[scribbz]

so im getting a car soon and its down to (note they will all be used):

-tiburon i rode a friends and i liked it a lot
-350z well. its a z. nuff said. but insurance too high for someone under 25?
-rx8 saw one in black in person and im not going to lie, it was pretty sexy. some friends who were girls said the same thing. plus heard its better then the z overall. or so i heard/read
-mazdaspeed3 5 door wagon, eh. but fast and great handles.
-or some complete random car that i have not thought of.

as you can tell im more into the import cars, though i once contemplated a 1979 trans am fire bird anniversary edition....lol

im looking for a fun car,
nice handles,
good looking inside and out, the higher the mpg the better,
but willing to sacrifice for performance,
going to mod anyway, but nothing TOO extreme. headers and a ok super charger or turbo charger is as far as ill go. if that.
preferably 4 seats but doesn't have to.
stiff suspension. like to feel the road.:]
decent stock performance.
good insurance
GOOD RELIABILITY
more on the refined side, but not too much. if not, its not a big deal.

which do you think i should get?
personal experiences with these cars?
should i get a different one not listed? if so which?

EDIT:
thnx for all the responses guys.

yeah true. i should go out and test drive them all. ill get around to that.

yeah i considered the civic SI. but i hate how short the front end of the car is. and im not a fan of the digital speedometer. which the rx-8 has.

but if it was the civic type r prototype that ive seen for america (not the wagon), id get that hands down. loll

price range is around 20 grand or less. less obviously being preferable.

anymore suggestions?

[Laxntiga]

There aren't too many gas efficient sports cars out there.... The Rx8 gets relatively 'bad' mpg. The Z isn't that far off. I hear the Tib's aren't that gas efficient either. Out of your list, I would chose the Mazda Speed 3. However, if you dont go the turbo route, check out the RSX-S.

The only car that I can think of that is relatively new that comes turbo'd is a WRX. Turbo Power or Free reving NA? Choose your pill.

[cksdayoff]

definitely stay away from the rx8

[knitoe]

I say Z but I am biased. I would stay away from the RX-8 just because of all the common complaints that are heard about it. I have not driven an MS3 but I hear they are fun little cars, if i were to get a FWD it would probably be between that and a Mini Cooper S. As far as the WRX is concerned, I would only be interested in an STI - all the normal WRXs that I have driven just didn't cut it for me...

We can give you all the opinions in the world, but it is up to you to go out and test drive the cars and find the one you fall in love with. You have already narrowed down your list to a couple of choices, find the one that feels right for you. Because at the end of the day it will be your car to drive, not ours.

Good luck on your search and happy driving.

[v8subie]

...I suggest going Civic Si?

It's got four doors.
MPG better than Z, 8 and Tiburon.
It's not uber fast, but it is nimble.
The market is pretty vast for the car.

like I said, it's only a suggestion.

[MC Muffin]

so im getting a car soon and its down to (note they will all be used):

-tiburon i rode a friends and i liked it a lot
-350z well. its a z. nuff said. but insurance too high for someone under 25?
-rx8 saw one in black in person and im not going to lie, it was pretty sexy. some friends who were girls said the same thing. plus heard its better then the z overall. or so i heard/read
-mazdaspeed3 5 door wagon, eh. but fast and great handles.
-or some complete random car that i have not thought of.

as you can tell im more into the import cars, though i once contemplated a 1979 trans am fire bird anniversary edition....lol

im looking for a fun car,
nice handles,
good looking inside and out, the higher the mpg the better,
but willing to sacrifice for performance,
going to mod anyway, but nothing TOO extreme. headers and a ok super charger or turbo charger is as far as ill go. if that.
preferably 4 seats but doesn't have to.
stiff suspension. like to feel the road.:]
decent stock performance.
good insurance
GOOD RELIABILITY
more on the refined side, but not too much. if not, its not a big deal.

which do you think i should get?
personal experiences with these cars?
should i get a different one not listed? if so which?

Give us a price range.

Out of those, I'd pick the Z though.

If you'd like 4 seats, how about an EVO or STi? G35 even?

Civic SI is a solid choice as well (reliable, 4 seats, fun to drive, great new design inside and out, fairly low insurance, good fuel economy), but it's not as quick as some of the other choices, and if you're trying to impress these girls you were mentioning earlier, this might not be the car to do it.

