chinese myself.. but the thing is i have to agree to some extent on what is discussed here.. chinese pop = cpop, particularly from taiwan, they do credit the artistes whom they cope or remake songs from.. the catch here is that, the credit is usually not given the same attention as the artistes remaking it.. in simpler words, the artistes remaking it gets more attention from singing something different from the usual cpop style than the attention given to who original sings it.. furthermore, its not like they copy or remake songs like once in a blue moon to give the audience a different taste of music, they do it all too often in my point of view.. i've stopped listening to cpop, except for a few artistes whom i think are original in their style, because i think it is an industry that is increasingly becoming more superficial than quality.. superficial as in artistes just wanna get the media attention from trying something new, but this something new belongs to others..

this is my views.. no offence really..

[cosmiclatte]

just want to say i agree with you.
come on, NO, not ALL chinese artistes credit, there are a whole bunch of mainland singers which we've never even heard of. (and korean artistes dont even know of)
anyway, everyone knows this is a bottomless argument/topic.

[MPPB_obsessed]

I was researching after I read this topic earlier...and this is something particular that I found:

Sung Yu Bin Vol. 1 - Never Forget You (released Feb. 15 2007)
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code...pid-1004650136/

Ma Tian Yu - Beautiful Lights (released Feb. 16 2007)
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/aid-...pid-1004653498/

I didn't see the 2006 OST part, sorry!

They're both the first tracks, coincidentally. Funky funky.

Ma Tian Yu on AF - Favorite city: Seoul
http://asianfanatics.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=466859

Although, like you've pointed out, a lot of Chinese artists rip off of Korean music, you can't deny that some DO credit - just not in this case (not that we know of, anyway - I've checked Ma Tian Yu's MV and there wasn't any credit). But topic starter, you can't go around to all Ma Tian Yu's videos and label him as a copy-catter. If Sung Yu Bin (by the way, it's Yu/Yoo, not Woo) wants do something about it, that's his choice. You shouldn't go around bashing Ma Tian Yu (at least, not on Soompi, not that you are - but you're telling us that you're feeling resentment towards the Chinese, and that's a no-no on Soompi).

Those were just my two cents on this topic.


Melissa.

[miss scarlett]

Dude. If they release the song, it's BOUND to get copied. It's for everyone to listen to. Everyone will have the right to make it, unless the copyrights for the song specifically say that it can't be redistributed.

As long as they credit, then I don't mind the "copying."

Actually MOST Chinese artists DO NOT copy Korean music. Just because some of the well-known ones "copy" Korean music does mean that MOST of them do. It's just that a lot of the well-known artists are overshadowing some of the other ones--the REAL talent.

And in fact, some Koreans "copy" Chinese music as well. Byul's "Forever Love" or whatever... it's a remake of Wang Leehom's "Forever Love," which is composed, produced, and written by himself. And there are some more that I can't think of at the moment.

Copying is everywhere. However, I DO agree that Chinese artists tend to copy Korean music. As long as they credit I find nothing wrong with it.

[Jaeho]

Are you sure it was copied illegally? Because if it was, then that's horrible. Sung Yoo Bin is really talented.

Oh well. Chinese and Taiwanese singers covering Korean songs is nothing new.

[JJ.exot5ia]

miss scarlett that's the point, the chinese guy didn't credit


personally the chinese guy did a horrible thing... well technically not
him, it's probably his producer since he doesn't write his own songs right?
so A. you have no right to bash him, he doesn't decide what he sings.
But it is quite embarrassing, sometimes i'll be listening to a really good
chinese song then i later find out that it was actually made in korea, but
it just didn't hit too big and apparently they think it's okay to just TAKE it
and say some chinese person made it.

(btw, cpop is my least fav of kpop&jpop it's totally not original)

but... i think the korean guy should do something about this. Though if he
doesn't, and all he does is post it up on a blog and complain to himself
then i have to say that he's such a loser. Is there a point to complain to
a website instead of actually making a difference? NO so, if he isn't going
to do anything, then this thread is so pointless.

btw, i'm chinese, and i just wanted to say that even though i know you are
labeling the music. You just made it sound extremely racist and I don't think
any chinese people will like to read this. well actually , i laughed reading it
since you bolded it and... well w/e, it was kinda a good laugh o.o O wells,
i hope chinese people do something about this cus it's quite embarrassing...

edit::

because i wanted to listen to
the song... i went to search up a video of the chinese guy's song. and guess what
I found? you swearing everywhere and definitely don't have a clean mouth. so i just
wanted to say that if you could stop bashing him everywhere? it'd be great ^^

-Rebecca

[MPPB_obsessed]

^ I hope you haven't mistakened qkrgmlwjd for raiseplus, 'cause she doesn't have any videos on YouTube...


Melissa.

[Jaeho]

I just want to point something out. When a Korean singer covers a song, they don't try to keep the fact hush-hush. For example, most people in Korea know that Park Hyoshin's Snowflower is a cover of Nakashima Mika's. PHS even sang the Japanese version once. Also, when Ayumi covered Cutie Honey, the Korean media (like in news articles) point out that it's originally Koda Kumi's. There are exceptions though. Hyori got A LOT of media attention and bashing when people found out that Get Ya ripped off Britney's Do Somethin'. And also, the Korean media went wild when they found out that Ivy's Temptation Sonata MV copied Final Fantasy without permission.

Now, compare that with Chinese and Taiwanese singers who cover Korean songs. Some probably get permission, but I wonder why they don't really acknowledge the original song. Exactly how many people do you know who have listened to a Chinese/Taiwanese song, fell in love with it, and then find out that it was a cover like 3 months later only because someone on Youtube pointed it out? And I don't understand when people try to say that MOST Chinese/Taiwanese singers don't copy or that it's just the mainstream singers, that copying happens everywhere, etc etc. It's just that there is a very overwhelming amount of covers that were originally Korean in the Chinese and Taiwanese music industry.

And I'm confused about something. How many covers are actually done without permission? I have no problem if someone legally covers a song.

[JJ.exot5ia]

^ I hope you haven't mistakened qkrgmlwjd for raiseplus, 'cause she doesn't have any videos on YouTube...
Melissa.

thank's for pointing that out, i apologize ^^
but i do hope she can stop going onto all of his
music videos and bad mouthing him... it's just a
tad mean

Jaeho yeah... people actually make a big deal of it elsewhere... but china
well taiwan really doesn't seem to care. um... like coco lee copied sooyoung's
a love to die for and i'm not sure if she credited or not. freestyle's song was copied
and made it HUGE in china. also fish leong's first hit song was originally korean but
nobody knew..

disgace... T3T

-Rebecca

[raiseplus]

I was researching after I read this topic earlier...and this is something particular that I found:

Sung Yu Bin Vol. 1 - Never Forget You (released Feb. 15 2007)
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code...pid-1004650136/

Ma Tian Yu - Beautiful Lights (released Feb. 16 2007)
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/aid-...pid-1004653498/

They're both the first tracks, coincidentally. Funky funky.

Ma Tian Yu on AF - Favorite city: Seoul
http://asianfanatics.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=466859

Although, like you've pointed out, a lot of Chinese artists rip off of Korean music, you can't deny that some DO credit - just not in this case (not that we know of, anyway - I've checked Ma Tian Yu's MV and there wasn't any credit). But topic starter, you can't go around to all Ma Tian Yu's videos and label him as a copy-catter. If Sung Yu Bin (by the way, it's Yu/Yoo, not Woo) wants do something about it, that's his choice. You shouldn't go around bashing Ma Tian Yu (at least, not on Soompi, not that you are - but you're telling us that you're feeling resentment towards the Chinese, and that's a no-no on Soompi).

Those were just my two cents on this topic.
Melissa.

if u didnt see the clip on youtube.. the song he wrote was put in ost for a movie in 2006 when he was merely unknown and then he added his song again on his album which was released in 2007 from the gain of popularity from show surviver...as u can see.. the chinese entertainment likes to take songs from unknown artists.. they probably didnt realize that the song was going to be put in the album that was going to released the same month of the release of their own chinese album w. da chinese dude.

[Hitorijime]

Uhh, so yeah.

I hope you guys take into account that the majority of popular Cpop artists (well from Taiwan anyways) are a part of large INTERNATIONAL companies such as Sony, Universal, Capitol, EMI, Avex, Pony Canyon. So I doubt that a large majority of them would actually cover something without the company's knowing anyways.

[chiyo]

i don´t think it´s fair to blame chinese music on this though. it´s a thing that happens everywhere. heck even american and european artists get sued all the time (for example avril lavigne, etc... and hey, how many people have copied timbaland this year (and then how many people accused timbaland of stealing himself with proof? i can name you so many). people love to plagiarize. they usually pick unknown artists, so the chance that someone notices is smaller.

i feel bad for the guy, but this isn´t a thing between chinese and korean music. it´s a global problem (though it happens much more in asia for obvious reasons. i won´t name them now.). all he can do is let the law handle this. i wish him good luck!