[scribbz]

thnx for all the responses guys.

yeah true. i should go out and test drive them all. ill get around to that.

yeah i considered the civic SI. but i hate how short the front end of the car is. and im not a fan of the digital speedometer. which the rx-8 has.

but if it was the civic type r prototype that ive seen for america (not the wagon), id get that hands down. loll

price range is around 20 grand or less. less obviously being preferable.

anymore suggestions?

[v8subie]

ms3...get the bang for your buck.

[BAMBAM]

MS3 is a good choice. Might want to consider the Caliber SRT4 if you find it harder to get the MS3 due to its limited production run and/or common dealer markups, although I hear that the Caliber SRT4 is not all that great compared to the last gen SRT4. How much money are you willing to spend? If it was around 20-25k I would pick up a used C5 Vette, STi, Evo... maybe 350z. Good luck man

[phantompc4]

Z is bad gas mileage along with bad handling but good straight lines. rx8 is bad gas mileage and good handling. but a real driver is good at the curves right?

tib and ms3 are both fwd cars so if your going to the extreme, they dont handle well. but they have higher gas mileage but less hp too.

but if your gonna get either the z or rx8 prepare for some insurance rapage and maintainence aint cheap either. theyre sports cars after all.

and how much do u actually know about forced induction? if u do something like a supercharger, expect the engine life to go down and gas mileage to be worse. itll also be harder to pass emissions and such. and since these are new cars a sc will probably cost well over 6k. (im speaking for the Z and rx8)

imo the Z is over-rated plus the engine sounds like a moan when u accelerate.

[scribbz]

Z is bad gas mileage along with bad handling but good straight lines. rx8 is bad gas mileage and good handling. but a real driver is good at the curves right?

tib and ms3 are both fwd cars so if your going to the extreme, they dont handle well. but they have higher gas mileage but less hp too.

but if your gonna get either the z or rx8 prepare for some insurance rapage and maintainence aint cheap either. theyre sports cars after all.

and how much do u actually know about forced induction? if u do something like a supercharger, expect the engine life to go down and gas mileage to be worse. itll also be harder to pass emissions and such. and since these are new cars a sc will probably cost well over 6k. (im speaking for the Z and rx8)

imo the Z is over-rated plus the engine sounds like a moan when u accelerate.

yeah i mean i kno an OK amount about forced induction.
but im no expert or anything. far form it. i just know things from reading and a lot of convos with friends who are rev heads and do mods themselves. no personal experience.

but yeah i kno what you mean. but its not like im goingto go out and get an Assassin (referring to the tib) lol
pretty crazy.

thnx for the response

[v8subie]

MS3 is a good choice. Might want to consider the Caliber SRT4 if you find it harder to get the MS3 due to its limited production run and/or common dealer markups, although I hear that the Caliber SRT4 is not all that great compared to the last gen SRT4. How much money are you willing to spend? If it was around 20-25k I would pick up a used C5 Vette, STi, Evo... maybe 350z. Good luck man

actually read an article between a caliber srt4, wrx, ms3 and dodge neon srt. but the ms3 came out on top, with the wrx in second, neon srt, finally caliber srt4.

[BAMBAM]

Z is bad gas mileage along with bad handling but good straight lines. rx8 is bad gas mileage and good handling. but a real driver is good at the curves right?

tib and ms3 are both fwd cars so if your going to the extreme, they dont handle well. but they have higher gas mileage but less hp too.

but if your gonna get either the z or rx8 prepare for some insurance rapage and maintainence aint cheap either. theyre sports cars after all.

and how much do u actually know about forced induction? if u do something like a supercharger, expect the engine life to go down and gas mileage to be worse. itll also be harder to pass emissions and such. and since these are new cars a sc will probably cost well over 6k. (im speaking for the Z and rx8)

imo the Z is over-rated plus the engine sounds like a moan when u accelerate.

MS3 has more power than the RX8. The Z and RX8 are both good cars, both may be actually overrated, but you can thank the fanboys for that.

[b18c1]

i think finding an ms3 used would b hard.... ive only seen like 2-3 in real life. they arent all that common

[BAMBAM]

To the OP, have you ever considered the WRX?

[boost]

Out of those choices... 350Z.

suprised you are even considering a tiburon. sure it is reliable and insurance is cheap... but i think the things you also wants cancels out the good (good handling, fun to drive, and mod potential)

[scribbz]

To the OP, have you ever considered the WRX?

the 08?
yeah. its good car and i know a good amount of ppl who like em, but its just of my cup of tea yeah kno?

i think finding an ms3 used would b hard.... ive only seen like 2-3 in real life. they arent all that common

dude i kno wat you mean. not a lot are selling either. as in they're hard to find.

but i saw one yesterday parked. and it looks a lot more, long i guess, and aggressive in person then in vids and pictures.

Out of those choices... 350Z.

suprised you are even considering a tiburon. sure it is reliable and insurance is cheap... but i think the things you also wants cancels out the good (good handling, fun to drive, and mod potential)

why not the tib?
obviously there is a lot to do with preference but the tib is not THAT bad. i think its under rated actually. everyone always hates on it when they have never been in one or driven one. dontget me wrong, im no fanboy, but its mod potential is pretty decent. its not civic, but its not bad.

[boost]

why not the tib?
obviously there is a lot to do with preference but the tib is not THAT bad. i think its under rated actually. everyone always hates on it when they have never been in one or driven one. dontget me wrong, im no fanboy, but its mod potential is pretty decent. its not civic, but its not bad.

how is it underrated?

The current (or most recent) tib its a fwd that weighs close to 3000 pounds. it has a 2.7 liter V6 engine making the same power as most 4 cylinders engines make bone stock. Aftermarket support is a fraction size compared to other makes. Everyone knows the engine is a POS. Clearly Hyundai designed the car with no performance in mind and only towards reliability. Mod potential is mediocre at best. Handling is decent. Not like anyone will be taking this car around a roadcoarse in front of other people. But i guess handling is good when taking that sharp 10mph turn into a walmart parking space. But the exterior looks ok/decent. (IMO of course)

[scribbz]

how is it underrated?

The current (or most recent) tib its a fwd that weighs close to 3000 pounds. it has a 2.7 liter V6 engine making the same power as most 4 cylinders engines make bone stock. Aftermarket support is a fraction size compared to other makes. Everyone knows the engine is a POS. Clearly Hyundai designed the car with no performance in mind and only towards reliability. Mod potential is mediocre at best. Handling is decent. Not like anyone will be taking this car around a roadcoarse in front of other people. But i guess handling is good when taking that sharp 10mph turn into a walmart parking space. But the exterior looks ok/decent. (IMO of course)

underrated as in its not as bad as ppl say it is. you kno, the opposite of overrated.
look im not saying its the best 2 door out there, im just saying its decent. and it had enough pros that i liked for me to put it on the list.
ok yeah for a v6 it should b making more, but read the reviews of ppl who have driven it, the car is an overall decent car. period.

one example:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xStHrSqVVKg


like i said, underrated.

btw, have you ever driven one? im not tryin to start an argument, im just curious.

...I suggest going Civic Si?

It's got four doors.
MPG better than Z, 8 and Tiburon.
It's not uber fast, but it is nimble.
The market is pretty vast for the car.

like I said, it's only a suggestion.

o and yeah even though i said i didn't really like the new si's, i do like the older civics. like the 05 and under.
and good model/year suggestions?

[BAMBAM]

underrated as in its not as bad as ppl say it is. you kno, the opposite of overrated.
look im not saying its the best 2 door out there, im just saying its decent. and it had enough pros that i liked for me to put it on the list.
ok yeah for a v6 it should b making more, but read the reviews of ppl who have driven it, the car is an overall decent car. period.

one example:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xStHrSqVVKg


like i said, underrated.

The Tiburon is mediocore at best overall. It does not shine in any department, and both of its engines are way outdated... as in at least 7 years behind while its competition has been outpacing and bitchslapping it over time. The 2.7V6 gets minivan gas mileage, unbeliveable... while pumping out a spine breaking 172hp and 181lb.-ft of torque. Honestly, the only thing the Tiburon has going for it is reliability and warranty, I don't think it even shines in the bargain/price factor anymore considering a brand new Tiburon SE 6 speed costs $22,225. Hardly a bargain when for only 2-3k more, you're in MS3, Caliber SRT4 territory... hell, even a brand new Mustang GT is within reach. Needless to say... I am in love with the Tiburon's exterior design, it's a terrible shame such an agressive/stylish design was wasted on an underachieving platform screaming mediocrity in all aspects. With this all being said... Hyundai itself is improving drastically, the Tiburon just happens to one of the few models in their line-up, if not, only, in need of a desperate update/upgrade, and Hyundai knows this too.

And yes, I have driven an 06 Tiburon SE, and ridden in quite a few of them.